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>> there was a movie in space. there should be "the office" in space. >> no question about it. >> instead of saying your wfh, you would say you're wfs. >> right? >> kristin, thank you so much. really is interesting. cnn's coverage continues right now. very good tuesday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. today is the day that many parents have been waiting for. an important first step, an fda advisory board is meeting right now, they'll decide whether to recommend authorizing pfizer's vaccine for 5 to 11-year-olds. this is just one step. we're going to take a closer look at the timeline for you including when your kids could potentially get that first shot just ahead. plus, facebook's ceo on defense once again.
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mark zuckerberg is blaming the torrent of bad press sparked from facebook's own internal documents on a, quote in his words, coordinated effort to paint a false picture of the company. so far shares in facebook have not taken a hit. and new revelations about what was happening on set in the hours before alec baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer. we are learning why live ammunition may ahave been in tht gun. those details to come. we begin this morning with cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and the meeting that is happening right now on vaccines for children. so, elizabeth, walk us through the steps here. there is more than one presuming today that there is a recommendation for the shots to go forward. >> right. there are more than one step, that's because you two agencies, the fda and the cdc involved and then advisory panels to each of those. those are outside experts who
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have nothing to do with the agencies themselves, who give their impartial opinion. let's look big picture at the timeline here for how this will all work out. so today we have the advisory committee to the u.s. food and drug administration meeting and they will look at certain data. and then this later this week or perhaps early next week we're expected to hear from the fda, a final decision on whether they'll give emergency use authorization for pfizer to the vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. and then november 2nd and 3rd, cdc advisers. a whole new set of outside experts will look at this, and then sometime after november 3rd, we're thinking shortly after november 3rd, the cdc director dr. rochelle walensky will give her green light and that will be the final green light. so all of this, what it adds up to is with dr. anthony fauci said a few days ago, which he said he is optimistic that
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children will be vaccinated with pfizer, have the opportunity to be vaccinated with pfizer sometime in the first two weeks of november. so let's look at the data that the experts will be looking at today. the data, according to pfizer, shows for children ages 5 to 11, that this vaccine is 90.7% effective against symptomatic covid-19. what they did is they gave about 1300 children the vaccine in a clinical trial and over time 3 of them became sick with covid-19. they gave 763 children a placebo that does nothing. a far smaller number, not 50/50, a far smaller number and 16 of those children became sick. those numbers are telling. far more children became sick who received the placebo, even though fewer received the pla placebo. the bottom line is these advisers will look at that data and dr. paul offett, he put it very succinctly.
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let's take a listen. >> can promise you when we have this discussion that if we do end up recommending this vaccine, we will only do it if we give it to our own children. >> so, again, dr. fauci saying that he is optimistic, he wants to see this committee do its work. but he's optimistic that children ages 5 to 11 will get vaccinated with pfizer in the first two weeks of november. >> i'm focusing on that optimism, elizabeth, appreciate it, thank you. well, this morning, facebook is in crisis. the social media giant trying to spin damning revelations about how it does business as more details emerge from tens of thousands of internal documents leaked by whistle-blower frances haugen. those documents laying bare how the company profits off the spread of false information. >> good actors, good publishers are already publishing all the content they can do. but bad actors have an incentive to play the algorithm and they
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figure all the ways to optimize facebook. so the current system is biased towards bad actors and biased towards people who pushed people to the extremes. >> remarkable. she's say it is in the technology, according to the documents facebook allegedly misled the public about the 2020 election and the capitol insurrection, knowingly promoted conspiracy theories, knew that its platform was being used to incite violence, was aware of human trafficking taking place on its apps and may have misled its own oversight board. cnn correspondent donie o'sullivan and capitol hill reporter melanie zanona are here with more. you've been covering this very closely here. mark zuckerberg pushing back, defensive tone, this during an earnings call. i wonder what do these say and is it your view having covered this for so long that facebook considers what it is going through now different from previous bouts with bad press? >> yeah. i mean, they certainly have given up kind of engaging on the
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issues. we have seen over the past week a facebook spokesperson telling the washington post that some reporting was beneath them and yesterday we saw zuckerberg having a pop at the media. have a listen to him on that earnings call. >> good faith criticism helps us get better. but my view is that what we're seeing is a coordinated effort to selectively use leaked documents to paint a false picture of our company. the reality is that we have an open culture, where we encourage discussion and research, about our work, so we can make progress on many complex issues that are not specific to just us. >> and when he talks there about selectively choosing documents here, frances haugen has released tens of thousands of pages of documents, and it is the company's own research and to his point about it being an open culture, that certainly does seem to be the case in the extent that we have seen many
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comments from employees and including on january 6th, to executives, internally saying we have some culpability here. but it is all fine to have an open culture, but the message doesn't seem to be making its way to the top. >> doesn't seem to be making -- there are issues there. melanie, i remember when frances haugen was testifying in washington, in the uk yesterday, and there was really this bipartisan moment of, you know, we have to do something, this is not acceptable, but the real question is what is that something? is there any more movement this morning on capitol hill from congress? >> well, capitol hill has wanted to crack down on big tech for quite some time now. but these new revelations about facebook are only adding momentum to those efforts, and one idea that is being kicked around now is to reform the legal shield that protects internet companies from being held liable for content posted by its users.
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a bill introdue bill introduced that shield when internet companies knowingly or recklessly used personalized ail gore algorithms. i should note there are note republican co-sponsors on that bill just yet. the other idea being kicked around is to create more competition in the marketplace. the house judiciary committee passed a package of antitrust bills earlier this summer. there were a couple of republicans who supported those measures, but those bills have not received a vote in the house floor yet. so, look, even though there is bipartisan anger as you mentioned, it is unclear whether that is going to actually translate into action. and part of the problem is that democrats and republicans while they agree about the need to rein in silicon valley, they have disagreements over how best to do that and what that should
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look like. the other big issue is money. big tech is one of the biggest political spenders in washington. they have been some of the most powerful and untouchable industries on capitol hill. this is what david cicilline, a member of the house judiciary committee told me. he said, with enormous economic power very often comes enormous political power. and they are spending millions and millions of dollars flooding this town with lobbyists and campaign contributions, doing everything they can to stop the reforms. this is the reason that battles against monopolies are hard. so, look, we'll see what happens here. but i will say that proponents of reining in big tech feel like the tides have finally turned in their favor. >> we'll see. there is some bipartisan support, but i'm sure the lobbying machines are churning into action now. melanie zanona on the hill, donie o'sullivan, thank you very much. president biden rejected the latest executive privilege claim by former president trump. this over documents that trump is trying to keep out of the hands of the january 6th select committee.
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>> cnn white house correspondent jeremy diamond joining us now. jeremy, this is after the former president had filed a lawsuit to stop the national archives from turning over documents. what is the latest here? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. former president trump filed that lawsuit after the biden administration rejected his claims of executive privilege in one instance previously already. now, this is the second instance that the white house and president biden have formally decided to wave executive privilege over a batch of documents requested by the select committee investigating those events on january 6th. let me read you a snippet from the white house counsel dana remus, her letter to the national archives. she writes, president biden determined an assertion of executive privilege is not in the best interests of the united states and therefore is not justified as to the documents provided to the white house on september 16th and september 23rd, 2021. accordingly president biden does not uphold the former president's assertion of privilege. one thing that the white house has made very clear is that they are going to continue to review
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these requests for documents on a case by case basis. former president trump sought to assert this wide ranging executive privilege over all of these documents, the white house here is going to go methodically batch after batch and determine whether or not it is worthy of those claims of executive privilege or whether to wave that privilege altogether. it appears that's what the administration decided to do now in two instances and going forward, the white house made very clear that they view this as a unique and extraordinary set of circumstances that because it involves an investigation into this insurrection that they believe that that is a set of extraordinary circumstances that does not warrant the use of executive privilege. but they are going to continue to review that going forward. one thing we don't know is that lawsuit that former president trump has filed, whether that's just going to be a delay tactic or whether or not there is any merit to those claims that the court may find in terms of that request and claim of executive
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privilege. >> jeremy diamond, appreciate it, thank you. up next, an accident waiting to happen. that's how one veteran prop master who turned down a job on "rust" described the set of that alec baldwin movie. we have new details about what was happening behind the scenes and why industry experts say it was way outside the norm. plus, i'll speak live to democratic congressman josh gottheimer, this as the clock ticks on a deal to pass biden's agenda, moderates and progressives adding new red lines in the last 24 hours. what does that all mean? later, north port florida police admit they made mistakes in the brian laundrie investigation. what those were, how important, just ahead. hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed
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there are new details this morning about events leading up to the fatal shooting on the set of the alec baldwin produced film "rust." >> "the new york times" just reporting ammunition was found in a fannie pack on set and in boxes and loose. that's according to court records from santa fe county. we learned yesterday that in the hours before cinematographer halyna hutchins was killed, crew members used live ammunitions in a gun in a past time called plinking. here is more from the ceo of "the wrap" who broke that story. >> there is this past time that crew members sometimes do called plinking. they go out into the rural areas and they shoot at beer cans. this is with live ammunition. we learned this happened the morning of the day that halyna hutchins was killed. >> cnn's lucy kafanov is in
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santa fe, new mexico. in terms of this ammunition that was found, loose and in a couple of different areas, what more do we know about that? were those live rounds, dummies? >> reporter: the court documents that were obtained by the "new york times" don't specify what kind of ammunition it was, whether it was dummies or regular bullet s, or blank cartridges. we know there was ammo in boxes, loose and inside the fannie pack. and there were three revolvers that were seized from the scene. now, in terms of the other practice that you described, the reporting on plinking, crew members going out to allegedly shoot beer cans or whatever it might have been that morning, if that reporting is confirmed, which cnn has not been able to verify independently, that could explain how a live gun and live ammo could have gotten on set, but, again, authorities at this stage have not specified what type of projectile was emitted
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out of that gun, killing halyna hutchins, the 42-year-old director of cinematography. we have learned they will pause production, pause filming in santa fe while the investigation takes place. in a statement, the production company wrote, as we go through this crisis, we have made the decision to wrap the set at least until the investigations are complete. though our hearts are broken and it is hard to see beyond the horizon, this at the moment is a pause rather than an end. the spirit that brought us all to this special place remains. the producers tell cnn they're cooperating with the investigation. they're also offering mental health services for the cast and the crew. this was a tremendously traumatic event for everyone involved. no charges have been filed, but we are expecting an update from the sheriff's office on wednesday. we look forward to seeing if there is any more details about this investigation, guys.
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>> lucy kafanov, thank you so much. joining us now on the phone is patrick story, a prop master, who has worked with weapons on television shows such as "homeland" and "the walking dead". it is good to have you on this morning given your experience. my first question is a very basic one, why would there be any need what so ever to have live ammunition on a movie set for any reason? i mean, the idea of plinking, you know, shooting off rounds for the hell of it in between shoots just seems totally unnecessary, but what function could live ammunition have? >> well, thanks for having me. first, i really feel like it is another round of a broken record. there is no reason for this to happen. and i get a little choked up because i worked really hard and i think all prop teams really are affected by this. everyone in our industry is.
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but there is just no -- there is no reason and i guess this is where i feel like a broken record because every single person who has been in the media that is in the industry and is close to this says the same thing. there is just no room for this kind of mistake. >> so to that point, patrick, i think you're right, everyone that -- i know jim and i have spoken with, and folks on our team here, have said the exact same thing. which then raises the question, right, is how it ended up happening on the set, if it is never supposed to happen, there is really the set of checks and balances that is supposed to be there, there are very specific rules. and specific jobs for everyone. what are the questions that this raises for you? >> well, i think that part of it lies in union jurisdictional rules. so, in other words, you know, if
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you're doing these kinds of things in a large -- in a large professional area, los angeles, new york, atlanta, there is a big contingency of very experienced people who play by these rules. and, you know, i hate to just mention it as just a sense of physical proximity, but i can just imagine the situation where, you know, you're farther and farther away from really experienced crew and a lot of really experienced crew is not available right now. but i just feel like it -- in some ways it could just come down to a cavalier attitude about, you know, we're out in the wild west and we're having a lot of fun and here we go, guys, let's shoot some targets. >> okay, to that point, patrick, the new york times is reporting that detective found three revolvers, spent cases, casings, rather, and ammunition in boxes loose and in a fannie pack.
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they don't specify what that ammunition was, whether it was blanks or live rounds, but regardless, based on best practices in your experience, would something like this happen on a well managed film set? >> never. all those tools and i mention them as tools because they're tools for us to tell stories, but they're all locked away. and, you know, as i'm just going to repeat this, as everyone has, with those things don't come out until it is time to hand off the weapon to shoot the scene where we're actually firing blank rounds. >> does this concern you at all moving forward? >> you know, i think -- as much as i hate to say it, i think that sometimes these incidents happen and they correct behaviors. i'm standing -- i'm on my truck right now, about, i don't know, 100 yards from the stage where
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brandon lee was shot. and here we are very, very aware of what can happen. and so, you know, i guess it is -- to me it is proximity. we're very close to where a former tragedy happened. and, you know, it's just -- i think sometimes awareness is only raised when something this high profile goes down. and i just feel awful for the film community. i feel awful for halyna's family. and, you know, it is basically all i have to say. >> well, listen, you're right, unfortunately it does take a tragedy, right, sometimes for things to change. but patrick, really appreciate you joining us with your expertise and with your insight this morning. thank you. >> yeah. >> thank you. at this hour, at this very moment, an advisory panel is meeting. they're there to talk about
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whether they should recommend the fda authorize pfizer's covid vaccine for 5 to 11-year-olds. so how important could this be in that race to control the pandemic? and we are moments away from the opening bell on wall street. futures are up slightly this morning after another record close for the dow yesterday. the market also pointing higher as investors look forward to a big day of earnings reports from some of america's largest tech companies such as microsoft and alphabet. shares of facebook were up as well in premarket trading this morning after the company reported mai higher than expected earnings yesterday. we're going to continue to follow all the market news. tv: mount everest, the tallest mountain on the face of the earth. keep dreaming. [coins clinking in jar] ♪ you can get it if you really want it, by jimmy cliff ♪ ♪
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right now, fda vaccine advisers are meeting to decide whether to authorize pfizer's covid-19 vaccine for children 5 to 11. if all goes well, parents could expect to vaccinate their children within the first two months of november. >> pediatric cases have been declining for seven weeks now, but they're still explained as extremely high. last week nearly 118,000 children tested positive for the virus, that actually accounts for a quarter of all new cases. joining us now, dr. david k
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kimberland. we look at the latest numbers, cases in children are on the decline, still, the fact they're making up a quarter of all new cases, how much in your mind does that add to the urgency for a vaccine for children? >> i think we all have been feeling the urgency for a vaccine for children for quite some time. the delta variant that slammed the southeast and now is causing problems up in the midwest and in alaska and other regions of the united states has continued to show that children can become infected with this virus, that they can become very sick from this virus and over 500 children have died from sars covid 2, the virus that causes the covid infection and disease, since the onset of this pandemic. so the sooner that we have an authorized fully vetted and authorized vaccine for 5 through 11-year-olds to begin with, that's going to be significant steps forward on this path toward getting to the other side
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of this pandemic. >> okay, so signs pointing in the direction of approval and vaccinations beginning the first half of november. the distribution will be different than we saw for vaccines for adults, in other words, for one example, they won't rely on big vaccination centers like a lot of us got vaccinated more leaning more on pediatricians, how will that affect the rollout of this? will it make it harder to get shots as parents want them, as quickly as parents want them? >> i hope anyway that it will be a smoother rollout. and the reason i say that is because when the large vaccination centers were first stood up if you will in february and march and that period of this calendar year, we didn't have that infrastructure in place before. these things were curreated to meet a very important need. when it comes to pediatric vaccinations, we have a well established decades old infrastructure that we can fall back on, we can rely on, and it
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is the pediatricians offices and family practitioner offices as well and public health centers, places where children and their families have been going to, receive healthcare and receive vaccines to prevent normal regular childhood illnesses for a long period of time. i really think that by being able to fall back on to that established infrastructure with the established relationships we have a good chance of having this go quite smoothly. i do think as well i will add that many pediatric and i think family practitioner offices are stretched right now. and that is a challenge because, you know, we're close to two years into this pandemic, and it has taken a major toll on healthcare providers and many offices, you know, are operating with fewer staff now than they were a year ago. so there are challenges. i don't mean to minimize that. i think overall by relying on pediatricians and family practice doctors wear going to
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have a good rollout here. >> having that trusted relationship is so important as we learned with the rollout for vaccines among adults that comfort level and comfort with where your information is coming from is key. i'm curious, what kinds of questions are you getting from parents and from children because there are a lot of kids who are old enough to ask questions in this age range about the vaccine. >> children ask if it is going to hurt. they're interested in the shot. parents want to know why it is necessary. and it is a legitimate question. it is a very easily answered question, 500 plus children have died during the course of the pandemic. about, you know, one in ten will have long covid symptoms who, you know, survive, asymptomatic infection or symptomatic disease. we don't know what the long-term outcomes with long covid are for adults or for children. so there are major risks from this virus for the child himself
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or herself. and i think that's first and foremost what parents are going to be concerned about. and that's part of the conversation. in addition, you know, you messengered bef mentioned before a quarter of all cases were part -- in the pediatric population. that indicates that if you can bring down the amount of infection and disease in that group, we have an opportunity to have an impact for their grands and for their parents on immunoim immunosuppressive drugs. >> for some reason, months and months in that message still hasn't gotten through with a lot of people. thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, senator joe manchin says he sees a deal in sight. but now some progressives, they are sounding a potential alarm, a sticking point that could derail a big week for president biden's agenda, sticking points really. we'll have more next.
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cnn correspondent nick valencia joining us from north port. so, i mean, they were confusing the two. what else did that lead to, nick, or not lead to in this case? >> a lot of confusion and a lot of criticism, jim and erica. throughout this entire case there is no shortage of criticism toward the police department and how they handled the investigation and at least in this instance they're saying it is warranted, saying they failed to keep up a proper surveillance on brian laundrie when he returned home alone to his parent's house without his fiancee gabby petito. but there was enough suspicions about his involvement that they believed that they needed to keep an eye on him. in mid-september, he had not yet officially been named a person of interest in her disappearance. and eventually finding her dead. nor had he been given an indictment or handed an indictment on that bank fraud. but police were still keeping an eye on him late one night they say that his mother returned in brian laundrie's mustang, leading a baseball cap, that led to a confusion, they said they
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have a similar type build. listen to what they said about their mix-up. >> i believe it was his mom who was wearing a baseball cap. they had returned from the park with that mustang. so who does that? right? if you think your son is missing, since tuesday, you're going to bring his car back to the home, so it didn't make sense that anyone would do that if he wasn't there. so the individual getting out with the baseball cap, we thought was brian. >> reporter: now, police have yet to say if this was a deliberate diversion or not, but clearly there is a lot of zeroing in on the parents and many wondering if they will face any charges. we're still waiting on official confirmation of the autopsy, and, again, whether or not those parents will face any charges. jim and erica, you know throughout this entire time there has been some not so veiled comments from the north port police department specifically about the potential involvement in helping brian laundrie go on the run.
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>> real, real hard questions need to be answered. good to have you there. thank you very much. and we'll be right back.
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this morning, democrats hopes for a vote this week on the bipartisan infrastructure bill hitting what could be a major roadblock. for more, let's get to lauren fox on capitol hill. so, is this vote on infrastructure looking less likely than it was even 24 hours ago? >> reporter: well, erica, there are a lot of moving parts right now. the democrats are having to sort through, one of them is what
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order once again these bills are going to have to come to the floor. as you know, the bipartisan infrastructure bill already passed out of the senate, but the holdup has been in the house of representatives, where some progressives have argued they want a fuller picture of what the framework for that bigger social safety net bill is before they agree to allow a vote on that bipartisan infrastructure bill. well, last night the leading progressive of the progressive caucus in the house pramila jayapal told us that she wanted to see a fuller framework and that she wanted these votes on both the social safety net bill and the bipartisan infrastructure bill to happen within a tight time period. so that puts a lot of pressure on leadership to make sure they have all the details ironed out on that bigger social safety net bill. as we have said, there are still a lot of sticking points on that piece of legislation. whether it is how to pay for the bill, what the top line will be for it, what programs will be included, whether that is a
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medicare expansion, an obamacare expansion, there are a lot of moving parts now and democrats just don't have consensus. they're trying to get it on issues like climate and how to pay for this bill, but right now there isn't a final deal, in part because of opposition from some moderates in the senate like senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. erica? >> a lot of moving parts. that is certainly one way to put it. a lot going on there. lauren fox, appreciate it. thank you. all right, so what's happening? joining me now to talk about all this, democratic congressman josh gottheimer of new jersey. he's co-chair of the problem solvers caucus. congressman, good to have you back on the show. >> great to be here. thank you for having me, jim. >> so, nancy pelosi says she's enthusiastic about the party's prospects for a deal. dick durbin says he believes you can get a deal by this week. joe manchin says it could be reached imminently. do you believe that? >> i'm talking to a lot of folks and i agree with all them. we're incredibly close. what is clear is that we need to vote this week. we got to vote on the bipartisan
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infrastructure bill this week. there is no reason to hold it up anymore. it passed out of the senate in early august. all i do at home is hear we got to get people to work, president biden was in new jersey yesterday at the train depot to get kicked off the huge infrastructure project between new york and new jersey, a train tunnel, stressing the importance of getting it done. i think we all agree we have to move here and we're very close on the social infrastructure bill, on the build back better bill and now we just got to get both over the finish line. >> okay. to be fair, we had you on a month ago, september 22 nd, you deadline, skeptember 27th. >> given the conversations i had then, i was optimistic and himself i'm an optimistic person, somebody who believes we
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have to get this done. what we're hearing from leadership is their belief and the president's belief of moving this forward. of course, you know, there's always asterisks next to that and when you hear some comments out of some of my friends on the left about their concerns, you understand that, you know, that might be a holdup. but the bottom line is you're starting to hear that consensus and i believe the pressure is clearly mounting from our folks back home and from what hardworking men and women, 2 million jobs a year from people saying let's get this done, let's not hold this bipartisan infrastructure bill, roads, bridges, rail, trains, climate resiliency, all the things we believe in and get a win for the country. that's why i'm optimistic because it doesn't make any sense to hold it up. >> okay. let me ask you this -- because we again have this pickle, right, in that some are talking
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about voting for infrastructure when you have a framework but not the language for the budget bill. we've been there before, right? are progressives and doerm demo going to vote for the infrastructure on an outline of the budget bill? >> i think this is a matter of whether or not the president feels comfortable with that agreement, that framework, and whether or not the speaker does and starts whipping votes and saying to people, i feel good enough where this is. i think we're close to that framework. you're faulk about important things like child care and climate change. a lot of things that matter to folks back home. so, you know, i think when they start getting behind it and pushing hard, i believe enough folks will come on board and we can get this done. i hope it's bipartisan, too, and i think there will be republicans voting for that bipartisan infrastructure bill as well in the house. >> there are a lot of pieces here. i'll ask you some in or outpand
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or out? >> a lot of things are still being negotiated. >> that's still under negotiation. okay. how the state and local tax deduction, raising the cap? is that in or out? >> i feel very good based on my conversations including last night that that will be in. it's got to be in if they want the votes of some of us. >> how about this billionaires' tax as a way to replace some lost income due to opposition among some democrats to, for instance, raising the corporate tax rate? is that going to be in? >> there's still a lot of conversation going on around that and a lot of debate still happening on the specifics. so i think you'll see some counterproposals coming up. >> okay. big picture, messaging-wise, as you know, the president's approval rating is down, down in the low 40s, averaging mid to low 40s based on cnn's poll of polls.
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but this particular number stuck out. recent polling shows only 36% of people believe the build back better plan will help them and their families. only 41% believe it will help the national economy. just like a sliver above those who think it will hurt them. it doesn't seem like the message is getting through on this. >> i can tell you what i'm hearing back home in northern new jersey. people want the infrastructure bill, the rail, broadband, they want us to get that done. i hear that all the time. people are coming up all the time about getting that done. they're also talking about getting tax relief for them and fighting climate change and child care and universal pre-k. when i talk to people about these issues, i'm hearing a lot of positive news. that's why we have to actually, to your point, get it done. this is why this week is so important. if you don't get it done, obviously people can't get -- the country can't get the victory it deserves. that's what this is about and
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why this week is so important and why i'm going to keep pressing. >> okay. >> i'm optimistic about it. i'm optimistic because i know how important it is for folks back home, and i believe at the end of the day we have to do what people want back home, and i'm hoping everyone shows up and votes for it for that reason. >> if you don't get it passed quickly, do you sink democrats' chances in the midterms and threaten biden's presidency? yes or no? >> i'm not going to entertain because i'm just going to say we're going to get it done. we have to get it done. >> i'm never going to question your optimism. i love to talk with you. we'll see if i would bears out this time. >> plenty of people can be negative. it's okay to be positive occasionally. >> i hear you. always good to have you on the show. >> great to see you. take care. >> just ahead, new details in the fatal shooting on the set of that alec baldwin film. ammunition was found in multiple
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