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my younger son, it is my job to protect him. you worry am i the weak link, am i the weak link that will bring covid into the house because i'm im im im im immunosuppressed or immunocompromised. my son has been awesome in protecting himself and protecting his dad and i'm grateful to him. and i just -- i wake up every day making sure i do my part. >> we're so glad, john, you are doing your part. we're so glad that we now know. i'm vaccinated, which means the next time i see you, i hope you'll let me give you a hug. >> amen, brother. amen. >> thank you very much, john. i appreciate you speaking up. >> after we win game five. >> on to important things, let's win game five. john, thank you so much. >> no problem. thank you. >> i'm so moved by what he said. i hope other people are as well. i want to continue now with our breaking news overnight. president biden is prepared to make major concessions to get
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his sweeping social spending bill over the finish line. kaitlan collins is reporting that biden discussed a 1.75 to $1.9 trillion price tag. that's much lower than the $3.5 trillion that had been pushed by progressives. and that he is willing to remove free two-year community college and make major reductions to climate provisions, to paid family leave, and the child tax credit and funding for home care. let's talk about this now with california democratic congressman ami bherra. he met with the president yesterday. how close are you to a deal? >> thanks for having me on, brianna. i sense the president's optimism that we need to get a deal. we didn't get everything we wanted in there. you touched on some of the things that we got to compromise on. i think it is now time for us to get something done. we'll have a caucus meeting in about an hour. i hope everyone comes together
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in that caucus. and we put a bill together and vote on this and the infrastructure bill in the next week or two. >> in the next week or two? >> i hope so. i hope we get something done on climate change. that would be my hope that we get this done before the end of the month. >> as i mentioned, you were in this meeting. i wonder what the president said that convinced you and other democrats now is the time. >> the president talked about how far he's been negotiating with senator manchin, senator sinema, senator sanders. the progressive caucus of the democratic coalition. at the end of the day, though, you got to get 50 votes, got to get 200 votes in the house and this is the best deal we can come up with and let's get this deal, let's move forward, let's keep working on other priorities. we're not done here. >> did he say outright we're not going to get more than this? >> he said this is probably the best we can do. there is still a little bit of
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room for negotiation, many of us would like to see us go bigger on climate change. this is what we can get, you know, let's get this bill passed, let's keep moving forward and working on our other priorities. >> among the trims, paid leave is reduced from 12 weeks to 4 weeks. does that hurt women? >> i think it does. i would like to see it closer to 12 weeks. i would like to see additional child care benefits and the like. because the workforce is increasingly feminine. let's support those workers. if that's what we can get at the starting point, let's get that and let's keep working on getting into eight weeks, 12 weeks. >> where are democrats on agreeing on the climate change provisions? >> i think a lot of us have some disappointment. i get senator manchin's state of west virginia, but i also understand the trends that we have to continue moving away from fossil fuels. i would prefer us to move faster. i prefer us to move to cleaner
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electricity. and so forth. but if we can't get senator manchin to agree to this, let's take what we can, let's get the stuff that we can agree on on climate change and keep moving forward. >> does carbon capture have to go? >> you know, i hope there is some form of carbon capture in there. i would love to seeing some on carbon pricing, those are very effective tools to reduce carbon emissions. again, i think there is some room to negotiate with senator manchin on this that, you know, it is not going to be nearly as big enough for us to address the challenges. >> so overlap, yes. between joe manchin and ami bera. are you confident that there will be overlap between say, joe manchin, and alexandria ocasio-cortez on climate change? >> i think there will be some disappointment. i talked to some of my progressive colleagues on the floor last night. they were presented the same data we were presented. all of us are are going to be
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disappointed in some areas. but we can do something big for american families, american workers, as you mentioned the women that are are a big part of our workforce. this is a good bill that has big effect and it is a start, not an end. >> the progressives you've been speaking to, are they on board with these cuts? what are they saying? >> you know, again, a lot of us wanted to see a bigger bill. we think it would have more impact, we think now is the right time to do it. there is disappointment all around, but there is also some really good things in here. and, you know, this is a big step forward. i think the progressives are going to support it. i think the new coalition will be in support and i think we can get something big then. >> all right, we'll be watching, big week ahead here, congressman ami bera, appreciate you being on. >> thanks, brianna. cnn exclusive, president joe biden taking questions from the american people. anderson cooper moderating a cnn presidential town hall with joe biden and this begins tomorrow
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night at 8:00. so major new developments in the investigation into the january 6th insurrection. house select committee voted unanimously to recommend charging former trump aide steve bannon with criminal contempt of congress. and more than that, republican liz cheney in the strongest terms she has used yet raised the possibility that both bannon and trump were in on the planning for january 6th. >> based on the committee's investigation, it appears that mr. bannon had substantial advance knowledge of the plans for january 6th and likely had an important role in formulating those plans. mr. bannon's and mr. trump's privilege arguments do, however, appear to reveal one thing. they suggest that president trump was personally involved in the planning and execution of january 6th. and this committee will get to the bottom of that.
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>> remember, bannon said this the day before the capitol riot. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it is not going to happen like you think it is going to happen. okay. it the going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say is strap n the war room, a posse, you have made this happen and tomorrow it is game day. so strap in. >> a vote from the full house on charging bannon is expected tomorrow. joining me now, anchor of "early start," laura jarrett, also a legal reporter and lawyer in her own right, and cnn senior political analyst john avlon. john, i want to start quickly with what liz cheney said. she went further than i heard her go before, saying the committee has evidence that steve bannon had knowledge of the coming insurrection and likely she said was involved in
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the planning and this is based on evidence that she says she has seen. >> that's right. and just based on the reporting we have seen to date, that clip of bannon, the video clip is enormously revealing. because he's saying this isn't going to go down the way you think it is. and there is a glint of knowledge in his eye. we know from reporting that trump and bannon were talking. we know that trump was pumping up this rally for weeks beforehand. is this them acting as hype men and what did the president know and when did he know it? we need to get to the bottom of this. this information needs to come out. >> but it is also why they want us to so desperately know what was going on at the war room in the willard hotel. everyone was holed up there. that's where bannon is going to run into trouble legally. his communications with rudy giuliani and other trump allies in that room have no connection to executive privilege whatsoever. so he cannot shield those communications at all. and that's, of course, the
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subject of his contempt charge. he completely flouted not only his deposition, but all the documents, all the records, all the stuff that has nothing to do with the former president, he can't get around that stuff. there is no question he's going to lose on that part. >> by the way, planning an insurrection or foreign knowledge of an insurrection wouldn't be covered by executive privilege by any definition either, which is why i think liz cheney may have brought it up there. >> perhaps. she is sort of just dropped that bomb and left it there. and everybody else on the committee as far as i can tell doesn't seem to want to touch it. adam shift doesn't want to touch it, the chairman doesn't want to touch it. i'm sure she'll be asked in her next interview and maybe she'll elaborate. >> trump's legal team trying to file for an injunction to stop the national archives from turning over records that the committee has asked for. which the archives says it will do on november 12th. that moment is coming. the trump team asking for an injunction. tell me about what's going on
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here. >> the thing to note is the timing is critical as you point out. as of right now, the national archives is set to produce these documents without a court order. so if a court is going to act, they need to act quickly. watch for the judge that this case is in front of, judge tonya, a district court judge in d.c. and she does not play around. she'll move quickly. she'll ask the parties to come in right away, hold a hearing, ask for briefs from the justice department and trump's lawyers and she could rule before november 12th. we may see action on this pretty quickly. >> we got precedent with regard to not the insurrection, but the nixon tapes, questions of presidential privilege after being in office. this judge is significant. she's tough on the insurrectionists. this is a delay tactic by donald trump. there are precedents for ex-presidents not having executive privilege if the current president doesn't support it, which the biden administration doesn't, and --
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>> the supreme court never weighed in on a feud between presidents, have they? >> in the post watergate cases, this has come up. they said you do a balancing of the interests here. if the current president isser ats thaasserts, that matters mo than what the former president said. >> no matter what this judge rules, will this get to the supreme court and the supreme court might want to weigh in. there has never been a case where a current incumbent president says no, or says something opposite to what the former president says. >> the supreme court is going to weigh in on that, though, john, they have to act quickly. otherwise they have until november 12th. once the genie is out of the bottle, it is too late for the former president. >> as someone who deals with the national archives, these are -- these papers are the property of the american people. they're not owned privately by the president and consistently what we're seeing is this trump playbook of trying to delay and
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apply frivolous lawsuits and all that. the underlying issue is apply the law. apply the law. this is going to be pressure on merrick garland, the question of supporting criminal contempt charges which was done successfully during watergate, less successfully during the 1980s. but this is a -- you want an issue of precedent, precedent is an attempt by a sitting president of the united states to overturn an election and execute a coup. if we don't enforce the laws in this circumstance, to ensure maximum transparency, that is setting up the next insurrection attempt. >> all i'm saying is watch the supreme court. because once -- if the -- they may want to grant an injunction temporarily while they decide this. >> they may. but they have to act really quickly. it has to go up through this judge and then the court of appeals and then the supreme court. it can take a while. >> john, laura, thank you very much. amazing, miraculous, both would apply after a plane ran off a runway in texas, struck a fence and went up in flames. 21 people, everyone on board
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survived and most did so without even so much as a scratch. cnn's rosa flores live for us at the houston executive airport. rosa? >> reporter: brianna, good morning. officials here saying that this is the best outcome that they could expect because everybody survived. here's what we know from authorities. about 10:00 a.m. yesterday, 21 people were headed to boston for the red sox/astros game, according to the water county judge. what happened is this plane started rolling down the runway, it didn't gain altitude, it never took off, it kept on going through a field. it struck a fence, was disabled and it erupted up in flames. all the passengers according to authorities were able to get out of this plane safely. this included a 10-year-old. authorities say the two individuals are transported to the hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. today we're learning more about the owner of this plane, a houston executive, the founder of a construction company.
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and through a spokesperson saying that they're dpgrateful everyone is okay, everyone is fine, they're working with the faa and the ntsb. the ntsb telling me a team will be arriving today here on the scene. the ntsb is the lead investigating agency. the faa will be assisting, but, brianna, the headline here is that despite those dramatic images, everyone is safe and sound. brianna? >> truly amazing. fast thinking there. rosa flores, thank you. this morning, race is taking center stage as jury selection continues in the shooting death of ahmaud arbery. ahmad' ahmaud's father will join us next. the white house is expected to roll out the plan to vaccinate millions of children in america. stand birx . who do some trump supporters blame for the insurrection? >> oh, antifa, the corrupt fbi,
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that they've always been. the world's been waiting for what you do. in moments, day three of jury selection will commence in the murder trial of the men charged with killing ahmaud arbery and race is at the forefront of jury questioning in this case against three white men, facing multiple charges accused of chasing down and
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killing arbery. a 25-year-old black man who was out for a jog in brunswick, georgia, on february 23rd of last year. let's speak now with ahmaud arbery's father, marcus sr., and his attorney benjamin crump. thank you for being with us. i know this is an incredibly difficult process for you and your family. how are you feeling about the jury selection process so far? >> i just pray to god we get the right jury. i'm just concentrating on the justice for my boy. and scared for my family. my son getting blasted like that by three white men that ran him down. >> you say it is a lynching. >> yes. >> yes.
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anybody that sees that, it is a lynching. all you got to do is watch that video. >> so, ben, the judge in this case actually rejected a jury selection question that was notably allowed in the george floyd trial about whether jurors oppose the black lives matter movement. what do you think the effect is of that? >> well, i think this video is so compelling, brianna, that regardless of how they want to try to reference it, you know that race was a motivating factor and three men, this lynch mob as mr. arbery say chasing his son down for over two miles, shooting and killing him in broad daylight and you can't have this and in 2021 and we understand it. lee merritt and i were talking about that to ahmaud's family, they're going to try to attack
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his character, they're going to come and say something, they're going to say the fear of a scary black person to try to justify this unjustifiable killing that that video is clear. >> marcus, is this judge will consider whether to introduce or allow prosecutors to introduce evidence of the vanity license plate of travis mcmichael that is a confederate flag, potential jurors are being asked if they see the flag as a racist symbol. what do you make of that question and the others you heard so far? >> well, i think it is a true fact. you can see that, what that flag stands for. that's the kind of group he supports. and, you know, his family is racist. ain't no way around it. it is the truth, you know. if you aren't racist -- if you need a -- >> ben, how pivotal is that decision by the judge going to
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be? >> well, again, brianna, i think the video is the most important witness here. so you can look at that text messages, and you see the racial overtones in their mentality. i still believe the video -- you think about this is almost ten years after trayvon martin where another young black man was killed by a citizen and had racial implications. but there was no video in trayvon martin's case, and ahmaud arbery there is a video that everybody can see with their own eyes what took place and we believe that is why we're going to get justice for ahmaud ar arbery. >> marcus, there is a video in this case, and there is also a national reckoning on race. how much do you think society has changed since the trayvon martin case? >> not much.
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you know, the same thing still going on. you know what i'm saying, it keeps repeating because they don't want to bring no change. that's why we keep fighting hard, try to bring this change. you know people are still suffering the same way. they do it in a different style of way. >> you know, marcus, as these men accused of killing your son are in court, what is that lake for y like for you and your family? >> i just can't -- i can't explain it to you. to sit in that courtroom, with three -- you know how they murdered your kid, i can't -- i don't want to say it on tv like this, it is wrong. it is hard to look at them with that much hate in them, to do a 25-year-old kid like that, had a long life ahead of him to live,
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and it is wrong. >> i'm struck by what is taken from you and your family. like you said, your son was so young. and i wonder how you reflect on that. >> 25 years old, he still had his whole life ahead of him. i don't live some. i wish i would have been in his spot. they would have gunning me down like that. that's hurtful. i got grandchildren. my other two children, i don't got none from him. they didn't give him a chance to bear nothing for me and his mother. that's hard. and i'm thinking i -- this is 2021 and this is still going on. we got to find a way to stop this. that's why we come straight on justice and so men can be put away for the rest of their life, so we don't have to worry about
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this, so black people can heal, black people are not going to heal with this stuff keep going on. we the ones that need to be in fear. we're not killing y'all. >> marcus arbery sr., we're going to be tracking this case very carefully and we appreciate you and, ben, we appreciate you as well coming on this morning. thank you, both. >> thank you. we do have some breaking news here that new york city is announcing it will mandate vaccines for all city workers. this includes police officers. we'll the city's mayor joins us live with the breaking news. and a fox news anchor speaks out after his covid diagnosis. why he's striking a different tone from some of his colleagues when it comes to vaccines. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indidicators of brain performan.
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let's keep making a differene together. breaking this morning, new york city mayor bill de blasio enacting a sweeping new policy that will require all city employees to get vaccinated
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against covid by the end of the month. and that includes firefighters and police officers. joining us now, new york city mayor bill de blasio. mr. mayor, thank you very much. i said all. there is different timing on some city employees here. but basically you're making all city employees get vaccinated. tell me about this. >> john, my job is to keep new yorkers safe. and the vaccine is what does it. the vaccine is what has allowed us it fight back against covid and save tens of thousands of lives. and there is still a lot of city employees who are not vaccinated. i want it protect them, i want to protect their families, i want to protect all the people they come in contact with in the city. look, law enforcement has borne the brunt of covid. this nation the last two years, 460 law enforcement officers have been lost to covid. we got to protect them. this vaccine mandate allows us to do that. >> i was looking at the figures, about 70% vaccination rate among new york city police officers and people who work with police. 30% unvaccinated. that's a large number.
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you say you need to get the shot within the month. >> the city employees not yet vaccinated, we think 46,000 is the number. that's a lot of people. think about their families, think about everyone they come in contact with. look, we're fighting this war against covid still. let as's not kid ourselves. the difference now if you get vaccinated, we'll save tens of thousands of lives. if you don't, we're going to lose more who could have been saved and we won't get out of this morass. from my point of view, want to see everyone safe and i know vaccinations work. i know it. and every time we put a mandate in place, it has worked. our teicherype of teachers and employees, 96% vaccinated. healthcare workers, 96% vaccinated. the mandates work. every mayor in america, every governor, every ceo of a company should do the same thing so we can end the covid era. >> you had more success with getting people vaccinated with
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the mandates, but police officers look at what is happening in chicago. you're at 70% now. can you afford not to have 10 or 15% of the police force not available? >> i don't think that's what's going to happen. i don't. we're saying to our officers we need to protect everyone. here's a fair rule. for months and months, purely voluntary. then we said get vaccinated or get tested. we tried that for a while. it helped, didn't get us far enough. now we say here is a mandate. we're giving them an extra financial incentive, by the way, additional $500 per person to get vaccinated. that's helpful. we're saying, get vaccinated, stay on the force, help us, help lead us out of the covid era. we're asking our public servants and first responders to do what they do best, lead us forward, help us out of the covid era. if they choose not to, they go on unpaid leave. they have a chance to correct. here is an interesting fact in our schools, 3500 employees who originally said, nope, i'm not getting vaccinated, in the last
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two weeks they have come back, got vaccinated, resumed work. going without a paycheck is a burden. but we would love people to get it right the first time or if they don't, fix it, come back. >> want to ask you a question about an investigation into you and your presidential campaign run. the doi said that you basically owe the city more than $300,000 for use of the police force and security. the mayor has not reimbursed the city for these expenses personally or through his campaign. >> look, i put in an appeal earlier this year, and said every mayer in the history of new york city who has gotten police coverage went all over the country did political work, government work, whatever, they got police coverage, were never asked in fact to have to pay for
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any of it. the mayor of new york city is one of the most prominent officials in america, we're in a tough moment of history, whether it is terrorism or political violence, the nypd said to me it is crucial to have coverage at all times. they never said we have to pay for coverage in certain situations. so i put an appeal that said can we get this rule straight and clear because historically it always has been the first question is how to protect a public servant and their family. we're going to find out what happens there. i'll follow the law, whatever the final decision is. >> there is no question that a public servant and the family in this case, the question is it appropriate at times. a security detail went with your son to do common errands. >> the security team and i listened to the nypd, they set the rules, they said whenever we can cover him, we want to cover him. he was very prominent himself, very well known. they said we need to protect the whole family. whenever the younger people in the family accept security coverage, we want them to. that's the decision of the nypd. what the report missed is what
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was the understanding of the nypd had of security, why did they set the rules they set, the top official, the top security official of the nypd was not even interviewed for the report. which i don't understand. i don't think it is fair or accurate to not talk to the security experts in making the determination. >> if you have to pay, will you pay? >> of course, i'll follow the law. >> a statue of thomas jefferson is being removed from city hall. this is not your decision to be clear. >> yes, i'm glad you clarified. >> do you approve of the decision? >> i have very mixed feelings, i want to be honest about it. thomas jefferson, one of the greatest figures in american history. and one of the people who created a lot of the values we live by and still cherish. on the other hand, he did something that he knew at the time was wrong, was a slave owner. that's unacceptable on the measures of today, even back then people knew it was a moral sin. for folks who say they have mixed feelings about him. i understand that. our city council felt, they didn't want that image in their
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chambers, they wanted something else. there is lots of great new yorkers that can be honored in that space. as we come to an understanding of our history, we got to be able to say someone did something great and someone did something wrong at the same time. we have to have that honesty. >> not a decision you would have made? >> i honor his larger contributions. i'm troubled by that part of course of his history and he was too, we now know. he intknew it was wrong to own slaves. >> mayor bill de blasio, thank you for being with us. appreciate it. happening today, paris hilton goes to washington. a very serious mission to fight to change an industry she says caused her physical and psychological abuse as a teenager. we have new details ahead. and why democrats' decision to drag fellow senators manchin and sinema may not pay off after all. your reality check is next.
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there could be major movement toward a deal on the president's domestic agenda. major new footing for kids, the elderly, family leave. there are compromises, compromises that have been made to placate moderate senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. so what's the larger significance of these two senators for the democratic party? john avlon with a reality check. >> with the self-imposed halloween deadline ticking closer, democrats will soon find out if it is trick or thrreat. progressives are frustrated. they have seen their initial $6 trillion wish list cut down to $3.5 trillion, and now according to president biden's latest statements, $1.9 trillion. yes, they made a lot of concessions to two centrist holdout senators, joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. take a step back and you'll see it is really a concession to political reality. because for all the liberals fdr and lbj era ambitions, the reality is those folks enjoyed
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massive democratic majorities in the house and senate. by contrast, joe biden's margin is as tight as can be. 50/50 in the senate and just eight-seat lead in the house. to get a sense of how precarious this is, get this, since jimmy carter, first midterms under a new president averaged a 28 seat loss in the house to the opposition party. not only that, despite biden's 7 million popular vote victory margin, house democrats actually lost 13 seats after their 41-seat blue wave win in 2018. all of which is to say that democrats need to win more swing states and swing states to gain a stable governing majority going forward. this leads to logic that progressives won't like. democrats need more joe manchins and kyrsten sinemas, not less. or they need more red state senators like john tester from montana, shahrod brown from ohio. the cook report called tossups
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in pennsylvania, wisconsin, north carolina. as well as projecting battles in states like ohio, georgia and florida. now, here's the catch-22 that democrats confront and how they can solve it. to begin to win back rural and red state voters, democrats need to show they can deliver on economic issues that improve the quality of life in those communities. while sidestepping culture war issues like the disastrous messaging of defund the police. this is where the biden infrastructure bill can bring real results. polling suggests these bills and many of the specifics are really popular. for example, in a quinnipiac poll found 65% in support of the infrastructure bill. the survey found 61% support
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raising taxes on folks who make more than $400,000 a year, which pay for the bills, without adding much more to the deficit. now, typically the broad popularity of these proposals make it easier for moderates to support them and many of the policies crucially would benefit rural communities, where, for example, child poverty is much higher than in urban areas. progressives can take some solace from the fact that even with the reduced price tag, these are big bills by any measure. it is far more than the signature first year bills of the obama and clinton years combined. b failing to pass the agenda could compound the democrats' problems by disillusioning their base and sending a message of dysfunction to swing voters. democrats want to pass a more ambitious agenda going forward, they need to win more seats and they're not going to do it by doubling down on the berkeleys and brooklyns of the world. they need to built results that
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resonate with moderates in the middle class and swing states and more rural voters in red states. and that's your reality check. >> maybe focus about what's in the bill, not what's not not in the bill, right? >> that's right. >> john, thank you. the breaking news, liz cheney saying that she has seen evidence that shows it is possible that steve bannon had foreknowledge and likely she says even helped plan the january 6th insurrection. details ahead. plus, a trump rally in iowa gets the daily show treatment. >> wasn't q's whole thing is that trump would be reinstated? >> never left. no doubt in my mind, 150,000%.
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time now for five things to know for your "new day." president biden ready to make big concessions to get his social spending bill passed. he's discussing a $1.75 to $1.9 trillion price tag. he may be willing to remove free community college while acceptingaccept ing reductions for climate and others. the ntsb will be on the scene of a plane crash near houston. all 21 people on board the boston bound flight survived after the plane ran off the runway on takeoff, hit a fence and erupted into flames. and jeff fortenberry has been indicted on charges of lying to the fbi. this stems from an investigation into $180,000 in illegal campaign contributions from a nigerian billionaire of lebanese
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descent. fortenberry is expected to appear for an arraignment today in los angeles. so her heart will go on, but celine dion won't. the singer announced she's postponing a return to her las vegas residency to deal with some health issues. she says she has been unable to perform because of muscle spasms. her new show was scheduled to open november 5th. and today paris hilton will be on capitol hill advocating for changes to the troubled teen industry. she will be attending a news conference with congressman ro khanna and other abuse survivors and welfare advocates to discuss a bill of rights for children placed in congregate facilities. >> those are five things to know for your "new day." more on cnn and, and don't forget to download the 5 things podcast every morning, go to neil cavuto tested for
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positive for covid-19. he said this, while i'm somewhat stunned by this news, doctors tell me i'm lucky as well, had i not been vaccinated and with all my medical issues this would be a far more dire situation. it is not because i did, and i'm surviving this because i did. joining us now is brian stelter, cnn chief media consultant and anchor of cnn "reliable sources". this is such a contrast between neil cavuto's statement and then the comments from some of his fox news colleagues. let's listen to that first. >> we're seeing data from europe, the united kingdom, fully vaccinated people are being hospitalized and fully vaccinated people are dying from covid and here we have a high profile example that will require more truth, more truth from our government, from our health leaders as well. as we talk about this story, on a day when state after state and institution after institution are pushing mandates for
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vaccination. >> i'm going to listen to the guy whose life depends on electronic i think. >> me as well. we learned about cavuto's diagnosis when he tested positive on monday evening. we doesn't report on it until he decided to share it. i think it is important he comes forward and shares this and says to everyone, i hope everyone gets the message loud and clear, get vaccinated for yourself and for others. this is coming on the same day our colleague john king shared his news about multiple sclerosis. both men have ms, both immunocompromised. john said i'm glad we work in a building where everyone is vaccinated. cavuto deserves the same thing. the vast majority of people at fox are vaccinated. some are being very loud about opposing mandates, about opposing, you know, vaccines for all. it is such a striking contrast. this is another example of how fox news is two things in one. small news operation where cavuto works and this giant sometimes dangerous opinion operation that spreads this information. and it is unfortunate that people like cavuto are in the
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midst of this propaganda machine against vaccinations. >> it is life or death. and their primetime hosts are choosing disinformation. i mean, they're making a very clear choice here that can injure or kill viewers. >> and cincluding hurting the colleagues. there is one staffer who passed away. covid last year. this is something that affects everyone, nobody is able to avoid this. so i think this real life case with cavuto, he's on the air for the time being, maybe it is a wake-up call for somebody. i don't know. >> the daily show went to iowa for a trump rally. let's look at this. >> wasn't q's whole thing is that trump would be reinstated as president? >> he never left. no doubt in my mind, 150,000%. >> that he's still president of the united states? really? does he still hold the powers of the presidency? >> he's been playing around the world on air force one, that says something. >> i thought joe biden
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technically is on air force one. no? they're faking it? >> yeah. it is not even a presidency. >> who is running the government right now? >> president trump. >> that man is -- i'm not trying to be mean here, he's delusional. how do you make sense of someone being delusional like that? >> i remember after january 6t6th, to see that continuing almost a year later is scary. look, daily show is comedy. jordan clipper goes there to produce comedy. he may be trying to edit it in certain ways. we know that's a real sentiment out there, it is on the fringes, but it is real, it is out there. we live in a country where ther. everybody has their own microreality. you can see it.
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it is true. >> that's true. people think he's flying around on air force one. >> we need to book more psychiatrists on television these days to try to explain what is happening in the country. >> it is an amazing phenomenon. brian, thank you so much. >> maybe i'll get a psych degree. >> maybe. >> i'm going back to school. >> here's what else to watch today. the white house unveiling its plan to roll out the covid vaccine for kids. we have breaking details ahead. ', stress seems to evaporate into thin air. which leaves us to wonder, where does it go? does it get tangled up in knots? or fall victim to o gravity?
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good wednesday morning. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. the key word on capitol hill this morning is compromise. big compromise. any moment, speaker nancy pelosi is set to meet with house democrats after president biden informed progressives there will be huge concessions to his social spending and climate package. in an effort to get moderate senators led by joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to sign off, sources tell cnn that biden discusse


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