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all right. let's get right to "don lemon tonight" with the big star d. lemon. >> i can't imagine how this family feels, the lady who was killed on the set. how the man's family feels who is in the hospital, and alec baldwin. i mean, it's just a tragedy, tragedy all the way around. >> and it should have never happened. >> think of the history of the movie business. this is the second time this
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way. there is a third one, john eric -- >> he put a gun up against his head. >> right. >> and the blast ability and burn ability of a blank was enough to cause him a mortal wound. brandon lee, this is the same thing. >> i saw his sister on your show. >> somebody confused the ammo. look, let's start with what is obvious. there is no reason for bullets on a movie set. it's make belief. but they are real guns. and sometimes people use them and forget about murder inte intentions. target practice. now you have an issue with custody and chain of custody and responsibility of the amm ammunition. somehow a real bullet got into a movie set weapon. the other issue is you're trained as our expert said who
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is also a former homicide detective to never point a weapon, even in the movies at somebody else. you don't do it. we don't know what alec baldwin did that. >> we don't know the circumstances because they could have been blocking and said point here. >> we know it was blocking. because he was rehearsing a scene. there was no other actor. he was working with the d.p. and director setting up the shot, maybe he was pointing it directly at the lens and who is standing next to the camera. >> behind the lens. >> that to me, there is a lot of people racing down the road of that degree of negligence about where he was pointing the gun. i don't think we have any reason to believe that. >> we don't have a reason for people to be capitalizing it politically, which i've seen. in this case, equally as awful as -- >> politicians are using it who don't like alec baldwin. tell you what, i didn't understand any reason in any of the early media accounts to talk about this guy.
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not like he's my best buddy or don to me. i'm actually friends with his brother, not him. but -- >> i'm friend with alec and his wife. >> i'm just saying, the idea in describing this is alec baldwin like people don't know who he is. have to talk about his run ins with police in 2014. >> we don't have to go there at all. >> why would you suggest that as a journalist. >> i got -- >> in this society brother they have to figure it out. >> we have to talk about the warrant and a weapons expert, a weapons master coming up to explain what could possibly have happened. thank you. i love you. i'll see you this weekend. >> lord willing. >> this is "don lemon tonight" and of course, we have the breaking news that we're talking about on the investigation of the horrible tragedy on alec baldwin's movie set where authorities say the actor fired a prop gun killing the director of photograph er halyna hutchi.
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can you imagine how everyone involved here feels? everyone. there is no need right now to run down the road of what could have, should have and start to capitalize on it or make jokes about it. it's awful. it's a tragedy. so stop it if you're doing that. as i said, we have the afford for a search warrant and what it says really is stunning. i quote one of the prop guns was then grabbed by the assistant director dave halls and took it to the actor identified as alec baldwin inside the structure. as the assistant director handed the gun to actor alec baldwin dave yelled cold gun indicating the prop gun did not have live rounds. the prop gun was fired by the actor alec baldwin striking the cinematogpher halyna hutchins
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and joel souza. dave halls did not know live rounds were in the prop gun when he had given the prop gun to actor alec baldwin and the chilling 911 call is out tonight, as well. it reveals more details of what happened in the frantic moments right after that shooting. >> ems, what's the location of the emergency? >> banasa creek ranch two people were accidently shot on a movie set by a prop gun. we need help i'm mmedimmediatel >> stay on the phone. we'll get help. don't hang up. was that loaded with a real bullet? >> i cannot tell you that. >> okay. >> we have two injuries from a movie gunshot. >> okay. we're getting them out there already. stay on the phone with me. okay? >> okay.
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no, no, no i'm a script su supe supervisor. >> how many are injured? >> two. >> they were doubled over. the camera woman and the director. we're back in the town. we're back in the western town. >> is there any serious bleeding? >> i don't know. i ran out of the building. >> i still have to go through these, okay? are they completely alert? >> i don't know. >> so investigators will search the property on a ranch in new mexico this weekend where the movie "rust" was being filmed. the new mexico occupational health and safety burro says it's also investigating this incident. and the l.a. times and others reporting tonight prior to the shooting several crew members quit the movie due to concerns over conditions and safety issues including gun safety procedures. now alec baldwin breaking silence today saying he is shocked and saddened by the
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tragic accident and is fully cooperating with police. the d.a. saying it's unclear whether charges will be filed but not the first incident someone was killed by what were supposed to be harmless guns on a movie set. actor brandon lee, you've seen it in chris' report, the son of bruce lee was killed while filming the final scenes of the movie "the crow" in 1993 after being shot with a prop gun later found to have been improperly loaded. alec baldwin's co-star talked about his gun training on the set of "rust" just last week. >> they had me pick my gun like all right, what gun would you like? i was like, i don't know, the armor was like you have gun experience? [ laughter ] >> what's a gun? and i was like, a little. and she's like okay, this is how you load it. this is how we check it and make
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sure it's safe. she's like okay, i'll put blanks in there and go and fire off a couple rounds towards the hill. i was like okay. i put the belt on and put the gun in there and walked out and she's like just make sure you pull the hammer all the way back and aim at your target. >> so there are really so many questions about what happened on that movie set and we're bringing in experts tonight to break it all down. you want to hear from the gentleman that we'll hear from shortly is amazing when it comes to this. knows everything about this and what could have gone wrong. what did go wrong? what is the safety protocol? what is supposed to happen? was there a live gun onset? who is responsible? we have an expert how prop guns should be handled and in the face of this tragedy because that's what it is. a terrible tragedy. why are some on the right tweeting about it say grotesquely? i won't give the satisfaction of
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showing the tweet but j.d. vance is a senate republican candidate used the death of halyna hutchins to suck up to the president, the former president calling to be let back on twitter because he said we need alec baldwin tweets. the last thing we need. and then there is lauren bobert and her tweet saying if alec baldwin was a conservative cele celebrity, people would be calling for his head. a woman is dead. all we need is more disgusting mean spirited tweets. who does that really? i mean, who does that? no shame. no humanity. no empathy. just like what they did with colin powell trying to use his death to raise questions about vaccines capitalizing on tragedy. capitalizing on tragedy. capitalizing on tragedy. the faith and family values crowd. really?
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disgraceful. whatever happened to empathy? whatever happened to being a human being. so much for christians, as they say. family values. let's bring in senior editor. thank you for joining us this evening. the srk circumstances are awful. our affiliate obtained the warrant, the assistant director handed alec baldwin the prop gun and yelled cold gun meant to indicate there were no live rounds in it. the assistant director didn't know live rounds were in the gun according to an affidavit given as part of a search warrant. what else are you hearing here? what went wrong? >> what went wrong is the chain of who is responsible for this? for someone to say who is responsible for the gun they didn't know there was live ammunition in the gun? you have to check the gun before
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you hand it to the actor. the other question is why was there live ammunition in the gun? you know, the big thing is prop gun, a lot of people think that means a toy gun, that it doesn't actually work and can't actually hurt you or it only shoots rubber bullets. it a real gun. what is prop about it is the gun powder that's in it and the power that that gun powder gives the gun so i think there are so many questions here of who was training to who is handling the gun and where was that gun before it was handed to alec baldwin? >> you know, they're out in the desert. is it possible, i guess, it is that some people -- listen i don't want to speculate or go too far field but people were using it as target practice or using live rounds to shoot target practice and maybe forget something in there? i don't know. >> i mean, obviously, someone put a live round in there for whatever reason, i don't know target practice. did they go hunting?
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were they rehearsing? why they would be rehearsing with live ammunition, i don't know. a human being put live ammunition in a gun that should not have had live ammunition and then they told the actor alec baldwin it's safe, it cold, you're okay shooting this prop gun. >> the los angeles times and other media reports that crew members, that they quit production due to conditions in safety concerns including gun safety protocols. listen, everything is being investigated. you have reports. if that is indeed, does that sound like a red flag to you? is that a big red flag? >> there are a lot of red flags about this story coming off of the tension that just happened between the guild that represents all of the people behind the camera, all of the protection people whose job it is to take care of all of these things to hear that there was safety concerns right after this guild threatened -- came very
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close to shutting down hollywood from the strike because of safety concerns. so right here is an example. now, what people need to understand is that this was not a big production. this wasn't a disney movie or paramount movie. this is a small independent scrap film that had a lot of issues going into it just hours before this gun was fired. >> yeah, you talked about groups. so unions reacting tonight? are they saying anything? >> unions reactsed ed right awa saying they understand the prop master whomever was responsible for this gun was not a union member, that there weren't issues onset between union members and the production. so this is -- what we're going to see, unfortunately, in all of this tragedy we're also going to see a lot of lawsuits there is going to be a lot of legal issues. insurance companies. there is a lot of financers on
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this movie because it's a small independent production and a lot of different companies feeding money into it. of course, we know alec baldwin was a producer on the film. >> i want to put up these photographs of alec baldwin taken after the incident. he appears obviously, he is distraught. who wouldn't be. tell us more about what you're hearing from alec. >> what we're hearing from him are his tweets that said he's in touch with her family, that he -- there are no words to describe how he's feeling and let's be honest. like you said before, people are politicizing this. there is no politics in this. this is hollywood movie making. it was make believe. it was pretend that went really bad. i can't imagine what is going through his mind. i know that people on the set are in shock. the guilds are bringing in people to talk to the people onset who witnessed this. all they were going to was to witness a rehearsal and see them block shots and they witnessed the most unthinkable tragedy.
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>> halyna hutchins, her agency said she's a ray of light. she has a husband and son. >> what is wonderful, this was a second career for her. she started off as an investigative journalist from the ukraine. graduate of afi. we just reported that afi set up a scholarship for other women in her name already so you can start donating to that and the thing that we're getting from her friends and her colleagues is that she loved what she did. that she would do anything for that great shot. that she -- you look on her instagram and she's throwing beautiful photos of sunsets and actors in costumes. she had a wonderful eye. it's visible for a cinematographer and again, i
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just keep going back to the words of unthinkable tragedy. >> yeah. she put out on social media as i was going through our social media the great thing about working in the desert is you get to ride horses in your off time and it just seems to be an amazing personality and great person according to everyone who knew her and worked with her. thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. if you get information, please let us know. >> thanks. here is the question that everyone is asking tonight and that is how could something like this happen? i know a lot of people in the movie business and they're stunned. they don't know how this can happen. the protocols are so tight. how could this happen? i'm going to bring in an expert that will demonstrate exactly how prop guns should be handled safely. you don't want to miss it. that's next. anks for coming. now when it comes to a financial plan this broker is your man. let's open your binders to page 188... uh carl, are there different planning options in here?
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several members of the crew quit because they were concerned gun safety rules were not being followed. those are reports. what went wrong? brian car tepenter is an armor weapons master in the film indust industry and he joins me now. brian, did i get that right? >> that's correct. that's right. >> thank you so much for joining us. okay? appreciate it. everywhere i go, everyone wants to know whether it's online, whether it's however, they see me in person, how did this happen? how did this happen? how did a live round end up onset in a gun? i know that you have industry co-workers working on a movie set nearby that told you and heard the rescue crews and sirens responding to the emergency. in your professional opinion, what do you believe could have happened on this movie set, brian? >> you know, from hearing what i've already, you know, been on news and through your reporting and what not, you know, it's really hard to sit back and
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armchair quarterback something like this but obviously a live round was fired and if a live round was fired out of that weapon, then obviously it had to be introduced on the set somehow and there are multitude of safety protocols to prevent that from ever occurring. there shouldn't be but two types of rounds on a set at any given time that is a blank round. >> can you show us? >> sure. absolutely. this is a blank round. and this is what one looks like. it has a crimped top and it has gun powder in it and this would probably be about the size of the caliber that was used on a period piece, a western right here. >> okay. >> that is one type. that's if the director wants to see the actual muzzle flash and fire come out and hear the noise, et cetera, and depending on what type of flash they want a little one or a big one, depending on the type of that blank cartridge, how much powder it has. the other type of cartridge that you regularly find on a movie
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set is a dummy round. for all intentive purposes, this looks i dent kill to a real round. the only way you tell the difference is you, number one, shake it and when you shake it, it has bbs inside of it and they put the bbs inside of it instead of gun powder so you can audibly and physically feel that's a dummy round. any other time you look at that, it looks like a real bullet. you get those from reputable prop houses like iss, they make them and prep them and make sure there is no propel lengt whatsoever, one in the cartridge and the primer. both have to be removed so there is no chance of detonation and then the projectile, which is actually on the top of the bullet, that's what leaves the barrel in a real weapon and fires out of the gun, that is put back in and the bbs are inserted. shake it, hear it, see it. those have to be checked. and that's for close camera
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work. when the director wants to see the weapon up close or they want to see an actor loading a weapon or in a period piece like this the gun they were probably using if it was pointing directly at camera, they want to see the realism of having the round in the cylinder that you can actually see it on those old guns. >> do you have one similar? or -- >> we do. >> okay. how is it -- can you show us that? and how -- >> absolutely. >> what usually happens with this type of -- with a weapon before it gets to set? can you show us and hold it up, please, higher, if you can. >> sure. so this is a period piece. it a weapon that would have been used in any western you would have probably seen, a very simple gun. the gentleman you had an earlier when he was explaining and describing the fact that some of the modern guns have restrictors in the barrel that keep gas pressure from escaping so they can function semi auto and fully
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auto. in modern movies, that's not prevalent on these guns. these guns do not require a restrictor because it's manually operated. when the actor wants to fire it, they take the hammer and caulk it back. it doesn't require back pressure to fire. >> how do they check it, brian? >> to check it, we would go onset, we would open the side of the latch on the cylinder and because -- due to safety here, we'll turn it down. we would have the weapon pointed down, take a flashlight, shine it up in the barrel inverted and through the cylinder, you would see there is no obstruction in the barrel, nothing in the barrel. then all the cylinders would be checked and shine a flashlight in there. once we identify and confirm through two sources, at least onset, which is usually always the actors, anyone that's being -- this weapon is being pointed any general direction of and then the first a.d., the director sometimes, d.p.,
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depends on what set you're working on and what relationship you have but at least two sources of verification the weapon is cold and at that point in time, the armorer would hold onto the weapon until it's time for the scene to be shot. at that time you open it, load it with the charges, be it either a live -- when i say live, i mean a blank round or if it's not going to discharge, a dummy round and at that point in time, right before the camera rolls, sound, you walk over there and hand off the weapon to the actor and then call hot weapon onset, which is repeated on the radio. >> but they said on this one, they said cold. what did that mean? they said they heard -- >> well, so if you're using -- like one of the misconceptions of most people is these weapons are props and sometimes i've been onset and they're handling a weapon like a prop. in other words, they treat them
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like they're a rubber gun or they're a toy gun but they're not. they're 100% a functional firearm and if you load a round in, it will fire it just like a regular weapon would. so having said that, you know, we -- if it's a weapon that's cold, that means that it is the actual firing weapon with no rounds in it whatsoever. and sometimes an actor wants to use those for rehearsals, for the field, the wait, being able to use the mechanism of the gun and just general look of it and that's okay and acceptable but again, you have to make sure the weapon is truly cold, which means there should have been no rounds in there period. and especially if it's a rehearsal, you know, again, i'm not by any means trying to second guess what happened because the investigation is in the process and i'm sure they will have a very detailed report but for any professional owner, myself included, i would make sure any rehearsal, there is no sense in having anything in a
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weapon. >> can i ask you something? you said you check it at least two sources look down the barrel or up with a flashlight. do you ever go out and clear it to make sure that it is clear? to shoot -- >> well, actually, there is no need to do that on this type of weapon. the revolvers have a very clear open cylinder to easily see inside of it and make sure there is nothing there and the chamber can be checked with a flashlight. very rarely there are weapons that are incapable of being checked like that. they would have to be a complex machine gun or belt fed weapon or something that would be difficult to check, otherwise, especially revolvers are very simple. >> yeah. do they need to make changes here? because, you know, after brandon lee, there was supposedly many safety protocols that were upgraded and changed. do you think there still needs to be more? if you look at the history of the entire movie business, these two -- this is two out of a very
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long history but still, a life is a life. >> you're right. of course. and i would like to also say my heart felt sympathies go out to everyone involved in this from the alec baldwin to the poor family of the people that -- the lady, the d.p. that lost her life and the director and all the crew that was involved in it. it's such a tragedy and something that you hope like you said can be avoided by making sure that safety is followed. having said that, yes, one of the things that i have always pushed for and other professional prop masters that i work with who, you know, know exactly how this all should go and they follow those protocols because they've done it a long time in their profession and studios that understand that when you hire an armorer or prop master, you need to vet these people out and make sure they're certified to do this and they didn't just work on one film two
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weeks ago and all of a sudden they're an armorer and the knowledge, experience and wisdom most importantly to handle a dangerous item onset there is three departments that can cause loss of life quickly, stunts, effects and armor services and those three things need to be attended to and any time you have a chance to educate someone or educate an actor on the proper use and handling of this, time needs to be taken to do that. it doesn't need to be rushed through. it needs to be a thing that is implemented on all sets. >> brian carpenter, you have really educated us and we really appreciate you joining us. thank you for taking the time to explain to our viewers what should, how it should be handled. appreciate it. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. so alec baldwin says he's cooperating with police. is the actor in legal jeopardy? we'll talk about that. that's next. and now, putting you in control of your financing. at carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget,
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the assistant director supposedly didn't know any live rounds were in the gun. they've been prepped for -- prepped by an armorer. who is legally liable here? >> lots of questions, don. first of all my heart goes out this this young woman, her family, her son, her can't imagine the tragedy. nobody should have a gun with live ammunition and pointing it at someone. we know alec baldwin didn't have an intention to harm. for the assistant director ha ever to hand a gun to alec baldwin with live ammunition and say he didn't know raises questions about supervision and gun handling procedures on the set and some of the information that's coming outlooks horrible. information that the whole process was rushed. that this was a low budget film.
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some of the union workers walked off the set, non-union workers on the set and halyna complained or standing in unity with workers that felt like safety protocols were not being followed onset. there are a lot of issues that took place on this set before this tragic accident occurred and i think as this investigation happens, i would not be surprised if there are not criminal charges and we definitely can expect to see civil claims filed. >> yeah, you talk about civil claims, right? because you believe that will happen. alec baldwin is not just an actor. someone handed him a gun. he had no idea what was happening here. but he's also a producer on the movie. in a court of law, does that mean any more responsibility or liability here? >> well, definitely. as you're pointing out, he's not just an actor, he's a producer so that gives him responsibility for the operations that happen
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on the set. when we think about civil lawsuits, we can think of a list of people that may be named as defendants including this assistant director that handed him the gun, the armor on the set whose job it was to make sure there were proper safety procedures in place. the producers, the directors, maybe the gunman manufacturer. as we learn more about the tragedy, we can expect to see settlements, potentiall ly earl settlements and compensation paid to her family. in the state of new mexico there are statutes that allow for excusable homicides, so there is a possibility when investigators look at it they say there is no criminal culpability here but there is also the state of new mexico something called a depraved indifferent homicide. so i would no be surprised if we didn't see some charges filed against someone that's responsible for this woman's death. >> again, still early on and we have to wait to see how this investigation plays out but you
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can just see the anguish in alec baldwin's face. the pictures that we have. he's doubled over. he's crying. i'm sure he's on the phone with someone trying to explain. i mean, i can't even imagine. obviously, it's a tragedy for the young lady and her family but also, you know, you are just doing your job and all of a sudden, someone is dead for something you've done over and over and over again. >> as an actor, don, you know, he's relying on the team there. he's relying on the crew and people that get paid to handle these matters to not just hold safety meetings but make sure safety protocols are followed. so to think that someone hands you a loaded gun, you fire it and as a result, there is a death and someone else is injured has to be so horrific in terms of the emotional state of mind that alec baldwin is and everyone that witnessed it. not just alec, there was so many people on this set. >> yeah. >> so everyone has been impacted
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the house speaker nancy pelosi is hopeful congress will vote next week on president biden's sweeping agenda. some thought there would be a deal by monday but as the president laid out in the town hall, they are still n negotiating. >> so far, mr. mansion and one other person is indicated they will not support free community college. >> you're also proposing for the first time ever federal paid
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parental leave. at one point you talked about 12 weeks, now there is reports it down to maybe four weeks. >> it is down to four weeks. the reason, they can't get 12 weeks. >> one of the other things democrats are looking to do is expand medicare to include dental, vision and hearing. will all three be covered? >> that's a reach. >> so mark mckinnon joins me now, he's a former advisor to george w. bush and john mccain and executive producer of "the circus." hello, sir. by the way, 100th episode. congratulations on that. >> thanks very much, don. >> this is a very critical moment for president biden. he needs to get the bills over the finish line and remarkably candid last night detail iling t is in and out. is that the right strategy to sell the plans? >> i think he needed to do something to change the equation and he was a lot more specific last night on individual items as you had in the clip there.
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so i think that's encouraging but the problem is this has been a problem of great expectations that hadn't been met. i mean, first of all on covid and second the economy and third, the great fdr style, lbj style legislative domestic agenda that would be so transformative. so you just have these huge expectations from the general public and democrats specifically on the legislation. first of all, what is in it and second of all, when it will happen. people thought let's have it now. i understand you need the hammer sometimes to get people to move but the problem is nobody has moved yet and from all that i can gather reading the tea leaves, i'm not sure it will happen next week. once again, democrats in the country are exhausted and by the time this thing goes through, it's going to be late and damaged and not nearly what people thought it would be and
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so it's just a tough road right now. >> senator kyrsten sinema has made it really clear she won't support any tax hikes on corporations so senate democrats are looking at a billionaire's tax that would raise hundreds of billions of dollars off of the richest of the rich. 700 million people in this country. sinema is optimistic about negotiations. does that show how much pressure she's under? >> yeah, i mean, i'm for that tax. that would be fine. it gets back some of the money we've been giving away to them all these years under the trump tax cut but the question i ask is that, you know, she seemed to have these sort of hard paid fors in mind and it seems like why didn't we hear about it before? it just seems like okay, you just figured this out now? i know you got your spread sheet
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in front of you and you're super smart on this. if you had a hard life, couldn't we have heard about that two or three months so ago so the democrats don't seem to be held hostage. >> president biden said he's open to altering the filibuster to pass voting rights legislation. this is up to the senate and as of now, doesn't seem like mansion and sinema are on board with that. that's a shot across the bow to republicans. >> i have some strong feelings about this, don. i think it's such it doesn't have practical value at this point. republicans will do what they do. they know how to use power and use it in a hard core way. democrats need to learn that lesson. and i haven't in all my years, 30 plus years of it, i've not heard give me my filibuster. they don't care about the philler buster. ma we saw last night was the most encouraging thing i've seen generally and specifically on the filibuster, which the thing
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is he needs to keep it to get sinema and mansion on the two bills in front of him. he needs that behind him. it looks clear once those are done, i mean, he needs the votes on those and then he'll g to the filibuster which is by the way, mansion is the one who said he wanted to on the voting rights stuff said he didn't want to look at the fufilibuster becaus he thought he could get ten votes. he didn't get one. they can go back to mansion and say okay, joe, you thought you would get ten, you got zero. one last thing, it's pretty clear and we'll talk about virginia in a minute but looks clear to me there is big headwinds for democrats right now that joe biden has got about a year left before he can do anything and after that, it's going to be republicans will be at least in control of the house and then maybe the presidency after that. there is a very tight window so i'd say get the filibuster the heck out of here. >> speaking of, you got a new episode coming up has to do with
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virginia. terry m terry mccaull here it. >> we're not letting him bring anti woman, anti choice trump stuff. trump wants to use this to launch the 2024 campaign. he's basically said that. he's endorsed six times. trump is looking for anything to lift himself up and this would be a big win in the commonwealth of virginia. >> mark, i got to say, great episode. you should watch. you're 100th episode. i can't let you respond because we're out of time. we'll see you soon. have a good weekend. thank you. he pushed a lot of conspiracies and lies and he's being called to testify. another trump ally heading to talk to the january f6th committee. stay with us. orrr... you could cancel the meeting and share updates in slack instead. it's where your whole team is in one place so everyone can stay up to date. slack. where the future works.
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so we have news into the investigation of the january 6th insurrection. jeffrey clark, the justice department official that helped push the big lie and help the then president try and overturn the election. clark will be the first trump administration official to compile with a subpoena for an interview and as someone in touch with trump in the days before the january 6th insurrection, he could have a lot to say. according to a senate report, clark floated plans to give georgia's legislature backing to undermine the popular vote results and recommended holding a press conference announcing the doj is announcing allegations of voter fraud even though there was absolutely no evidence. clearly, jeffrey clark knows a lot and we'll keep you posted
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how this unfolds. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues with a cnn special report "gabby petito and the hunt for justice."
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good evening and welcome to the cnn special report. i'm randi kaye in north port, florida. gabby petito's disappearance and death has captured the attention of the nation and it's been a fast moving investigation. just this bweek, human remains were found here at the carlton reserve and according to the sarasota county medical ice examiner's office those remains have been identified as brian laundrie. the manhunt for brian is over but there are still so many questions about gabby's death. over the next hour, we'll explore their relationships ups and downs, potential warng


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