tv Inside Politics With John King CNN October 19, 2021 9:00am-10:00am PDT
hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. the january 6th committee collides with trump defiance. today the panel plans to hold a top trump ally in contempt, and this. the former president sues to stop that committee from getting access to his records. plus, can joe biden deliver? this afternoon the president hosts a slew of critical meetings with fellow democrats still divide over the size and scope of the biden agenda. plus this, the fda plans to okay mixing and matching your covid vaccine, this as the clash over vaccine mandates grows and a power 5 school fires its
football coach. and today an american first, dr. rachel lavigne is sworn in as at admiral, the four transor transgender woman to hold a four-star rank. tonight the cap toll riot committee plans to refer steve bannon for criminal contempt. bannon, one of the former trump officials and allies who pledges not to cooperate with the january 6th investigation, and the former president himself now trying to stymie that committee's work. donald trump is suing to stop the national archives from forking over documents. trump lawyers say executive privilege applies, but the committee says former presidents have no such power, no such privilege, and the chairman says it's time to teach an accountability lesson to trump and to his allies. >> he refuses the subpoena like we expect him to continue to do then we're left with no other
choice then to ask the justice department, lock him up and hold him in contempt and clearly that might send enough of a message that he'll agree to talk to us. >> with me in studio to share their reporting and their insights, margaret at alloff of axios, a reporter with the "new york times," politico's heather capital gainel and cnn's paula reed. paula, let's start with you, congress votes -- the house votes to hold steve bannon in contempt and refer him to the justice department. he says lock him up. how likely, how long? >> it's not known how long. attorney general-maker garland. president biden said he believes he should be in contempt so for all the politicization of the justice department under trump, we're seeing pressure come from several lawmakers on the attorney general here. it is likely that he could decide to move forward with contempt proceedings because bannon has made it a lot easier on him. he's really made his own case. he could have made this
difficult. he could have shown up. he could have answered questions and perhaps said, well, i can't answer that because potential executive privilege, or i can't answer that because i -- i plead the fifth. he could have done this in a way that made this decision more difficult for the attorney general, but at this point our reporting is it is unclear how the attorney general will proceed. >> and so you ask the question why. i mean, steve bannon enjoys the attention and enjoys his resurgence, if you will, as one of the faces of the trump resistance, if you want to call it that. adam schiff, a member of the committee says they need to talk to steve bannon because he was talking to keep people at key times. >> what's going to happen? >> we're going after him. what he knows is really important and on january 35th the day before the insurrection, he was telling people that all hell was going to break loose the next day, but it's also
really important right from the start that we establish that if you ignore your lawful requirement of testifying when you're subpoenaed you will go to jail. >> so two points. information and the credibility of the institution, of the congress in this case. here's what they are asking for in the case for steve bannon. communications from planners of the rally. communications with trump between the election and the inauguration of joe biden, communications with trump officials about january 6th. details of the meetings at the willette hotel with rally organizers the day before the rally. communications about the contesting, communications with the proud boys, oath keepers and rudy giuliani and other big trump liars. this is a test of the credibility of the institution by frankly was frustrated throughout the trump years, even when he was in the white house. he pretty much, forgive me, flipped them the bird. >> what you see now is a democratic caucus that's determined to move fast while they still have the majority until next year, especially they learned lessons from the impeachment investigation,
right, where they really got accused of dragging their feet. they helped and hawed on whether to hold potential witnesses in contempt and whether to subpoena them, how fast to move so this time they are determined to say we're moving fast. if you don't want to cooperate, we will take it to make garland and push this as far as we can and this is a message as much to bannon as it is to other witnesses that they want to participate in this investigation. >> the second point there as well is the firms often highlight is the point of what were the conversations like with the former president, right? taking a step back here just to remind everyone, i mean the whole thing, one of the goals here is yes, of course, about protecting the value of the institution and making sure that you still have an oversight mechanism but also to find out more information about the movements and the conversations of the former president in the days leading up to the january 6th and on january 6th, and, you know, there's a fascinating point here that paula noted is that the white house has come out and really been foecke vocal about this issue, too. you have something which is very interesting and some legal
scholars say is unprecedented where a former president is seeking the confidentiality of the white house that most of the presidents tend to guard and an incumbent saying we're backing that investigation. >> the former president is trying to sue. he's saying i have a privilege. the law, at least as we know it. we'll see what happens, judges can decide different things, the privilege rests with the current point, that joe biden would have to say for the good of the institution you can not have trump's records because then in the future you could get access to private documents but joe biden is not saying that. this is what donald trump's lawyers say in the lawsuit. the committee's request amounts to nothing but an illegal fishing bedigs which wants to unconstitutionally investigate president trump and his administration. >> it's posturing and messaging. there's an irony here which there is these two concurrent fights, the steve bannon fight and donald trump fight. you would think the former president has more protection but it's entirely possible that the wheels of justice are going
to move much faster on the trump case than they are on the steve bannon case. november 12th is the magic date by when the former president knows whether his time has run out or whether he can get someone to agree with him. otherwise those records are going forward and a white house, even the trump white house, keeps records differently than steve bannon does. it is one thing if the courts compel steve bannon and the committee somehow compel steve bannon to either participate or be in trouble or be punished but getting someone to participate doesn't mean that you'll get all the records you want, the information that you want. what could come out of a former white house, a place where government records have been kept, could be much more substantial? >> of course, including not only before, number one, the commit wants to know what was -- how aware it was the former president of who was coming, what their plans were so what did he know on january 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th and lawmakers being rushed out of the capitol and the chambers themselves are under siege and what did the president do. who did he talk to? made a few phone calls to members of congress but a few
key details what have trump was doing or not doing, there's still a lot of questions. >> a lot of questions, and if you look at the report that the committee put out last night detailing its efforts to get bannon to cooperate, you see just how extensive and how broad their requests are. now trump is, of course, attacking the requests as being too broad, but it's interesting in talking to sources over the past few weeks, i found that a lot of people in trump's orbit have hoped that the biden administration would be inclined to protect privilege here to protect themselves in about a year and a half, two years from now from a republican turning out and using it against them. but one source within this white house, they don't necessarily seem to be that concerned. they believe that these circumstances were extraordinary which is why he is so far not been afforded that protection. >> and the committee responding to the trump suit in a statement says it is nothing more than an attempt to delay and obstruct our probe. it's hard to imagine a more compelling public interest than trying to get information on an attack on our democracy. yes, future congresses might
try -- their point is this was such a defining day, the right to secrecy gets trumped, forgive me, by the right to the truth. >> absolutely. they are trying to lay the groundwork with this committee to say we can never do this again and we will not make exceptions like the privilege argument for future administrations on things like that because what happened here is so important and shook our foundation as a country so much that any other political argument or previous historical argument kind of, you know, is outweighed by that. i think the question now talking to democrats on the hill, the committee votes tonight. how fast does the house move to vote? they could vote as soon as this week. leadership tells me they will definitely vote before thanksgiving and then it goes to doj and then merrick garland is very methodical. so the question is just because this is biden's white house, biden's doj, does doj move very fast on this and the democrats don't know the answer. >> this is the question of a power of a person who was president versus the power of the presidency and that's ultimately what's at stake here. the privilege is meant to
protect the institution so there can be democratic governance, not to protect individuals so that they can, you know, work around government. >> and the question do both the political and legal systems get the urgency of this, the urgency that have day and the urgency of the truth, the don mcgawn subpoena in the impeachment inquiry, the case ultimately settled in may 2021 so in the past, rear view mirror, this can take too long. the question is what is it like out the windshield. meetings, signs of progress. lawmaker meetings and key players in the biden agenda. they are all getting together, too, but are they cole vinagre anything? oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need. sorry? limu, you're an animal! only pay for what you need.
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breaking news just into cnn. you see the pictures there on your screen. a small plane crashing this morning outside of houston executive airport. the waller county sheriff's office says all passengers were safely removed from that plane. look at the pictures, with just one minor injury. that's remarkable. we'll continue to stay on top of that story. if there are any new developments. back here in washington, if meetings guaranteed movement then the biden agenda would be in much better shape by the end of this day. this afternoon the president holds two key meetings, first with house progressives and then with a group of moderates. already this morning the president met with kyrsten sinema after speaking with the other moderate senator joe manchin yesterday. meet russia important. meetings help, especially important when you get the key players in the room with each other but meetings so far have not guaranteed progress, correct? >> no, absolutely not. i mean, we've been doing this for a few months right. i think what democrats, biden, speaker pelosi and schumer are doing is show momentum in the hopes that that makes momentum
happen. they were saying and still are saying today they want to vote on a reconciliation bill by the end of the month and the infrastructure deadline is again approaching at the end of the month. they are not going to get a reconciliation bill on the floor in the next two weeks. that's a fact. they are hoping they can get a framework agreement with manchin and sinema and some of the key progressives in the next two weeks and that will unlock votes for the infrastructure bill because their feeling now is we need to off load one of those hostages. we are carrying too many on the boat frankly and if we can get the infrastructure bill passed and sent to biden we can all focus on the reconciliation bill and hopefully get something by december. >> the question that i have is now that you have the president, a, more involved and, b, people meeting with the president, we can show you, leaving meetings with the president or phone conversations with the president and then going in with the other side. congresswoman jayapal, the head of the progressive caucus have have meetings with manchin and sinema who don't want to do enough. not big or bold enough.
bernie sanders said he's actually sat down with joe manchin last night after they publicly sparred so you're getting the right people in the root the question is can they start to shrink their differences? >> and can they come to an a agreement on some of these policies that the biden administration has really focused on in saying just how impactful the legislative bills can be, right? one example is climate change, right. that's something that the boyden administration, white house officials have continued to to you. he's taking a pretty key trip in two weeks as twhael will center and focus on climate change. can you have these two sides, that being senator bernie sanders, as well as a joe manchin come together, right? manchin has made it clear, really for weeks now, for a while now, that he does not support some of the key provisions in that part of the bill when it comes to the clean energy prom and what have you. it also seems like he's not going to move when it comes to a carbon tax. the progressives are saying, at least some are saying they are not going to vote for it unless
it has the sweeping policies as well. i mean, that's one of the specific examples of, yeah, you're in the room but will you reach a consensus. >> i want to listen to some of that because you watch this play out in realtime. senator chris coons, a key ally of the president, senator from delaware and senator joe manchin, a clean energy plan, what else can we do? what's plan "b?" some say bring back the characteron tax. making progress. objections to this so let's do that. then this happens. >> the question is whether we can include a polluter fee. that's something i hope we can include and will allow us to go to glasgow, the global summit in two weeks showing ambition. >> are you okay with the carbon tax? >> no, no, we haven't talked about that. >> look. this is the entire first-year biden agenda, number one so it makes another key point. the president is about to be on the global stable. he wants to say my country is taking the climate situation
seriously timely and they can't. >> president biden has to message internationally as a world leader and domestically as leader of the united states. joe manchin has the message to his constituents of virginia because he's got to get re-elected, but he also has to, you know, if he's the reason why this falls apart, that could put him in a really bad play, so everyone has these kind of dual tracks. i think what's going on is when you look at -- we talk a lot about how republicans and democrats don't talk to each other and don't socialize with each other anymore and it makes it harder to find a middle ground. the democratic party is so fractured that's true inside the party. i think there is merit in getting, you know, progressives and conservatives or moderates together in one place for all of these people including joe manchin. it's a matter of branding and packaging just as it is a matter of substance. he cannot have things that will look like it will put a death knell in the coal industry than will drive a lot of his negotiations in the final week. >> you're right. they won't get thereto by the end of the month. the question is can they get a
framework that allows them to free the bipartisan infrastructure bill or as you call it one of the hostages. we'll see. at least the meet russia coming. we'll stay on top of it. for us this will help answer the question. .joe biden takes question from the american people. anderson cooper will moderate the town hall with president biden thursday night at 8:00 eastern only right here. next for us the fda mixing and matching above thor shots gets a green light and right when messaging is important on the importance of vaccines. ♪ ♪
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e the fda now said to be ready to give its approval to mixing covid vaccines when you get a booster shot. the agency says it's generally preferable to get the same brand as your initial vaccine when you get the initial shot but that getting a different brand is fine, too. with me to share her insights and expertise is dr. leana wen, the former baltimore city health commissioner. appreciate your time. i want to put up for our viewers just to show, since boosters became available, fires pfizer and now the other advance evens. more than 10.6 million americans have said, great, let me get a booster shot. on this question of mixing and matching, you received the j&j vaccine when you get a booster will you get j&j or go to pfizer
or moderna? >> i'm not going to get a second j&j dose though i say for some people it may be are the right choice. for women under 506 which i'm one the j&j vaccine has been associated with a very rare but extremely serious side effect of having a blood clotting disorder so for women in this category i would encourage them to seek out one of the nmra vaccines. overall i think the mix and match allows for flexibility and convenience. many state health officials have been asking for this. we're in the middle of a pan dem you can and if we're getting boosters to people. it's important that people get a choice but more importantly people can get whatever booster they have access to and especially if we're going to nursing homes, having public clinics, et cetera, we should be able to have interchangeable boosters and when possible accounting for patient's individual preference. >> you used a key term saying in the middle of a pandemic and i want help for your context because we've been through this
sadly too many times, but you see right now, right now the seven-day average of new coronavirus infections is down 51% from its september high. on monday the average was 84,932, down from more than 172,000. if you look at hospitalizations as well. hospitalizations down 45%, they tend to track. cases drop by more than 50% over that period and hospitalizations down by 45% over that period. dr. werngs i want to go back to the cases map. however, as these come down, my fear is we've come back down before only to go back up because only 66% of the american people being fully vaccinated. the more we know and the better we can treat. are we coming down meaning all the way down, coming down, or are we coming down and we'll see? >> definitely the latter. i don't think any of us can really predict what's going to happen especially as it's getting colder. people are going indoors more and also we know what's happened last time, that when the numbers come down, people start letting down their guard and then as a result we may see an upsurge
again, especially come holiday season. i want to say we're in a very different place than we were last year at this time because of the vaccines so i want people to take into account not only the risks but also the values and what it is that they care about. i want families to be gathering. i want for halloween, for kids to be going trick-or-treating and for people to see each other over thanksgiving and christmas but we have to take reasonable measures into account and that includes if you're indoors in crowded places in, public and there's a lot of virus in your community, you should still be wearing a mask. if you're getting together with extended family, for example, and there are some vulnerable members or young kids who are not vaccinated, consider everybody getting a test. those are the types of measures we can implement so that we're reducing risk but also take into account what is the level of community spread where we live. >> right, and a piece of that, you mentioned masking, common sense, worrying about vulnerable people. a piece of that is if you haven't been vaccinated maybe think again, reach out to your doctor and have that conversation to get you over, at least try to get you over your
legitimate hesitancy questions if you have them. some of the questions are legitimacy. yesterday america lost a treasure dr. colin powell and we had to sadly, listen to this. >> you've been lied to. vaccines may be highly useful for some people, but across a population they do not solve covid. that's not speculation. it is an observable fact. people who have been fully vaccinated can get the virus, can still transmit the virus to others and they can still die from covid. colin powell is hard lit only example of that. colin powell followed the instructions, did what joe biden did, so did 40% of fully vaccinated people who recently died in maryland. they all died anyway. at the very end of the program he forgot to say at the top that colin powell had a couple of other health conditions that made him vulnerable. it ignores science and it's reckless, right? >> that's right. it's offensive and really dangerous because we need to state what the facts are. the facts that are vaccines are safe and extremely effective.
the cdc data from just last week found that the vaccines protect you six times from getting infected, 11 times from dying from covid-19. yes, there are some people who are particularly vulnerable. individuals who are older, with chronic medical conditions, who are immunosuppressed and unfortunately general powell was in this category of people who are very vulnerable. if they are to contract covid, they may have significant outcomes including hospitalization and death, and that's why the best way to protect these individuals is for everyone to be vaccinated. that's the entire idea of herd immunity so that we have enough people vaccinated that we're able to drive down the level of covid in a community. that reduces risk for everyone. that should actually be the takeaway here, not that vaccines don't work, but the reason why so many people are still dying from covid is that there are so many americans who remain unvaccinated. that's posing a grave public health threat to anyone as is misinformation and disinformation. >> dr. wen, thank you. grateful as all, especially on
this day to combat that. let's bring it back into the room. dr. wen makes an important point. want to put up on the screen and sorry to have to do that. more than 725,000 americans have died as we have gone through the covid pandemic. i don't like the government telling me what to do. i don't like my player telling me what to do but every now and then something big comes along, forgive me fox news, what makes america exceptional is when we all decide to set down our personal principles preferences for the good of the team. the good of the team here is to come together and not spread that, but -- >> yeah. look, i think there's a real concern here about disinformation, and if people watch them telling them something that's not actually demonstrably true it creates a public health threat, drives a public health thread and for nut outlets or media outlets there's real consideration about where's the line between opinion and active disinformation and i
think for congress and for the government there's a real line between what is a first amendment right that should be protested and what is, you know, what needs to be regulate or restricted around -- around disinformation that could cause harm and covid is a really critical and difficult test of that, but the truth is there is -- there's clear scientific consensus as the doctor said that vaccinations help protect not just the people who are vaccinated but other people from getting something that passes through you, and when you have a case like general powell of someone who is living with a blood cancer and a weakened immune system, it is other people's non-vaccination that helped threaten and imperil him. >> it's a shared responsibility. if i can do something to help protect somebody else, i'm going share a secret. i'm immunocompromise. i have multiple sclerosis so i'm grateful you're all vaccinated
and i'm grateful my employer who says all the amazing people who came in here for the last 18 months doing there are vaccinated. i worry about springing it home to my 10-year-old son who can't get a advantages eve. i don't like the government telling me what to do, don't like my boss telling me what to do. in this case it's important. >> absolutely. this is, unfortunately, a debate that's playing out within the republican party and about how and should they politicize vaccines and mask mandates, and frankly, as you said, and margaret said it's dangerous and it's reckless, and not all republicans are on board with that. we see senate majority leader mitch mcconnell come out -- when he does his press conference, does his mask off and say get your vaccinated. i am vaccinated but it's certainly dividing the party and the worry is if some see it is successful and brings out people and voters that it could continue, and where does that leave us as a country? >> this is a top concern as well for some of the most powerful people in the country right now, including the white house, right? i mean, it's not just fox news,
and it's not just certain news outlets, but there are top officials in the white house that are still very concerned about the way that misinformation around vaccines and the coronavirus can spread on online platforms as well. we remember the debate between the white house and facebook as well. you know, we ereported that the administration has put forth a lot of efforts thus far without a lot of success to try and get these companies to also contain the spread of some of the false information being perpetuated out there about the effectiveness of vaccines. i mean, when it comes to colin powell's death, i mean, i was talking to someone yesterday who said, look, one, as we've all stayed, this is somebody who was immunocompromised did, have a form cancer, was in his old age, was in his 80s, but also, you know, if you're in a car crash and you are wearing a seat belt, it doesn't matter that you're going -- it doesn't mean that you're going to stop wearing a seat belt going forward. this is still the way to protect you, you know, going forward. >> right, again, yesterday we lost an american fresher
treasure but sometimes we focus too much on celebrity no. offense to general powell. he's an american hero, but 726,196 people. those are all treasures. that's somebody's brother, mother, father, sisters, co-worker, colleague, friend, teammate. focus on the science, or put it this way, man up or shut up. next, can democrats get to yes on the biden agenda? party liberals are now meeting face to face with centrists. a key member of the progressive caucus joins with us his take on whether talking means progress. . it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq.
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the key players are talking more all of a sudden but there's no evidence yet key policy differences are being bridged as democrats try, try and try to put together a giant social safety net package. for example, senator joe manchin wants to include means testing. what you earn, the senator says, should determine whether you're entitled to some government benefit, but progressives call that bad policy and bad politics. joining me now one of those progressives, the democrat from new york, congress montana dair jones. congressman, hanks for joining us. key players are getting face to face, senators manchin and sanders and congresswoman jayapal with sinema and manchin. are you getting word from your allies that progress is being made in the meetings or at least the key people are just staring
at each other right now. >> john, it's great to be with you again. look, this is progress. the fact that manchin and sinema are finally talking about their top lines and what they can and cannot live with is a result of a progressive strategy to enact the overwhelming majority of this president's broadly popular economic provisions. this is a strategy that was articulated initially by the president himself, the majority leader in the senate and, of course, the speaker of the house nancy pelosi until a few renegade democrats tried to derail that. i'm very optimistic we'll pass both. the build back better act containing the vast majority of what the president proposed earlier this spring. >> one of the key points you made you disagreed with joe manchin on means testing. he says if you make 150,000, 200,000, 300,000 a year you should either not get or get a smaller piece of government benefits than somebody who makes 30,000 or $40,000 a year. i wrote about this saying
proponents of means testing propose turned the guys of fiscal responsibility. fundamentally means testing is a choice to deprive millions of our neighbors of what they need simply to cope. if manchin is a firm no and you can't pass something without manchin's vote, are you willing to accept some means testing to these new benefits you want to create? >> well, john, look, progressives are pragmatic. i also hope that joe manchin will be progmatic in that he'll look at what the research shows. in that same op-ed which i co-authored with katie porter we cited to a 2011 study when it was attempted for social security to be means tested, and, of course, that study showed that you spend at least as much money creating an entire bureaucracy to evaluate whether people qualify for things to say nothing of the intimidation that people feel having to complete complex paperwork in many cases as you do from forfeiting the number of benefits from the
widely popular life-improving social programs, and so our project right now is to educate the senator who i believe wants to do the right thing about how means testing is actually regressives and about how how the policies in this country, social security and medicare that are universal are the most broadly supported, and it is why they have withstood the test of time despite the best efforts by republicans to unravel them. >> one of the new comp kagsz, if that's the right word in these talks now is you have a virginia governor's race going on. the democratic candidate is in a very competitive race in what should be a competitive blue state and one element is pass the bipartisan bill now and then come back and complete the build back better plan. if a framework can be have to say this will be x, are you
willing to do that to give terry mcauliffe a quote, unquote win from washington, or are you afraid of being snookered? >> virginia is a blue state and i believe ter mcall sieve a good enough candidate to win, especially having served as governor before of virginia without it having to do anything. >> so that's a no. that's a no, you won't split them? >> look, it's important to stay true to what the strategy of the white house has been which is to make sure that we pass both of these bills, and we have seen that strategy bear fruit in getting manchin who was talking a few weeks ago passing the build back better act in the year 2022 now talking about what he can and cannot live with. >> the last time we spoke or a couple times ago anyway you said it was important for the president to get more involved, not just putting people in a room but starting to resolve differences and make demands, essentially i'm the president, get this done. are you seeing proof of that. >> i'm seeing the president
become more involved with respect to the negotiation of the build back better act in the same way he was involved in the negotiation of the bipartisan infrastructure bill. he has linked these two bills and understands the overwhelming majority of his broadly contained provisions are contained in the larger build back better act and, of course, then we need to get him involved in the voting rights discussion that have been ongoing. >> we'll pick that conversation up. one thing at a time, congressman, but that's an important issue to me as well. appreciate your time again, sir. >> thank you. two weeks left in the tight race for the virginia governor, a key test of how much donald trump matters when he's not in the white house and not on the ballot. we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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trump is not on the ballot in the virginia governor's race but in brand new tv ads terry mcauliffe wants voters to make the connection between trump and his supporters. glen youngkin wants the supporter of the voters but doesn't want to be too close to the former president. our panel is back to discuss. this is a test in the sense that we know trump motivates democrats t.worked a bit in the california recall. it worked in the california israel and in the presidential election. the question for terry mcauliffe is does this turn out votes?
>> it starts when we give room hate to grow. >> you also had very fine people on both sides. >> and for some they embrace it. >> i was honored to receive president trump's endorsement. >> and glen youngkin, he'll straighten out virginia and do all of the things that we want a governor to do. we're going to take it all back. take back virginia. >> does that meet the moment in virginia? will it turn out democrats? >> it will probably turn out some democrats and he needs a lot of democratic turnout. it's kind of a mid-term year, the year before the mid terms. the question is will it turn off some democrats or some voters, some independents and mcauliffe that will have to bring his way? will that offset the turnout? there's a dual track strategy. he's bringing in vice president harris. he's bringing in former president obama, a big effort to turn out younger voters, voters of color all over the state of
virginia in time days but there's centrist and independent voters around the suburbs and others who are part of this equation. there's a lot on the line for terry mcauliffe and the endemocratic party. >> do you see your only path to success here as making this terry mcauliffe versus donald trump? >> no. i've spent most of this campaign, if you look at my advertising, and what i say on the trail there's huge differences, kate in this campaign. i'm for raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks, i'm for paid family medical leave and for paid sick leave. glenn youngkin is against every one of those. >> we did just look at his ads, sorry, terry, but that ad does seem to -- >> i get what you're saying there. that ad does seem to be a part of the trend that democrats are putting trump on the ballot.
we saw this also happen with the recall election with gavin news come and larry elder. different opponent and different state and same tactic saying, look, if you vote for that guy, you'll be getting the things that trump advocates for, and that is an attempt to try and get more voter turnout, try and get more black voters to come out, try to get more latino voters to come out as well. we'll see if it works value. have a is different than california. >> you write about this today. it's a headline. virginia has a slogan. virginia is for lovers and politico says virginia is for warriors. margaret just talked about the governor race poses real risk for democrats agenda. terry mcauliffe wanted the president the infrastructure bill last week, last month and his answer was i don't think so. >> mcauliffe is calling out speaker pelosi who he's very close to and she will do a fund-raiser for him next week saying i need you to put the
bill on the floor. we need this. meanwhile, on the flip side, democrats on the hill are worrying if mcauliffe does lose this race and this is what we get out of the story their agenda goes kaput because what moderates want to vote for a $2 trillion bill and rising inflation and all these other concerns when democrats can't hold a state that they feel should be realigned blue. >> two very fascinating ahead. two weeks from now we'll be counting votes. i always love that. it's always fun. it is fun. it is fun. and the impact on the agenda. when we come back, the fbi right now on the scene of a dc home of a russian oligarch. more on why ahead. (battle sounds from phone) ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon roar from phone) ♪ ♪
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bring out the bold™ topping our political radar. you can see the pictures, an fbi raid in washington targeting a crony of the russian president vladimir putin. agents this morning raiding the only of a russian oligarch closely tied with putin and with the former trump campaign manager paul manafort. a spokesman tells cnn that the activity at this d.c. home related to a federal investigation out of new york. and history today. rachel lavigne is now the first openly transgender four-star officer. admiral lavigne sworn in this morning as a four star in the u.s. public health service, another first for lavigne also the nation's highest ranking openly transgender official. a statue of thomas jefferson will be removed from the new york city council claim befrmts the city's public design commission voted unanimously on monday to move it. one council member said she felt
deeply uncomfortable uncomfortable with the likeness of a slave owner nearby. the city is trying to find out a new place for the statue. that's all the time we have for "inside politics." ana cabrera picks up with more news now. have a good day. hello and thanks for joining us. i'm ana cabrera in new york. in just hours a critical vote on capitol hill, and what happens will significantly shape how the investigation into the january 6th capitol riot moves forward. this vote will decide whether trump ally steve bannon should face criminal contempt charges for defying a congressional subpoena. two big questions here. if this vote passes and clears the full house as well, will the department of justice move forward with prosecution, and if that happens would bannoan