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>> swanson! the world champions! >> they shutout the astros to take the world series in six games. this is the braves first series title since 1995. very exciting. cnn's coverage continues right now. very good wednesday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. overnight, a major shift in the political landscape. in key elections across the nation, liberal agenda items soundly rejected. it was a huge night for republicans, to quote our colleague van jones, a five alarm fire for democrats. this morning, cnn can project that republican glenn youngkin is the governor-elect of virginia, defeating terry mcauliffe in a state that president joe biden won by ten points, and proving to gop voters who may still oppose
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donald trump still support conservative politics. >> it is not just in virginia, the race for governor in new jersey remains neck and neck. a virtual tie at this point between the incumbent democrat governor phil murphy and challenger jack ciattarelli. that race less than 2,000 votes apart. another shock for democrats who saw murphy coasting to another term in office. the biggest winners of the night on issues, policing, education, and the economy. in new york, cnn projects that eric adams will be the next mayor. the former brooklyn borough president and former retired police captain ran on a pro police platform, promising to crack down on crime as well as police abuse. >> in minneapolis, the site of major anti-police demonstrations and protests last year, voters rejected an aggressive bid to overhaul policing in that city. they voted down a ballot measure that would have abolished the minneapolis police department to replace it with the department of public safety. let's begin our coverage this
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morning in new jersey, where democratic governor phil murphy is fighting to stay in office this morning. cnn national correspondent jason carroll joining us from fort lee this morning. the race is closer than a lot of people expected. what are new jersey voters saying as they're waking up this morning to learn this race is, you know, still neck and neck at this point. >> reporter: i think, erica, we're hearing from voters with these most recent numbers that we're seeing. we're now seeing that murphy is slightly ahead but still even though he's slightly ahead now, certainly some good news for those people out here who support the governor, but if you look at the lay of the land, especially where we are in bergen county, he still is underperforming. you look at what he did last time he was running for governor versus this time, last time he won bergen county by 15 points. this time around he's ahead by four points with 86% reporting. of course, what is the difference here? it is jack ciattarelli. and the issues that he ran on. when you look at what he did,
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really went after murphy on issues such as property taxes, mask mandates, things like critical race theory. on the flip side of that, you got murphy who basically ran on his record and his progressive accomplishments, raising the minimum wage, raising in terms of expanding paid family leave, and doing all that he can to tie ciattarelli to trump. both candidates basically saying at this point we have to wait because the race is so close, have to wait for every single vote to be counted. >> when every vote is counted, and every vote will be counted, we hope to have a celebration. >> i wanted to commend you tonight and tell you that we have won. i'm here, but i'm here to tell you that we're winning. >> again, the murphy team feeling as though once every vote is indeed counted, he will end up being governor once again. if he's able to do that, he will
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be the first democratic governor real re-elected since 1977. guys, back to you. >> that would be quite a moment. jason carroll, thank you very much. there are still many votes as we noted outstanding in new jersey. they are mostly and this is telling, it seems from largely democratic areas. so let's check in with john berman at the magic wall on where the votes are still to be counted, and where those areas generally lean. john. what are you seeing? >> let's look at where we are now. you can see it is just 1600 votes that separates the two candidates, but the key thing is just 85% reporting at this time. so, where are the votes still to be counted? largely we think from democratic areas. let's take this down to find the counties that have -- hang on -- this is where it gets stuck here, take it down to 85% or less. all right, let's do 86% or less that's helpful.
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look at the counties with 86% or less of the vote in now, largely blue counties. look at this. hudson county, new jersey, that's where jersey city is, that is 80% reporting, but you can see phil murphy is at 73% there. so he has a big edge in that county, that still has to get a lot of that vote counted. other counties to look at here, also with the democratic edge, essex county, home to newark, a big urban area, the biggest urban area in the state, just 72% reporting. you see here phil murphy has 72.9% of the vote. and other democratic county, you know, philadelphia, the surrounding areas of philadelphia, camden, this is an area where phil murphy is at 60%. just 78%, so a lot more potential democratic votes. if you want to know the republican counties that still have some votes to count, somerset, not tiny, a lot of votes there, jack ciattarelli, small edge there, 82% in. in the south, cumberland county, not many votes there, ciattarelli there.
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if you get a sense of what could happen as the votes keep coming in as the-- i'm sorry, the wal being mean to me, phil murphy at 73%. jack ciattarelli at 25%. we just got a batch of counted votes there. and that vote count was about 6,000 new votes counted there. of the 6,000, phil murphy got 3,889. ciattarelli, 2,157. that is about 63% of the vote. and about 35% of the vote. so you can see as these new numbers come in, from these largely democratic counties, phil murphy should be able to stretch his lead out, which is why the democrats feel better about where things are at this moment. but obviously they still have to count the votes as quickly as
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they k can. jim, erica. >> john berman, nice work at the wall, my friend. thank you. as we continue to watch for that, there is a real focus on virginia this morning, a major defeat for democrats. and frankly some call it a warning sign, some call it a wake-up call. plenty of people are saying you should have been paying attention. cnn projecting republican glenn youngkin will be the next governor in virginia, beating democrat terry mcauliffe by a little moren t than 2%. >> this was an easy win for biden in the 2020 election. let's go to sunlen serfaty, following the results of the election from arlington, virginia. terry mcauliffe has not conceded yet, but the numbers seem to be clear here. do we know when he'll make that call? >> reporter: well, jim, mcauliffe officials tell cnn overnight there is no urgency to do so, but certainly the expectation is that is going to have to be the next step here. and democrats this morning are definitely waking up to this gut
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punch blow in the governor's race. mcauliffe officials admitting that they just underestimated glenn youngkin in the end and the race for them just shifted in the end. glenn youngkin was able to tap into a series of state and local issues, most notably education. that did resonate among voters last night in exit polls. that's something that the governor-elect gave a nod to in his victory rally last night. >> on day one, we're going to work! we're going to restore excellence in our schools! we're going to start with charter schools and make a down payment and close the gap on giving parents an opportunity to select where their kids go to school. friends, we're going to embrace our parents, not ignore them. >> reporter: and democrats here will certainly have a lot to parse through from last night's results. but certainly notable here is
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that the exit polls show that 43%, only 43% of virginians approve of the job that president biden was doing, so certainly his first year in the presidency affecting the outcome tonight and certainly could going forward in the midterms as well as the strategy that terry mcauliffe just zeroed in on throughout his campaign of trying to tie youngkin to former president donald trump. that clearly did not work here either. so democrats likely going to have to reassess that strategy. jim? >> yeah. a lot of monday morning quarterbacking happening this morning, i'm sure. sunlen serfaty, thank you. joining us to discuss, larry sabado at the university of virginia. larry, always good to have you with us. and especially when so much is happening in your own backyard as we're seeing with this race in virginia. these cries of a wake-up call this morning, this really noeed to be a wake-up call for democrats, do you agree with that or maybe more democrats should have been paying
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attention? >> well, it is really both. this wasn't a five alarm fire for democrats, nothing will be. this was, of course, local in the sense that you have local issues that make a difference and stir the party base on both sides. particularly republicans. but the national dimension is impossible to ignore. the fact is that president biden, with a 54% win last year manages to get below 45 and approval and as a result and a result also of the inaction of the house and the senate democrats on the two big proposals that president biden has on the table, democrats weren't excited. i saw that in going through all the votes. the republican turnouts were unbelievable, particularly in rural counties. it wasn't just the absolute number. a lot of them were small counties without a lot of votes. but when you add them together, and the republican nominees were
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getting -- listen to this, 85% of the vote. 85%. that doesn't happen very often. a major party candidate getting 10, 12, 14% of the vote in mcauliffe's case, it tells you the republican base was completely activated and democrats, especially in many black areas, and also i have to say the youth vote, here in my backyard, they didn't turn out. so when you have that combination, this kind of result is inevitable. >> it strikes me that parties often tend to overlearn the positive lessons from elections like that, maybe underlearn the negative. i wonder if we turn to the republican party here, the thing about youngkin was that he did not run as a trump. he put some deliberately -- very deliberately put some distance between him and trump. is there a lesson for republicans as well that their path to victory, not just in
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2022, but 2024 is not necessarily through the former president? >> i think that's very obvious from the virginia case. now, trump tried to get -- no picture -- there is no video of them together. i think that was on purpose. don't you? trump got -- trump was slaughtered here by over ten points last year. and new jersey as well, 16 points. biden won by 16 points there. and you got a tie. so, you know, there is a real lesson for national democrats here on a lot of different levels and while a lot can change in a year, they better focus real fast. >> one of the other things, right, we talked a lot about had it came to youngkin, his real
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focus on specific issues, kitchen table bread and butter issues, the economy, the grocery tax, gas prices and specifically education really picking up on this gap from mcauliffe he was not able to recover from. let's look at the numbers in terms of just how important education was to voters. and it really sets the scene there, for both voters, but you look at how important education was. how much say should parents have in what schools teach? those voting for mcauliffe, nearly three-quarters. that's a lesson for democrats, is it not? >> absolutely. i think a fundamental error that the mcauliffe campaign made was that they -- the gap was the fundamental error. but they never really engaged on the parental influence in the schools issue. they never really engaged with the republican claims about
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critical race theory, which isn't taught in virginia, of course. but you have to engage. you have to present your side of the argument, you can't just walk away from it and try to focus on, say, donald trump. and that's a lesson for democrats going forward in the 2022. look at what the other side is saying, and refute it if you can. >> let's see if they learn those lessons. got that time, but not a lot of time. larry sabato, good to have you on. still ahead this hour, minneapolis rejected a ballot initiative to restructure the city's police department. and the mayoral race there still has not been called. we'll take you there live, see what that indicates. the incumbent mayor of buffalo, new york, may have pulled off a successful write-in campaign after losing the primary to a democratic socialist. look at all of the big wins last night. . and today is the day many
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this is a very big moment in the depandemic. kids are getting their first doses of pfizer's vaccine. the cdc authorized those doses just yesterday for the youngest age group yet. this makes 28 million children now eligible for covid vaccine. dr. anthony fauci says this will lessen the risk of getting the virus and this is key, not just
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for kids, but for everyone. >> i think it is going to make the issue of schools much easier, much safer as we get more and more children. before we would surround the children with vaccinated people. like adults, like teachers, like school personnel. now if you have the children, in addition to the personnel, that diminishes the risk considerably. >> millions of pediatric vaccine doses are already arriving at thousands of locations across the country. joining us now cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and cnn international correspondent brynn gringras. the cdc director saying this moment should really be a cause for celebration for parents. >> absolutely. parents of children ages 5 to 11, erica, they have not been able to rest easy during this pandemic because their children were not as protected as they could be. so they were worried about their
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children getting covid as well as worrying could their children spread it to vulnerable people, like grandparents, like relatives and friends who were immune compromised. let's take a look at this white house rollout and where the vaccines are going to be. i think we all remember the adult rollout back in december/january was, well, a bit rocky. this one looks like has all the signs of being much, much smoother. the rollout will be in pediatricians' offices. that's key. pediatricians are great at giving vaccines. they're used to ordering them, giving them. pharmacies, children's hospitals, schools and other lo locations. dr. rochelle walensky talked yesterday about address the question that parents have, which is, you know, covid doesn't affect children typically as severely as it affects adults. why should i give a vaccine to my child? the answer really is that covid can affect children quite terribly. thousands and thousands of children have gotten very, very
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sick with covid. been hospitalized, many of them were perfectly healthy to begin with, why would you want to roll the dice with your child? let's listen to dr. walensky. >> the chance that a child will have severe covid, require hospitalization or develop a long-term complication remains low. but still, the risk is too high and too devastating to our children and far higher than for many other diseases for which we vaccinate children. >> now, polling has shown that some parents are hesitant about getting this vaccine for their children. hopefully in the coming weeks as they see other children get it, they see how well they're doing, hopefully some of that hesitation will go away. jim, erica? >> well, if getting an appointment is a sign of interest, clearly some demand. brynn, you're at an urgent care facility in new york. are you seeing big lines there?
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what are parents saying? >> reporter: there is a steady flow of kids coming into the doctor's office. they received 600 doses of the vaccine for thchildren, on thei doorstep this morning. they plan to go to schools later on and distribute the vaccine for children and parents who want it there. i want to show you and introduce you to zia and kathy. zia is ready to get the vaccine and she is excited. she has some plans. we'll talk about that in a minute. catherine, i want to talk to you while zia is getting the vaccine. you were saying your husband is a pilot. this is a stress you felt for quite a while. >> it is. we were out in arizona, his job has taken us out there, so we lived out there for a while and, you know, things are very different than they are here in the city. that's what brought us back to new york was, you know, the mask mandates and the safety in the schools, everyone taking vaccination so seriously.
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so this is just thrilling. >> thrilling. she's done. >> all done! >> you did great. you're such a trooper. tell me, got the vaccine, what is the first thing you're going to do? you're so excited. >> i want to go to broadway. >> you want to go to broadway and watch hamilton, because you know all the music. that's awesome. i bet they'll sob excited to welcome you to that play. you did such a good job. >> hello to everyone. >> i got to tell you, there are a lot of children here who are very excited. i know there is a stress that is taken off parents. for kids too. i talked to kids who said they can't wait to take off their mask when they go to the playground, can't wait to have a play date with their friends. there is some feeling of just finally feeling liberated from this pandemic and that comes today for these young kids. guys? >> i love the way zia looked tas as it was happening. nothing to be afraid of with that needle. >> i think, erica, i cried more
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tears at my shot than that sweet little 10-year-old. >> well, we'll all take some lessons from her. >> i'll let her know, jim. >> brynn and elizabeth, thank you both. and just a reminder, really excited to let you know that cnn is teaming up with our friends from sesame street once again. dr. sanjay gupta and i hosting our sixth town hall for families. we're here to answer your questions, so send them in. don't miss the abcs of covid vaccines, this saturday morning at 8:30, only on cnn. if you would like to submit a question, i just tweeted out that link for you. you can find it at erica r. hill. >> that will be great. voters in minneapolis deciding on the future of that city's police force in the wake of george floyd's murder. big moments there. we're going to take you live next. and futures mixed now after all three major averages closed at record highs yet again on tuesday with the dow closing
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my bad. >> all good. we have breaking news. we'll both bring it to you. breaking news of the new jersey gubernatorial race. how about we hand it over to john berman for this one? >> do you guys want to work this out? >> we're going to take a beat here. >> definitely my fault. >> phil murphy, the democratic incumbent in new jersey has now stretched his lead to 5,700 votes. this is happening as more votes are being counted in the state. you want to ask where these votes came from this time? this county right there, which is somerset county, new york. i want to take a look at somerset. what is interesting here, this county, you'll remember, from not 15 minutes ago, was actually red. jack ciattarelli was leading there. a new number of votes counted there has put phil murphy on top. and let me show you how much he netted there. he netted 2,829 votes in this county. which gave him the lead in that
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county. and which stretched his overall state wide lead to 5,000 votes. this matters as i said because as you look around the states, you look around the state, the counties that have remaining votes, let's look at 75% or more, you can see, they're blue counties. so, phil murphy thinks as votes continue to be counted, his lead will grow even more. phil, erica? >> phil? jim. >> thank you for taking the heat off me, jack berman. i appreciate the look at the magic wall. >> good thing nobody was up late last night for elections. >> exactly. >> berman, thanks. speaking of, let's keep you posted on what else we're seeing in the results from overnight. voters in minneapolis rejecting an effort there to overhaul policing. this is by massive protesting calls for reform in the wake of george floyd's murder last year. the ballot measure would have replaced the minneapolis police department with a department of public safety run by the city council. >> as it stands that is no small
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margin there. but concerns about gun violence in the city seem to have drained energy from the push for a change in the role for police there. cnn's omar jimenez joins us now live from minneapolis. omar, you've been there from the beginning, going back to those difficult moments after george floyd's murder. tell us what this means for the future of policing in that city. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, look, i'll tell you one thing, this isn't going to be the end of attempts to try and reform the minneapolis police department. people on both sides of this debate, the yes and no of the ballot question, all believes that whatever was happening right now wasn't working the best -- or as well as it should be. so, again, just because this ballot measure failed, i have a feeling we're going to see further pushes in the future. and to remind as you mentioned this was a ballot measure that would have replaced the police department with a wider encompassing public safety department. it was never going to get rid of
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police officers in a single vote. one thing i heard consistently from those who plan to vote no in recent days, they didn't believe the ballot language was specific enough about what this public safety department would do and what it would become for the city of minneapolis. now, those that wanted people to vote yes, we are hearing from some of them this morning, one group in particular that was part of the yes for minneapolis coalition that got the more than 20,000 signatures to get it on the ballot released a statement this morning reading in part these election results do not change the fact that the system we have is not keeping us safe. police do not keep us safe and we won't let fear and scarcity divide us or stop us from creating the future we all deserve to dress the challenges facing our city and create real safety for all of minneapolis we need innovative solutions and public investment to make them successful. now, in the end, the ballot language fails, but we also have seen some city council members who were part of previous ballot
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pushes in similar public safety regards not get back into office. lisa benner was among the first to push for calls of a public safety department. she didn't run. another council member philippe cunningham was among those who spearheaded a similar ballot initiative last year and doesn't appear he will get re-elected as well. so we're seeing some of the policy side of things play out about a year and a half after the murder of george floyd in minneapolis. >> you just delineated a lot of messages that voters sent on that initiative and that push. omar jimenez, thank you very much. let's turn to the major mayoral races in the state of new york. eric adams will be new york city's second black mayor, a moderate as well, easily defeated his republican challenger curtis sliwa. >> and in buffalo, the state's second largest city, the incumbent mayor byron brown is declaring victory. he had to mount a write-in campaign after losing the primary to democratic socialist
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india walton. let's get to miguel marquez. miguel, the write-in votes have a clear lead. but there is still not a winner being called in buffalo at this point. >> this is a shock and a shock back. india walton, who is self-professed democratic socialist, has 41% of the vote. write-ins, who is on the write-in ballots, has 59%. the former mayor byron brown has declared victory. but it is going to be some days before those ballots are counted. this is a shocker all around. he was a very long-term mayor of buffalo. lost in a shocker in the primary to india walton, the democratic socialist. and then has come back possibly to win this thing in the most old school shocking way of all, in a write-in. but whether it is new york or seattle, cleveland, pittsburgh, durham, all of these cities
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seeing people of color, new faces in politics, young people elected, all democrats, but not necessarily progressives. even in boston, where michelle wu was elected, and identifies as more of a progressive, didn't run on those hot button issues like defund the police, was talking more about making boston a much more livable city for the people who live there. interesting night for on the left and what it says about the moderates and the progressives in the u.s. right now. >> absolutely. miguel, thank you. still to come, moderate senator joe manchin says he thinks a deal on president biden's spending package can be reached by, wait for it, thanksgiving. but, yes, there's a but, he says there is some issues that need to be fixed before he can sign off. more on that next.
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president biden says he's confident he'll be able to get moderate senator joe manchin on board with his sweeping social safety net package. the west virginia democrat, huh however, says he has concerns that need to be addressed to secure his vote on that $1.75 trillion bill. joining me now, melanie zanona. you know, melanie, feels like we have been here before. senator manchin expressing new optimism that a deal could ultimately be reached. but he has some very specific asks. >> reporter: yeah, quite a few concerns until manchin is ready to sign off on the social safety net package. first one is climate change. manchin represents a heavy coal
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state. and he was the reason why their initial climate provisions were jetsoned from the initial package. the other issue he has is the taxes and the way this is being paid for. they changed how it was going to be paid for because of concerns from another moderate holdout, kyrsten sinema of arizona. he also has concerns over the continued push to expand medicare. that has been a huge point of contention, that is something bernie sanders, a progressive, is still pushing for and manchin held firm thus far. finally, he also has concerns about the potential emerging immigration language, still being worked out. so quite a few issues still for manchin here. but he also said he's open to the idea of this being wrapped up by thanksgiving. which, of course, is still an aggressive timeline, but does signal he's willing to play ball. so a lot of work to be done, but a lot of optimism here on capitol hill. >> yet another deadline too. just thrown out there. melanie, speaking of senator sinema, who you just mentioned, i know you're also learning, we're all learning more about
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house speaker nancy pelosi who negotiated directly with senator sinema when it came to this prescription drug pricing deal. what more do we know about those negotiations and where do we stand this morning? >> reporter: to be a fly on the wall during that negotiation, right? you don't often see the speaker of the house negotiating directly with a senator. but in this case, there was a lot of concern and frustration on the house side among democrats that sinema and manchin were both out of the control of the speaker. and when it comes to prescription drug prices, this was an issue massively important to moderates and front line members who are in vulnerable swing districts. a lot of them ran on lowering prescription drug prices. speaker nancy pelosi rolled up her sleeves, got to work and was instrumental in the negotiations. they came up with a compromise. there are going to be the ability for medicare to negotiate some drug prices with certain drugs for certain companies. it is not everything that moderates and progressives
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wanted. but so far we're seeing that sinema signed off and it is probably going to make it into the final package. >> melanie zanona, thank you. we'll be watching the hill for those developments. in just moments, another story we're watching, the supreme court taking up yet another topic that bitterly divides the nation, gun rights. what this ruling could mean for the second amendment and for you and your community next. and if you don't, there are other options! umpire: ball! good eye! good eye! eyes are good for lots of things. like reading! be the best, caleb! statistically impossible, caleb. umpire: strike three, you're out! you'll get 'em next time! or you won't, probably won't. and it won't impact your future whatsoever! talk to us about college planning today. feel comfortable about tomorrow. massmutual. you're a one-man stitchwork master. but your staffing plan needs to go up a size. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates
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youngkin and said, quote, i hope virginians will join me in wishing the best to him and his family. thanking his supporters as well and said that when he did serve as the 72nd governor, it was the highest honor of my life. , well, minutes from now the supreme court will hear all arguments in a case that could lead tore more guns carried on some of the nation's busiest streets. the justice will decide if they will get a licensed carry concealed handguns passes legal muster. i am joined by jeffrey toobin. this is a case that i have been watching closely. it gets to an issue here whether laws in some states allowing people to carry in public could apply in other states, even if those other states oppose such laws. explain to us how this could transform the second amendment
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rights nation wide and where the court might be leaning on this. >> well, jim, you know in 28, the supreme court in the famous decision decided that there was a second amendment right to own a handgun within your home. but in the subsequent years, it's now a long time. they have not really addressed how broadly to concede to individuals really goes. this case is the first time now with three new term justices, the court will explore how broad the second amendment right is. the position of the gun rights supporters, the challengers to this law is that the second amendment is like the first amendment. you can't regulate the free speech in this country. so you can't regulate gun ownership. and the implications of that are really enormous. because when you think about gun regulation in this country, the size of guns, hour, where you can carry them, whether you can
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carry them in public or conceal. whether felons or domestic abusers can carry guns him all of those laws implicate the second amendment e amendment and this court may now decide that the government can't regulate guns as much as they have in the past. >> with enormous effect. by the way, against where a majority of the country is on a lot of these regulations. okay. we know where democrats stand on these things according to "new york times", there is a group of conservative lawyers and former government officials in republican administrations filing a brief arguing, i am quoting here, the original understanding of the second amendment was that there is not an absolute unfettered right to carry loaded guns in public. so that's an interesting voice. does that carry weight with the court? >> well, those are very distinguished lawyers, but i think you need to -- we all need to recognize that this is donald trump's supreme court and donald trump's republican party.
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yes, there are a few outliers there, but you know one of the things trump talked about all the time when he was president and even now was second amendment rights. brett cakavanaugh, neil gore su, have been outspoken about the breath of second amendment rights. yes, those are distinguished laws, and they carry some weight. but, frankly, i don't think they are particularly persuasive to where the court is now, where the supreme court majority is now. i don't want to predict the outcome of this case, but i also don't want to overstate how important some legal never trumpers are. i don't think they're that important. >> it has enormous effects potentially going forward, probably will make it difficult to pass any sort of gun control legislation. all right. another case, our colleague noel points out on her piece on
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cnn.com the highest courts twoest highest justices, cavanaugh and barrett could replay the map for the second amendment in courts in these kind of cases. tell us why their votes are so pivotal here. >> because ruth ginsberg and anthony kennedy, particularly ginsberg, of course, was very clear. she was a dissenter in the heller case in 2008. she didn't think the second amendment gives individuals any rights that she thought it applied only to militias, which had been the position of the supreme court for decades. the replacement of barrett for ginsberg is enormously important in the second amendment area as it is in so many. because she at least as far as we know believes in expansive individual rights for gun holders. and for individuals and the right to bear guns and you know what is so important about this
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is as you point out, if the supreme court rules in favor of the plaintiffs here this could redraw the gun laws in all 50 states because the supreme court's decision about the constitution apply everywhere. and that's why this case is such a big deal, even though it only applies to one specific law in new york state. >> yeah, listen. you hear all this talk about state rights, often from conservatives. this is a case where they don't have the right to regulate weapons when there are a large support there. always good to have you break it down. still ahead, a nail-biter of a race for governor of new jersey. incumbent democrat phil murphy stretching his lead a bit in the last hour or so. his ballots are being counted. we will take you to garden state live next. >>
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, good wednesday morning. top of the hour here, i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim scuitto. a big night for republicans, to quote our colleague van jones, a five alarm fire for democrats. this morning, a major potential shift in the landscape. republicans pulled out victories in states democrats saw as a litmus test for upcoming mid-terms, frankly, they had no trouble winning in new jersey. a jock for incumbent democrat governor phil murphy, while the votes coming in may be turning in his favor, neck and neck, it has been all night, it has been all morning, right now, murri

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