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democrats miss another d deadline, but is the party finally ready to unite around biden's massive economic plan. >> it's quite a spectacular vision president biden has put forth. >> we're making transformative investments that will change people's lives. i can't wait to get it done. >> the latest on the president's foreign trip with the focus on vaccine, and climate.
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>> we're letting the world pass us by. two days to go, republicans are eyeing an upset in the governor's race. >> this is the future of our country. everyone is looking at virginia. "inside politics," the stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics" sunday. i'm in for abby phillip. a busy day for president biden in rome. final day at the g20 summit. he met with president erdogan between rising tensions between istanbul. he will meet with them at 2:30 p.m. eastern. the agenda was dominated by issuing the vaccine to foreign countries, restarting the eye tan nuclear tax. and there's also minimum for a new global tax. complaint collins is now live
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from rome. what does the white house see as the biggest success so far. >> i think, manu, when it comes to concrete examples they would point to the global minimum tax. that is something they're incredibly focused often as biden took office and having 80% to 90% of the world's gdp at this office, at this summit of world leaders, agreed to pursue that. it's something they would say is incredibly significant and it does set an example they believe going forward to present this race to the bottom amorning corporations to find tax havens to operate out of it. they would point to that. we also got news overnight the use struck an agreement on steel and aluminum tariffs that were put in place by former president trump, and caused quite a lot of tension between the two, the european union and united states. and that is progress the white house would point to. i think when you step back and look at the bigger picture, this is the first g20 summit that
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happened in two years, since the covid-19 pandemic. for the president on the world stage, he's attempting to reassure him of that message he brought to the g7 summit is that america was back and they are committed to these alliances and shifted in the last four, five months when it came to alloys from the u.s.-led exit from afghanistan, and you saw the president smoothing over the tensions with the french leader as well. now he's prepared to head to the climate summit after he wraps up his meetings here today. that's what you heard from scientists and global experts, this is the time to get concrete commitments from some of the world's biggest leaders to commit to that, to make changes when it comes to this climate change, otherwise, they're going to risk catastrophe. >> yes, big questions, a lot of details we expect any hour. thank you for joining us. now joining bus their reporting and insight, juicy pace of the associated press, jonathan martin of "the new york
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times," politico ace rachel bail and "the wall street journal's" sabrina sa beaky. give me your take so far on the summit. the president touting the victory in rome on the 15% global tax, some focused on policy rather than personality conflicts. >> and i think that's where president biden would like to be, he doesn't want this to be a relationship between the u.s. and allies focused on personalities but make progress on key issues, like for the eu rolling back the tensions there. as we head into the g20 alliance summit, i think there, very low expectations countries will come out of kopp with anything really significant. perhaps individual commitments from several countries but moving forward and tackling this challenge, i think the reality is we're just not in place where that will happen and that really
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buts up against the science and buts up against how we deal with this existential crisis. >> that will be one of the big questions that comes out of this. jonathan, biden, a lot changed since june the last time he met with the g7. just look at his relationship with the rest of the world and thing that's occurred since then. chaos in afghanistan, we saw the "dear evan hansen" surge, supply chain problems across the globe, inflation, this diplomatic fight with france, and overall here in the u.s., biden's approval rating is down. >> different presidency. >> different presidency. >> yeah, really is. you see that across the board and obviously those issues trail him abroad as well. part of this mission is doing some cleanup too. and in very joe biden fashion, he says things very bluntly, admitted for the cameras that they had blundered their
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relationship with the french and biden seeming to throw his own staff under the bus in the process, was a nice touch by the president for the press. but, look, he ran and i think conveyed to the american people that he would restore relationships around the world. the former president obviously sort of created challenges, and it's harder in practice. because you have to sometimes pick among your friends. it doesn't matter if you're joe biden, former chairman of the foreign relations committee, you still have to pick among friends and that leaves bitter feelings. >> did they repair any relationships or is the jury still out on that? >> i think this trip from the white house has been folk oesed on global key issues, climate change, covid-19, national security. there are talks about potentially restarting the iran nuclear accord. and a lot of the focus, of course, had been on the u.s.'
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chaotic exit from afghanistan, as you to pointed out. of course, that diplomatic -- the diplomatic dispute between france and the united states. but for biden the challenge is reasserting american credibility and what he really ran on, the u.s. is once again going to assert itself on the global stage. coming out with a couple of wins, whether it's easing the aluminum tariffs, great tension with the eu, and the corporate tax rate that could generate about $6 billion in the u.s. alone and some commitment around climate. the president is expected to tout more than $500 billion in spending in his framework, and that is not yet law but significant commitment on the tart of the u.s. i think they will consider it more of a success because there's not as much focus overseas and domestic battle unfolding over here. as long as he comes back with a few commitments on the global stage, he will consider it to be a successful trip. >> he's trying to tie foreign policy to domestic policy. you heard him making that
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argument on capitol hill saying we need to pass something, his agenda, to show democracy works, the argument that he's been making other members of the democratic leadership, does that actually resonate among the members here? >> on the world stage? >> here in washington. >> here in washington, no, i think for nancy pelosi it certainly does. one of the things she said to her caucus on thursday is we cannot embarrass the president. as he's going abroad, we need to give him a win and boost him on the international stage. as you mentioned, he wants to stand up in the next couple of days on his climate summit and say, look, the united states is reasserting itself toing tackl global warming after four years of doing nothing up the trump administration, and in order to do that, he wants to win. it doesn't make a difference if he peaced the bill or not passed the bill, a lot of us in d.c. think the bill will be passed but the question is when. so the fact whether he can go
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and show up with $500 billion -- i'm going to be funneling $500 billion of tax credits into the energy sector, trying move to clean energy, that's something. but for lawmakers on capitol hill, they wanted to get it done before then. sausage making is messy and this stuff takes time. >> listen to what the former nato secretary-general said in "the washington post" friday. after four years with trump, the world is very, very curious whether this is a lasting new direction to american politics or a risk of return to trumpism in 2024. it would be an uphill effort for biden to convince his allies and partners he has changed american attitudes profoundly. >> this is the reaction i think biden is facing in the rest of the world. coming out of the 2020 election, there was a huge sigh of relief it would be joe biden serving as president for four years opposed to donald trump. but very few american allies are convinced biden represents a significant, long-lasting shift.
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there's an open question about whether he's essentially a place holder or whether he is actually going to signal that trump is in the past. and if you look at where we are in the u.s., i don't think anybody would argue trump is in the past or trumpism is in the past. i don't think joe biden feels that way. i don't think he can make a convincing argument to that effect when he's having these meetings. >> absolutely. i think the former nato chief is spot on in his assessment that there are questions as to whether or not we moved not just from trumpism but deep polarization and tribalism that is the defining element of american politics today. you don't have to be a poly sci major, even a professor, to realize that's what's happening here in our times and that's what is shaping elections and politics generally. >> we will see how the president deals with it. still more to come. he will speak today. the cameras will see what he has to say when he gets questions from reports. next, it hasn't been pretty but democrats may be on track to
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climate. and we won significant increases on health care. so, look, this should be a time for us to talk about how great that is. >> how progressives are meeting today to discuss virtually their strategy, but they have been demanding that joe manchin and k kyrsten sinema sign off on this larger deal, commitments if it passes the house, it passes the senate. before he this agree to support the infrastructure bill. how do you see this playing out, do you think they simply will take a leap of faith and hope joe manchin and sinema will be there at the end of the day? >> i think the fact you have gill abreu paul blessing this deal when she wanted a $6 trillion deal a few months ago is significant. there were questions about sequencing. they weren't able to get the bipartisan support this week because they want commitments from modern center democrats. but the fact you have two senate
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democrats who are willing to support this framework and progressives out there saying they support the framework and not balking to get additional provisions in this is a very important thing. and senator bernie sanders was saying this morning he wants to to make changes in the flame work. the fact you have progressives in the house prepared to rally is a huge change and very different from last week. this is just a matter of time before they get this done. >> and they will make changes to the bill. they're starting to do that right now. we will see ultimately when they come out with the new version of $1.75 trillion plan and will joe manchin be there. question on biden's performance. he comes to capitol hill a second time, talks to the house democratic caucus. he called on a vote. didn't specify the vote to happen on thursday as nancy pelosi wanted. she ultimately had to punt because progressives said joe biden didn't ask for us to vote.
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this is one how one more moderate democrat said to me thursday night, dean phillips, i'm not afraid to say i wish he was more explicit. if the president led us down the hallway on the first floor, i think it would have been close. i think with republican votes, it would have passed. are they doing enough to get this done? >> there are some democrats who feel like president biden could be doing more. just some context prior to him going to capitol hill, congressman pramila did convey to the white house that the president shouldn't convey to progressives to hold the vote and he did express concerns if she did, he could head to europe with a failed vote on his hands, which would be more embarrassing to him. so i think this is a really delicate balancing act. they would have liked to see a vote at least on infrastructure but he's navigating, neating the demands of senators manch and sinema, while also keeping the
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progressive caucus in line. i think putting out the framework ahead of the trip was a way of signaling we've got to wrap this up. here's a framework hopefully everyone can agree to. and i think it's significant the progressive caucus came out and endorsed it even though it did not include things like prepaid family leave, and the number is lower that progressives wanted and progressives are suggesting they will get by via sinema and manchin. but if they don't, you will see the president continue the conversations and maybe even make another visit to the hill. >> if this becomes law and is significant, it could have real impact. the problem the democrats have is they're running now. they're running in virginia now. they're dealing with the midterms next year. it's going to take a long time for these policies to be implemented. look at the way obama care took forever to get done. it got done march 2010. it's more popular now. it wasn't popular then. are they going to see any political benefit from this comes next year?
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>> i think that depends where the economy is, country is next year. the parallels from '09 and '10 are eerie though. president biden did not sell the stimulus then, i think, to the red of many democrats, very aggressively and while the health care act was very sweeping and popular, in the end was not seen as something addressing the needs of the american voters. i think today we're having the same conversation in part because this is a process-heavy debate but people in this country are focused on getting past covid and rising prices they are seeing all around them. and right now, julie, they don't see how this agenda connects it that. >> i think that's exactly right. even if next year some of the key provisions in this bill ultimately passes and are not being sold by people, this will actually look at it more favorably if the covid rates are down and economy overall improves. it's the macrolevels that i think will affect it more than
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anything for democrats. but joe biden and democrats do have to get out and now sell the actual elements of the bill. it's been so process heavy and that's because process is how you get things done. if you're an american dipping in and out of this coverage trying to figure out what's going on in washington, i think it would be really hard for you to quickly say yes, i would get x, y and z. >> it's very confusing. and this is what voters actually say, according to an ap poll from october 21 through 25th, about what should be the highest priority in the economic plan -- health care, number one, 64%. education after that at 59%. climate change, childcare and paid leave is at 27%. of course, paid leave, as we know at the moment, is out of the bill. they are lobbying to get manchin to support it. do you guys think the democrats made the right choice about what this punt, what to punt on, to kill family leave from the bill? >> i mean, it's a balanceling act. bernie sanders got a promise from chuck schumer early on
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there would be an expansion for medicare in this bill, coverage for seniors, and that's scrapped right now. they have to deal with -- the numbers that they have, they have 50 senate democrats. they cannot lose a single one. they have two moderates who are not willing to support some of these things. the problem democrats have is they overpromised. they talk about $6 trillion and 3.5 trillion and things people will get for free, well, they can't deliver if they don't have the numbers. so they have to scale it back. >> the irony of the thing is biden's strategy when he came to office is underpromise and over-deliver and they have the reverse going on now. >> you have the messaging issue, they would have focused on individual smaller bills, nancy pelosi is making the argument these are transformational, one of these provisions. whether it's universal pre-k or money for home health care, dealing with disabled be $550 for climate change but they didn't do that, they lumped it all together. and that's been the challenge.
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>> the big thing too is what comes next? the white house said the president is committed to paid family leave. midterms are not looking particular promising for democrats. he could effectively become a lame duck president. they have the narrowest majority. he did signal in the cnn town hall he may be open to a filibuster. so a lot of republicans are looking to see if and when they pass these bills are they going to move forward on paid family bill and tuition and college and other things like police reform and animate democrats going into the midterms. if they fall through on a lot of these commitments they made and campaign promises, there are not a lot of incentives for democrats to go to the polls. it's not just this package of bills, what do they do after, and is this it? >> that's the unspoken part of it, is this it? i think everybody kind of realizes this may be their only bite at the apple and a lot of these issues before we have a midterm that can change hands. >> urg did midterm season, as we
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virginia's governor mansion on tuesday? polls show a tight race between terry mcauliffe and glenn youngkin. they brought in the polls and helped bring in williams to help make the republican pitch. >> the question is do we consider the choice that's under way or get out of the muck from donald trump. my opponent has been endorsed by trump eight times. donald trump and glenn youngkin are trying to bring down this country, and we will not tolerate it. >> youngkin is focusing on the campaign. >> this is not a movement among a campaign, this is a movement by virginia parents! we're going to send a shockwave in this country and there will not be a seat in any american or democrat in this nation that will think his or her seat is
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safe. cnn's jim mckenna is joining us for a talk on this race. how confident are you about thursday? >> very nervous. typically the party that wins the presidency loses the governorships next year. i think there was some rationalization if you will among democrats early in the year, that will not happen because the state is too blue. structurally that cannot happen because now it's a blue state. as we know. governor's races are different nationally. you do have democrats who win in more red states and vice versa sometimes. i'm not terribly surprised the race is competitive. where i think it matters nationally though, first of all, if youngkin does win, what's the immediate fallout on capitol hill? if they do not come to an agreement, manu on those two bills, is there more pressure to pair back the second bill more? is there pressure to go bigger because, well, we're never go to
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pass anything else now so we may as well use this chance? just on a timing generally how does that shape the bill? i think more broadly it will cause democrats to consider, do i want to run for re-election in my career on a loss in a tough midterm election? >> and keeping the majority will be a huge fear come wednesday. you spent a lot of time on the campaign trail talking to voters. look at what they're saying their top priorities are here. you have the shift really from september to october. education 15 in september. look at it now, 24% of voters view that as a top priority, up about 10% here. the economy down by four points here and the pandemic, down from 16% to 10%. and does that match what you're hearing from voters on the campaign trail? >> yes, absolutely. and the mcauliffe campaign will push back and say we've been focusing on education for a while. this is not a new issue for us.
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we've been talking about giving teachers a pay raise, we've been talking about addressing the learning loss because of covid. but it is this parents matter message that glenn youngkin seized on that seems to be resonating with a lot of people. when you go on the campaign trail and you speak to people showing up at his rallies, that is what they are saying. they're animated by this. terry mcauliffe, my understanding, or he will tell you, he does not hate parents. but that is certainly the perception that people have that are showing up to youngkin's rallies. another big issue for them is how race is taught in virginia public schools. the history of racism in america and its impact. they say that is their number one issue. >> and, of course, that comment that mcauliffe made at the debate, i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach, that becoming an issue. that, of course, becoming on the campaign -- >> not an ideal call. >> that did not land though on that night. i was in the press room, and the
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moment of the night was when glenn youngkin was asked about covid vaccine mandates for kids, and if he supported the vaccines for mumps and rubella and measles. well, by the same, wouldn't he support vaccinations for kids when it's available? that was a big moment, but not this. the youngkin campaign smartly, politically, picked up on this and it is what it is now. >> the call is betting on backlash for young, an ad campaign where he saw tony morrison, beloved, banned from her son's school. listen to how terry mcauliffe dealt with this in an ad. >> glenn youngkin supports banning books by toni morrison and other black authors in virginia classrooms. we know what this is, just like donald trump, glenn is trying to silence our voices. >> effective? >> mcauliffe is leaning in to this debate over education and
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schools. he's not trying to run away from it. he sees this as a potential issue that can motivate his base as well. but also it's his way to link youngkin to trump. trump cuts two ways and mcauliffe believes there's enough energy among democrats in terms of trying to keep trump and trump acolytes at bay here. but the question he will face to our earlier conversation, what else can he be running on proactively? this has been his challenge, he's acknowledged this in his final days, he would really like to be out there talking about a specific bill that passed. that's going to be democrats' challenge going into the midterms. they've got to be able to talk about trump and things that are not about trump. >> i want you to listen about what republican pollster frank lund said about the infrastructure bill that terry mcauliffe demanding gets passed, it's not gotten passed. maybe tuesday just as voters are finishing voting on election day. this is what the republican pollsters say.
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>> i don't think democratic passage will have an impact in virginia. i do think attitude towards biden and former president trump matter a great deal. >> what do you think? >> look, if they pass it tuesday, it's going to be too late to make a difference. obviously, people in virginia, we were even hearing from democrats on capitol hill that they wanted this bill to pass a while ago, right. virginia wants it passed as early as last week to have some sort of benefit and churn voters out. it's probably going to be too late. just to go back to terry mcauliffe saying now maybe he wants a more positive message. he's the one who has been bringing up trump over and over again. he's been using the former president's name more than perhaps his own opponent. he's the one who really made this race about trump and that's tough when you have someone like youngkin, who's clearly, they're not the same person, he's talking about being a suburban dad, wearing his zip-up fleece, going to soccer games and just
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has a very different doan than the former president. it will be an interesting test case, the sort of test case he has whether he can get trump's endorsement and sort of keep him at arm's length, can he really win? >> that's the question, do republican voters care at all that youngkin is not fully embracing the former president. he said he will not be part of the telerally tomorrow. do voters care about that? >> no, they're elated they have a real chance in virginia, for the first time in a dozen years to have a republican win statewide. youngkin giving a wink and nod to trumpism through this early conversation about election integrity, that is sort of good enough. the prospect of having a conservative and conservative policies, that is what motivates them. that is what they're energized about. it's not about trump. >> what do you think? >> i think they have largely given him a pass because trump himself has been on his best
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behavior. trump is not glenn youngkin, putting out statements saying why is youngkin giving me the heisman and stiff-arming me and keeping me out of the great commonwealth of virginia? make no mistake, it's a commonwealth. so that has been enormously helpful. also helpful, not being on twitter. you ask any republican strategist privately, they will say one of the bet gifts they had is trump being offer twitter because he doesn't have the presence like he used to, he doesn't jam them like he used to, which is why it's now democrats to try to elevate him. i was joking earlier today, trump is doing a teletown health call monday, i'm sure mcauliffe will try to elevate it much more than youngkin himself is. he's more energetic about trump because it's the best asset the gop has. it's their best turnout lever to this day. they're focusing on it but questions can be raised, what's your agenda? >> and republicans on capitol hill, they're happy trump is not
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stronger hurricanes, bigger wildfires, longer droughts, one third of americans experiencing extreme weather this summer. experts say climate change is here but climate policy hasn't kept up. half of americans say current u.s. policies do not go far enough to combat climate change. president biden is trying to change that. >> over a billion metric tons of emission reductions, at least ten times bigger on climate than any bill that has ever passed before and enough to position us for a 50% to 52% emissions reductions by the year 2030.
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>> joining me now is climate scientist dr. katherine hayhoe. doctor, thank you very much for joining us this morning. democrats, they have set aside $550 billion for climate and clean energy programs in this new social spending bill. but what exactly is this amount of money going towards, and is it enough to cut emissions by 50% like the president wants? >> well, the reality is we have no more time to lose. the crisis of climate and biodiversity laws are here today and as you pointed out in the intro, they're hitting us now. we used to back in the 1980s, have one billion dollar weather and climate disaster every three months across the u.s. now we're getting one about every 2 1/2 weeks. when people say how much is too much to fix the climate crisis, that's the wrong question. the question is, how much are you willing to spend to save the
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economy because that's what's at risk. it's not about saving the planet, it's literally about saving us. and our economy is one of the first things suffering the impact of climate change. is the bill enough? i hope so. but we know things are being negotiated and taken out and put in and there's a real concern this bill may not reach the ambitious targets the world is agreeing now in gloss you go this month. >> and this will be a key focus in discussions and president biden, president biden and cop26 overseas. what might get accomplished there at cop26 and how would you measure its success? >> the nations are going there for two reasons, one is for all of the high emitting countries like the united states to show what they're doing to cut their emissions. but the other reason they're going is something that's called, quote, climate finance. and that's kind of a wonkish term that basically means back in paris in 2013 in the paris
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agreement, all of the countries in the world agreed to put money into a green climate fund to help countries developing without depending on fossil fuels and to help them adapt and prepare for the impacts they can to avoid anymore. and to date the latest analysis i saw said that the united states only contributed 20% of what it promised to the green climate fund. canada, 40%, the only country that's contributed all of that as the latest news i saw was norway. these are the two things that will be discussed. what would be a success in glasgow? a success would be if we came out of it with enough admissions reductions to keep warming below 2 degrees, and 1 1/2 if we can, and with enough commitments to developing countries to give them the support they need. they didn't cause this problem, and they're bearing the brunt of the impacts. >> as you mentioned one of the critical focuses of the summit will be agreeing on those policies to keep warming below critical thresholds. before the paris deal, the planet was on pace to warm by 4
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degrees celsius by the end of the century, which scientists say would be catastrophic. but even if the world meets its pledged commitments, and as the world is talking, is it, with 2 degrees warming, scientists say the warming should be 1.5 degrees. so today the gop will call for action to keep warming to that level, but is that realistic? >> right now with reductions made we're on track for 2.7 degrees celsius warming. we want to hold it below 2 degrees and 1.5 if we can. what do scientists say? there's no magic threshold to avoid impacts of all temperatures because we're seeing impacts today. the massive heat wave out west last summer, over 150 times more likely because of the impact of a changing climate. the risks are already here today, and what the science says is this, literally, every bit of
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warming counts. the further up the global thermometer ticks, the more risk we are all at and greater the economic damage as well. >> so much to talk about this week, we will see if it actually leads to concrete action or talk. we appreciate you coming on this morning and giving us your expertise. coming up for us, a trump critic announces he will not run for re-election. cares beautiful. listerine® cleans virtually 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to make sure you don't run out of meds here. and with amazon prime, get refills and free two-day shipping.
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republican riffs in redistricting take their toll on a rising gop star. adam kinzinger of illinois, one of ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump isn't running for re-election. >> there's little to no desire to bridge our differences, and unity is no longer a word we use. it has also become increasingly obvious to me in order to break the narrative, i cannot focus on
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both a re-election in the congress and a broader fight nationwide. i want to make it clear, this isn't the end of my political future, but the beginning. >> former president's response was not so subtle saying "two down, eight to go." rachel, what was the reaction to kinzinger's message and why do you think he made this move now? >> look, it's just the latest trump critic to fall, even after president trump is gone. it continues to show he has a firm grip on the party and it's hard to be a republican criticizing trump and running for office. earlier this year after kinzinger voted to impeach and he went out there and said he'll raise a bunch of money and primary republicans who supported the big lie. what a big change it's been in ten months to see him saying i'm going to go on the offense against republicans to i can't run for re-election right now. >> redistricting made things hard for him as well. what do you think it says on the state of the gop? >> let's be clear that he was,
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he lost at sea. the dems in illinois were doing him no favors despite his critique of former president trump, they're trying to pick up seats in the delegation and politics is ruthless when it comes to the redraw of the map in both parties. he would have faced a tough primary if he had run in his old seat. it's tough to be that public of a critic of the former president and survive in the primary electorate of the republican party. i think of the ten who voted to impeach president trump, he's probably the least surprising of the ones who were not going to run for re-election, so i'm not shocked by it. it does, though, point out that if you're going to be an outspoken voice it's pretty lonely in that. >> the house, this is one of the fascinating questions about kinzinger what does he do next? does he run for senate or governor in illinois and is there space for an anti trump
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republican in a state like illinois which is not a far right state. >> also he is part of a january 6th committee investigating the insurrection, one of two republicans defined as leadership and deciding to join that committee investigating the insurrection. this comes as donald trump is trying to block that committee from getting a whole host of his records that they're trying to get here. from cnn reporting from friday, the records that trump wants to keep secret include handwritten memos from his chief of staff about january 6th, call of the then-president and former vice president mike pence and white house visitor records. those records include working papers from then white house chief of staff mark meadows, press secretary and a white house lawyer who had notes and memos about trump's efforts to undermine the election. sabrina, do you think this effort is going to work to keep these records secret? >> it's going to lead to a legal battle. the executive privilege would not apply in this situation, and
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it's in the nation's interest to get more information about what the white house and the former president may have known in the lead-up to the january 6th insurrection. former president trump obviously encouraged his supporters to go to that rally at that rally he incited them to go to the capitol and make their voices heard, but i think that what this legal battle will do is have pretty significant implications for the reach of executive privilege for the authority former presidents have in the white house after they leave office as well as the powers of congress to subpoena congressional subpoena power. we'll see where this lands. ultimately i think the committee will prevail. it's no secret former president trump wants to keep the documents secret because they will reveal a lot more about the extent to which he and his aides were involved in the events that led up to january 6th. >> they may succeed but when will it happen, after the midterms when republicans take back majority and end the investigation. thank you for joining us. that's if for "inside politics." join us back here every sunday at 8:00 a.m. eastern time and
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. do or die. president biden gathers with global leaders to tackle a warming planet in what could be the last best chance to curb the climate crisis. >> it's about leading the world or letting the world pass us by. >> will america lead? secretar secretar secretary of state an tony blinken joins us next. and democrats set another deadline after the president asks for a vote now and progressives say nope, it's all for nothing. >> let's not keep having postponements. >> do they have a deal? i'll speak to senate budget chair bernie sanders exclusively and transportation secretary pete buttigieg ahead. plus final pitch. candidates make their closing arguments in virginia's race for governor, a surprising line from

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