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emergency? >> bonanza creek ranch. we've had two people accidentally shot on a movie set by a prop gun. we need help immediately. >> okay. bonanza creek ranch. stay on the phone with me. we're going to get some help. don't hang up, okay. hold on just one second. >> it sounds like somebody else is calling for two ambulances. better make sure -- everybody should be -- we need some help, our director and our cameraman, camerawoman has been shot. are they going to take them to the road? >> was it loaded with a real bullet or -- >> i cannot tell you that. >> okay. >> we have two injuries from a movie gunshot. >> okay. we're getting them out there already. just stay on the phone with me, okay. >> thank you. okay. no, no, no, i'm a script supervisor. >> how many people are injured? >> two. that i know of. i was sitting -- we were rehearsing and it went off and i ran out, we all ran out. they were -- over the id and the
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camerawoman and the direct -- and the director. they're clearing the road so they can come back. we're back in the town. what is it called? we're back in the western town. >> is there any serious bleeding? >> i don't know. i ran out of the building. but we need -- >> i still have to go through these, okay. are they completely alert? >> we don't know. i can't tell. >> hello. >> hi. i have a protocol of questions i need to ask if you can just answer them the best you can. >> okay. >> are they completely alert? >> yeah, they -- they are alert. >> okay. what part of the body was injured? >> i'm not sure. i'm not in there. >> that's fine. is there more than one wound? >> i think there's one on -- on two individuals. >> one wound on two individuals. okay. >> yeah. >> okay. i'm sending an ambulance to help you now. stay on the line. i'll tell you exactly what to do next, okay. >> as mentioned, there are many unanswered questions. cnn's lucy kafanov is working the story for us and joins us
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from santa fe. lucy. >> reporter: anderson, we've been told a search warrant has been issued for the bonanza creek ranch where the incident took place. sheriffs tell us they will be carefully combing through the property this weekend searching for clues and evidence. they say they do not expect to update us before monday. now, the da's office say they don't know at this stage whether any charges will be filed as authorities try to piece together how this tragedy could have taken place. >> tonight actor alec baldwin says he is fully cooperating in the investigation into the fatal shooting on the set of the movie "rust." >> bonanza creek ranch has had two people accidentally shot. >> reporter: officials say they're still in the initial stages of their investigation into what led to the fatal incident when baldwin discharged a prop weapon onset. director joel souza rushed by ambulance to a local hospital with injuries. the film's director of photography, halyna hutchins, was pronounced dead after being
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transported by helicopter to the hospital. police continued to interview witnesses and are looking into what type of projectile was fired from a prop gun, commonly used on movie sets that aren't without their own risks. >> prop weapons do have a dangerous factor to them, even though they're a lot safer than using a live firearm onset. >> reporter: 42-year-old hutchins, who posted on instagram from the new mexico location only days ago, lived in los angeles with her husband and son and was credited in the production of dozens of film, tv and video titles. today baldwin tweeting from the account he shares with his wife, there are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of halyna hutchins. i am in touch with her husband, offering my support to him and his family. these tragic accidents on movie sets have happened before. >> is that gasoline i smell? >> reporter: actor brandon lee, son of bruce lee, was killed in 1993 on the set of the movie "the crow" when a fragment of a
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dummy bullet became lodged in a prop gun which fatally wounded him. shannon lee posting on her brother ease twitter account, our hearts go out to the family of halyna hutchins and joel souza and all involved on the set of "rust." no one should be killed on a set, period. >> have we heard from the families of those who were shot? >> reporter: not joel souza who possibly is still in the hospital, but we have heard from the husband of halyna hutchins who spoke out to insiders saying, quote, i don't think there are words to communicate the situation. by all accounts the 42 year old was a rising star in the film world, but also just in, anderson, prior to thursday's incident, prior to the shooting, there had been new news reports indicating several crew members actually quit the production over concerns about safety, covid safety procedures but also
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apparently gun safety procedures. these are according to reports by "the l.a. times" and other media outlets, obviously we are trying to track that reporting in further detail. anderson. >> lucy kafanov, appreciate it. we want to have more on the reporting tonight from "the los angeles times." here is a passage attributed by "the times" to three people familiar with the matter not authorized to comment. i'm quoting from "the l.a. times." safety protocol standard in the industry including gun inspections were not strictly followed on the "rust" set near santa fe, the sources said. they said at least one of the camera operators complained to production managers about gun safety on the set. joining us now is "l.a. times" writer anoushah sakouy. thank you for being with us. what are you able to tell us based on reporting about the on-set conditions? >> i want to shout out to my colleagues mick james and amy kellogg who have been updating the situation. we have been all hands at it trying to confirm what has
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happened on this set. the information is parts but what we've been able to confirm is that about half a dozen camera cue workers walked off just before, you know, hours before this incident happened. they had actually turned up that morning to collect their gear and had witnessed other, according to our reporting others of nonunion crew coming to sort of replace them. that sort of relevant because obviously when a lot of hollywood production is unionized and with that comes certain training and qualifications and what not. so that is one of the big things, is that they -- the crew were unhappy, part of the crew were unhappy and working off. part of that was about gun safety misfires that some of the crew have reported, and also, you know, being asked to drive 50 miles from albuquerque to santa fe, which is something that is really a big issue for
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crew generally which is adding to long days and tiredness. >> was this a -- i assume it wasn't a big-budget film. it sounds like they were sort of, i mean if they're telling the crew to drive you know 50 miles instead of staying in santa fe, i guess to save money, do you know about the budget? >> yes, my understanding is that this is a low-budget movie, probably just a few million dollars. we don't obviously have the exact numbers. they fall under a different sort of category of contract that you know productions work on. they're different to major movies and, you know, that are made in tv shows in hollywood, and those require, you know, major contracts, require a certain amount of rest between days and so forth. actually, earlier this week you probably know there was going to be a strike over the terms of these contracts. that was called off because crew were offered by producers as
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part of a deal, you know, a guaranteed 54-hour break from what was zero. so you can kind of get an idea of the working conditions. you know, to my understanding these low-budget productions are not necessarily having to adhere to the same kinds of protocols. >> i understand you have learned more about the cinematographer who was killed and what she was advocating for in terms of safety on the set. >> yes. so halyna hutchins had been, as your reporters had said, a rising star and also, you know, rare to have a female cinematographer in the industry, you know, rising up and also doing genre films like a western. she had apparently been advocating for safety on this shoot, and, you know, i guess felt alone and left behind by her crew colleagues. she sort of stayed but she was obviously upset and in tears as has been reported by the situation before this fatal incident happened. >> it is just so awful for her
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family and everybody involved. anoushah, appreciate it. joining us now is larry zanoff with 59 films and tv shows to his name. we have cnn analyst laura coates. larry, i appreciate your time tonight. this is obviously still an ongoing investigation. there are limited details we have. just in layman's terms can you walk us through how prop guns are usually handled on film sets and the safety guidelines that should go along with them? >> of course. in the television and film industry the safety guidelines and protocols when handling firearms are governed by safety bulletin number one. the correct recommendations for handling of firearms and blank ammunition onset. that gives us all of the guidelines required for what we do with the guns, how we handle them, how they're stored as well
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as the blank ammunition, all of the protocols as well. there are very stringent protocols. the firearms are always under the control of the prop master or someone designated by the prop master, and that is usually the armorer, to be responsible for the firearms when they're onset. >> i mean have i come across scenarios where projectiles of some kind are found in prop guns? even if the prop gun has whatever, you know, they have that makes it look like it is firing a real bullet, is that something that can become a projectile? >> yeah, i have not personally myself come across a situation like that, and, of course, as you mentioned earlier we really don't know yet exactly what the situation was. so i hesitate to speculate on that at this time. >> what is normally in a prop gun? >> usually if you see gunfire
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onset, it is a firearm that is set up to shoot blanks. a blank is a form of cartridge where in the real world that cartridge would include a bullet or a projectile, which is the part that goes flying down range, a blank does not have that projectile. by design, it is created so that we can simulate gunfire. you can get the audible bang, you can get smoke and some flash coming out the muzzle, but no projectile is propelled down range. >> laura, you heard this "l.a. times" reporting about alleged concerns among some crew members about safety onset. again, we have no idea if that has any impact on what occurred. if it is accurate, i mean what are the potential legal liabilities here? >> you know, what a tragedy. it is so unfortunate to even be talking about this, but when i hear the words about complaints, the immediate legal term that comes to mind is notice, that
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somebody was on notice about unsafe working conditions. if that's the case, it can trigger a whole range of things in terms of civil liability, in terms of who was in charge of making sure that the workplace was safe, that whatever safety protocols should have been enforced or implemented were, in fact, followed. and if complaints were told or said that indicated there was a lapse of either due care or the normal course of due care you're supposed to expect, then you have issues. you also have, frankly, on the criminal side. nobody wants to try to introduce that. we understand why it is not -- you know, we don't know anything in terms of the intent or anything, but the law does recognize the idea of there can be some liability even in the case of an accident. now, new mexico does have a code, a statute that talks about excusable homicide. homicide, meaning death at the hands of another person. it doesn't necessarily mean intentional murder or premeditation, which we don't have any indications occurred here. but if it is a matter of misfortune they're talking about
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or accident, as long as the person was engaged in an otherwise lawful act and they exercised the due care that you would ordinarily expect, then you do have some ways to alleviate that liability. but there are so many concerns that have been raised, the reasons you have given, but really it comes down to what was known, what protocols were actually followed and whether due care was actually used. >> larry, with a prop gun, is there a certain distance between actors that's advised? you know, if it is going to be fired. also, even if it is not in a scene, would an actsor uor unde rules be handed a prop gun to just kind of hold on to or even during a rehearsal hold on to? >> yeah. so as far as the minimum safety distance goes, it is not advised, it is mandated. part of the protocols mandate that there's a minimum 20-foot
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safety distance between the muzzle and anything that could be harmed by any potential hazard. >> 20 feet, wow. >> due to the blank gunfire. there's a lot of different ways that you can film a scene. you can do it with long lens where the camera is actually much further away than 20 feet. if you, for whatever reason, had to be within 20 feet, you could put up a physical barrier, in other words a sheet of something that could actually separate the muzzle from anything that's in the danger zone of that 20 feet. so there's a lot of different possibilities there. as far as an actor not being in the scene handling a weapon, if the gun is not in front of the camera and it is not ready to be used in front of camera, it should be secured by the prop master or someone designated by the prop master, and that is usually the armorer. just before the scene is filmed
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the guns would be returned to the actors. >> larry zanoff, i appreciate your expertise and i'm sorry it is needed tonight in this circumstance, thank you so much. laura coates as well. thank you. coming up next, breaking news on the january 6th investigation. word that a central pusher of the big lie and a key figure in the scheme to overturn the election now has a date to testify. later, new reporting on facebook and january 6th. what the company's own analysis reveals about how it failed to halt the growth of the movement dedicated to the election lie. ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon roar from phone) ♪ ♪ i always protect my voice. it's how i make my living.
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executive privilege claim on january 6th-related documents. more now on all of this from cnn's evan perez, who joins us from the capitol. so what more do we know about clark testifying before the committee? >> reporter: well, anderson, this is a -- he is going to be testifying as a result of the subpoena that the committee issued. his former boss is jeffrey rosen, rich donoghue, the former-attorney general and deputy attorney general at the time, they testified voluntarily. and so, this testimony which we expect to happen next week really will give this committee a window into a central character of that drama that happened in those days -- those key days, the end of december, early january -- when trump was trying to get the justice department to weigh in on his side in these baseless claims that there was fraud in various states. and so, we know that clark was having conversations with trump. one of the things the committee wants to know is who was he working with besides donald trump, himself?
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some of the legal things that he was trying to do, some of the legal documents that he came up with. was he working with others inside the u.s. government? was he working with people outside? those are the questions that are at the top of the mind of the members of this committee. >> what about the upcoming hearing on the former president's executive privilege claim? what -- is there any expectation on that? >> well, yeah. so, this is going to be a big -- a big hearing, anderson, because i mean, look, after five years, you know, we keep talking about the norms that trump broke. this is another example of this. donald trump is going to go to court claiming that he has the right to intervene and try to stop some documents from being produced from the national archives to the january-6th committee. the current holder of the -- of the office, joe biden, has waived privilege on this set of documents and we have not really had a legal fight like this before. and so we are going to see what this judge does. we expect probably that donald trump will lose, at least in the
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first round, but it is not going to be over then. you can bet that he's going to try to appeal, and we will see what -- how this shakes out. >> evan perez, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> there's new reporting in "axios" outlining the extreme likelihood of the former president being the 2024 republican nominee. cnn political analyst and "axios" managing editor, margaret talev is shares byline. also, david gergen. advisers to both parties since the nixon administration. margaret, i want to ask you about some of your latest reporting that the former president is thinking seriously about running again. even going so far as to tell some of the people around him that he is running. can you just talk about more of what you have learned? >> yeah, anderson. i mean, i don't know whether donald trump is actually going to run again, whether he could actually get elected again given that he is still perpetuating a lie that the election was stolen. given his role in january 6th. but mike alan and i are hearing from people close to the president now that there has been a shift since the end of the summer till now, that they now believe it's definitely more than 50% likely.
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and another person told me this week that if the republicans win the senate, as well as the house next year, there could be irresistible to president trump. >> david, what do you make of that? >> i think the signs are just as margaret says. the signs are that he's increasingly interested. strikingly, anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees biden in trouble. during the afghanistan situation, he was really chomping at the bit. according to various reports he had to be talked out of it. now with biden's approval rating sinking into the low 40s and the pandemic still not over, that makes trump very, very hungry. i think it is going to take something hugely unexpected or a dramatic change in his health or prison sentence to stop him. >> margaret, the former president has been obviously endorsing, you know, loyalists who back his fraud claims around the country.
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he's still clearly pushing the big lie. i assume that would be part of his campaign. he can't stop talking about it and pushing it. is there any sign that it has cost him politically? >> you know, there's new polling this week, a quinnipiac poll shows am eight in ten republicans say they want trump to win. it is very early. it is too early to read anything really lasting into poll numbers. if you look at the overall numbers, a majority of americans definitely do not want him to run again, and a majority of independents even are against it, but that's not what primaries are about. primaries are about the base, and there are a couple of other factors. david is right, all of these things, afghanistan, bad jobs numbers, biden's numbers going under water but there are a couple of things to watch. one is the acceleration of this january 6th committee, one is the turnout at his own rally in iowa. the last part i would keep an eye on is really the intense
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republican anger are both the school masking rules and what is happening with the backlash against public schools teaching really anything about racism, against put under this umbrella of critical race theory, but it is not about a legal theory. it is lessons teaching children about the modern-day impacts of the legacy of racism. these have been galvanizing forces and that trump sees different opportunities, a different window for what a 2024 run could look like. >> also, your reporting has interesting reporting about mike pence. >> yeah, look, obviously trump is keeping an eye on everyone that could be competition for him. is it ron dose? is it mike pompeo? we know it is not nikki haley. she has said if he's on the ballot she is not going to run, but mike pence has notably not said that and donald trump is paying attention. could mike pence beat donald trump in a primary? no republican that i have talked to thinks so, but could he make it really interesting and what
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would he say? he was the vice president and an extreme loyalist until this breaking point around january 6th, and even now is careful in his critique and his criticism and the way he talks about it. so where is this all going? i don't know, but this is a subject of actually intense interest among trump and his allies. >> yeah, i'm sure. i mean, david, can you imagine mike pence running if the former president is running? i mean that seems hard to imagine. >> no. no, it does. it would be -- wouldn't it be a dramatic contest that all of us would follow with great interest? it would have a share skespeare quality to it. but mike pence has made it clear he doesn't care what trump is going to do, he will do what he wants to do. if trump gets in, fine. he would obviously prefer he not get in. i would suggest, anderson, it is time to keep an eye on republicans in the senate. there are many anti-trump rebellion that is sort of happening there, of senators that are really worried about
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losing the senate if this race can be turned into ultimately a contest about trump himself or trump versus biden. it may be that after a long, long period in which all of the republicans have been held hostage by trump that a few influential people will follow mcconnell and start challenging him. >> it is really interesting. you know, we talk about what impact it would have on turnout for 2022 that trump isn't on the ballot, but i think in a sense he is. his allies say he is much more likely to run if republicans win back both chambers, and we haven't seen it yet but i think we will see whether democrats are going to start leaning into that argument to try to turn out their voters next year. >> margaret talev, fascinating reporting. david gergen, thank you. breaking news on dissent within facebook in the wake of the insurrection. what some inside facebook were saying about the company's culpability leading up to the attack on democracy.
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busy night. more breaking news. what cnn has learned from internal facebook documents about how the company fell short in tamping down the so-called stop-the-steal movement that culminated in violence on january 6th. facebook spokes people touted their effort, but we're learning from documents internally it was viewed as a different story. cnn's donie o'sullivan has the report. >> reporter: on january 6th, facebook executives condemned the attack on the u.s. capitol but internally, some employees began to push back. facebook, they suggested, was culpable. one writing in internal facebook company chat, all due respect, but haven't we had enough time to figure out how to manage discourse without enabling violence? we have been fueling this fire for a long time and shouldn't be surprised it's now out of control. another wrote they were tired of thoughts and prayers from facebook leadership. there were dozens of stop the steal groups active up until yesterday another facebook employee responded.
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stop the steal, the conspiracy theory movement that helped fuel the insurrection, had been organizing on facebook for months. >> how did you guys hear about this event today? >> through facebook. >> facebook events, instagram. how have you been promoting this? >> well, i created a facebook event for yesterday's event. and i posted after the fact that we were, again, coming today. i will be, again, making another event in regards to tomorrow. >> facebook provided the fundamental coordinating infrastructure. they were sharing ride-share information. they were sharing resources. they were talking about, you know, what they were going to wear. and if they were going to have trump flags. >> reporter: we now know that an internal facebook report described the company's attempts to crack down on stop the steal has piecemeal. that document leaked by facebook whistle-blower, frances haugen, who spent her final months at the company photographing thousands of internal documents and company chat logs.
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. >> these documents are vindication that what we've been saying as a field has been true all along and that facebook knows it and could take action on it and decides not to. >> reporter: for many years people have been talking about the facebook effect, what facebook is doing to culture, to society, to politics, but we didn't really know from data from facebook whether these theories were true. what frances has given us is an extraordinary archive of material that helps us see exactly what's going on and what they know is going on, and it is the biggest and most important contribution to understanding this incredibly important problem that we have ever had. >> reporter: the leaked documents, many just becoming public, were given do a consortium of news organizations including cnn, form the basis of a complaint to the s.e.c. where
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haugen alleges the company misled investors and the public about its role perpetuating misinformation and violent extremism relating to the 2020 election and january 6th insurrection. >> facebook executives like nick klegg will say it is unfair to blame facebook for the insurrection. >> it's a red herring to say people are blaming facebook for the entire thing. that's not what is happening here. you can't at the same time be facebook and trying to take responsibility and being very proud of all the organizing work that you've helped black lives matter do or the occupy movement or standing rock. you can't take credit for all of that and then say, oh, that thing called the insurrection? we had nothing to do with that. >> reporter: another revelation from the documents, an internal memo including details of a facebook staffer setting up a test account to see what
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facebook's algorithms were recommending to users. 2019, a facebook employee sets up an account designed to look like a 41-year-old conservative mom living in north carolina. her name is carol smith. she likes a few page, she likes trump, she likes fox news, but in a week she is getting a qanon recommendation. i saw in there that after three weeks there was actually a recommendation for a page that was the three percenters, the militia, self-described militia involved in the insurrection. >> yeah. no, i mean, again, we've suspected this dynamic. >> reporter: yeah. >> what is striking about what frances has revealed is that we now know that facebook itself saw this precisely. so these are like potato chips that they feed to somebody who has got a potato chip addiction and that is the reality of the platform. it is an addiction engine and it profits the more it can manipulate us to consume what we want to consume most.
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>> how has facebook responded? >> reporter: yes, facebook stressing it wasn't just them, right? a lot of the content was on twitter and youtube, too. specifically, here is a statement from the company spokesperson. he said the notion that the january 6th insurrection would not have happened but for facebook is absurd. the former president pushed a narrative that the election was stolen including in person a short distance from the capitol building that day. the responsibility for the violence lies with those who attacked our capitol and those who encouraged them. he says facebook has a long track record of cooperation with law enforcement including the agencies responsible for addressing threats of domestic terrorism. but anderson, what's really remarkable and really is insightful about all of this is that test account facebook set up as a 41-year-old conservative mom living in north carolina. in the summer of 2019, like the few conservative pages on facebook, within a week, was being dragged down a qanon rabbit hole and within three weeks, was being recommended pages about the 3%er militia.
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>> fascinating. donie o'sullivan, appreciate it as always. up next, the latest on the identification of brian laundrie's remains. will investigators be able to determine a cause of death? plus, new information from the family attorney who says he spoke with laundrie before he vanished. gentle constipation relief in minutes. little fleet. big relief. try it. feel it. feel that fleet feeling.
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as you know, the search is over for brian laundrie, but there are more questions after the discovery of his remains this week in a florida preserve. laundrie vanished last month, of course, after his fiance gabby petito was reported missing but before she was found strangled to death in wyoming. the laundrie family attorney is revealing details while investigators try to determine how laundrie died. our randi kaye joins us from north port, florida. so talk about some new information you have about conversations laundrie had before he disappeared. >> reporter: well, anderson, i spoke with the laundrie family attorney tonight. steve bertolino. and he confirmed to me that he had two conversations with brian laundrie before brian disappeared. those took place on september 12th and september 13th. remember, gabby was reported missing on september 11th. so, these are key dates in the investigation.
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and then, on the 13th, is when brian disappeared. i asked him what took place during those conversations, what was said. he said that was privileged information and he could not tell me, anderson. >> what's the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: well, right now we don't have a cause of death, but we do know from the family attorney that brian's remains have been sent to a forensic anthropologist. remember, these were just skeletal remains. they were bones. he was identified by dental records. so this type of expert will really study these bones and, hopefully, come up with a cause of death and even a time of death, because the family lawyer is also saying that he had discussed with brian's parents the possibility that brian took his own life. so, of course, anderson, they are looking for some answers. >> and is anything known about brian laundrie's state of mind before he disappeared. >> reporter: well, there are some clues possibly in this notebook that was found along with his remains and some personal belongings. we know from a source close to the investigation, telling me that this notebook is possibly
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salvageable. we don't know what is in it, but it is possible he wrote something to give an indication of his state of mind or maybe about something that he had or hadn't done. the parents are not talking about brian laundrie's state of mind, but the lawyer is. he spoke to wabc and he was asked about brian's state of mind, and this is what he said. >> chris and roberta knew that their son brian was grieving. they knew he was so upset and, you know, they just couldn't control that he was leaving and he left. he walked out the door, and chris has said to me, i wish i could have stopped him but i couldn't. >> reporter: and the timing of this is key because if he was grieving on september 13th, remember, there hadn't been a homicide reported yet. gabby petito's remains hadn't been found yet, so what was he grieving about, what did he know and what did he share with his parents. the family lawyer was asked about that "good morning america" this morning, what, if anything, brian laundrie told his parents.
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here is what he said. >> that's not something that i can comment on right now, and i'd like to just leave it at that. >> well, if you can't comment on it, it means you know something about it. >> well, i think everybody out there knows that, you know, whether the family or myself have some information to share, but, you know, there's not much we can say at this point in time. >> reporter: and the laundrie family lawyer was asked on "good morning america" if the laundrie parents had any message for the petito family, and he said, "we have absolutely nothing to say with respect to the gabby petito incident." anderson, back to you. >> randi, appreciate it. coming up, what pfizer is saying about the efficacy of its vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. plus, a private school in florida where students who got a covid shot are told to stay home for 30 days. coming up next, what our gary tubman discovered when he talked to parents about why that is. you could spend half an hour preparing for the half hour status meeting.
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ages 5 to 11. on tuesday an fda advisory committee is scheduled to meet to discuss whether the agency should grant emergency use authorization for shots for that age group. children 12 and older can already get it and for students at one miami private school, a strange vaccine mandate is in place. any student who gets a shot must stay home for 30 days. the problem is it's based on bogus claims. the florida department of education sent a letter to school officials telling them they should review their policies and conform to florida law. gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: oscar has a son who goes to miami sentinel academy. >> it's a family decision. we should respect everybody's privacy. >> reporter: it is a family decision but it makes everyone safer. because so many people have gotten the vaccinations, tens of thousands of people are not dying. >> there's a lot of people getting the vaccine that are dying right now. >> reporter: that's not true. >> fox news says it's true. >> reporter: but it's false.
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that's the problem. let me just tell you, sir. the greatest scientists in the world know that this vaccine is saving lives. so my question for you -- >> it's not the best scientists in the world, it's just one opinion. >> reporter: you're hearing bad information, sir. but with all good respect, i wish you good health. >> thank you so much. have a great day. >> reporter: alex serrano has three children that go to the school. when you got the letter that said children would have to stay home for 30 days, did you say to yourself, i'm glad they sent that out? >> yes, and i thanked them for it. >> reporter: parents say the letter banning vaccinated children returning to school for 30 days also declared children who got the vaccine could potentially transmit covid to other children, which is certainly not true. the owners of this school are a woman and her husband who, this spring, after they sent out another email declaring that
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teachers who get vaccinated can't come near the student, she told cnn -- >> there are all sorts of evidence and stories that came out that said potentially unvaccinated people are being impacted by being around vaccinated people. >> reporter: there is no such evidence. their academy has one building for preschool students and kindergarteners, a second building for first through eighth graders. most of the students aren't yet eligible for vaccines. but they soon will be. one child who soon will be is the daughter of this woman who pulled their first grade daughter out of the academy last spring without getting any of their tuition back because they got more and more scared of the increasing anti-vaxx and antimask views at the school. >> the school encouraged the students to take their masks
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off. >> reporter: and they told your 6-year-old daughter, take your mask off? >> yep. >> reporter: did your daughter told me about that? >> she told me. she says why are you teaching me this but the school is doing this. >> reporter: you must have been infuriated. >> it was a very stressful time. >> reporter: the academy is a nondenominational school. records from the federal election commission show both owners donated very large amounts of money to republican candidates and organizations. for example, both of them made separate donations to the trump victory committee in 2020. their donations? a half million dollars apiece. leyla is active on social media, conspiracy theories on her instagram account including this strange one declaring, they told us the sun would give us skin cancer but in reality the sun prevents skin cancer. of course that's untrue. neither owner would talk to us this time around but some of the parents say they respect and admire her. however many parents have pulled their children out. their respect, if it ever existed, gone.
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>> you don't indoctrinate. you educate. and much of what's happening there is indoctrination that follows her beliefs. >> gary joins us now. the letter from the florida department of education to the school, what's the school's response? >> the department of education told the school it needed to respond by 5:00 eastern time today. drum roll, it does not appear the school responded. i can tell you the department of education says its investigation will be thorough. if it shows that student rights were violated, they say the school could be punished, which could include the stripping of scholarship funding and as of now there is no evidence at all, no public evidence, that the school is worried. anderson? >> gary, thanks. up next, the supreme court's decision to act with some but not all deliberate speed on the new texas law banning abortions after six weeks. this is worth. that takes wealth. but this is worth. and that - that's actually worth more than you think.
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the supreme court today set november 1 to hear a challenge to the texas law barring abortions at just six weeks, before many women even know they're pregnant. the court acted quickly today but did not put the law on hold, leading justice sotomayor to write in a stinging dissent, i cannot capture the totality of the harm in these pages. she pointed out that even though the court had agreed to fast track oral arguments, that would offer, quote, cold comfort to women in texas seeking abortion care. just last month the court agreed to allow the law to go into
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effect in a divided 5-4 order released late at night on the court's emergency docket. the news continues right now. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> thank you, anderson. i'm chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." we now have the newly released 911 call in the fatal shooting involving actor alec baldwin on a movie set in santa fe, what he's calling a tragic accident. i'll play you the 911 call. but really the freshest information to help us understand the questions being asked by investigators are in the search warrant that literally just came into my hands as we went on the air. here is the 911 call. >> what is the location of the emergency? >> bonanza creek ranch, we have two people accidentally shot on a movie set by a prop gun. we need help immediately. we need some help. our director and our