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played. thank you, chloe melas. that does it for us today. appreciate you all for spending time with me. i'll see you tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime, you can join me on twitter, @ana cabrera. have a great afternoon. have a great afternoon. the news continues next. -- captions by vitac -- ♪ hello, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota, welcome to "newsroom." >> i'm victor blackwell. we are learning that there were several warning signs on the set of "rust" in the days before alec baldwin accidentally shot and killed the cinematographer. cnn has court records showing detectives seized casings, and ammunition. >> crew members were reportedly using guns with live ammo just hours before baldwin fatally shot the director of photography, halyna hutchins during that rehearsal. a source told the news outlet,
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the wrap, that some crew members went plinking, meaning shooting at beer cans, with live ammunition to pass the time. >> an actor who says he worked on "rust" said multiple blank rounds were fired at me. i felt pieces of the blanks hitting my body and face. i'm heartbroken and freaked out the more this story develops. i feel as if i literally dodged a bullet. >> cnn correspondent stephanie elam is in new mexico following the latest for us. so, stephanie, this veteran prop master has come forward, saying that he turned down a job on this movie because of some red flags. so, what did he see? >> reporter: that's right, alisyn and victor and it's noteworthy that in the beginning, he says he was very excited about looking into this job, potentially taking it on, but he felt like there were too many cost-cutting measures that were being put forth, most importantly is that he said that he wanted a five-member crew. that's what he told the "los angeles times," and they said, no, they didn't want to do that.
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instead, they wanted to combine what he calls two very important jobs into one, the armorer as well as the assistant prop master. take a listen to what he told nbc. >> i turned the job opportunity down on "rust" because i felt it was completely unsafe. i impressed upon them that there were great concerns about that and they really didn't -- didn't really respond to my concerns about that. >> reporter: and while he had those concerns, he's not the only one. we also know there were people who were actually working on the "rust" production who had concerns about safety as well onset, alisyn and victor. >> all right, so, stephanie, what are we learning about this a.d., dave? >> reporter: what we learned is that in 2019, he was subject of complaints for two separate productions, but one in particular, he was fired from,
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and it was a film called "freedom's path," and this is after a gun mishap that had accidentally discharged and it ended up injuring one of the sound techs there who recoiled from the sound of it, according to what cnn has learned, he was removed from the set immediately and he was later fired. we do know that that person had minor injuries who recoiled and was removed from the set, but this was the last production he was on from what we understand, before this happened. now, i should also mention here that we have reached out to him for comment and he has yet to respond to cnn. >> okay, stephanie elam, thank you for the reporting. >> joining us now is joseph fisher, the founder of cop prop rentals of new york. joseph, thanks for being with us. let's start with what we've learned, these details of what was found onset. two boxes of ammo, loose ammo, and ammo and a fanny pack. the fact that there was this ammunition, not just in one
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location but around the set in other locations, what's the significance to you? >> good afternoon, victor. thank you for having me. with a situation like this, hearing something like that tells me that there was a very negligent and careless approach taken to handling the props and the ammunition onset. unfortunately, we don't know if it was dummy ammo that was vouchered, if it was blank ammo or live ammo. >> yeah. this practice of plinking, we're told that uses live ammo to -- i mean, the plinking sound is the bullets hitting these cans. are people typically searched to determine if they are bringing in weapons or bullets on to a set? is that something that should happen or does happen? >> typically, the process would be to ask everybody to check themselves. if somebody was just coming from a live firing range, we would pay a little more attention to them and ask them to be a lot
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more thorough, emptying their pockets, just making sure that they were safe as possible before they were allowed to enter a hot set. >> yeah. now, ian hudson, one of the actors on the set, who i quoted at the top of the show, told tmz that more experienced actors check a prop gun or a weapon two or three times before they use it. is there some or should there be some onus on baldwin to check that? should he have checked it? >> in my experience, most of the actors that i work with will sit with me and we will check the weapon before the weapon goes onset. is it their responsibility? in some way it is, but the majority of that typically falls on either the armorer or the prop master handing them the weapon, which did not happen in this situation. >> i understand you have a prop gun to show us what that check should look like. can you give us an idea?
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>> yes, i do. okay. this is a prop nonfiring weapon. i'm going to be keeping it pointed in a safe direction during the demonstration. >> okay. >> with the weapon like the one they were using on set, the more historical weapons, they have a built-in clearing rod, which is right in here. >> okay. >> that rod gets pushed from the front to the back of the weapon, and you can see -- let me open the port here. you can see the rod extend past. that tells me there is nothing in that particular chamber. you would advance to the next chamber, repeat the process with the actor so they verify that each of the six cylinders are clear and empty on the weapon. in addition to that, you would take a rod, you would insert the rod down the barrel. this weapon has to have a plug barrel so i cannot go all the way through. but what you would want to see is the rod extending through
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into the chamber of the barrel. once that's done, the weapon is considered safe, cleerkar, and empty, and you would be able to pass that weapon to the actor. with a revolver, it's a little bit easier. once again, this is a prop, nonfiring weapon. >> yeah. >> you'd be able to open the chamber and do a visual inspection of the chamber, one by one. you would then also do a rod check, putting the rod through, making sure you could see the rod coming through the barrel without any debris or any build-up or foreign objects on it. >> now, that is the way that it's supposed to happen, and i thank you for that demonstration. it makes a lot of it more clear, what should have happened. but is that what always happens? i mean, we understand that sometimes safety precautions are lax. >> you can't compromise on safety, whether you're on a high budget set or a low budget set. there's no compromise for
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safety. and that weapon has to be inspected before it goes anywhere. otherwise, we will end up with another tragedy. >> when you say it has to be inspected before it goes anywhere, on this practice of plinking, where in down time, some of the crew members, i guess, it's target practice with live ammo. how common is that? >> i've never done that on a set. i would not allow any weapon that's going to be used onset to be used with live ammunition during down time. any of our prop weapons are secured when they're not on camera. they're put in a lock box. they're stored away. any professional in this industry, whether it be the phenomenal guys at iss props or the specialists here in new york, they take safety to another level, and something like this would never happen on a professional set. >> a tragedy on many levels. joseph fisher, thank you so much for your expertise and helping
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us understand what should have happened on that set. thank you. >> my pleasure. thank you guys. >> that was so helpful. those demos really helped me understand what's supposed to be happening. meanwhile, look at this news alert right now. this rare october nor'easter is drenching the east coast. millions of people are under flash flood advisories. in new jersey, we've already seen multiple rescues of people trapped in flood waters. heavy rain, high surf and strong winds are expected to wont well into tomorrow. >> cnn meteorologist tom sater is with us now. it's a mess already. >> yes. >> is it going to get worse? what are you seeing? >> well, the system's still strengthening so it will get worse. we heard this term, bomb cyclone. since last wednesday, we were watching a system of three. three areas of low pressure move and plow into the west coast. as they move across the country, now we're seeing the east coast and it's strengthening so the winds are going to get stronger, there's going to be more rainfall for some people. let's break it down. this area of low pressure that's hugging new jersey's coastline,
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this is the one that as it moved across the country, spawned a good 13 tornados, significant damage in missouri and illinois. now it's going to transfer its energy further offshore and become our first nor'easter of the year. thank goodness this is not happening, say, two months from now because there would be a lot of shoveling going on. this is a snowless nor'easter, all rainfall but it still has significant problems. you can see all that funneling of moisture already nearly three inches in central park, other areas over four, water rescues in parts of new jersey, where it's funneling you notice the red? those are flash flood warnings so significant more rainfall on the way. problem is we've got a lot of leaves on the trees still and with this heavy rainfall, those strong winds that they'll buffet areas from around connecticut, rhode island, cape cod, we're going to have power outages.anr moves out of to areas of new england, later on tonight. it will exit the day tomorrow,
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mainly toward tomorrow afternoon, but hurricane force wind gusts are possible in nantucket, boston, and cape cod, so we've got advisories. the next system that plowed into the west with all the mountain snow and rock slides out west, that's going to give us a chance of severe weather and tornado outbreak later today in the midwest so that's what we're going to be watching, this series of three storms really from coast to coast providing all sorts of weather. so, hang in there. crashing seas, coastal erosion still a possibility of some flooding. so, again, flood-prone areas, be very, very careful today. >> thanks for the warning, tom sater. thank you. so, we are awaiting a major step in trying to curb the pandemic. an fda panel is set to vote on authorizing pfizer's vaccine for children aged 5 and up. and house speaker nancy pelosi has a very pointed message for her caucus. we cannot miss this opportunity. we're live with updates on the democrats' negotiations. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market...
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this afternoon, an fda advisory panel is expected to vote on whether to approve pfizer's covid vaccine for children aged 5 to 11 for emergency use authorization. >> the children are less likely than adults to be hospitalized or die from coronavirus, but the director of the national institutes of health argues that vaccinating kids is one significant step forward in the fight against the pandemic. cnn's alexandra field has more. >> i think we all have been feeling the urgency for a vaccine for children for quite some time. >> reporter: if the fda gives the green light to pfizer's vaccine for children as young as five, it would mean 28 million more people eligible for better
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protection against covid-19. more than 6 million kids have tested positive for covid since the start of the pandemic, and more than a quarter of new cases in the past week were among children. >> if we can create a situation where more of these kids are not getting infected, we should be able to drive this pandemic down, which is what we really hope to do. >> reporter: with the possibility of those smaller shots in smaller arms within the next couple of weeks, health experts are making the case that it's about the public good, but it's about your children too. >> one shouldn't actually discount the fact that kids can get pretty sick with covid-19. sadly, more than 700 children have died of covid since this pandemic began. kids can also get the long covid consequences, even though they might not have a severe case. it turns out some of them just don't seem to recover. they have the fatigue, the brain fog, makes it hard to function in school. >> reporter: there are already new signs that life for kids could soon look more normal,
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more like before. in massachusetts, beginning monday, for three weeks, hopkinton high school will try lifting its mask mandate for vaccinated students and zaf. in georgia, fulton county schools are planning to make masks optional if cases stay below 1% among students. masks will then become optional 30 days after authorization of shots for kids as young as five. and in new york city, tensions are mounting over vaccine mandates for city employees. they're required to get a first shot by friday night. the city's police union now pushing back with a lawsuit. days before the deadline, 72% of the department has had at least one shot, according to the nypd police commissioner. >> vaccines have been around for a long time. they've been mandated in many ways for a long time. i just think it's, you know, we're going through this unnecessary pain and losing people and you know, that's my two cents on it for what it's
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worth. >> reporter: the feuding over masks continues too. >> that's what it really is about, a matter of respect. it's not a lot to ask, to wear a mask for 10, 15 minutes. >> reporter: in florida, a state senator battling breast cancer says the newly appointed surgeon general refused to mask up for a meeting in her office, despite repeated requests. >> we are also learning today about a covid outbreak at the denver zoo. 11 lions testing positive for covid after they showed symptoms like lethargy, sneezing and coughing, things that are familiar to all of us. the zoo says they have plans to vaccinate these lions with an animal-specific vaccine when more becomes available and previously the same zoo had two cases of covid among the tigers. >> i didn't know that lions sneezed and sneezed and coughed. >> and covid is a thing for big cats. we're seeing it in cases across the country. >> really interesting. thanks, alex. >> thanks. well, as democrats continue to negotiate a framework for the president's social safety net bill, house speaker nancy pelosi is telling her party today to embrace it for what it is.
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>> she also sent this message to progressives inside her caucus. no bill is everything. we cannot miss this opportunity. jessica dean is on capitol hill for us, so jessica, where do things stand at this hour? >> reporter: well, right now, victor and alisyn, we are waiting for senate democrats to come out of their weekly policy luncheon. this is where they gather and talk over various policies. you can imagine they have a lot to discuss today so we're hoping to get some readouts from that as to if they have made any progress on these various sticking points that remain, among them it really varies from how to pay for this, because remember, senator kyrsten sinema has opposed raising individual and corporate tax rates, which was how they were going to pay for a lot of this. will they now put in a billionaire tax so they're talking about the details surrounding that to also what is actually going to be in this bill. there's a number of issues that continue to be sticking points, chief among them whether or not to expand medicare coverage to
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include dental, vision, and hearing coverage. here's senator bernie sanders talking to my colleague, manu raju, earlier today. take a listen. >> to my mind, any serious reconciliation bill must include real medicare negotiations with the pharmaceutical industry to lower the cost of prescription drugs and serious reconciliation bill must include expanding medicare to cover dental, hearing aids and eyeglasses. >> reporter: is that a red line for you? >> and you see he wouldn't really respond there to manu when he asked if that is a red line and that's important because we know joe manchin and others may be opposed to including dental coverage so there's a lot of back and forth still around that issue. around the climate provisions, will they expand medicaid to various states that have not done so so far? and over in the house, we know house speaker nancy pelosi talking to her caucus earlier today telling them that time is really running out, that they have got to get this done and
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make some big decisions, victor and alisyn, really today, maybe a little bit tomorrow, but they want to get a vote on the infrastructure bill through the house as early as tomorrow and then that would allow them to move forward with the build back better act. we will see if they can get that done, again, waiting to hear now what comes out of this policy luncheon that is just wrapping up as we speak. >> all right, jessica dean, thank you. well, cnn is now learning that at least five former trump administration staffers are speaking with the committee investigating the insurrection. what this could tell us about where the investigation goes next. so, first, facebook under pressure. now, lawmakers turning the spotlight on other platforms like snapchat, tiktok, and youtube, all of social media's impact on kids.
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for residents and businesses. but it all starts with you. let's keep making a differene together. cnn learning that at least five former trump administration staffers have voluntarily met with the january 6th panel investigating the insurrection. members of the panel want information on former president trump's actions leading up to that deadly attack. >> cnn congressional correspondent ryan nobles joins us now. ryan, what do you know? >> yeah, victor and alisyn, this is a pretty significant development that the committee has made contact and is communicating with at least five former members of the trump white house, and as you say,
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they're very interested in the role that the former president and any of his top level staffers may have played on january 6th and the events leading up to it that could have been connected to the chaos and violence that we saw here on january 6th. now, we're not exactly sure or clear about the level of engagement with these individuals, how often they have been communicating with the committee or if they've been asked to turn over documents and if they've been willing to do so but we know there is a level of communication there which is important. now in addition to that, we know that the committee has also reached out to a broad range of former white house officials, including junior level officials as well and some of them have said, at this point, that they are not willing to voluntarily cooperate, so that could lead to subpoenas down the road if the committee thinks that is necessary. now, in addition to what we're learning about those white house officials, we're also just now learning this new information coming in to cnn, my colleagues, zac cohen and jeanne reporting
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that both ken cuccinelli and chad wolf, the two top officials in the department of homeland security during the trump administration on january 6th, have also been asked to voluntarily communicate and cooperate with the committee. now, at this point, neither of them have actually begun that process of engagement. they aren't necessarily not cooperating, but at this point, it's just an introductory level of communication between both of these men. of course, cuccinelli and wolf, very important players in all of this. they could speak to whether or not the white house was using a pressure campaign on the department of homeland security in an effort to overturn the election. so, you know, victor and alisyn, these are all very significant developments in terms of this investigation. >> it sounds like it. okay, ryan nobles, thank you for that. let's discuss all this with elliot williams, a cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, and former deputy assistant attorney general. elliot, great to see you. i want to ask what the incentive is for these former trump staffers to comply, because after they've seen steve bannon
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flout the rule of law, and at the moment, face no harsh consequences, why should they feel that they should comply with this house committee? >> yeah, you know, alisyn, the overwhelming number of people who appear before congress do so voluntarily. they have a huge incentive to do so because they have leverage over the committee if they're appearing on their own terms. they can negotiate things like the length of their testimony, the time of their appearance, how many lawyers are in the room, how many staff are in the room. if they make it a fight and get subpoenaed, they lose all of that. and then the committee can tell them not only do we want you to come in for a private meeting, no, we're actually going to have you come in under oath for a public hearing in front of all the cameras. so, it's very much in virtually any witness's interest to negotiate the terms and appear voluntarily. >> you know, it also kind of reconfirms, although we talk a lot, justifiably, about steve bannon shirking the subpoena and
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not handing over records, that this committee knows a lot more than they are sharing publicly, and they're getting a lot of incoming information that could actually kind of target where they want to go in this investigation, especially with bannon. >> yeah, and moreover, victor, you know, in any investigation, you're not going to get everybody to talk to you on the -- to the extent that you want them to. talking to people around them, both under them and over them in the chain of command, can help fill in the story. look, at the end of the day, next spring or whatever, this committee is going to issue a major report and even if it doesn't have the testimony of steve bannon or other people involved in it or interviews with them, there are going to be related individuals in the white house who are going to be able to provide a significant amount of information. now, i don't want to suggest that steve bannon's -- anything he would provide would not be central or important here, but there's a lot of people that w work in that white house and any number of them are going to speak to the committee. >> there's another development and that is that president biden has refused to exert executive privilege to protect some of the
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documents that president trump wants to keep private. why -- why would president biden help facilitate handing those over? i mean, he too wants to get to the answers of what went on in the trump administration. >> you know, there's a little bit of a dance for the president here, because yes, he and the administration has an interest in getting to the bottom of the truth, but they also have an interest in protecting the presidency, and not ensuring that any future president can always seek the documents and information out of a prior white house. so, they are balancing this. they have sort of delayed a review of some documents, so it's clear that there's -- i don't want to go as far as to say a dispute with the committee but something they're putting a pin in for now and agreeing to look at some of these documents later because look, congress and the president, even if they're from the same political party, have different interests here. >> yeah. there's also, on the bigger question of the big lie, the stolen election, as they claim, which wasn't stolen, republican
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washington -- former secretary of state kim wiemen now being named to the department of the homeland security, the top spot, making sure that future elections are safe from foreign and domestic interference. she challenged trump's lies. this is a republican. i know you're a legal analyst but just the strategy of choosing a republican to put into this position. your thoughts. >> the fact that this is even a question, victor, is remarkable. it should not be so noteworthy that not believing conspiracy theories is somehow now a partisan issue. but it is in the world we live in, that's where we've gotten over the last several years. look, there's a long history, even when i served in the department of homeland security, of people of both parties serving presidents that they didn't -- you know, from the opposite party. this should not be remarkable. and moreover, this particular office that she's serving is increasingly important. we face threats not just from within the united states but from overseas to the integrity of our election systems, so
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cybersecurity's important, and it's -- and it looks, from her background, that she's very much the right person for the job. >> yeah. it should not be remarkable, but the polling shows us that she's out of step with a large part of the party who believes that this is central to being a republican. elliot williams, thank you. >> take care, victor, alisyn. >> you too. facebook is facing controversy today again, a report reveals what happens if you click the angry emoji on a facebook post. we'll explain that. sharing smiles together is a gift. at aspen dental, it's easy to gift yourself the smile you deserve. new patients, get started with a comprehensive exam and full set of x-rays with no obligation. and if you don't have insurance, it's free. plus, get 20% off your treatment plan. enjoy flexible payment options and savings when it matters most. we're here to make your smile shine bright
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more fallout for facebook as whistle-blowers and internal documents paint a damning picture. "the washington post" reports that starting in 2017, facebook's algorithm was programmed to put higher value on emojis like the angry face. they gave an angry response five times more value than content that got likes on the news feed. the company's own researchers were worried about this, warning that this could open the door to abuse, rage, and polarizing users. here are just a few effects the whistle-blowers allege that facebook and its algorithms are having on the world. enabling the spread of hate speech, misinformation and conspiracy theories, empowering extremists and becoming a marketplace for human trafficking. critics also say facebook cannot or will not police itself adequately and has misled investors while putting profits and growth over human safety. founder mark zuckerberg denies
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all this and insists that the leaked documents have been cherry picked to paint a false picture of the company. congresswoman laurie is backing legislation to protect kids and teens from online harm. she also co-wrote a letter to mark zuckerberg, urging him to abandon plans to develop an instagram for kids platform. congresswoman, great to see you as always. i mean, this -- this revelation about what the engineers of the facebook algorithm did, whereby they put five times the value on somebody expressing anger after reading content, the angry emoji face, than they did likes. what more do we need to know? what has been the real-world consequence of that algorithm? >> well, i think we know the real-world consequences of these engagement rankings, right, that frances haugen talked about in her testimony. i mean, they do -- they lead to one in three young girls feeling poorly about themselves as a result of being on the platform. it leads to events like january
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6th. i mean, this is truly a watershed moment because i know a lot of my colleagues feel like they've been lied to, especially about the safety of our children, and that's a bipartisan feeling on capitol hill at a moment when there's not a lot of bipartisanship to go around. and i think facebook and the tech lobby are aware of just how dangerous that is for them. so, i think that, you know, these types of stories, thank goodness for these former employees and these whistle-blowers who are coming out and telling the truth, because i do think it's going to convert into legislation. >> well, i do want to ask you about that because you're the mom of two young girls, as we've talked about, you have tried to sponsor some of this legislation. what is congress going to do and when? i mean, since there's bipartisan agreement that there needs to be some regulation and policing of this, when can we expect that? >> for sure. there's bipartisan agreement, certainly, on the diagnosis. i think we have a lot of work
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teeto do in terms of coming up with policy prescriptions but regulation is likely going to take multiple bills spanning congress's committee jurisdiction. i mean, we need comprehensive privacy that puts an end to surveillance advertising. we need to reform our antitrust laws. but we need to require transparency right now. i mean, it is not in facebook's best interest to know the full impact of their content moderation practices on our children or our society, but it's incumbent on congress to do what these companies won't, and we have to require transparency. we must give enforcers like the ftc the resources and the teeth to go after companies like facebook who claim to be acting in the best interest of users but are actually doing the opposite. so, we're right now, we're working on legislation as a result of the facebook papers to create a new bureau. we know that facebook has grown the way it has because of anti-competitive conduct and unethical use of data that
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allows it to create algorithms that are manipulative but it's also a harmful and opaque algorithmic design, and that, i think, is where we really need to spend some of our legislative time is working on the transparency and enforcement. >> yeah. while i have you, i do want to ask what else is happening with democrats. so, as you probably have heard, speaker pelosi said today, no bill is everything, and she's basically, it sounds like, urging her caucus to accept what's in there right now. do you think that it was a mistake to use the kitchen sink approach with the build back better bill and the infrastructure where everything was put in there and then we've seen this haggling over the course of these couple months instead of paring it down? >> look, i think we have an unbelievable opportunity, and i think when we see the final package that is going across the finish line, in the, you know, days ahead, we're going to be really proud of the moment of
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thinking big and bold about this moment. i mean, we're going have an opportunity to create an economy that's fair for everybody, that people can participate, that women can participate. alisyn, i'm home right now, proxy voting, because i got that phone call from the school nurse that my 7-year-old, my second grader, was exposed and she couldn't go to school. do you know how many women get that phone call and because we don't have a paid family and medical leave policy in our country, they sink under the logistics or the pressure and the anxiety of getting that phone call. that's what's the problem right now. that's what we're trying to fix. we want women to go back into the workforce. we need to have a paid family and medical leave. we need child care to be there for our working families. so, i think when all is said and done, we're going to have a work product that we're really going to be proud of. >> and do you think -- i mean, i know that you had originally wanted the 12 weeks of paid family leave. it's going to be, sounds like, four. is that enough? for what you're talking about? >> you know, it's better right
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now than we have. and i mean, look, i want to be pragmatic about this. i mean, certainly, we are the wealthiest country in the world, and we should be acting as though we are by giving those 12 weeks, but we're trying to accomplish so many of these things for so many families that have different struggles, so i think that us looking at, you know, how we can get the best deal possible is -- has been the goal. for all of my colleagues, whether in the progressive caucus or in the new dems. >> congresswoman lori trahan, thank you for your time. >> thank you. great to see you. >> you too. well, florida police, they made a big admission and announced a series of mistakes in the months-long search for brian laundrie, including a possible case of mistaken identity. let's check out the hook audrey sent. ♪ i right these wrongs like rhymes ♪ ♪ o like me oh my ♪ ♪ land and sea, that's mine ♪ ♪ and pardon when i shine ♪
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florida law enforcement says they made a key mistake in the search for brian laundrie after his fiance gabby petito was reported missing. the police in north port say while they were surveilling the family's home, they thought they saw brian return to the house but it was actually his mother. >> yeah, that means that for days investigators thought brian was in the house and not at the nature preserve where his remains were ultimately found. cnn's nick valencia is outside the laundrie home. nick, we're learning that the laundries are just back at home. what do you know? and how did something like this happen? >> that's right. just within the last five minutes, victor, brian
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laundrie's parents returned to the household, chris and roberta. we believe this is the first time they have been back at their home since sunday evening. it's important to note that roberta l rob roberta laundrie is wearing a baseball cap. he returned mid september wearing a baseball cap, and that's the reason, and the explanation police are giving us as to why they confused the two. for days, even though they were giving press conferences saying they knew exactly where brian laundrie was, he was already on the run. take a listen to josh taylor from the north port police department describe this blunder, this major blunder. >> i believe it was his mom who was wearing a baseball cap. they had returned from the park with that mustang. so who does that? right? like if you think your son is missing since tuesday, you're going to bring his car back to the home. so it didn't make sense that anyone would do that if he wasn't there, so the individual
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getting out with a baseball cap, we thought was brian. >> reporter: what we don't know so far and what's not clear is if police believe this was a deliberate action by the mother to cause a diversion. that's something that the north port police did not talk about. just now when they returned to the home victor and alisyn, i asked them how they were feeling and if they ever planned to make a comment publicly. they did not comment to either question. victor, alisyn. >> she's wearing a floral blouse. that doesn't seem like somebody who's intentionally trying to dress as a young nan. >> the baseball cap was enough to throw off the investigators? it's remarkable. >> it's perplexing. nick valencia, thank you very much for that. president biden is headed to campaign in virginia today in an effort to turn out the vote for democratic candidate terry mcauliffe. his impact on the tight race, next.
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in a few hours, president biden will head to virginia to make a last minute push to boost turnout from terry mcauliffe in his race to become governor defend. >> the democratic candidate is
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in a surprisingly tight race against glenn youngkin, it's surprising because president biden won virginia by ten points. cnn's joins us now. youngkin is making schooling an issue in this race. what's he seeing. >> glenn youngkin is landing on this argument that it's a fundamental right in virginia for parents to be engaged in their children's education, and that his opponent, terry mcauliffe doesn't believe that. that's no t the case. a comment mcauliffe said has been spun out of control. he said he was not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decision and he didn't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. now, he has said he is running a virginia focus campaign, youngkin, that is, but has latched on to the national implications of this issue. listen to youngkin beating this drum today out on the campaign trail.
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>> as we hear from parents who e-mail me and text me and call me and say stand up for our kids too, it goes to show that virginians have a chance to do something for virginia that's going to have an effect on the whole country. >> youngkin does seem very comfortable with this narrative. when you go to his rallies, i have been to many. it's filled with faparents and grandparents animated by the parents message. it's unclear if this is getting him new voters or people in the conservative base who would have likely voted for youngkin anyway. >> can you explain also how this classic toni morrison book "beloved" is at the center of this race is this. >> how did we get here. youngkin has a new ad that features a mother, laura murphy. she is from fairfax county, and a conservative activist, and she spearheaded a campaign long ago, this was years ago against
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"beloved" after she claimed it gave her son, a high school senior at the time nightmares. she sought to have the book banned temporarily, and the book details atrocities slaves faced. mcauliffe is discounting this episode as a racist dog whistle looking to gin up support from the extreme elements of the party. youngkin says this is about is centering parental choice and not about race. >> up until now, parents haven't wanted to control curriculum, and dive into the nitty-gritty of the curriculum of their kids schools. this is a new phenomenon of being able to control all of this. >> the idea that "beloved" is the target now. >> it's amazing. let's take a listen to a clip from youngkin's latest ad? >> when my son showed me his reading assignment, his heart sunk. it w s


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