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>> hello, everyone. thanks so much for joining me this sunday. i'm fredericka whitfield. all right. new questions are emerging in that deadly shooting on the set of alec baldwin's film "rust" that kills cinematographer helena hutchins. cnn has now learned about past allegations involving the movie's assistant director david halls, two people who worked closely with him tell cnn that he was accused of several safety complaints on two productions back in 2019. this as we're seeing new photos of baldwin meeting with hutchins' husband and son in new mexico. in a statement the actor says his heart is broken for them and is fully cooperating as police investigate. cnn correspondent lucy kafanov is in santa fe for us. lucy, where does the investigation stand? >> reporter: well, the investigation we know that authorities have combed through every inch of that movie set property. we actually talked off the record to one of the sheriffs
here who said they have basically gotten everything that they have needed to get from that location. we now have to piece together exactly what happened on that set, what negligence may have taken place on that set, and to that point the first time that we heard about this assistant director was in the affidavit. we know that david halls was actually outside of the structure where the team was practicing during their rehearsals or shooting, film shooting on that fateful thursday afternoon. we know that the head arm oher left three prop weapons on a cart outside of that building. david halts the assistant director grabbed one of the weapons, walked into a structure and hand it had to in mr. baldwin shouting dold weapon which should have meant no live rounds. cnn has been told that david halls was the subject of two complaints on several productions back in 2019 including disregard safety protocols for guns and
pyrotechnics, things like fire lanes, for example, and exit being consistently blocked. that's the word used by one of the sources. instances of inappropriate sexuality behavior. one pyrotechnician said that he neglected to hold safety meetings as consistently failed to announce the presence of a firearm on set to the crew. that's usually standard procedure for safety on sets like this. she tells cnn that, quote, the only reason the crew was made aware of the weapon's sprens because of the assistant prop master demand that david acknowledge and announce situation each day. now another crew members told cnn when halls did have the safety meetings he was quite dismissive and short. he questioned the need to have them in the first place. now, we have reached out to mr. halls to try to get a reaction to some of these allegations. we have not yet heard back. fredericka. >> and then lucy, everyone is still mourning the loss of
helena. there was a vigil last night. how are people reacting? >> reporter: there were a lot of hugs, a lot of tears, a lot of processing of how this could have happened, you know, fred. this vigil took place in downtown albuquerque. most of the folks in attendance were part of the industry. it was organized by the union representing television and film workers, so a lot of people, you know, may have experienced working on similar sets. they may have known some of the people who were on that set, and as several people told us. you know, this is a brotherhood and sisterhood and the death of one impacts all. we spoke to one woman who is the location coordinator in the industry. she wasn't a part of the "rust" film production, but she told us she quote, knew, everyone in the room and she got emotional thinking of this tragic killing of helena hutchins and also the lack of safety procautions on the set. take a listen. >> i just hope all this talking does something. i hope that my talking with you
gets amplified and we -- we get the changes that we need for a safe set. i'm sure you know we were about to strike this past monday for safer conditions, and if the world didn't believe us about what's going on, maybe they believe us now. >> people should be able to go home after performing their job. >> yes. a child should have a mother. >> a child should have a mother. she's, of course, referring to helena hutchins who was killed. she was the mother of a young boy living there with her husband in l.a. with their young son. several people expressed a concern about the lack of safety measures on this particular production. in fact, i interviewed a hairstylist on the production of "rust" and she said she backed out over negotiations in part because of rate negotiations and also in part because of safety concerns. she said that the crew or that
the team told her that it was a non-negotiable on housing, and the concern about housing was that the crew members were being housed in albuquerque 50 miles away from the set. that meant very long hours, a lot of drive time, a lot of safety concerns. fred? >> all right. lucy kafanov, thank you so much. still so many questions. i want to bring in dutch mashic and ask him a few questions. he's the former president of the former entertainment union local 44 and prop master who has worked in the film and television industry for decades. he's currently working on the hbo sires "euphoria" and hbo is, of course, owned by warner media, the same parent company as cnn. so good to sigh, dutch. >> hi, fredericka, thanks so much for having me at this really hard time. >> it is a hard time. i know, especially for helena hutchins' family and, of course, the whole family of the
movie-making industry. so many of us don't really know all the intricacies of what it is to make a move, a film, and so we hope you can help us out here. so much does go into the making of a film. so much time, some care and so much preparation, so how could something like this happen in your view where a gun is fired for a scene, for rehearsal and then someone dies. >> and i just want to pre-face this by saying hollywood really is a family. hollywood sets the standard and worldwide people watch us. we haven't had a gun death in hollywood in 28 years and that's for a good reason and that's because we're a very, very safe industry. everything we do is checked and checked and checked, and we do -- we deal with very actually dangerous things. you see the car crashes in the movies that are real. people standing on a mountaintop that are real, kayaks,
motorcycles and firearms are real and it's that level of real that gives authenticity to the show. we so so many safety checks in place for firearms in place. safety bulletins that come down through the industry, and the armorers are very cautious about handling the ammunition and the guns. we block out each scene very carefully before they film. my understanding from this situation is this was during a rehearsal, so we rehearse often again and again when you're dealing with firearms before you load the gun, before you actually go hot as we call it, and -- and it's -- it's unconscionable that that gun, one, was hot at all with a blank but much less with a live round. that's the question on everyone's mind right now is why was there live ammunition on a film set because that is absolute taboo. we've been filming for 100 years, 100 years using blank ammunition and it's been proven safe again and again and again. the show that i work on right
now "euphoria," sam levenson, the show run and director demands authenticity. every "t" is crossed and "i" is dotted and we use real firearms whenever possible, and whenever there's a firearm brought out on set he makes sure there's an actual arm oher, not just a prop person or crew person but an arm oher with the gun to make sure that we're at the utmost of safety and we block every scene and we know in advance where the actors are pointing, when they are going to pull the trigger and where the cameras are placed and the safety procedures also extend to the camera department. it used to be you had to have an operator on the eye piece, on the lens and a focus puller next to the lens. two people right next to the cameras, but with the current technology, when we film scenes, oftentimes we can put a camera on a remote control and have an operator 10, 20, 30 feet away looking at a monitor and a focus puller working on a remote head and there's nobody next to the camera when it's being fired.
>> and i know, dutch, you were not on the set of "rust" when the this happened on thursday, but can you give us an idea of when you have a rehearsal involving a firearm, again, we don't know all the details about, you know, the weapon or whether indeed there were live rounds or if this is an accident as a result of blanks. we just don't have that concrete information, but can you give us an idea at this juncture generally when there is going to be a rehearsal, because i have seen reportedly that this was a rehearsal for this scene, to. what are the steps that might take place before the gun is even hand to the actor? mean, you mentioned the arm oher, but there are quite a few people involved, is that the case, to handle this weapon, double check and triple check before the actor gets it even for a rehearsal? generally speaking the actors will rehears dialogue and won't
even find their marks and then they will walk through and do a blocking rehearsal so the actors will find their marks here and figure out where they want to put the camera and will rehears that with no guns at all. if the scene requires it we can give them an empty gun or cold gun if we have to but generally we rehearse with a cold gun or dummy gun and then we block it out with the entire crew. the department heads will watch the blocking and see where the actor standing and where the camera is going and then they can come in and do the lighting and shape the light and figure out where the microphones are going and then when absolutely is ready, the very last thing we do. the arm oher will go in, make the gun hot mean loading the blanks into the gun, offer it to the actor. the actor has an opportunity to inspect it. the first a.d. who runs the set has an opportunity to inspect it and then we'll say we've gone hospital we'll roll camera. they will film. they will finish the scene and the very first thing that happens after that is the arm
oher will go in and take the weapon and clear it and call it out before everybody mothers and make sure it's safe and then they call the set clear and do whatever job they need to do. the information that we're hearing that has come through the affidavits is that the first a.d. himself picked the gun up off a cart without supervision of an armp armorer, hand it had to alec baldwin and didn't check it. turned out to be the worst case scenario, a loaded gun with a bullet, and the first a.d. noose business taking anything off a cart and handing it to an actor. that has armorers beside themselves, why an a.d. would feel compelled to do that and my guess is they are crunched for time and trying to get things done quickly and are cutting corners. when you're working 16, 18 hours a day, and a lot of the crew walked off that morning. the entire camera crew walked
off that morning citing gun safety. >> in fact, they had been doing extremely long days. >> apologize for interrupting. i was about to ask you about that the assistant director. you mentioned the a.d., the armorer, the sequence of events of handling the weapon and when about the prop master or is that interchangeable with the armorer because it seemed to be a lot of roles, different people who might have their hands on the weapon and then we still don't know if this was a live round. what was in this gun? >> well, the chain -- the chain of command is such that the prop master is the head of the department. they are ultimately in charge for the entire department, and many prop masters have their firearms permits and will run the guns on set, and they are perfectly entitled to do it, and on a larger show or if a prop master is not set up to do guns or not comfortable with guns, they will hire an armorer who is that is their entire job, to only deal with guns and
definitely on a larger show you specifically have an armorer to that. stay with the guns and keep the guns in their charge at all times. the cardinal sin is having live ammunition anywhere on a film studio or near a film set. >> yeah, why would that ever be appropriate? >> it's just speculation at this point. >> sure. >> my understanding is that the armorer, the young gal that was running the show. >> hannah gutierrez. >> yes. it was her second or third show as a sort of department head for the armorer. she may have assisted in the past. i don't know exactly what her history was, but this was one of her first shows to really be the bottom line, the department head, and her father was sort of a trick shooter, a wild west trick shooter and he would work with actors and teaching them, that sort of stuff. you know, and you're out in the desert in new mexico, everyone -- we're thinking of a hundred scenarios. maybe she showed trick shooting
with live rounds, we don't know. why were their live rounds. was the gun unattend and someone put a live round in? that's the mystery. we're waiting with bated breath why in god's name a real round. i did bring blanks if you want to see. >> we're right up against a break. >> this is a five in one round, it works in a lot of western rivals and pistols, and you'll notice the front of it is crimped, there's a little pinch in the brass and it's entirely inert so there's gun powder, there's a primer, it will spark and a fire and cause flame but nothing is supposed to come out of the barrel. so it's very obvious to an armorer the difference between a bullet and a blank. it's -- it's, again, when you're working the kind of long hours that they were, people are tired. they are stressed. the crew wasn't paid for three weeks, and a lot of them walked. the conditions were a perfect storm, but in hollywood we
literally expend millions of rounds of blank ammunition, i say millions, millions with an "m" that is safe every single day and do it day in and day out without a single injury. that's what i do for a living. we block it out, check and double check. this instance is it an anomaly that we should not compare -- it doesn't compare with what the standard checks are. >> yeah. >> we do it every single day all over l.a. and all over the country. >> it's extraordinarily sad. you made reference to okay, you know, ana gutierrez's dad, legendary, but, again, we don't know exactly what happened yet involving anybody, whatever decisions or anything just yet. the investigation is still in its infancy. dutch merrick, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. still to come, a halloween treat as parents anxiously await vaccines for their young children. the cdc director says go ahead and put on those costumes and enjoy the day safely and
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delta surge but other component is that if your did is vaccinated when you go for the holidays with the older parents, with the grandparents, they are much safer because then the kid is not likely to infect them. >> you're talking about -- the november and december holidays, but a lot of families want to know how to handle halloween. it's right around the corner. this is what the cdc corner walensky had to say. >> halloween is next weekend. it's outdoors. guess what. wear masks. we've been masked all along. i feel like we've been doing halloween for two years. >> right. >> so kids will be masked. they will be outside. i think halloween is totally safe. >> all right. sounds like your point of view mirrors that of the cdc director dr. with a helpsky. let's listen to her. >> whether people are vaccinated or not, as long as you're outside your safe. >> i wouldn't gather in large settings outside and do screaming like you're seeing in those football games, if you're
unvaccinated, the kids that run vaccinated but if you're spread out doing your tricker treating, that should be very safe for your children. >> okay. well, that's pretty optimistic, and as it pertains to the vaccine, we're talking about a third of the dose that adults might get, that kids would get, but we're still talking about two doses. >> still talking about two doses, yes. >> still quite a few player who are reluctant and they are vows. what do you say? >> well, the best estimate, there's 28 million kids that could be potentially vaccinated. people estimate that maybe 18% to 20% may not get vaccinated because the parents are reluctant. some recent data is real interesting. mothers are much more reluctant than parents to give the covid vaccine to their kids. i think as health care providers we need to talk to people and explain to them and hear about their concerns. i have learned that by one by one answering concerns and dealing with -- with questions -- legitimate questions that people have, you're likely to convince them
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e the search for answers conditions now that the remains of brian laundrie have been found in a nature reserve in florida. a forensic anthropologist is now examining those remains. let's bring in cnn's paolo sandoval. what more are you learning about this investigation? >> fred, remember it was last week that investigators recovered various personalize else along with remains of brian laundrie, and they include a backpack and also a notebook that was heavily damaged by water. a source close to the investigation telling my colleague randi kaye that that is being described as possibly salvageable so certainly hope
here in florida that that could provide some clues here. the fbi former director adding more insight saying that they do have fbi technicians that are able to recover some of that paper evidence so it's very possible that is in an fbi lab right now and investigators obviously trying to extract evidence from that, including fingerprints and perhaps even ink or writings that could shed more light on brian laundrie's feelings towards gabby petito, and as we've heard from experts, there's still so many pieces that are still mussing in this puzzle and with brian laundrie now confirmed dead, all of this evidence that's left behind is certainly going to be crucial pieces of this investigation as they try to put all this together, but certainly finding those answers, fred, is not going to be easy, and these easy that investigators have been trying to find but two families, one here in north port, florida, and one in new york and coming to terms with the reality that this may possibly remain an open case for some time until investigators can definitively
say who killed gabby petito. >> paolo sandoval. thanks you so much for the update. all the national attention on the gabby petito case has many families of color with missing loved ones frustrated by the lack of attention paid to their cases, including the loved ones of jillani day, the 25-year-old grad student missed missing in august. his body was found months later but wasn't identified until months later. his family is upset law enforcement didn't do more when he first appeared and then in arizona a 23-year-old geologist daniel robinson, well, he's been missing now for four months. he hasn't been seen since leaving a work site in arizona -- in the arizona desert rather in june. his family hired a private investigator to search for him after their disappointment with the effort of local law enforcement. a senior writer on race and
equality joins us now. so good to see you, particularly during the gabby petito case, we heard from a number of families of color who expressed their frustration. in the time that they have helped to raise the awareness of this kind of disparity of attention has anyone said that they are seeing any difference now, any movement in their cases, any great attention now? >> fredericka, no, and i think that that's part of the issue here. the families of black -- of missing black and brown people tell me that they remain concerned that are their missing loved one is not getting the fair attention or the spotlight placed on them. they are also concerned about police and the level of attention that police are giving their missing loved one as far as the investigations go. the mother of jillani day came out last week pleading for the
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who are women or girls who are missing in terms of a disparity in the interest or, you know, pouring the resources into looking for them? >> yes. so we have learned that that is a racial disparity in the number of missing black men who have gone missing. i spoke with the ceo of an organization called the black and missing foundation who tells me that she has seen a 50% increase in cases of missing black men just since august. that accounts for about 24 cases of 24 missing black men. she's seeing some similarities in the cases where the away donned car of the missing black man is found while his whereabouts remain a mystery, and it's unclear why. black men are being targeted in these cases which i think is frustrating. as a matter of fact, the ceo, she said to me i quote, it's very frustrating and very sickening to see this trend right now. >> it is indeed, and so what
are, you know, advocates, these advocates able to say about what is it going to take to change this, to -- to make it more fair and equitable in terms of looking for people, an equal interest in looking for people who are missing? >> so advocates and experts in families, they all tell me that they simply just want missing people of color to get the same level of attention in the media as missing white people. i think that just seeing the last couple of months, the level of attention that was placed on gabby petito, they want that attention. they want -- they want the same resources devoted to finding their loved one. they want their stories to be highlighted in the media as well. i heard from some families who say that they have actually gone to the police to have the police only label their loved one as a runaway or even criminalize them, not even take the case seriously, and i think the
concern for them that they are concerned about this -- this term that was coined by gwen ifill called missing white women's syndrome where white women are simply given more attention and there is just more attention placed on their investigations and their stories, but the lives and the cases of missing people of color matter, too, and the families just want that equality. >> thank you so much for for bringing this to everyone's attention and talking to us about it today. >> thank you. and we're right back after this. l to be rescheduled for the third time. orrr... you could use slack. and work faster with everyone you work with, together in one place. slack. where the future works. [ marcia ] my dental health was not good.
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all right. it's a major sticking point in moving some of president biden's key agenda items forward, the filibuster. here's house speaker nancy pelosi on "state of the union" today. >> i want you to take a listen to a key moment in which president biden was talking about voting rights in the cnn town hall with anderson cooper the other night. take a listen. >> when it comes to voting rights, just so i'm clear though, you would entertain the notion of doing away with the fluffier on that one issue? is that correct? >> and maybe more. >> so that is president biden saying that he is willing to entertain the notion of getting rid of the filibuster for voting rights act and maybe for other things as well. do you agree with him on that one issue that at the end of the day having some sort of voting rights bill is more important than preserving the filibuster, at least for that one vote? >> the most important vote right
now in the congress of the united states is the vote to respect the sanctity of the vote, the fundamental basis of our democracy. one vote that the filibuster could enable to go forward, that would be the vote. it would enable so much more because we're talking about stopping the suppression of the vote and the nullification of the elections. we're talking about redistricting away that's fair, may not benefit democrats but might open up some of the republican seats. it talks about stopping the big, dark, crushing special interest money and empowers the grass roots. >> all right. joining me right now. normalizen. he severed as counsel to house democrats during the first trump impeachment trial and esics czar during the obama administration and the former u.s. ambassador to the czech republic. good to see you and a professor of history at the history of st. thomas. good to see you as well.
professor williams to you first, you know, house speaker pelosi says voting rights is the most important issue in front of congress right now, and if it is going to be up to congress, it seems to be solely because the u.s. supreme court is not going to be able to tackle this. how critical is it in your view that action be taken by congress? >> it's absolutely critical, fredericka. in fact, this is high time for congress to take this issue on with regard to investigate rights. we saw this failure. this summer the expectation that senator manchin would be able to put together a bipartisan bill. that now has failed, and it's cleared that without dealing with the issue of the filibuster it's going to be impossible for the democrats to move this forward, but there's a larger issue here about frustrating the will of the american democratic process, and so i think that's the bigger piece. people should be concerned about looking at this issue and taking this issue on because if fundamentally restrict and pushes back the ability of the senate to do its job. >> ambassador eisen, does he
have to worry about the republicans because they have to acquiesce. >> biden does have influence and we're talking about changes, modifying the filibuster, not allowing the voting rights to pass. changes have been done repeatedly included by the then majority leader mitch mcconnell, so it can be done on 50 votes plus one for voting rights, and as professor williams said it is a must. the filibuster is not more important than our democracy, and our democracy is under attack. a voting rights bill will address that. >> theish 'uis the majority versus the filibuster 60. professor williams, two billy crystal things did happen in this past week. republicans did not vote in favor of holding steve bannon in
contempt for defying a subpoena by the house judiciary, the house select committee, the january 6th select commit and the failure to secure new voting rights legislation, so in your view is democracy as we know it in danger? >> i think ambassador eisen stated it very eloquently. it's under assault, and we're looking at a moment when we need to decide as a society and culture if we're going to fight back. american democracy has reached a critical juncture. the shadow of january 6th looms large when we talk about white supremacy and voting right. we know this is a major problem in communities of color and we have to see these issues as inextricably tied and we need to see action and leadership from the president on this issue. you're hearing some of that this week and i hope there's follow through because i don't think our democracy can survive more big lies or even the pretense to another january 6th. >> ambassador, how do you see it in the big lie has not gone
away. if anything, it seems to be -- the momentum seems to be gaining? >> fredericka, it represents a terrible threat, and one of the things that the freedom to vote act and the john lewis voting rights act, the two big voting rights bills that the filibuster must be modified to allow to pass, one of the things they would do is stop these terrible pieces of legislation around the country that literally, the worst of them, fredericka, they literally take the final choice for elected offices out of the hands of the voters and put them in the hands of the party san state legislatures. that's what trump and his lawyers wanted to do last time they were blocked. that must not be allowed. it won't be america as we know it so we've got to modify the filibuster to prevent that. >> and professor williams, how concerned are you about the urgency? >> you know, dr. king talked about the fierce urgency of now. i think that language applies to
this moment. with the mid terms coming up, with so much concern about what's happening in georgia and texas with regard to restrictive voting laws, we really need action now. i think this really is ground zero in a lot of ways and what we saw this week signals the need for immediate action on this issue, particularly with regard to the filibuster. >> ambassador, last word on urgency. >> fredericka, this is the moment, the coming weeks, and i do believe there will be a showdown on the floor of the senate on the flust. ier. our very democracy is at stake. the american experiment is being threatened by this vocal minority that the maga faction around the country. we must not let them proceed unchecked. that's why the filibuster has to be modified, not ended to allow voting investigate rights acts
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all right. here we go. the world series is set. and for the first time in 22 years, the atlanta braves are back in the game. here's cnn's carolyn manno. >> reporter: atlanta is on an incredible run, especially when you consider that the team lost its entire opening day outfield mid-season. and that included ronald acuna jr. the braves traded for four new outfielders at the deadline. that has sparked a second-half rally that has taken them all the way to the world series. one of those acquisitions was
eddie rosario who came up so big for the braves. once again, the dodgers could not figure out the series' mvp. he broke a 1-1 tie in the fourth. he was the most dynamic player of the series. rosario, 14 hits in the nlcs alone. that homerun there giving atlanta a 3-1 lead to the delight of the hometown crowd. atlanta's bullpen took over from there. they struck out ten over the five innings. the braves clinching, their first since the team's glory days back in the '90s. >> i can't say enough about this group. i was proud of them, they won the division. to get here, what they've been through this year, how they've hung in here. they've allowed themselves to be right here right now. >> the braves and astros meet for game one on tuesday night in houston. the astros back in the fall classic for the third time in five years.
but the two teams haven't faced each other since 2017. and, fredricka, this year's squads have some ties to each other. houston manager dusty baker made his major league debut for the players, spent nearly ten years there. baseball fans might remember that. and braves' manager's son troy is actually a hitting coach for the astros. so some friendly faces behind enemy lines. but everybody in the atlanta area and also in houston very excited about this matchup. >> i love all that history, love all that enthusiasm. carolyn, thank you so much. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm fredricka whitfield. the "cnn newsroom" with jim acosta continues right after this. ♪ (music quieter) ♪ (phone clicks) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. it's blood peen three days sinc deadly set on the accident. halyna hutchins, the cinematographer and actress accidently killed with a prop gun after being mistakenly told it was not loaded. hutchens was killed and the film's director was wounded. last night mourners gathered at a vigil for halyna hutchins. >> we were