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hello, it's good to be with you. democrats are facing a sobering reality of major setbacks on election day. this is the first since joe biden took the white house. what was expected to be a smooth win for the party in new jersey, the governor's race there, that's still too close to call. and in virginia in the governor's race there, voters
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rejected democrat, terry mcauliffe. his five-point lead two months ago turned into defeat to republican glenn youngkin, the projected winner. now, parts of youngkin's campaign may become part of the playbook for future gop candidates. let's start in new jersey with jason carroll. i understand votes there still being counted, jason. >> yeah, they are still counting the votes. they're going to be counting down to the wire. at last check, i think we saw murphy was up by some 15,000 votes. still much closer than democrats thought it would be. c the reason they were able to close the gap is because they were able to hammer murphy on issues like mask mandate, critical race theory and property taxes. as you know, folks here in new jersey pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. murphy, for his part, basically
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driving home his progressive accomplishments. raising the minimum wage, taxing the wealthy, expanding paid family leave, but also a lot of folks feel as though he did a good job tieing ciattarelli to trump as much possible. certainly that was the case with one voter we spoke to this morning. >> absolutely. i saw a rerun of an interview that jack ciattarelli did and i saw this sometime between the election of trump and january 6th. and he was defending the, recount the votes, he was sort of subtly reenforcing the big lie. that enflamed me. i wrote him a letter, handwritten letter. right then. then after january 6th, i saw that interview again, a replay, and i sent him another letter. i never got a reply, but there's no way i could vote for him. >> so again, still a very tight
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race between these two candidates. just a short while ago, i had an opportunity to send a text message out to the ciattarelli folks just to find out what they're doing. they're watching the results as they're coming in. basically saying there's going to be no public or press schedule as of yet and then the campaign aide sent another text that said stay tuned. victor. >> all right, jason carroll for us in fort lee. thank you. now let's turn to glenn youngkin. part of a sweep of republicans who are projected to win or likely going to win statewide in virginia where president biden beat donald trump by ten points just a year ago. so, youngkin is now projected the governor elect there. what's he plan to do on day one? >> that was a big pitch throughout the campaign. he often used that rhetorical device, on day one, i will do x, over and over again, to fire up the crowd, and it worked.
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his promise to ban things like critical race theory, even though it's not taught in virginia schools. he has made parental choice a central point in his campaign, taking advantage of a comment terry mcauliffe made in the second and final debate. he's also said he will protect immunity and cut taxes. mentioning specifically a grocery tax in the commonwealth of virginia. his campaign is euphoric at this point. they were upbeat heading into election day, but i think even they were surprised by the results they saw. especially in places like rural virginia. some of the western counties where you saw turnout was high and that he won about 85 to 80% of these counties. take a listen to what he told supporters yesterday at his victory party. >> together, together. we will change the trajectory of this commonwealth.
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and friends, we are going to start that transformation on day one. >> there you hear that day one pledge once again. as you hear there as well, this isn't just about washington, d.c. of course, the biden administration, what is happening in washington was a factor in this race, but it's been eight years of democratic control in virginia and what youngkin represented to a lot of republicans was a chance to finally get back in this race. finally have a republican statewide candidate who could win. and that's why as you saw in that clip, youngkin was so euphoric about not just the national implications of this race, but of course the next four years of republican leadership in the commonwealth. >> thank you, dan. let's talk about take aways from the results. ron brownstein is cnn's senior political analyst, senior editor at the atlantic. s.e. cupp is a cnn political commentator and doug jones is a
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cnn political commentator and former democratic senator for alabama. welcome. senator, i'm going to start with you. virginia, a loss. new jersey, too close for comfort for democrats. are these signs that democrats need to change course? >> you know, victor, here's the problem. democrats, this is an old playbook for democrats. they don't know where people are sometimes and they win elections then they're going to turn around and lose elections. i think democrats have to take a very serious look at who they're really talking to and how they're talking about these issues and as everybody that i've seen today has talked about, democrats have to produce. they have to come together as a party to get things done for the american people. that's why they were voted, that's why joe biden was elected. he's got a great plan in the build back better program. he's got a great plan in the infrastructure bill. those need to get done and if they need to get done one at time, so be it. they just need to get done. democrats have to put their
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money where their mouth is and they have to deliver on the promises they made to people. >> all right, so ron, is there evidence that what we saw, which objectively is a considerable amount of losses potentially for the progressive movement last night, it's that they haven't delivered those elements or that people just don't like the dog food. >> i think it's more the former than the latter, but there is a component of that. as well. look, the common thread in what we saw is that this is what happens to the president's party in off year elections when his approval rating is sagging. i mean, that is the single biggest factor here. joe biden in the state of virginia, he won 55% of the vote. only had a 45% approval and what you get at midterms, especially when the president is sagging, is that the party that's out of the white house is just enraged and ready to vote and you saw enormous turnout for youngkin.
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pretty mild mannered candidate in many ways in those red parts of the state then you see kind of discouragement and disappointment among the other side. among democrats and compared to when democrats won the state in 2017 or 2020, this electorate was older, wider, less college educated, more republican. so on one hand, i think you can say yes, democrats have to show their base voters that they can deliver more than they have done so far. but on the other hand, i think it's also clear that many voters in the middle don't see the debate in washington as particularly relevant to what they are worried about right now. inflation. economic uncertainty. the persistence of the pandemic and so in many ways, it's important for biden to get this done both to show results, but also to allow him to get back to focusing i think on what people are focusing themselves on more right now. >> let's talk about issues and let me correct myself. people don't typically like dog food.
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it's usually the dog that likes it. s.e. -- thank you very much, ron. let me come to you with what is transferrable from the youngkin win yesterday. you know, we know that as we heard from ron, that his campaign was focused on the economy. was focused on education. and of course, he played into the culture war, but he kept a distance from former president trump. that may not be an option in 2022, certainly not 2024. how much can republicans really extrapolate from this win? >> yeah. i think if we look at the rejection of trump as a series of baby steps, which was a baby step. we didn't see a candidate who disavowed donald trump. we didn't see a candidate who was ashamed of donald trump. we saw a candidate who very sort of politely avoided donald trump while trying to get some of his
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voters. and so that is a baby step that i think should certainly be encouraging to people like me who really kind of left the party because of trump, but should also signal to republicans at the rnc and in other races coming up, you don't have to be a mini trump or embrace trump so giddily as other candidates have to win. you don't have to do that. so i think, i think there is a good lesson there and it will certainly be transferrable in states that look like virginia. >> s.e., let me stay with you though on the former president because he is taking credit for the win. i mean, as one would expect. let me read what he told virginia radio show host this morning. i heard virginia is blue, but i've never believed it was blue. without maga, youngkin would have lost by 15 points or more. instead of giving us credit, they say, oh, he's more popular
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than trump. so to your point, i mean, it was a baby step away from the former president because he won't allow his party to get too far away from him. >> i know trump wants to take credit from this win and sometimes he deserves credit for candidates winning in desperate races. i think the person who gets credit for this win is terry mcauliffe for losing it. i mean, i can't imagine having the gal l to tell virginia votes they shouldn't have a say in their kids education. that didn't go over well and by looking at the exit polling, women really turned out for women. i think the lesson is you don't mess with moms. t trump learned that as well. suburban women left the republican party in droves and voted for biden because they didn't like the message trump was sending. for mcauliffe not to have learned that lesson in virginia
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is bizarre to me. there's lots of reasons why youngkin won. i think to me, that is the most salient reason and least kind of mysterious. >> senator, to you. terry mcauliffe brought in the cavalry. brought in president biden and vice president harris, former president obama. how much of that matters when gas is 3.35 a gallon or when beef is up double digit percentages over a month or last four weeks or so? getting to those, in some cases, quite literal, kitchen table issue that is we didn't hear from him. >> as tip o'neill said, all politics is local. and i think a lot of people brought in to try to get the base turnout up. which i think succeeded to some extent. there was a base turnout overall
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the turnout was there. but the fact of the matter is when people, those folks who decided, the people in the middle, when they go to the polls, they're going to be looking at those kitchen table issues and they want to get tl things done. i think what we're seeing with donald trump right now, despite what he said on the virginia radio station, right now, he is seeing the media and everyone else talking about this race being won by distancing from donald trump and on that radio station, he's already beginning to double down. this is not going to be a walk in the park for the republican party because donald trump will double down. at the same time, democrats just can't run against donald trump. we've got to put things out there. we've got to put proposals out there that affect people's every day lives and have a message that gets to those people where they are and not where we want them to be. >> ron, what's the lesson from new jersey? this was expected to be as i said at the top, not necessarily
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a guarantee, but a smoother path to victory for governor murphy and this is within less than a point at this point, of course. >> yeah, well i think the lesson from new jersey, i'm going to contradict the senator, is that all politics is local is not really true anymore. it's that all politics are national and a receding tide lowers all votes. new jersey did not have the big flash point issues or intense national focus that virginia did and yet you see the democratic vote share decline at least potentially at least as much as it did in virginia and i think what that tells you is the centrality of the president's approval in modern u.s. elections, you know n 2013 when mcauliffe won the first time, obama's approval in virginia was also underwater in the election, but mcauliffe was able to win because only about 80% of the people who disapproved of obama voted against him.
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that was the same share of people who disapproved of trump who voted democratic in 2018 and i think this is a big, red siren telling democrats that they really can't run away from the president in their own party no matter what they do personally and that ultimately, both the white house and the democrats in congress have to figure out a way to rebuild more public confidence that biden has the big problems of the country under control because if they don't, this is a preview of what they can look forward to next november. >> thank you, all. >> thanks. so, democrats in congress said they were making progress. now house speaker pelosi is now adding an element back to the social spending bill, looking to key democrat, senator joe manchin. also, minneapolis rejects a ballot initiative aimed to overhaul the city's bpolice department. we'll take you there live, next. from the very first touch, pampers, the #1 pediatrician recommended brand,
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nancy pelosi is adding four weeks of paid family medical leave back to the social spending bill. you know, democrats just dropped it from the framework days ago. cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju is with us now. why is the speaker bringing it back? >> this is a sign of a shift in strategy. i for some time, she's been saying she'll only move a bill in the house that will pass the senate because she did not want to have some of her members cast difficult votes twice. she wanted to have the same version be approved and sent to the president's desk. that is no longer the situation here because pelosi is struggling to get the votes behind the scenes and trying to take action and try to win over people who may be holding out and putting in paid leave certainly is supported by virtually all of her caucus including some who may be skeptical about backing this measure. but even though it's, it will be
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added into the house and assuming it's passed by the house larger $1.5 trillion bill, it will almost certainly be stripped in the is that the because of joe manchin, who told me today he is opposed to this. he says he wants it to go in a separate piece of legislation done along bipartisan lines. this all comes as the moderate and progressive wipgngs of the democratic party are essentially having a debate about how to proceed in the aftermath of last night's election results that went poorly for the democrats. some liberals are saying this shows that congress needs to act and deliver on both bill, but some like joe manchin are saying they need to take more time to vet the bills and explain it to our voters. listen. >> senator, what went wrong last night? >> failure to deliver. congress has to deliver. window's closing. we have no more time.
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we need to get it done and as one who will be running for re-election in 2022, i need results that i can show the american people that congress can deliver. >> and what did you saw last night, do you think voters were sending the message that the party should pare back on the very progressive policies they're pushing now? >> you know, i'm not going to speak on the message that was sent. i just, i just think the message that was really sent if we're going to do something, let's take time and do it right. let's make sure that people know what's in it. >> so a number of concerns that manchin has raised over the last day or so, it looks like we're taking pramila jayapal is now speaking to the cameras -- let's take a listen. >> final agreements and how incredible that we got something on prescription drug pricing negotiation. i think that's one of the most
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popular pieces of this package and again, it's about economic relief for middle class families, working class families who can't afford prescription drugs. w we're going to cap that and give real wins to people who need their insulin, childcare. we're going to cut the costs for working families and for families across the country. child tax credit. these are the things that will make people feel differently about their lives and livelihoods. >> why is paid family leave going back into the bill without manchin's okay? >> you know, i'm so excited that it is going back into the bill. that's been a priority of the progressive caucus for a long time and we're thrilled. let's see what the discussions have been, but it's fabulous news from our standpoint. >> is the solution, is this going to have tax cuts for billionaires in it. >> i think the provision has been dramatically changed and the proposal that tom and katie
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porter had put forward i think is a proposal that we could support. >> what about -- >> did you just do that together? were you going to ask the same question? >> review it before they bring it to the floor for a vote. clock's working against you right now. >> they've had 72 hours, you know. the bill was released on thursday. we spent the whole weekend, our membe members did, reading through the entirety of the text. there are some changes, but we need to get it done and vote both bills out and that's what we're going to do. >> are there going to be benefits for -- >> i think i know the answer to that, but i'm not sure so i want to make sure everything is changing by the minute so maybe we'll get that information when i go in there. but i think you know, obviously immigration is another one of our priorities, our five priorities that we've been pushing very hard on. you know how important it is to me personally. something that i've spent my
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life working on as an immigrant myself. so i'm hoping for the most that we can possibly get. >> what do you plan to do during the recess? what are you expecting to hear from your voters about the agenda about these bills? >> i'm going to sleep. no, look, i'm going to be out every minute i can talking to people about what we're going to deliver because i think that's what people need to hear. they want us to hear their pain and they want us to know that things are tough. things are still tough. covid is still an issue. healthcare is still an issue. housing is still an issue. childcare is still an issue. jobs. the build back better plan has more jobs than the infrastructure bill. so and it has jobs for women and jobs for folks of color. so that's what i'm going to do. i'm going to be out there making sure everyone knows what it is that we just passed. thank you. i'm going to run. >> back to your district without anything yet? >> so couple of things there
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sticking out is one of which she said the issue about salt. now that is the issue about state and local tax deductions that have been pushed by the members from the northeast in particular. concerns about how it was capped in the 2017 republican tax law. they wanted to loosen those to make it easier to deduct those taxes. it had been a major sticking point. some of the progressives had been concerned and opposed to what the salt provisions were going to be in this proposal. she just said there she expects that to change dramatically and expects whatever changes are mode to win her support. the issue is immigration. that remains a major sticking point in this bill. there is provisions in there to help deal with the folks who are in this country undocumented immigrants who are in this country. now that provision has been resisted by a number of moderate democrats. joe manchin in particular has indicated his concerns including in the underlying bill and right now, nancy pelosi is meeting
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with key hispanic lawmakers who have demanded immigration be part of this bill or they may withdraw their support. jayapal there says she doesn't know about the results either. she is walking into a house caucus meeting coming at a crucial moment. nancy pelosi expected to brief her caucus about what's going on here. we'll see if she details if thethe sticking points have been resolved about when they can get this done. >> thank you so much. let's bring in now democratic congressman reuben guyego. he represented a district in arizona. i want to start with paid leave and are you part of the conversations on why this is now been added back to the bill? >> i think a lot of us have had the same feeling and the idea we're going to negotiate among
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ourselves because of what one or two senators want just didn't make any sense. there's a process for them to deal with what they don't like. i think something we have here is that the bill has been marinated. it's time for us to put it in the oven. putting in something popular among members as well as the public on the table is extremely important to get this going. >> let me ask you about immigration policy included in the bill as well. manu there hinted that there are some members of the hispanic caucus who potentially would withhold their vote to support it if it's not added back. are you one of those members who would not vote for it without that portion? >> well, just depends what you're actually, when you say imd immigration, there's a lot that could be in that and what it means. s >> what needs to be in it to get your vote? >> i have to see what the proposals are, but the most
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po important thing is that a minimum, you have to have a pathway for my arizonans to have some stability in their lives and be free of deportation. these are the 190,000 that kept us alive during this pandemic. they were the essential workers and i'd like to at least add some type of relief so they can stay with their families, but that being said again, you know, i think we're here to negotiate. i want to see the best bill possible. one that has child tax credits in there. so families can get $300 a month per kid. so families can make some, to have some support when it comes to childcare. so i'll look at the overall bill because that's what really matters to me. i want to make sure americans are better off with this bill and you know, part of that i think is stabilizing this population of this country that really kept us alive during this pandemic. >> let me get clarity there. you said at a bare minimum, you need that. without that, would you vote against it? >> yeah, i'd have to make a game
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time call. to be honest, as a human being, it's difficult to say no to something that's going to lift people out of poverty. i mean, you know, the child tax credit will bring poverty down, child poverty down by 50%. it's hard to say no to that. it's hard to say no to paid family leave. it's really hard to say no to childcare subsidies, which we all need. th it's a tough call and i'll have to make it then and listen to what my constituents are hearing. but i hope what we've been talking to speaker pelosi about, this needs to be in there because we need to repay these front line workers even though they kept us alive throughout this whole pandemic. like who was, who do you think was pulling the food out of the ground and who was processing the food while we were all, you know, staying in safely in our homes? this undocumented worker community. >> you said that the legislation should not be held to the whims
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and i'm paraphrasing here, your words, to one or two senators. one of those i expect you're speaking about is senator manchin, who made clear at the end of last week with the framework as it was that he was not supporting. he said there were shell games and budget gimmicks and that it would continue to balloon. it wouldn't be 1.75 trillion. since then, there's been a deal on prescription drug pricing. there's been movement on adding paid leave. you're talking about immigration here. does this not support or make his point that the bill will continue to balloon and make it less likely that it's going to pass? it's going to reach the president. >> well, look, the price hasn't gone up. by the way, the negotiations for prescriptions actually brings down the price of the 1.75 trillion you're talking about. so you know -- >> and paid leave? >> what's that? >> and paid leave? >> and paid leave was already part of the 1.75. but here's problem right now.
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>> paid leave has been dropped from the framework before it was presented. >> manchin kept moving back and forth, back and forth. what we need to do is deliver a bill so the american public can look at it and if manchin wants to work on it, he can work on the senate side. right now, there's a demand from our members as well as the american public. the stagnation they're seeing is disgusting and the way to do this is by actually popping the bill into the oven and sending it over to the senate side. we have the votes. let's close this votes and if manchin wants to negotiate with himself and other senators, he can do that. >> paid leave was dropped from the bill. it was added back to this framework. let you a broader question. what's the lesson you think democrats should take from what we saw in the votes last night? >> i think number one, if we believe that republicans are suddenly going to come back and you know, vote for democrats again like we had cross overso
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2020, it's not going to happen. it's not a coincidence he lives both worlds. he lives in the cnn msnbc world while at the same time, talking out of the right side of his mouth about you know, all these crazy conspiracy theories and using the bogeyman of critical race theory to really get the angry vote out. right? even though it's not taught in any public schools at all. so you're going to see a lot of politicians like that. they're going the try to play both worlds. they want to get the trump voter as well as the moderate voter. the democrats need to come with ideas and programs that we are going to be popular and be able to sell and we have to make sure that it impacts our whole base. that's why the build back better agenda is the key to that because it doesn't just take care of working class union guys when it comes to infrastructure bills, but it also takes care of
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working class women who want to go back to work but can't have proper childcare. takes care of seniors who can't afford proper hearing aids or prescription glasses. it takes care of working families just trying to make it and give them an opportunity with the child tax credit. this is the bill we can sell and what we need to send over right away so the senate can finish this and finally negotiate this out then we need to go talk about this great bill we passed. >> so some progressives in arizona are discussing potentially your primary senator sinema there because they're dissatisfied with her movement or positions as it relates to the president's agenda. is that something you are seriously considering primarying senator sinema? >> look, right now, and you've heard this again from me. i focus on passing the build back better agenda and winning 2022. that's my only focus. i'm going to leave the future to the future.
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i never say no to the future, but like that is not my focus right now. and you know, senator sinema has been very helpful in the last couple of days in terms of her movement. i think a lot of us appreciate that and we hope she continues to go that way because it will be beneficial to everybody in this country that we have a strong build back better bill. again, child tax credit, childcare subsidies, ability for you to use your medicare to pay for your prescription glasses and hearing aids. these are things that can be transformational for this country. >> thank you. >> thank you. dr. anthony fauci says it is time that the u.s. exits the pandemic phase and moves into the what he calls control phase. how millions of young children getting their first dose will impact that effort.
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covid-19 in the u.s. and that means that nearly 30 million more americans are eligible for those two shots. we got some pictures here of children in new york city getting vaccinated today. also in texas, officials at one children's hospital said they are seeing a tremendous response. parents are booking appo appointments. nearly 37,000 of them already scheduled. alexandria field has more on the rollout. >> i was pretty nervous, but then i said to myself that night, i have to do it to protect the world. >> a very big moment for america. >> absolutely happy tears. it's been an emotional journey. >> smaller shots in smaller arms. today, children as young as 5 are getting pfizer's covid vaccine. >> it's a big step into making the world normal again so we all don't need to wear masks and for everyone to be safe and healthy. >> i'm just happy. >> the decision to authorize
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shots for nearly 30 million kids, those between the ages of 5 and 11, means 94% of americans are now eligible to get a shot. president biden calling it a turning point in our battle against covid-19, one that could begin to help move the country further from the pandemic to the endemic phase of the virus. >> i'm not sure we're going to get to zero spread, but we want to get out of pandemic and into a more controlled phase. >> enough doses available today for millions of kids. by saturday, they'll be in select walgreens stores nationwide. >> if my daughters were in the age range of 5 to 11, i would definitely get them vaccinated but ask the kinds of questions that parents should and will ask about the safety, the efficacy, about why it's important to protect the children. >> while covid-19 is less likely to cause severe illness in children, about 700 children
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have died from the virus, according to the cdc, and children can suffer from long covid symptoms. studies show the side effects among vaccines are fewer among children. >> we've taken the time to get this right. the overwhelming evidence for parents to really know and understand is that the benefit of this vaccine so much outweigh the risks of covid itself. >> for some parents, it couldn't come soon enough. >> we'd like to travel. go to restaurants. be without mask and just be more, you know, safe. >> we were just waiting for the cdc to approve it. >> yesterday and we didn't hesitate. >> you really can't overstate how moe mentous this day is for a lot of parents. a lot of kids themselves who have been waiting for this moment. in the next hour, we're going to be hearing from the president. he'll be talking about the availability of the shots for the kids and over the next few weeks and months, we'll hear
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about the importance of getting the shots. it's not just about protecting your kid from covid. the community. it's about creating a more normal life for children. putting an end to disruptions to in-person learning and activities to hopefully getting back to life the way it was. >> more normal life for all of us. alexandra field, thank you. cnn is teaming up with "sesame street." dr. sanjay gupta and erica hill will be missing do not miss the abc's of covid vaccines this saturday morning at 8:30 only on cnn. the supreme court is hearing arguments today in the biggest gun rights case in more than a decade, what the ruling could mean for the second amendment, next. more chances to win this season. that's walmart's black friday deals for days. ♪ with clean, fresh ingredients,
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the supreme court may be on the verge of expanding second amendment rights. attorneys delivered oral arguments today on the biggest gun rights case in more than a decade. this case centers around a new york law that restricts individuals from carrying concealed guns in public for self-defense. survivors of gun violence gathered outsides court prior to the arguments pleading for a decision that could, they say, save lives. >> words once came easily. today i struggle to speak, but i've not lost my voice. america needs all of us to speak out even when you have to fight to find the words. i'm also in a second fight, the
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fight to stop gun violence. we are at a cross roads. we can let the shooting continue or we can act. >> former congresswoman gabby giffords there, good to see her doing so well. let's bring in cnn's jessica schneider. i know you have been monitoring this closely. what are we hearing there? is there anything to read in the tea leaves. >> probably, victor. the conservative majority in this case very critical of this law. if they end up striking it down, that would expand the scope and make it difficult for gun restrictions around the country, even though already in place to stand. now, this specific case, it concerns the concealed carry of firearms in public, and how or if government officials can restrict that right. specifically, this is about a new york law and it requires people seeking a license to show proper cause, meaning they have to detail very specific and special circumstances as to why they should be allowed to carry a gun into public places for
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self-defense. well, the lawyer for the two men fighting this law, he says it infringes on the second amendment, since the right to carry guns should be broad and people seeking a license shouldn't have to prove special circumstances. new york officials on the other side, they say history is filled with instances of government officials restricting guns in public spaces, but one person that was interesting to listen to was conservative justice brett kavanaugh, he in particular pushed back on restrictions like this, seeming that they violate the second amendment rights. take a listen. >> why isn't it good enough to say i live in a violent area and i want to be able to defend myself? with any constitutional right, if it's the discretion of an individual officer, that seems inconsistent with an objective constitutional right. >> based on the arguments today, what we heard, it does appear the conservative majority court is inclined to strike down this new york law.
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that would inherently expand the scope of the second amendment for the first time in more than a decade since victor, it was in 2008, when the court held individuals had the right to keep guns inside their home for self-defense, this case would then widen the decision to include the right to bring guns into public places in many respects. victor. >> jessica schneider on that case for us. thank you so much. let's bring in parkland shooting survivor, david hogg, cofounder of march for our lives, and he was at the supreme court today protesting for stricter gun control. david, good to have you. i want to start here with the context and the impact as you see it, and then go into the specifics. if the justices, we know it was a 6-3 conservative court strike down this new york law, what do you expect the implications will be? >> well, i think the implications will be broad, and have an effect on an entire generation. the people that recently wrote in our brief for the supreme
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court case on our judicial advocacy team with march for our lives, when d.c. versus helder was deciding i was in first gr grade. we know how long these decision haves a long lasting effect. if they don't side with the american people's right not to be shot, we're going to continue to see this epidemic of gun violence continue to grow within this country and more shootings in our schools and communities to happen on a daily basis, unfortunately. >> the other side of that argument, you say the right not to be shot. for these petitioner, it's the right, they believe to protect themselves, one of them, or both of them have passed background checks. one took a training course, was denied concealed carry license. the other said a string of robberies in his neighborhood forced him to want to carry a weapon. he was denied. personal safety extends beyond the home there, so what do you make of justice kavanaugh's
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argument, why is it i live in a violent area good enough, enough of a reason to get a permit? >> well, i mean, the fact of the matter is if we continue allowing, you know, our unregulated militia to continue growing out there again and again, and we see what was previously 40,000 people dying annually, now 45,000, do we want to live in a society where everybody has to be armed because we have an unregulated system, unregulated militia or simply because anyone who wants to have a gun, they can. the shooter at my high school was able to legally obtain his ar-15 despite repeatedly threatening my high school and having, you know, just being a 19-year-old, he was able to go out and legally buy that. we see how bad this is. americans need to realize, this is a choice our country makes. we do not need to be a society people need to be armed everywhere they go because they
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wroir worry about an instance of violence happening. it's not because those countries have more guns than people. it's because those countries have sensible regulations that allow people to practice at times, you know, in the case of switzerland, you know, their gun culture. at the same time, they don't see school shootings, and instances of gun violence happening on a daily basis. we can't have these systems in place, but we need to have the well regulated militia. stories like many and several young people, so we're the last generation to have to deal with this issue, because we can be. >> david hogg, good to have your insight, thank you. >> yeah, thank you. this is cnn breaking news. it's a brand new hour, i'm victor blackwell, it's good to be with you. president biden back at the white house from an overseas trip. he now has to confront some serious warnings from election day results.


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