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all right. hello again everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin this hour with panic and chaos at a music festival in houston, texas. at least eight people died and many more injured when a crowd rushed the stage as the astroworld festival. one victim taken to an area hospital just 10 years old. as many as 50,000 people were attending the festival when a crowd surged the stage as rapper travis scott was performing. earlier in the day a stampede of people rushed through the v.i. prnlgts entrance. you see it there. several metal detectors and people were knocked to the ground. at least one person injured during that moment. cnn's rosa flores is in houston for us. rosa, dozens of people injured last night. now hearing for the first time from the artist travis scott. what is he saying? >> reporter: let's get stright a statement. a statement from travis scott issued moments ago. he is saying, i'm absolutely
devastated by what took place last night. my prayers go out to the families and all of those impacted by what happened at astroworld festival. houston p.d. has my total support continuing to look into the tragic loss of life. what we know from authorities. yesterday from this concert about 50,000 in the crowd. i can tell you talking to some crowdgoers they say at some point very difficult to breathe, some of the people were taller in the crowd able to breathe a little better than the individuals who were shorter there, and that at some point this crowd was just swaying with water bottles being thrown up in the air. according to several of the crowdgoers, that i talked to. now, according to the police, at about 9:15 p.m. yesterday, that crowd started compressing towards the stage. that's when panic ensued. by 9:38, they do believe, authorities believe, that this
turned into a mass casualty event. one of the officers described multiple people on the ground, in cardiac arrest. multiple people on the ground with other medical issues, and medical personnel trying to provide aid right then and there but authorities say that medics and police were overwhelmed. now, here's what one concertgoer described. take a listen. >> all of a sudden people just -- come pressed up against each other and were pushing forward and backward, and as the timer got closer to coming down to zero, it just -- it got worse and worse, and i looked at my boyfriend, sam, and i told him we have to get out of here, because i just felt, i was having constant pressure on my chest. constant pressure on my back. unlike any -- i've always been towards the front in concerts and yes, it gets tight but never feeling like i'm going to pass
out. never saw people collapsing and definitely never saw anybody die. >> a lot of very tense moments there. authorities say by end of the night about 300 people were treated on dsite. 23 transported to the hospital including a 10-year-old and 8 people died. i.d.s of those individuals have not been released and we're expecting a press conference in the next few hours. police investigating, trying to figure out what happened. reviewing video trying to figure out what led to the deaths of these eight individuals. >> it is really hard to believe. hard to comprehend how this could happen. rosa flores, thank you so much. all right. talk about things that happen when you have large crowds. no one expects this. deaths to happen. joined now by paul worthhymer, a crowd safety expert. also founder and president of crowd management strategies. so your initial impressions about how something like this has happened? you've been studying crowd, you know, crowds of this magnitude for decades.
>> well, this is a result of failed planning in crowd management. the victims are the, the crowd itself. people in the crowd. you have to look to the risk assessment plans, to the crowd management plan and emergency plan. these were all signed off, i'm sure, by the city of houston. and this is where the failure is. don't blame the victims. this isn't a case of panic when you're trying to save your life, or the lives of those people around you in a crowd crush, that's not panic. that's self-preservation. and people william in an environment in which they had no control over. the people who had the control, again, the safety officials, the promoter, the artist who is not unfamiliar with chaos and crowd
disorders at his concerts and festivalsance and, of course, the venue and the security people. it was a preventible tragedy. >> yeah. and because reportedly there have been other security-related matters as pertains to this event or even other events involving the artist you're saying, those things should be taken into consideration when, whether it's the city or the event planners, are preparing for security measures at an event like this? >> this is -- this kind of crowd situation, tragedy, is as old as rock 'n' roll. you know, most people think when they think of this kind of tragedy, they think of the 1979 whos sconcert where i got my start, actually in crowd safety. go back to the moonbaug coronation ball in 1952 in plv p cleveland, the same crowd surge, crowd stage in front of the stage overcrowding. this is such an old problem.
you don't have to wonder. the police does not have to wonder what happened. it's easy to understand what happened. overcrowded, failure to manage the crowd, and expectation that crowd surges are possible. you know, houston, the city of houston, follows the national fire protection association life safety code 101. there's a special section there on this very kind of situation in how to protect against it. one of the reason -- one of the ways, reduce the crowd size. i didn't see the last cnn news at the hour, but i think the pandemic is still going on. and yet you had people there, three square feet apart, shoulder to shoulder, front to back compression. how was that allowed to happen? >> cnn spoke with a houston fire
chief earlier today. this is what he says. >> the crowd for whatever reason began to push and surge towards the front of the stage, or towards the stage. which caused people in the front to be compressed, and they were unable to escape that situation. that -- that incident caused a lot of additional panic in the crowd, and people began to fall out and be compressed, and quickly overwhelmed the security that was hired for that venue. >> so, paul, when we look at kind of that aerial view, you know, of the crowd there, and you see that there are sections to the crowd, what perhaps in your view may have been missing that would vb prevented this kind of surge or push towards the front making it particularly dangerous for those who, you
know, consequently end up being crushed, compressed all wait at the front? because look at the rows or separation in the picture, but something then collapsed at that point allowing people to compress? >> well, i mean, this takes time to get to that point, but it's anticipated that this kind of situation could occur. it's not a mystery. what you do is reduce the density of how many people can be in different sections in front of the stage. you reduce the density of the crowd. that takes care of a major part of the crushing crowd surge and crowd collapse. when the fire chief of houston says there was panic in the crowd under these conditions, it telling me one thing. he's never been in a crowd crush. it was not panic. panic is a term often used to blame the victim. as if the victim turned to left and just walked out of the crowd and nothing would have happened
but the victim turned to the right. the victim was caught in a situation that planners and the city signed off on. that they allowed to develop over time. that is classic in rock 'n' roll. the worse injuries and the most deaths occur in the very environment you're looking at. fest vabival seating standing r. it's historic. everybody knows it. 101 safety code talks directly to it. i'm sorry if i don't have sympathy for the safety people here, or the people who signed off on this event and the people who planned the event. >> i think we hear you loud and clear, that you're saying this is preventible, and it's the city and event planners who are culpable. >> that's right. this was a preventible tragedy, and it's going to keep occurring until people stand up and stop this from happening. >> hmm. paul --
>> by regulation or by criminal act. if you start holding these people responsible for these events, criminally responsible, for gross negligence, or whatever else, you'll see this kind of thing stop overnight. until then, there's too much money to be made. >> but no price on the lives right now of we know to be eight people who died. paul worthhymer, thank you so much. your information, invaluable. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. all right. now to capitol hill where president biden is celebrating a major legislative win, and a monumental moment for his presidency. after months of democratic party in-fighting and hours of tense negotiations the house finally passes 1.2 trillion dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill lied friday night. this morning the president touting the benefits of this historic bill, which is the single largest investment in
public works in the nation's history. >> once in a generation investment that's going to create millions of jobs, modernizing the infrastructure, our roads, our bridges, or broadband and a role whang of things turning the climb change crisis into an opportunity. what we faced with china and other large countriesened a the rest of the world. >> for more bring in arlette saenz at the white house. a big, big victory for this president but still has another key piece of economic agenda that he wants to pass. what happens next? where is the focus? >> reporter: fred, president biden says he will sign that $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill very soon. hoping to bring law make irks of both parties who worked on that measure here to the white house for that official signing ceremony, but then the attention quickly turns to that larger social safety net package which
currently is totals around $1.9 trillion. now, the president has expressed confidence that it will be getting passed. i have to apologize for the noise behind me. doing nantmaintenance at the wh house. the president insisted he thinks that bill will be passed. there has been some concern about whether moderates will eventually go along with that plan. progressives and moderates came to agreement last night to set a vote for that plan, the week of november 15th. but there is some questioning whether moderates will actually follow through. take a listen to what the president said about assurances he's gotten and why he's confident it will pass. >> you know i'm not going to answer that question for you. because i'm not going to get into who, what made, who made what commitments to me. i don't negotiate in public but i feel confident, i feel confident, that we will have enough votes to pass the build back better plan. >> what gives you that
confidence? >> me. >> reporter: we will see how that larger spending package eventually pans out over the course of the next two week. for now the white house is celebrating that bipartisan strain structure win and the president hitting the road soon to tellout this to the american people. >> clearly, live shot commitments. we heard you loud and clear nonetheless. thank you so much. good job. still ahead, a knew tool in the fight against the pandemic. we'll bring you details on that new pill that pfizer says is highly effective reducing covid hospitalizations and deaths. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need
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combating climate change. a key issue for more next guest. miami mayor francis waur franci. congratulations winning a second term. >> thank you, fredricka. honor and pleasure to be wib you. >> what's your reaction to congress finally passing this historic deal? >> it's been incredibly important. something bipartisan -- both this administration and the prior administration. so we're happy that this bipartisan bill has finally passed. it's very needed in our cities for both the energy components, climate component and infrastructure components as well agency the hard structure component the bill has. >> this bill contains $150 billion in particular for energy and combating climate change. your city at particular risk because of hurricanes and other severe weather conditions. how might this help you and your
city save lives and property? >> well, just a couple days ago coming up to glasgow, we had a severe, what we call a rainbomb. rain storm nap flooded major parts of our city. and our city did something unusual. taxed ourselves to the tune of $200 million for upgrades and glad the federal government hopefully will step up or match or exceed our contribution. we know cities across america can't do it alone. they need state and federal governments to get involved and we're glad this is happening. >> while at this climate summit there in glasgow, are you getting a feeling from other countries, and leadership, that there is a feeling that the u.s. is doing its part? particularly making up for lost time. i know you gave credit to the former administration, but the former president did have a
climate denying kind of posture. so what are you hearing in terms of whether the u.s. is doing its part right now, or if it's an issue of catch-up? or if there is kind of a renewed hope in the u.s. position on the global stage of climate change? >> well, there's no doubt there's a reneweds focus. that the -- out of the climate accord dropped the ball. cities across the country stepped up. cities have 85% of population in america. 91% -- cities -- decided they would stay in the paris accord when the prior administration got out. i think that sort of kept the dam from breaking and now we're starting to see momentum again being reclaimed, and, you know, like our city, earth day proclaimed a carbon neutrality, adopt a carbon neutrality plan. the cities across the world are
going to decarbonize or world to the tune of 1.6 megatons or gigatons of carbon. a massive commitment of cities across the world. >> on that issue you pledged to have miami carbon neutral by 2050 according to the "miami herald." final plan on that. i mean, how has it been delayed, or has it been delayed in your view, ow do you feel like it's meeting its goals? >> like everything else, you wish you could have done it earlier and certainly people that are young, you know, men and women in our community are pushing us to do this faster. obviously, we got into later than some other cities but i think we have a very robe ust gl to guest a large part of our carbon plan done by 2035. with technology and with renewed emphasis, it could be a lot earlier. we're hoping it will be. we should push for that.
>> "the miami herald" editorial board came out with a tough message directed at you in part saying you should tackle sea-level rise in climate change with more immediacy, with the same zeal you bring to engaging with elon musk on twitter. how do you respond to that? >> i mean, editorial boards do what they do. i was -- 80% last tuesday and i know my residents are very happy with the work we're doing on climate, you know, i brought the city into c40, updated our city sea level rise, updated and issued this year our climate neutrality plan and have $200 million we're going to implement in terms of resiliency. no other city in america -- in the world or -- i think the editorial board should take note of that. >> miami mayor, francis suarez, thank you so much. enjoy your time there in glasgow and safe travels back.
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>> you test positive. then take this pill, and it's supposed to, i guess, keep you from experiencing the most severe of symptoms? >> that's right. so both drugs have been shown that if you receive the drug very early after you develop symptoms. so in the case of the pfizer drug, within three days of symptom onset. with the merck drug, within five days of symptom onset, you can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death. i want to be very clear. these drugs will not be game-changers unless we have a system that allows for that kind of rapid treatment to sbuk a local drug store, get a positive covid test. they make sure it's safe to give you those drugs and if so you get the drugs on the spot. not have to have a co-pay and should be free if you don't have insurance. the only ways these drugs will be a game-changer. >> interesting. as you're talking i'm hearing people, some people who might
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that the first person shot by the 18-year-old rittenhouse during the unrest in wisconsin last summer was, quoting now, acting very belligerently. >> reporter: lawyers for kyle rittenhouse adamant their client was forced to fire his weapon as threats and a foot chase but prosecutors countered with a former marine jason majkowski also there. >> i want to come help any way i could. >> reporter: his movements that night similar to the defendant's. both had medical equipment. both were armed weren't ar-15 style prosecutors claim he had a much different reaction than rittenhouse to the apparent aggression of joseph rosenbaum. the first man rittenhouse shot and killed. >> he had been acting
belligerently. he had asked very bluntly to shoot him. >> reporter: at one point he demonstrated the way ro rosenba was lunging at him. >> what did you think of him? >> i battling idiot. baske babbling idiot. >> did you consider him a threat? >> no. >> did you feel he posed danger to you or yourself? >> no. >> reporter: a much different encounter than rittenhouse would have minutes later claiming rittenhouse was much more a target than lakowske. >> fair to say no one verbally threatened to kill them. >> not that i recall. >> no one actually chased? >> not that i recall, no. >> is it fair to say the reason that you didn't be use your firearm that night is nobody had attacked you that night. right? >> there was no need for it. >> reporter: the defense also showing this photo of gaige
grosskreutz holding a gun. the man rittenhouse would later shoot and injure. lakowske removed bullets from a pistol he found on the ground surely after grosskreutz was taken away for treatment. >> does there have to be bullet in the chamber to fire gun. >> yes. >> was there a bullet in that gun. >> yes. >> in your training was that gun ready to are fired? >> yes. >> i fell to my knees and cried. >> reporter: the prosecution relied on carrey an swartz to bring emotion into the krool. fiancee of joseph rosenbaum portrayed as an agitator much of the trial instead humanized him speaking of her vis it to the location. >> i put my hand's in it, my hand wet with his blood. that's when i collapsed on the ground. >> reporter: prosecution could
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>> if trucking companies stop, america stops. everything that we consume, the vast majority of things, whether it be cars, clothes, food, even food products, a lot of stuff comes from overseas. >> reporter: while president joe biden directed the ports of los angeles and long beach to move to 24/7 operations, he believes it will not be enough. >> it doesn't matter how long they're open because there's other issues that are preventing us from picking up. driver shortages and equipment shortages. >> reporter: creating a snowball effect. >> if you're going to do holiday shopping, do it now. because things are going to run out. it's going to be scares. >> reporter: meanwhile, stewart hopes to be behind the wheel by the end of the year. but he and others expect the shortage to remain for years to come. with the real possibility of disappointment this holiday season. >> hopefully i can be on the road and actually making the
money. >> reporter: in los angeles. >> the shortage has led to some people in the trucking industry trying to innovate and recruit younger drivers. we have the co-founder of the next generation of trucking association, he's joining us from patterson, california, where he teaches a trucking course at the high school, the local high school. good to see you. >> hi, fredricka, thank you for having me today. >> this is fascinating. it's just one class in a larger program at the high school. the focus is on supply chain job preparedness. give us an idea of how this works and who would be the best recruit, particularly at the high school level, to be a good truck driver. >> well, actually, it's part of the supply chain and logistics program at the high school that was created 12 years ago. we have a working warehouse where students learn the skills and a forklift certification program as well. we came in five years ago with
the trucking program. we saw a need for it. we've been talking about a driver shortage for close to 15 years now and the current solution, the industry solution of stealing drivers from each other is just not sustainable. so we knew we needed to create a pipeline of young, well-trained talent into this industry. >> what's the incentive? how do you engage, entice young people, if that's going to be the focus, to be truck drivers? >> it really comes down to education and, sadly, most students are just never exposed to any vocational trades or the military while they're in high school. we kind of created this singular path to success, which is a four-year degree, and so our part of our mission and one of the reasons we started the next generation trucking association is to help educate younger people with the opportunities that are part of this great industry. >> so what's the criteria you're looking for in a young driver?
you've got teenagers who just got their driver's license and they've got to figure out how to navigate a traditional driving vehicle on the road, and now you're talking about an 18-wheeler. a lot of power, you're pulling quite the cargo. who would make the best truck driver? what's the criteria? >> so we actually, we're using a unique program called job behaviors, and this is an assessment that looks at the attributes that successful truck drivers possess, so we test our 11th graders, and based on how the students score we connect with the students and invite them to take the class. we're looking for people that really embrace leadership qualities. in fact, that's really like our theme of the whole program. safety is our number one priority and that's one reason we incorporate the simulator technology, because the simulators, we can actually put
students through certain situations that either they will experience in real life or hopefully they don't experience in real life, but we want to make sure they're prepared to handle the situations before they're in them. it's 180 hours of classroom instruction with an additional 30 hours on the simulator. >> and we see the simulator behind you and you've got great hope in the drivers of tomorrow, but then you also want the experienced driver to get engaged and become a truck driver. what do you suppose is behind the current driver shortage? how do you try to recruit more experienced drivers to get in those simulators behind you? >> well, that's a great question. currently the average age of somebody that's entering the industry is 38 years old. it's somebody who is actually going into trucking as a second and third career choice. and we often think about, how different would this industry look and feel if we had people going into trucking as a first career choice? and that's one reason the need
is so important to create more high school programs, educate more people, so people actually have a passion for this industry, as opposed to just doing it to make some money. and salaries are going up. it's a very well-paid career. but we want people to kind of enter this industry with a passion for the industry. >> glad to hear that salaries are going up. what about demand? are you finding that there is a greater interest now in people who are thinking about whether it's going to be a second career or maybe a first career to be a truck driver? >> oh, definitely. we actually offer the same program as an adult ed class, and that class maxes out each semester. so there is a huge demand, there's a lot more people that are learning about the industry, because they're starting to learn that it is a professional industry and that it can offer people a work/life balance. not all of the jobs out there are considered over the road. there's a lot of local positions that enable people to have that
work/life balance and be home every night. >> that's great to hear that kind of variety. i'm sure that's incentive, too, a real plus as you try to recruit people. thank you so much. all the best to you. hopefully it is a smooth road ahead for you. >> thank you so much for having me. hello, again, everyone. thank you so much for being with me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin this hour with a monumental win for the biden presidency and plans for a victory lap of months of democratic party infighting and hours of tense negotiations. the house finally passed his $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill late friday. today the president touted the bill at the white house and cnn has now learned that biden and his top cabinet officials plan to hit the road and tour the country in the coming weeks to promote the benefits of this bill. for more now on these developments, let'