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that to us. i'm frederica whitfield. "cnn newsroom" continues with ryan nobles right now. >> hi, even. i'm ryan nobles. jim acosta has the day off. tragedy at a music festival. eight died, many more injured after a crowd rushed the stage at an astroworld festival last night. this video shows rapper travis scott pause his set on stage as he saw an ambulance approaching. the surge sparked chaos in the crowd of 50,000 people and completely overwhelmed medical personnel. people in the crowd attempted cpr on the injured, according to
the witnesses. and loved ones of those who were at the festival still may not have answers. this as houston officials have set up a hotline to report missing people. cnn's rosa flores is in houston. rosa, what else have you been hearing from the witnesses? >> reporter: you know, from the individuals i've talked to, they describe the chaos. they describe how the people short never the crowd had more trouble breathe, the people taller in the crowd were able to gasp air. they describe it as a mob and how for some of them it was their survival instincts that kicked in. they wanted air and they wanted water. i talked to two individuals who say during travgs scott's performance at multiple interviews, he stopped to say and point to crowd of people that needed medical attention. they themselves couldn't breathe.
take a listen. >> it was going on for over two hours. it just got worse and worse. you couldn't breathe. >> it was so hard to move your arms and so hard to breathe. i was pushing whoever in front of me just to breathe. just to breathe. >> reporter: now authorities say that at about 9:15 is when that large group, that crowd started compressing toward the stage. by 9:30, this became a mass casualty event. one of the officers on the scene described multiple people on the ground needing medical care. of course, there was medical care there. police were there. police say both medics and police were overwhelmed because of what was going on around them. by the end of the night, about 300 people were treated at a field hospital. 23 were transported to hospitals. now we've learned from texas children's hospital, that that
includes more than one child. eight individuals have died, according to authorities. they warn that number could increase because multiples were transported to the hospital in serious condition. they're monitoring that. we're expecting a press conference to start here at any moment, so we're hoping to get more details. but, ryan, all of this is still under investigation. police today were sifting through video, trying to find clues of exactly what happened here. ryan? >> rosa flores live in houston. thank you for that report. let's talk more about this. joining us is madelyn is skins who's a nurse who attended last night's concert. madelyn, you were in that crowd of about 50,000 people and younded up passing out because people were pushing up against you that you couldn't breathe. first give us an idea how you're feeling right now and describe that experience before you passed out.
>> i was very anxious. i could feel myself losing the ability to breathe. it was really hard with the amount of people around me. i remember feeling -- right before i passed out, i tried to turn my head -- i couldn't turn my head, but i tried to tell him to -- i really was going to have him tell my son i loved him because i didn't think i was going to make it out of there. i'm not trying to be dramatic. i thought i was going to straight up die. >> i don't think that's dramatic. people did die. you are an icu nurse and deal with tragedy and emergency situations on a regular basis. when you regained consciousness, what did you do next, and what was happening around you? >> i woep up, and i remember i woke up in an unfamiliar area. i think i was in the vi pi section with a water bottle in
my lap. they were dropping people off to get more people out of the crowd. i noticed one younger guy looked real bad, eyed rolled back in the back of his head. i said, have you checked a pulse. he said, no, i don't know how, can you help me. i said, yeah, i'm an icu nurse. i didn't feel a pulse. i said don't take him out, get him to a tent. another heard i was an icu nurse, and they said, hey, can you help us. >> with the volume of people there and your expertise, as someone who works in the medical field, do you feel there were enough medical resources available? >> not even a little bit. when i followed the security guard after he heard me say i was a nurse, i followed him, and the situation i saw was absolutely traumatic.
i deal wal with cpr on a daily basis. i saw three or four medical people doing cpr on people and my mind was blown. i said, when was the last pulse check. i tried to immediately jump in and help. with the situation going on and people getting pulled over that were unrespon suss, unconscious, we had one aed, which are the pads that go on the chest and shock a heart back into normal rhythm. there was only one. one mask that you put over your face and breathes for you. there was only one of those. there was one stretcher. when i walked up, there were three people, probably four or five in cardiac arrest in front of me. >> i think there's a lot of us that obviously weren't there that night wondering how something like this had even
happened. you had been to events like this before. do you have any idea what led to this chaos, why did the crowd begin to surge? what started all of this in. >> people just rushing the stage to see travis. i've been to the last two actual festivals, i've been to rap concerts. it happens. people rush the stage. no big deal. it's uncomfortable, some get hurt, but this was way overcrowded. i've never seen anything like it. i felt like i was going to die. it was absurd. and there was so little resources. i mean, the medics that were trying to help didn't look like a lot of them had been properly trained. that's not to take away from what they were doing. they were still trying their best. they weren't given the proper resources. some weren't given the proper training. they had no idea what they were getting into, i'm sure. >> so it because combination of something that would normally
happen at a concert, people trying to get close to a stage, excited to see one of their artists, and people were panicking because they weren't familiar with a situation like that? >> i think it was really mostly overcrowded. i know that there's some rumor going around from tmz there was someone going around injecting people with drugs. i really don't know how big of a part drugs played into this. i was completely sober and could very well have died. if my boyfriend hadn't gotten me out of the crowd and they didn't crowd surf my unconscious body, i could have died. >> madelyn is skins, we appreciate you so much, this combination of your experience and medical expertise were so valuable in telling this story. we're so happy you're safe, and thank you so much again for joining us today. >> of course. still to come, a major
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♪ i had a dream that someday ♪ ♪ i would just fly, fly away ♪ one down, two to go. president biden finally got his infrastructure bill passed. he's been pushing for this since early in his presidency. but the other one, the social spending bill, still needs to get done. cnn correspondent arlette saenz joins us now. this is a big deal. it might get lost in the back-and-forth over the last couple of months, but tell us what the president is saying about this victory. >> reporter: well, ryan,
president biden took a victory lap on this infrastructure plan. this involved tense know gesh yags for -- negotiations between democrats and republicans, even among democrats themselves. here's what president biden had to say. >> i think the one message that came across was get something done, get something done. time to stop talking. get something done. and so i think, again, that's what the american people are looking for. when you ask ho ryu we able to bring things together, well, you know, look, all kidding aside, i believe everybody in the process is entitled to be treated with respect. you can't have all you want. it's a process.
there's no one piece of legislation that's going to solve everybody's problems. >> reporter: now, once the president signs the bill into law, it will help create jobs. there's about $550 billion in investments over five years dedicated to roads, rails, bridges, those traditional forms of infrastructure. there's also another $65 billion devoted to expanding access to broadband. tens of billions of dollars going toward the electric grid and clean water systems, and also investments for electric charging stations across the country for people's vehicles. but while the white house is taking this victory lap right now, there certainly is more work ahead as they're trying to get that $1.9 trillion social safety net passed in the coming weeks. ryan? >> arlette, you can tell the president is breathing somewhat of a sigh of relief today that
he's phenomenal gotten something accomplished. thanks so much for that report. let's talk more about this. fo cnn analyst, david gergen and chief white house correspondent ap april. he described yesterday what he said was a cluster beep. i'm not going to say the word. there are times -- i'm a congressional correspondent, so i'm up there every day. it looked like a circular firing squad on capitol hill over the past few weeks with the democrats. i've had a lot of democrats tell me quietly, once we get it passed, the sausage making part of congress, they're going to forget about it. april, does it matter that this was a messy process to get to this point? >> reporter: at the end of the day, it's a messy results, but
people want results. people are looking for a win. they had not seen it. this is a win. what has to happen after this win is it has to be tangible. after this win, it has to go into the pockets. the broadband has to go into the buildings. there has to be those housing issues. the president is looking at it public houses. hb u.s. people want to see something tangible. they don't want to see this pie in the sky. they want to feel it. the sausage making was ugly, but let's see how this trickles down is to the average person when it comes to the elections. >> the passage is one thing. implementation is another. how big of a victory is this for biden, and how important is it for americans to feel the impact of this? we had a very promising jobs report this month. does there need to be some sort of tangible benefit to this before the midterm elections?
>> yes, absolutely. but let's be serious about this. this is the single most important process for the president. he stayed in there. i think the messiness will stick with him. i think he's got to do other things to get his mojo back. april is right. one of the first things is to show it's actually going to make a difference in the lives of blue collar workers. the united states has always had great infrastructure, some of the best in the world. [ indiscernible ] getting his mojo back, it's got to be more than that, an improvement in the economy. he talks job improvement. that's not enough. you have to get the jobs passed, the pandemic under control, and
get things passed. right now he still has huge work to do to get out of the hole that's been dug in the last few months. >> april, we did get new sounding from former governor chris christie. he had a pretty tough message to a republican audience in las vegas. take a listen to this. >> we can no longer talk about the past and the past elections. no matter where you stand on that issue, it's over. every minute we spend talking about 2020, while we're wasting time doing that, joe biden, kamala harris, nancy pelosi, and chuck schumer are laying ruin to the country. we'd better take our eyes off that and start looking through the windshield again. >> there seems to be one
prominent republican who wants to talk about it, and that's the former president donald trump. do you think the rest of the republican party agree with chris christie? >> they're in agreement with chris christie but they're also in agreement with donald trump. they want to hold onto the magic of whatever it is that donald trump did, the magic that also produced january 6th to a certain extent. at the end of the day, they were looking at, look what happened to virginia, how they were able to edge out and have a win. they're trying to play on yesterday as well as the promises of tomorrow and keep the misinformation, the unchecked facts going to create wins an bring back the white house to their party by any means necessary. >> david, republicans often feeling good about their wins in virginia. they made gains, even though they fell short. there's this capitalizing on the fear of the critical race theory
being taught in schools. it's something fox news repeats all the time, all day long. but listen to this admission from tucker carlson, one of their hosts. >> i never knew what critical race theory was. some are inherently wrong. it's immoral. >> he laughs about it but then goes on to give some sort of definition of it that is really opaque. he doesn't seem to know what it is. a lot of people who seem to peddle it don't see seem to know what it is. does that to a certain extent confuse voters and are some taking advantage of that to create confusion and get people to the polls? >> listen. i think when you spend a whole year talking about an issue and then you say you don't really know what it's about, it hurts the credibility of the speaker, tucker carlson. it doesn't surprise me.
he knows how to play the game too well. i think this is a misstep on his part, but i do believe this. these kind of issues, these down-home issues that people live with within their families after coming through the pandemic and all the problems that have come up through the schools about school attendance and what to do about masks, that the republicans understood that better than the democrats did. the democrats used to be the blue collar middle-class working party. years ago it was republicans who looked like they were breaking through. [ indiscernible ] >> you see it. there are a lot of people who feel like, look, we've got enough interference with the lives of our children already. let's not get into demeaning america. most think these are folks
demeaning america and demeaning america fast. we do need to reach a point where we can be honest and frank with each other about the awfulness of some aspects of our past while also understanding we were a brave country starting out in many ways, and we were a much more united country. we have to get back to that. we're all people in the end. >> we're going to have to leave it there. david gergen, april ryan, always an important conversation. thank you so much. coming up, green bay parkers' quarterback aaron rodgers playing the victim after misleading the public about his vaccination process. >> i didn't lie during the press conference. during that time it was a witch hunt that was going on across the league where everybody in the media was so concerned about who was vaccinated and who wasn't.
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more than a year after the 2020 election and donald trump is still proudly talking about his efforts to upend georgia's election results, and all the while investigators are looking into whether he committed a crime are quietly taking notes. cnn's sara murray reports. >> reporter: as donald trump fired off a september letter demanding georgia's secretary of state ben raffensperger to decertify the election, willis took notice. she told staffers she wanted that letter, the original copy,
original and all for her investigation, according to a person familiar. while trump continues to bellow about 2020 and insert himself, his public rants are providing new fodder for investigators as to whether his election efforts were credible or critical. trump took the stage before an according crowd. >> remember when we wanted to call a special election? i think the governor's the only one who can call it, right? >> reporter: he offered more insight on his interactions with a potential relative around the election, georgia governor brian kemp. >> people would say, sir, we spoke with governor kemp. he won't do anything about election integrity. i said, let me handle this. this is easy. >> i said, brian, listen, you know, you have a big election integrity problem in georgia. i hope you can help us out and
call a special election. >> reporter: kemp in the call with trump last september refused. newly released public evidence like recently released testimony are helping to find a roadmap for willis's sprawling investigation. raffensperger making clear in his book he felt trump was threatening him where trump baselessly accused raffensperger of covering up ballots. >> that's a criminal offense. you can't let that happen. that's a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyer. that's a big risk. >> reporter: now president trump is using what he believes is the power. >> i could hear he thought he would have some kind of pressure to bear with outside forces to make our lives miserable. >> what is it to them if they try to ruin raffensperger? >> they didn't care about that
one person. raffensperger was in his way. i'll be there to give her my vision of my opinion or my comments of what i saw. >> reporter: the 2020 midterms called offer new headaches for witnesses and investigators alike. >> i think the job is to not be political, but you can't divorce yourself from it. we all know what the calendar is. . >> reporter: jodie heise believes trump won. >> nobody understands the disaster of the lack of integrity like the people of georgia. all right. let's talk more about this with the man himself t georgia election official who defied pressure by trump to overturn
the 2020 election laws. brad raffensperger. i appreciate you being here. you're also the author of a new book called "integrity counts." your new book is evidence in the probe of mr. trump and his role to try to overturn the 2020 election. when you heard the former president proudly recount his interactions with you, and, of course, you were there, you took the phone call from him, did you think to yourself that he might be trying to build is some sort of a case or he was trying to lay the groundwork for there to be some level of building a case against himself? did it seem like it was coming out that way? >> well, good afternoon. when i had the conversation with the president, we already had several lawsuits from the trump campaign and their allies, and so i knew whatever we said could possibly be part of the deposition and court proceeding. so i wanted to be very factual.
and i let him know he did not have the right facts. and so he did, you know, make all of his allegations in that call. he said there was 5,000 dead people. his people actually said 10,000 officially. but there was only at that time two. two. so we found less than five people who had died, but someone voted in their place. there weren't thousands of felons that voted. there was less than 74. and there weren't 66,000 underaged voters. there was zero. all of his facts were wrong. we stood on facts, followed the law, and we followed the constitution. we knew we had the facts and the right information and his team didn't. >> just to update, you still haven't been called before the grand jury yet, right? >> no, i have not. >> okay. so you went through a lot. you and your family went through a lot during that period of time. i do want to go through the background of what you were forced to deal with. your wife trisha got a text that said the following, quote, hi,
patricia. this is getting really ugly. do brad a favor and tell him to step down immediately. others she received. your husband deserves to face a firing squad. and then, you'd better not botch this recount. your life depends on it. intruders also broke into the home of your daughter-in-law. are you still getting threats to this day? >> nothing like we had back a year ago. but also to that point about doing a recount. we did a 100% hand recount. what that did was verify that the machines did not flip the votes as alleged by many people. and the count we had for the machines was the same as the hand recount and president trump came up short. my republican friends and what they need to understand and why i put it in the book, 28,000 in georgia skipped the presidential ballot. they didn't vote for anyone. and senator david perdue got 20,000 more than president
trump. and then the congressional areas, president trump got 33,000 less votes than the republican congressman. those three data points really say it all. but we've answered every single alleg allegation. i've included in my book the ten-beige letter to congress were not factually correct. they were not supported by data. >> you took a leave at the time. a lot in your own party would have said, i've had enough and go off. you're running for re-election. you per putting yourself back up on the ballot and you're being challenged by republican congressman jodie heise, who, of course, has the endorsement of the president. he says, quote, it's my deep conviction that brad raffensperger has massively compromised the rights of the people at the ballot box. he's opened wide the door for
all sorts of irregularities and fraud to march into our election system, and it is time we take charge of this. obviously, sir, you always respond to everything with data and facts. what's your response to this? >> well, what he says is just hyperbole and rhetoric. if you really look at it during a post election down in ware county, there was about a 37-count vote difference was about a 0.26% difference. he said it was 26%. he can't do math. he said his election was fair and balanced, but president trump's wasn't. that's a double-minded person. as a pastor, he should know better. >> he's not the only republican who happily accepted the results of their winning election but somehow claimed it hurt president donald trump mr.
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green bay packers' quarterback aaron rodgers is now owning up to the fact he's not vaccinated for covid despite telling reporters in august he had been, quote, immunized. rodgers tested positive for coronavirus earlier this week and now he's blaming what he calls the woke mob and cancel culture for the backlash he's getting. >> i realize i'm in the cross hairs of the woke mob right now, so before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket, i think i'd like to set the record straight on some of the blatant lies that are out there about myself right now. i'm not, you know, some sort of anti-vax flagterror. i'm somebody who's a critical thinker. you guys know me. i march to the beat of my own drum. >> rodgers said he had a lot of study or he conducted a lot of study that went into his decision to not get vaccinated.
he said it was a lot like the study he put into hosting "jeopardy!." he also said he had concerns about convenience ander is rillty and he couldn't get the pfizer or moderna vaccines because of the al erlergens and ingredients in it. he quoted dr. martin luther king jr. >> as an aside, the great mlk said you have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules and rules that make no sense. >> well, joining me to talk about this, retired nfl player and global neurosurgery fellow, thank you for joining us. this has shocked a lot of people. he's a huge role model. first, what's your reaction to his comments both as a former nfl player and as someone in the
medical field? >> well, thank you for having me. you know, initially i thought that his comments that he made in the beginning of the season when asked about his vaccination status was intentionally duplicitous. he said, yeah, i'm immunized when asked if he was vaccinated. that was deceitful and mislead a lot of people to believe he was vaccinated. so they've come to a compromise they want these players on the field and they'll provide two pathways. vaccinated players have a protocol. unvaccinated players have a protocol. he felt that some of these protocols didn't fit with him, and so he skirted around them and is now missing a game because of it. so what i see in that as a medical professional now and as a former nfl player as well. i see someone making a decision in a silo, self-serving and thinking about himself as opposed to the larger bigger
scheme of the team t community, and as you mentioned, being a leader and role model for members of the community. i hope he takes this as a learning lesson and a teaching lesson and i rectify it. i do believe he's a very intelligent person but i think he needs better facts to make a better decision going forward. >> it sounds like what you're saying is he's not being a good teammate because he's not sacrificing for the team. to do it in an underhanded way to skirt the protocols, that's not being a very good teammate, is it? >> that's correct. i've been saying from the very beginning, public health, the goal is to be a team. everyone's a teammate, right? we're a global team in this fight against the pandemic. people in the health profession, nurses, security guards, material management, physicians, scientists, we're all doing our work on the health side of this, and then the public adhering to the behavioral lifestyle and
modifications of public health experts they're trying to have us do, they're needing us to do our part as well. yes, not being a great teammate for the green bay packers and the larger community and someone with the social cachet that he has, i believe it's a responsibility for him to be informed, to not allow political conjecture and agendas lead the way and have a clear my openic focus on the objective data that the experts have provided for all of snus he also had the best doctors in the world, yet he's taking advice from someone with no medical background at all. take a listen to this. >> i consulted with a now good friend of mine joe rogan after he got covid, and i've been doing the a lot of the stuff he recommended in his podcasts and on the phone to me. i'm thankful for people like joe stepping up and using their voice. i'm thankful for my medical
squad and all the love and support i've gotten, but i've been taking monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, c, d, h, and q, and i feel pretty incredible. >> so what do you say to that? >> you know, i say to him, look, if you came into our hospital at mass general and you were approaching the near surgical team and said, look, i have a tumor, and i want you to take it out, i'd hope you'd rely and respect our research and years of experience to go into that particular surgery to keep you safe and help treat that near surgical disease that you have. you'd rely on our expertise do that. i hope he relies on the expertise of women and men scientists and their livelihoods, their efforts toward the mechanisms of how vaccines are administered and disseminated. we would respect you to be an
outstanding quarterback to fire a ball down the field to get it to devonta adams for a touchdown. same way you need to resuspect others. provide the best information to him. he makes great decisions daily as a quarterback, and here's another example for him to step forward and be a leader on and off the field. >> one more thing i want you to reand to. a person who was famous on twitter made this point. pro athletes take all kinds of shotting in order to play nightly, toradol, novemocain. this is stupid. take a shot. be a good teammate. painkillers are sometimes used and abused and sometimes they take the recommendations of their training staff just to get back on the field, yet he won't take a vaccine that's been
tested and approved by the fda that will save his life. isn't that a contradiction in his approach to this. >> you're absolutely right. let me take it a step further in my own lane. play a sport that is high-velocity impact collisions on a daily basis, right? you're getting hit, you're getting blind-sided. we know some of these repetitive hits lead to memory love, amnesia, and personality differences. there's difficulty managing and thinking through, taking a vaccine that's been shown millions upon millions upon millions of times, data entries that show it works for his demographics as well. it's somewhat contradictory. but someone who's a voice of reason and provides without the background noise, the motionless
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