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good evening. you could call this moment a red alert for democrats in more ways than one. they are clearly treating it that way after losing every major race in virginia from the governor on down. losses in formerly blue new york suburbs and a race for new jersey governor which is still undecided but wasn't expected to be so close. last night showed independent support for democrats eroding with one republican party official telling "politico" last night, and i quote, democrats were renting those voters, not buying them. also, dragging on democrats, the president underwater in the polls and a party failing to deliver on potentially popular infrastructure and social spending legislation. something the president acknowledged today. >> well, i think we should have -- it should have passed before election day, but i'm not
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sure that i would be able to have changed the number of very conservative folks who turned out in the red districts who were trump voters, but maybe. >> more on the president and his agenda, shortly. as well as analysis of what happened in virginia. but first, cnn's mj lee joins us with more on the still-undecided new jersey's governor's race. the democratic incumbent phil murphy narrowly leading his republican challenger, jack ciattarelli. mj, this was certainly a lot closer than a lot of people thought. >> reporter: yeah, that's absolutely right, anderson. certainly, a lot closer than what phil murphy and his campaign and democrats had hoped to see. the latest update right now from here asbury park, new jersey, is that the murphy campaign has announced just within the last hour that he plans on giving a speech tonight at around 10:00 in the building behind me. this is where the election night
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party was held last night and this is where they had hoped to give a victory speech last night. the reason that they are doing that is because some other outlets have called the race for phil murphy but i want to be very clear, cnn has not made a call at this moment on who is going to be projected the winner of this race. but already, we are hearing in conversations we have had today with murphy advisers and aides and other democrats, they are doing some soul searching right now to try to figure out why this race has been so much closer than they had hoped for and had anticipated. and certainly, enthusiasm issues and some turnout issues are some early assessments that have come out from these democrats that we have been speaking to. simply that in some of these very highly democratic areas, they didn't see the turnout that they had hoped. in some of the very republican areas, they saw a huge amount of turnout and enthusiasm for their republican opponent jack ciattarelli. again, we should be hearing from the new jersey governor in the next several hours.
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but cnn has not yet made a call in this race, anderson. >> and what are the chances for a recount? >> reporter: you know, that's an interesting question, given just how close this race has been. basically, the rule is that if a candidate has reason to think that there were errors in the counting, within 17 days of election day, they could ask a judge to start that recount process. however, i should be very clear, that's not really where the conversation is right now. we did see a press release from jack ciattarelli and his campaign within the last hour or so basically saying they believe that the race is too -- too close to call right now. that the margin is too close. they don't think the votes are quite where they are for the race to be called. so, they are making clear that there is no kind of public concession that they are giving right now. and as for murphy, last night, he made very clear when he gave the speech in the building behind me -- again, not a victory speech, almost an apologetic speech to the people who had gathered here.
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saying, sorry, we can't celebrate yet. he had emphasized the importance of counting every vote. so we'll see what his message is on that point later tonight when we hear from the governor. >> mj lee, appreciate it. thanks. perspective now from former republican congressman from virginia. also, former new jersey republican governor christine todd whitman. did you think this race in new jersey would be this close? and what does that and the results in virginia tell you? >> well first of all, i don't think anybody expected it to be this close. we expected it to be close because traditionally, democrats -- even though they have a million-vote plurality in registered voters in this state -- they've been lazy in the off-election years. and it wasn't since my election in 1993, which was the first time an incumbent governor had been defeated in a general election, no democrat has won a second term. so to that extent, phil murphy was bucking a trend and it looks now as if he may be, in fact, the -- the winner. and jack ciattarelli decided that what he needed to do was to
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go for the very conservative, the trump base, which he did extremely well. and they vote. he knew they would vote. he was counting on the democrats being less than enthusiastic about murphy and frankly i -- i just don't know whether -- how much work the murphy team, not the governor himself in the -- during the election, because he campaigned very hard. but in the past four years, how much time they spent and got him down to the various or out to the various counties to help the local elections, because that's so important here in the state of new jersey, because it's all about getting out the vote. and i think the message to both -- if jack ciattarelli doesn't win, it's a sign that, you know, going for just the trump base isn't going to be enough, because he wouldn't have gotten those moderate republicans who have left the republican party. i mean, that's why for the first time in our history, 50% of registered voters are unaffiliated. and the same message is kind of true in virginia. >> yeah, congressman, i mean, have republicans found a winning formula in the post-trump era at least in virginia?
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or -- or are these results more because democrats are so split and didn't deliver anything in congress that could have energized voters? >> well, credit first goes to glenn youngkin. he's likable, he's smart. he ran a great campaign. and i think right choice voting, which hasn't gotten a lot of discussion has helped with that. that is, virginians nominated an authentically conservative candidate but one who didn't frighten independents and moderate democrats. >> he didn't have to go through the primary process that a lot of other republicans have to go through. >> well, that's correct and i think that that process -- i was actually stunned as the former republican congressman, you know, that glenn youngkin prevailed. it was a strong, diverse ticket. i was thrilled with it. i didn't know that they would go all the way to the finish line. but they did. so i think it bodes well for republicans nationwide, but it's
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not a ticket, just a clear ticket to victory. i think that lessons learned, like president -- ex-president donald trump not physically coming to virginia. i think that helped glenn youngkin and the whole ticket. so, i this i that's a lesson -- i don't know if the former president will get that, i think he'd help most republicans if he'd stay home at mar-a-lago, but i don't think he will, he's a narcissist. >> governor whitman, it was kind of a unique situation for glenn youngkin because, again, he didn't have to run in a primary against very, very far right, you know, trumpians. didn't have to play that game. i mean, if the former president does enter this race as president, which it certainly seems a good chance he's going to do that, is the youngkin model going to hold? >> well, i think the democrats -- the republicans, excuse me -- have to be very concerned if donald trump decides he wants to be the nominee because, frankly, right now, he controls the apparatus and he could be that person. but he is so divisive, i think youngkin showed that the way to
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win is to walk that fine line between appealing to some of the issues that are critically important to the public that are the trump issues, quote/unquote. but not embracing trump himself. and some of that rhetoric. the undermining of -- of the rule of law and respect for the constitution. youngkin embodied those things at the same time that he did talk about critical race theory and other things that really matter to people in their homes, whether it's true or not, i mean, we know that there's no critical race theory being taught in virginia, but people care about those issues. and when you have mcauliffe saying that parents shouldn't have a role in telling teachers what they should teach, that really set people off. and you combine that with the fact that democrats seem to have a very hard time in -- in governing out of washington and that's not helpful at all to the democrats. they've got to be concerned about that. >> congressman, i mean, you know, people have talked about rebuilding a center in the republican party. but frankly, in both parties.
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but is either party really interested in that? all the red meat is for the base, all the fund-raising, the attention comes with going to the far left or to the far right, and certainly, again, in primary races, that seems to be the game one has to play. >> that's really unfortunate and hyper-redistricting has been a big cause of this. i am a big advocate for reform in how we actually set our congressional lines. i'm convinced -- this may sound a little bizarre, but i'm convinced we're not as polarized as we seem to be at literally the polls, because there is a ration nalal middle out there. i think it was reflected in the vote in virginia. i think democrats -- they ran too far, too fast, too left on too many issues. when you -- when you make statements like defund the place and -- and the mcauliffe gaffe of saying that parents don't really have a place for direct engagement in how their children are taught. that sounds really bizarre to -- to the rational middle.
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so i think candidates -- if they can be elevated through the primary process -- who are, you know, center-right or even center-left. i'd rather see a center-right candidate prevail, but center-right candidates can win. it is just a matter of getting the right candidates elevated in the primaries. >> governor whitman, i want to read a quote you said in an op-ed recently in "the new york times" saying, concerned conservatives must join forces with democrats on the most essential -- and your term -- imperative blocking republican leaders from regaining control of the house of representatives. can you just explain that? and do you think democrats are in a place to really pull that off? >> sure. i mean, what we were seeing in miles taylor and i in that op-ed is if a republican has a choice between a far-right republican and a moderate democrat, to vote democrat. and for the democrats, if they have a far-left democrat versus a centrist republican, vote for the republican, because i agree with the congressman. we do better when we have a center-left and a center-right party. that's the way the country
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really works and for the first time in our history, as i said, 50% of registered voters today are registered as independent or unaffiliated. now, that gives you 25% democrat, 25% republican. and that isn't even accurate because the democrats have better registration than the republicans. but that tells you, that's where the majority of the american people are. and i am fully supportive of the ranked choice voting in the first tranche. i mean, i guess we don't call them primaries anymore if you have those but they are because that forces candidates to talk to that middle ground, rather than allowing themselves to be driven by the fear that at primary, they are going to be attacked, if they are a democrat from the far left and republican from the far right and that's all they appeal to. and for congress then after that, they don't have to worry about the general election and talking to the middle because it's all over. because the districts have been drawn in such a way that they are totally safe. there is a lot we can do as americans. we have the ability to effect these kinds of decisions and people need to get engaged in their various states to call for
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that kind of reform. >> governor whitman, really fascinating. congressman, thank you so much. really appreciate it. coming up next, how democrats of both ends of pennsylvania avenue are reacting to the republican resurgence. also, a progress check on the still-unaccomplished legislative agenda that maybe would have made a difference. later, we will ask the surgeon general about the newly approved covid vaccine for young children, but also the grim milestone we just researched, 750,000 deaths, three-quarters of a million american lives lost since this whole nightmare began. voltaren is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel for powerful arthritis pain relief. voltaren, the joy of movement.
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reminded the president that many who voted for him simply wanted normalcy. she told "the new york times," nobody elected him to be fdr. they elected him to be normal and stop the chaos. cnn's jeff zeleny joins us from the white house. what is the mood inside the white house tonight? >> well, anderson, a year after joe biden was elected president, this republican resurgence really has shaken democrats here at the white house and, indeed, all across washington and on capitol hill. they know that this moment is not good. they know it's been a very rough summer, a very rough fall. but the one aide told me today, we must proceed forward. the best antidote to all of this is passing this legislation. but the reality is the exit polls in virginia last evening show that president biden is underwater. his disapproval rating, 54%. approval rating, 45%. not far off from former president donald trump. so, that was a bit of a, you know, a wakeup call here. but there is a -- a sense that if they get this legislation passed, that turns a corner, they believe. covid is turning a corner, but really, all of these challenging have added up to a pretty dark
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mood here, ironically, today was election day a year ago and a resurgence from republicans was not what anyone was expecting. 4 >> what did president biden say when he was asked about his message to voters in light of last night's results? >> we talked to him for awhile this afternoon when he was making a vaccine announcement. and he said, look, i know there is public and, you know, the american people are frustrated with washington, that they have not gotten anything done. he understands that, you know, that congress must act, but the question really is, what are they doing about it? but there are signs of a bit of a fresh sense of urgency after the results. certainly, losing in virginia and this exceptionally close race in new jersey, which actually has alarmed democrats even more. so the question is, can they get a vote on one of the bills this week? and then, can they turn a corner? so, he basically is saying, i feel, you know, the pains of the american people. he acknowledged inflation, he acknowledged, you know, worries among schools, among parents, but the reality is, the president didn't have much soul
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searching today after this really deafening democratic defeat here. they know they have to pass the bills and largely it is out of his control. it's up to congress. we will see if they do it. >> jeff zeleny, appreciate it. thanks. given the nondelivery policy the people tell pollsters they like by and large, now is a good time to talk to our next guest, washington democratic congresswoman pramila jayapal, who chairs the congressional progressive caucus. congresswoman jayapal, you saw what happened last night. do you take any blame in this? >> anderson, it's good to see you. look, i think the whole issue that we see from voters last night is people do need help from us, and that's what we've been working to do with the president's build back better agenda. it is really transformational. and i think the cries for help in the midst of an economy that was handed in tatters to the president, that we have actually worked to fix since we've come into power in the house, the
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senate and the white house. we cut child poverty in half, we got shots in arms, we got money to small businesses, but obviously, anderson, this was a two-year pandemic that the republican party did not take seriously and we're still climbing out of it. >> right, but you're saying people last night were saying that they need help -- doesn't seem like they're asking you, progressive democrats for help, it seems like they are asking now republicans for help, even though you say republicans botched the vaccine rollout. i mean, republicans did well last night. >> they did. and i think part of that is, you know, look, we have to pay attention to local politics. and i think that democrats are the party oaf parents, not republicans. we are the ones that are looking to pass universal child care, universal pre-k, to put prescription drug costs and as soon as we get that done, i think people will see that. and we'll be able to, you know, really show people that we have
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their backs. i mean, the timing of this was obviously awkward, but i really believe that this is what happens in many elections when you have one party take over three in off-year elections. this is not abnormal. and i think that we will get through the next, you know, this doesn't mean anything for the midterms. that's not to say we shouldn't take it seriously. we absolutely should. >> you don't think this means anything for the midterms? >> well, i just think we have to take it seriously but it shouldn't be projected to be a loss for the midterms. what we have to do is turn the ship by passing these two bills, and i think there is increased urgency to do just that. there is real unity in the democratic caucus around passing both the build back better act and the infrastructure bill. and i hope to be able to do that this week. >> when you look at sort of, you know, the law enforcement candidacy of eric adams, victorious democrat in -- in new york. measures to change the police department in minneapolis failing.
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democratic socialist winning the democratic primary in -- in -- in buffalo. but then, losing to the former democratic mayor in a write-in. i mean, has the democratic party gone too far left? i mean, your caucus? is it -- is that where the country really is? >> we are -- we have been working to pass the president's build back better agenda. this is not some far-left agenda. this is the president's agenda that he came down to capitol hill and unveiled to us in february and we are so proud of his leadership. he's been doing a phenomenal job with really bad hand and there are progressive candidates that have won in many cities across the country, including in boston and cincinnati. we're so proud of those firsts. but i think that this is really important to understand. we have been working to pass the president's agenda. and the democratic party, as a whole, we have differences. it's true.
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and people say we have been negotiating for a long time but let me be clear, anderson. the real negotiation on build back better really only started about four weeks ago. it's barely been anything, but it happens to fall in this time where, you know, we did have elections and, of course, we have the natural backlash of a cycle. so, i would just say to everybody, focus on the fact that we are going to pass two transformational bills that are going to change people's lives. and it's really important that we think about it as -- as -- you know, how do people wake up in the morning and feel differently about their livelihoods and their opportunities? it's because they finally have child care, they finally have pre-k. >> but what does it say -- what does it say that -- that you're going to pass, you know, you say you're going to pass these two transformational bills and there's going to be a lot of things that a lot of people are going to like and need. that very well may be true, but it still doesn't seem that it's going to make them like democrats.
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i mean, maybe i'm completely overstating this, but you would think if people saw, well, that's coming down the pike and yes it hasn't happened yet and gosh that's a great thing, they would vote -- it would have gone better for democrats last night. it doesn't seem like it. doesn't seem like, in fact, it was kind of a resounding slap in the face to democrats. >> well, i don't think that's true. i think we are going to win new jersey and i think that in virginia, it was a challenging thing because, you know, i think we cannot run on just tying trump to republicans. i think that people want to forget about trump, because he was so chaotic and so destructive. and so, i think what we have to do is, we have to run on local issues. we have to acknowledge people's pain. and we have to show that we've delivered. and i believe that that will bring people back, it will also raise enthusiasm within our base and i think we will turn things around. and again, this is not unusual for this to happen in an off-year. >> you're not freaking out.
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overall, you're not freaking out tonight. >> right. >> did you have a little freakout last night? was a little freakout last night and then you woke up and you were okay, no, it's fine, or is that not your style? >> well, look, there's always -- of course i want the results to be different, right? but i think that this is -- this is a difficult time for our country. we -- we literally had to fight off a coup attempt on january 6th, anderson. we still have people who believe that the president -- president biden is not actually legitimately elected. so, let's just put things in perspective. we are coming out of a really difficult time. we will make it through. i have faith in the american democracy. i have faith in joe biden. and i have faith in democrats to deliver both of these bills. >> congresswoman jayapal, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. the protest called to defund police was dealt a blow last night when the city of minneapolis, the place where george floyd was killed, voted to reject an effort that would have overhauled the police department. we are going to take a look at how that result could serve as
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voters weighed in on policing on election day in very different ways. in new york city, they elected democrat eric adams as their new mayor. the retired nypd police captain ran on a law and order platform. today, he outlined ways he plans to keep the city safe. meanwhile, in minneapolis, where
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a police officer killed george floyd last year, voters rejected a ballot measure calling for an overall of the city's police department, which could have implications nationwide. cnn's ryan young has more. >> defund -- >> mpd! >> reporter: the calls for reform were unrelenting as protests spread across the nation in the wake of outrage over the murder of george floyd at the hands of minneapolis police. black lives matter and defund the police became rallying cries for millions protesting police brutality. in minneapolis, there were calls to dismantle the police department entirely. but the actual specifics of defunding or even dismantling by reducing police budgets or reallocating money to other police services have been less clear. >> minneapolis was thinking of doing was simply dissolving it and creating something no one really understood. >> reporter: on tuesday, minneapolis voters rejected a ballot measure to overhaul policing that would replace the police department with a
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department of public safety. and eliminate a requirement to employ a minimum number of police officers tied to the population there. >> there is a demand for change, and -- and for even, you know, major change. but it can't just be a political slogan. >> reporter: more than 56% of voters in minneapolis said no to the question on the ballot. >> we are not anti-police. we are actually just about people being safe and whole and healthy. and -- and, you know, it is unfortunate that a handful of folks have really weaponized something that really shouldn't be, has made something controversial. >> reporter: the outrage that reached a boiling point over george floyd's murder seems now to be taking a back burner to concerns about public safety. across the country, anxiety over increasing gun violence has been diminishing the protest movement and efforts to fundamentally change the role of police. >> yes, we have our work cut out for us at the city. cops need to get paid more and
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fired more. we need to make sure that we're incentivizing the best-possible, most skilled and professional individuals that have deep-seeded connections with their community. >> voting this season? >> reporter: the minneapolis ballot initiative was a first major electoral test of reform since the murder of george floyd and the ramifications of the initiative's defeat are resonating nationwide. >> and i think what you saw is the american people say, we want a change in the police but maybe that means increasing, investing and developing, not taking away. >> reporter: but reformers, despite tuesday's defeat, continue to demand change. >> anyone who recognizes how social movements work, recognizes that movements lose until they win. >> reporter: ryan young, cnn, atlanta, georgia. >> ryan young, thanks. joining us now, cnn political commentator, michael smerconish, host of "smerconish" saturday
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mornings here on cnn. how big a setback, michael, is that minneapolis vote for, you know, the most progressive of progressive democrats who actually want to defund police? >> i think it's a huge defeat for advocates of so-called police reform. if you can't get it done where george floyd was killed, where are you going to be able to get it done? it's a terrible messaging issue. it's a terrible messaging issue in so far as defunding the police. anderson, that sounds like some sort of an altruistic goal that you have for somebody else's neighborhood, not yours. and yet, i think there is merit to the idea that is being advanced. we had a case in philadelphia one year ago right now. walter wallace, 27-year-old, young african-american. history of mental health issues, wielding a knife. police arrive. they don't have tasers. gunshots fired. he's dead. this whole movement is about equipping them better to make sure that there's somebody else along for that ride who can de-escalate the situation. that sounds perfectly reasonable.
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but that's not defunding the police. they better bring in frank luntz and give it a new name. >> yeah. i mean, it always seemed like a slogan which, you know, i guess it was born in the streets during protests. and it's attention grabbing and i guess that's what activists want for slogans. but it really does more damage -- or it seems to have done far more damage, you know, to democrats and -- and even democrats, most of whom don't actually support it. there are very few democratic candidates, you know, major democratic candidates who have actually said, oh, yes, i'm running on defunding police. >> it requires explanation. and i don't know that most folks have patience for the soundbyte that's necessary to fully flesh out exactly what you're describing. you're not saying that you want a lower level of law enforcement, what you're saying is, you want a different allocation of resources. but it needs new messaging or it will never fly and if it couldn't fly in minneapolis, i don't see a prospect of it being successful elsewhere.
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>> it's also fascinating that new york city has elected eric adams as mayor, democrat. put a lot of emphasis on law enforcement. he's a retired new york city police department police captain. he actually joined the force after being brutalized by police. a story he's told publicly. in order to try to reform it from within. are there national lessons to take away from his victory? >> it's hard to say, because of the registration edge in new york city, which so benefits democratic candidates. if it had been in a different location, maybe you would be able to say that there is a blue book in there for other candidates. you point out, he didn't really run as someone with a tradition of being very tough on crime, law enforcement himself. but rather, somebody who got into the business because he had experienced, you know, police misconduct. so -- and he is also very difficult i think to pigeonhole and to label. so, i frankly don't know what to make of eric adams that could apply elsewhere. >> you know, i talked to congresswoman pramila jayapal earlier. she said that what happened last
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night in ballot boxes is not indicative of what's -- may happen or is not going to definitely predict what is going to happen in the midterms. how much trouble do you think democrats are in for the midterms? >> i think they're in a heap of trouble and with no disrespect to the congresswoman, i think it is in large measure due to this budget battle that continues in washington. joe biden -- president biden -- as i've said repeatedly, should have been given the win a long time ago. should have had that $1.2 trillion infrastructure as a notch in his belt. it was passed in the senate with the assistant of 19 republicans, including mitch mcconnell. and yet, the dems just cannot get their house in order. they have got to pass that bill, come back and fight another day for what she would like to see. >> yeah. michael smerconish, always good to talk to you. thank you. up next, what new video reveals about the night kyle rittenhouse shot and killed two men and injured another during protests in kenosha, wisconsin, we'll take you to the trial.
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joseph rosenbaum in kenosha, wisconsin, last august. as cnn's adrienne broaddus reports, even though both sides agree that rittenhouse didn't shoot first, they have drastically different views on why he shot and killed rosenbaum. we want to warn you that some of the video in the report is graphic. >> reporter: as kyle rittenhouse looked on, prosecutors played video after video of the gunshots that started a night of horror. first, a single shot. then, seven more. the shooting and what happens next have rittenhouse facing life in prison for the worst of five felonies, first-degree intentional homicide. both sides agree, joseph rosenbaum was the first rittenhouse killed. but the defense jumping in to make clear, their client didn't fire the first shot heard on the video. >> there was a first shot, which was not mr. rittenhouse's shot. >> reporter: instead, all sides agree a third person fired that first shot. the defense questioning an
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eyewitness who livestreamed the incident to make its point that rittenhouse was not an aggressor. >> you described rosenbaum as acting erratic, right? >> from all of the moments that i was around that you could notice, yes. >> you described rosenbaum as erratic and rittenhouse as chain smoking, yes? >> i suppose you could say nervous, i guess, would be a fairer way to say it. >> reporter: but prosecutors say this grainy fbi aerial surveillance video will show rittenhouse did move toward rosenbaum, while the defense says it shows rosenbaum hid behind cars before chasing rittenhouse, who opened fire. the most graphic of the videos showing the moment rosenbaum was shot four times. >> oh! >> reporter: and shortly after, when he was carried by bystanders and driven away. a detective confirming,
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rosenbaum was unarmed. >> so, no gun? >> no. >> no knife? >> no. >> no bat? >> no. >> no club? >> no. >> reporter: rittenhouse, who has pleaded not guilty, appeared to look down during some of the most dramatic video, which included the moment he shot two more people. killing 26-year-old anthony huber and injuring gauge grosskreutz. the case appears to rest on each side's portrayal of ritte rittenhouse's intent. the prosecution saying in opening statements that rittenhouse acted as a vigilante, igniting fear in a crowd after shooting an unarmed man. >> and as he is running, word spreads from the crowd on the street. that there is an active shooter running through the area. and the citizens there attempt to stop him. >> reporter: rittenhouse's attorneys argue self-defense and that he only fired his rifle after he was attacked.
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>> the other individuals who didn't see that shooting attacked him in the street like an animal. >> reporter: outside of testimony, the judge is in the spotlight for his unusual style. >> good thing we have the "jeopardy!" game for us to practice. >> reporter: playing "jeopardy!" with jurors during courtroom downtime. and referencing the bible during a hearsay objection in court. >> this is actually referred to in -- in the bible. st. paul when he was put on trial. >> reporter: and anderson, today, we also learned kyle rittenhouse didn't fire the first shot. the defense will likely use this to create a sense of chaos, that the shot fired by another person heightened the threat level, but by contrast, the prosecution also showed video of kyle rittenhouse speaking to a reporter, telling that person he was ready to run toward trouble and render medical aid if needed. this is all going to come down to whether or not jurors believe
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kyle hitten hougs was attacked or whether he escalated the situation by firing on unarmed men who potentially saw rittenhouse as a threat. anderson? >> adrienne, appreciate it. thank you. now to breaking news in the trial of the men accused in another controversial shooting, the killing of ahmaud arbery. you may remember arbery was shot and killed in 2020. his death sparked national outrage after video of the shooting was released to the public. tonight, after a long contentious process, the jury consisting of 11 white members and only one black member has been selected to decide the fate of the men accused of his murder. cnn's martin savidge joins us now from brunswick with the latest. so what can you tell us about the jury selection in this case? >> well, you know, this has always been a racially charged case. you got three men -- white -- who are charged with murdering a black man. and now, the result of jury selection, after two and a half
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weeks, is a jury that has 11 white members and only one african-american. the moment that result was known, the assistant district attorney jumped up, filed a motion with the court. and essentially, challenged the court saying, look, it was the contention of the prosecution that the defense had literally struck a number of african-american potential jurors from serving on that jury, simply because they were african-american. she pointed out at the beginning of the day, we had a jury pool of 64, of which, a quarter, she said, were african-american. yet, at the end of the day, after all the strikes and the defense team had far more strikes than the state did -- at the end of the day, we end up with the jury that has 11 whites and only one african-american. the defense team vehemently pushed back. they said, no, race had nothing to do with it. it was because these african-americans had answered a questionnaire the way they did or responded in court to individual questioning as they were. the judge basically said, look,
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i agree with the state here. we do believe that you rejected some of these people because they were african-american. but he also said there's not much i can do under the law. it stands. 11 whites, one african-american on this jury. anderson. >> martin savidge, appreciate it. thank you. we have more breaking news on the election that was too close to call until now. cnn has just projected a winner in the new jersey governor's race. he is democratic incumbent, phil murphy. governor murphy on his way to narrowly edging out his republican challenger, jack ciattarelli. joining us now, cnn political director david chalian. david, no one really thought this race was going to be this close. >> yeah. no. i spoke to a republican operative last week and they said, hey, it may be a shocker at some sort of high single digits. but you are looking at a one-point race right here. now, i will note this murphy lead, anderson, could grow. a lot of the outstanding vote -- i think we have 87% of the estimated vote in.
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that remaining 13% or so of the vote -- there are a lot of democratic-heavy areas. so that could pad. he may end up being in the mid-single digits, but this was a state joe biden won by 16 percentage points just one year ago. so, the fact that this race is this close speaks to this national political environment that we've been talking about, which is where the president's low approval numbers, the inaction in congress and the democrats sort of uncertain about how best to appeal to voters on their agenda right now. equals this kind of dramatic finish in a blue state. obviously, good news for the democrat that they won. but that's about all -- all you can say is good news in here. everything else inside this race and virginia and what we saw, it was a terrific night for republicans and a lot of lessons to be learned for democrats. >> david chalian, stay with us because i want to bring in mj lee. she's at asbury park, new
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jersey, at murphy headquarters. he's going to be speaking obviously soon, i assume? >> reporter: he is, anderson. the campaign announced within the last hour or so that he is going to be making a victory speech in this room at around 10:00 or so. the fact that this was the room where the campaign had had their election night party last night, and this is the room where he had hoped to make a victory speech, again, last night. that obviously didn't happen. the governor actually ended up coming here last night and apologizing to the folks that had gathered here to say, sorry, the counting continues. i'm sorry that we can't celebrate yet. but he did say he felt confident that once the votes were counted that things would look in their favor. and now, we know that this race, cnn is calling for phil murphy. i think we should just take a moment to talk about the significance of this race, too, as we have been talking about, this is the first time that a democratic governor is being
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re-elected in new jersey in over four decades. so, this is quite an accomplishment in and of itself. and we should just talk about the kind of campaign that he ran. through a deadly pandemic, an economic recession. and in tend, the message that we saw from him, was give me another four years. grade me on the job that i did over the last four years. and i promise you, what i'm able to offer will be better than what my republican opponent is offering. and i do think, anderson, another thing that is important to note, on the republican side, there will be questions about how you run as a republican candidate in the sort of post-trump area. he's had to have a fine balancing act, figuring out how to win over the trump base
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without alienating others who are turned off. >> and what kind of a campaign should he run compared to the candidate in virginia? >> he was a little more bold in his embrace of the trump wing of the party. but as m.j. was just saying, as the governor tried to indicate that he would be sort of a trump acolyte, it wasn't the thrust of his message. there was a lot more of, here's what i did, here's my record. and of course taxes is always a major issue in new jersey. a high tax state. so he was running on that as well. but he throughout the beginning phases of his candidacy was really courting that trump wing
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and that trump rhetoric quite aggressively, to m.j.'s point, which may have turned off some voters here. but if you're a democrat, looking at 2022, and you're sitting in a district that joe biden won by ten points, now you're looking at a district or running in a state that joe biden won by 16 or 20 points, you're saying i have a whole new race ahead of me, and i had better buckle up. >> it's a busy night. the u.s. death toll from covid now tops 750,000 people, three-quarters of a million lives lost. and we saw a major step in the fight against the pandemic. the first of 28 million children ages 5 to 11 are getting the pfizer vaccine. joining us for more, the u.s. surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy. thanks so much for being with
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us. now 28 million children can receive the vaccine, and do you think having this many more people eligible will move the u.s. from the pandemic to the endemic stage of the fight? >> anderson, this is certainly a big step in that direction. 28 more million people eligible means 28 million more people who can be protected against covid, many parents can take a sigh of relief knowing there is protection. i have a 5-year-old and my wife and i were waiting for this day. and the data for the vaccine was really carefully considered by the fda and cdc. they looked thoughtfully, carefully, and rigorously, looking at both the efficacy as well as safety data. and on both counts, they came
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out strongly feeling that this is safe. >> are you getting your 5-year-old vaccinated, and what do you say to parents who still may be wary? >> yes, i am going to be getting my 5-year-old vaccinated with my wife, we're very excited for this moment. and we know that parents have questions, and that's reasonable, and we should work hard to get the questions answered. that's why we've been building a national outreach initiative, to make sure that parents can get answers that are accurate and scientific from sources they trust. but here's what i would say to parents, number one, the safety of our kids is the most important thing in the world. it's true for all of us as parents. but number one, the vaccines are highly effective. more than 90% effective protecting our kids.
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and the side effect profile was similar to adults, some pain and swelling in the arm, some experienced fatigue and headache. but that usually went away within a couple of days, and kids were left with protection. and consider this. there is a lot of misinformation floating around about covid. and parents should expect to be hit with a lot of misinformation on social media and other channels. make sure to get your questions answers from credible courses like the doctor, the children's hospital, and the cdc. that's absolutely essential. >> it's inevitable that parents will get inundated with stuff online, misinformation and the like, there's so much of that floating out there. the cdc estimates that 35% of children 5 to 11 have been infected with covid. if a child has already had covid, how important is it for them to still be vaccinated?
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>> this is a really important question. we know that in general, when you get infected with a virus, covid or another one, your body develops some protection. but what we don't know enough about is how durable that protection is. what we've seen looking at other populations, there has been some variation in protection after infection, depending on age and the severity of illness. so we aren't as confident in the quality and durability of protection after infection. so that's why we're still recommending vaccines. vaccines have been heavily studied. we understand what kind of protection they render. and 90% protection is what the vaccine is affording for kids 5 to 11. that's really good. and when we've seen 1.9 million children in that group get infected, a number of kids
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struggling with long covid. if you want to reduce the risks, it turns out getting vaccinated is a really good thing. >> and 750,000 people have died from this -- dr. murthy, i'm wondering on this horrific milestone, what do you think of that number? and how many of those deaths did not, should not have happened, given our knowledge and capabilities? >> well, anderson, there's nothing more heartbreaking than hearing that number. 750,000-plus lives lost. these are our brothers and
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sisters, family members, and friends. i've lost members of my own family, many others have as well. it's a tragedy, an absolute tragedy. and sadly, hundreds of thousands of these lives could have been saved if we had been able to get more people vaccinated. we should also remember, many thousands of lives were saved because 190 million people are fully vaccinated as well. so i think about the family members i've lost, and they inspire me to make sure that people get vaccinated. my loved ones died prior to a vaccine being available. i so wish they had lived to see a vaccine. i feel pretty confident they would have gotten it. they didn't have that opportunity. today many people do, which is why i'm doing everything i can
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to make sure folks understand the facts about the vaccine. we want as many people as possible to be protected from this virus. >> dr. murthy, i protect your time. thank you. >> thanks, take care. >> we'll be right back. deserves puffs indeed. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy
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