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and a warm welcome to our viewers here in the united states and right around the world. i'm paula newton. ahead here on "cnn newsroom," venezuela retaliates after nicolas maduro's alleged money man is extradited to the u.s. to face charges. we now know the identity of the man accused of killing a british mp as police investigate a possible extremist motivation behind the stabbing. plus, rising slaea levels.
a frightening look at what our future holds if nothing is done to fix the crisis. and we will get to those stories in a moment, but first the latest developments in the breaking news we're covering out of haiti. a group of 17 christian missionaries abducted by gangs outside of port-au-prince. "the washington post" reports one of the victims posted a call for help on the whatsapp messaging service while they were being kidnapped. an ohio-based organization called christian aid ministries has confirmed the victims are members of its group. we get more now from cnn's matt rivers. we spoke to him earlier. >> so this is basically very much an ongoing situation at this point. what i can tell you, though, is that, you know, we were doing stories about kidnappings months
ago when we were there after the haitian president was assassinated back on july 7th. and this has been an issue that has plagued haiti for a long time, but this year specifically, a significant spike in kidnappings. and i have a couple statistics i can read for you. since january, at least 628 kidnappings have taken place. 29 of whom before this latest kidnapping, 29 of whom were foreigners. that's according to data from a nonprofit group that tracks this stuff in port-au-prince. these gangs that do this, they are looking for ransom money, which they are often paid, sometimes to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. depending on which analyst you speak to, 50% of port-au-prince is in the control of -- in the hands of gangs, robin. so it is an extremely dangerous time for people right now in port-au-prince and this latest kidnapping is just further proof of a horrific situation right
now in that country's capital. >>. and to the uk now where a government source tells cnn a suspect in the fatal stack of mp davis amess is ali hearti aly. police are treating the case of a terrorist incident and crowned prosecutors say they are supporting the investigation. the fatal attack, the second in five years against a member of parliament, has heightened security for all lawmakers. prime minister boris johnson and labor leader keir starmer were among the dignitaries paying their respects on saturday, visiting the church where sir david was murdered. the prime minister tweeted he laid a wreath for the lawmaker, calling him a much-loved colleague and friend. salah aziz has been covering the story and joins us from london. you're at 10 downing street, and it was quite a display there
from the prime minister and showing a sign of unity with the opposition leader as well. what more do we know about the investigation, especially now that the suspect has been named? >> reporter: we know right now that counterterrorism police are te interrogating the suspect. they will have a period of time under the investigation laws in this country to investigate and interrogate this 25-year-old man and there's possibly a motive linked to islamic extremism, but there's also a much larger conversation that's happening here, because this is the second time in just about five years, paula, that a lawmaker has been killed in this fashion. it was in 2016 that jo cox, a labor mp, was also stabbed and killed just before the brexit vote. also during her constituency surgery, her open office hours, essentially. so you can imagine that lawmakers up and down this country are asking questions about their own safety, about the future of this very important tradition in british politics, which is to hold these
open office hours with the public, allow them to come, and meet their local politician, meet their local lawmaker. and speak of the issues of the day. that tradition right now is under threat. the person being questioned on this is the home security secretary, who ordered an immediate security review of all mps across the country. she's asked police to look at their security arrangements. and this morning, she was on sky news, explaining what procedures could be put into place to try to protect lawmakers further. take a listen. >> there are things already in place, but i'm now very much and lindsay hall, the speaker of the house and i, with the police and with others, as well. >> reporter: now, there's a few things there that the home secretary mentions potentially as additional procedures. among them, making sure that you know the location where you're using -- where you're holding
jrnlg. tha that is something sir david amess did. she talks about booking appointments. that is also something that sir david amess did. he asked people on twitter to book appointments before arriving at the church. to not be alone. that was another thing that the home secretary said, again, sir david amess was not line. if you're looking at some of these suggestions, none of them would have potentially saved sir david amess from this very brutal murder. the question is still there, paula. and of course, there's the practical implications. if you put security with every mp who's meeting with voters, what is the cost to the public of that? is it a reasonable cost. you really do have a very real threat to this tradition again of meeting with the public, being able to be out with your voters, with your constituents, two murders in just five years, paula. that is an extremely bleak record. so a lot of politicians here saying, this is not just a threat to one lawmaker, this is
not just an extreme radicalized individual. this is a question about the very nature of the political process and democracy in this country, paula. >> and let's be clear, these were brutal, savage murders, both of them. you are right to point out the fact that a lot of those safety measures were already taken. some now talking about the discourse, right, about whether that needs to change. and i'm sure a lot of people around the world will be keeping an eye on that. salma, i really appreciate the update. now, covid vaccination numbers are slowly ticking up in the united states. as of saturday, nearly 57% of the population is fully vaccinated. around two-thirds of everyone who's eligible. and now more americans could soon qualify for vaccine boosters. on friday, an fda advisory panel recommended boosters for all adults who received the one-dose johnson & johnson vaccine. experts say those who did get that shot should get the extra shot, as soon as it's available. now, the cdc still needs to
weigh in, though, before making a final decision. public health officials are also considering whether to mix and match boosters. this is really interesting. it you to listen to the director of the national institutes of hea health. >> there was data presented yesterday from nih about the mix and match question. and there was data that suggested that if you are going to get a booster for j&j, maybe getting a moderna or a pfizer booster would actually have some advantages in terms of giving you an even stronger immune response. so don't run out anybody who got out, j&j. i would wait another week right now and see what cdc's advisory committee does with this next week. and by maybe a week from today, i'll tell my grandkids what i think they ought to do. >> dr. peter novak is an infectious disease and global health specialist from the university of oxford and joins us flow oxford, england.
really good to see you. we keep turning the pages on this pandemic quite quickly. we're at boosters now. there is a lot of conflicting information about whether or not they are even truly needed. i mean, from your survey of the recent study, what do you think? how vigilant should people be, especially if they are more than six months out on any vaccine? >> yeah, there's new data coming in all the time, so we're learning as we go here, and it really depends on your risk and your age group. i think at this point, the data are pretty strong that particularly for those who are immunocompromised and those who are over 65 that there is evidence of the immunity waning and there's a strong evidence base to get a booster. with johnson & johnson, it's a little bit different. i think the preponderance of the evidence is suggestion that perhaps it should have been a two-dose vaccine in the first place, and that the single dose had a little bit lower efficacy than some of the other vaccines. and so it may well be that as the advisory panel recommended last week, that everybody, or at
least every adult who has had the j and j vaccine should go ahead and get a second dose. but it might just be appropriate to think of that as a two-jab course like the pfizer and moderna vaccines. it is a confusing time at the moment. the most important thing is to remember that we have really good evidence that vaccines work. and first and foremost for those people who have not yet been vaccinated, the most important data i saw in the last week from the cdc suggested that the unvaccinated are six times more likely to die and 11 times more likely to get infected with covid-19 than those who are vaccinated, across all age groups. we just need to get people vaccinated. >> and the studies are completely definitive it, seems, on a lot of that data, in terms of the risk. and yet, so many people who are fully vaccinated are, in fact, still worried about those breakthrough cases, which is why boosters certainly seem to be a topic of conversation with many people right now, even if they are fully vaccinated. >> that's right now, what we
have to remember is even though we see a little bit of evidence of waning efficacy with some of the joabs after about six month, they still provide very good protection, well over 80% for the pfizer and moderna vaccines, for example. and very, very good protection against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. so it's still extremely rare, particularly for those under the age of 65, for a fully vaccinated individual to get infected with covid-19 and get very sick or die. you can get infected, but it tends to be a milder course. so across the board, we're seeing these vaccines do provide extraordinary protection, and you still need to be cautious about covid-19 and getting infected, but your risk of severe disease and death is really minimal if you have been vaccinated. >> and it is that tough, that tough decision and the fact that maybe you're fully vaccinated, and you still need to take those precautions, whether it's masking, social distancing, or only do the essentially
activities. i want to ask you about something that we hear a lot about, but is very difficult for someone who is untrained to understand. how worried are you now about the way this virus is developing and whether or not another variant may still be out there that will escape the defenses of the vaccine? i know we've spoken about this over and over again, but there are some people wondering as to whether this is truly the end. >> yeah, well, first off, i think at this point, most of us agree, excuse me, that s sars-cov-2 will be endemic, it will not go away. six months ago, we were worried about all different kinds of variants that seemed to be popping up every couple of weeks. what's happened recently is that the delta variant, because it is so transmissible, has really outcompeted all of the other variants, including some of the variants that did have a little bit more evidence of vaccine
escape. so at the moment, the delta variant is the dominant variant everywhere and we're not seeing other variants really who have a chance of outcompeting. that doesn't mean that the risk doesn't exist. and the bottom line is that the more virus is in circulation anywhere in the world, the more cases that we're seeing, the more chances that a random mutation may lead to an advantage in the emergence of a new variant. is so every new case is a lottery ticket for the virus to produce a variant. we need to remain vigilant about that. but at the moment, delta remains dominant everywhere. >> i like the way you put that. it's a lottery ticket issue. i have been, you know -- this thing has been very complicated. a lot of people have been trying to put their hands around and it it's important to be able to lean on experts like you. dr. peter drobac, again, thank you very much. now, meantime, some european countries are seeing a backlash against their latest covid restrictions. in italy, for instance, people
took to the streets to protest the green pass requirements for workers that went into law on friday. the pass requires proof vaccination, a negative test result or recent recovery from the virus. there are also protests in switzerland. a pass is required there to enter bars, restaurant, and fitness centers. and covid cases and deaths now surging in russia. on saturday, the government reported more than 1,000 deaths for the first time ever. for more, we are joined by cnn's nadia bashir, who's following all of these developments for us from london. such a tragic record there. 1,000 deaths, it's alarming, especially given the fact that russia's case load continues to climb. vaccination there, still not very popular. the numbers are still quite low. >> reporter: absolutely, paula. just over 30% of the population now vaccinated. and when we see these troubling statistics coming out, just
yesterday, 102,000 deaths over 24 hours and 33,208 new cases. these are record levels we're seeing in russia, and it paints a grim picture for what is to come if the trend continues. and as we near these winter months, there are serious concerns, particularly with the spread of more transmissible variants, like the delta variant, that the situation could spiral out of control once again. we've seen russia come under the pressure of the coronavirus pandemic before in the past few months of the pandemic, the health care sector really coming under pressure. so officials in russia are wary, they are calling for more people to get vaccinated. president putin himself speaking on tuesday urged s d citizens t listen to the medical advice and the medical experts and get that jab. but there are those across russia calling for that campaign led by the government to be ramped up. >> translator: there must be
more adequate campaign to get more people vaccinated, more advocacy. >> reporter: and 38 regions in russian have now mandated mandatory vaccine requirements for public-facing roles. and as we continue nearer into these winter months, there's a question of whether the government will take tougher measures in terms of extending that vaccine mandate to others, as some other countries across europe have done, as well as the potential for a lockdown again. now, russia has said the officials have said that they aren't seeking another lockdown. some lawmakers have described this as unreasonable at this stage. and like many countries across the globe, going into lockdown is not the ideal scenario. it's put enormous pressure on the economy and social life. so that's something officials are keen to avoid. it's something people are keen to avoid, but yet this vaccine uptick in russia is still low and poses a real threat as we move on to these winter months. >> the problem with the lockdowns, it's very difficult to get people to comply.
we are seeing high levels of let's say vaccine resistance in surprising places in europe as well. >> well, there are pockets of resistance across parts of europe. there are high levels of vaccine uptick in most countries in western europe and we have seen that. but in recent days, we've seen protests in italy and switzerland as woeell over the measures being taken to really nurnl encourage people to get that jab. what that entails in italy, the green pass, people will have to provide proof of getting the vaccination or getting that infection recently, recovering from that, or indeed getting a negative test within the last 48 hours. and those who don't comply with that green pass could face getting a fine of up to $1,075. and those in switzerland putting in a restriction for those who don't comply of going to
restaurants and bars and clubs. but just last year, polls reflected that many people were not keen to get that jab. and president macron announced that there would be the health pass, we saw that vaccine uptick surge. so there is a example of these kind of measures encourage people to go out asand get that vaccine. >> it seems universal that there is a vaccine uptick when they have those mandates. nadia, appreciate the update. a close ally of venezuela strongman nicolas maduro has been taken into custody, accused of money laundering. and it now looks likes craracas are retaliating. >> they were picked up on saturday hours after alex saab, a key colombian financier that
works very close with embattled venezuelan leader nicolas maduro was extradited from cape verde to the united states. he was first arrested in cape verde in 2020. saab faces charges of money laundering in florida related to his activity as a government contractor in venezuela. the men detained in caracas are known collectively as the sitco six. they are former executives of u.s. oil refinery sitco and their arrest in venezuela since 2017. they are facing corruption charges, which they deny, and they were moved to house arrest just in april this year. one of them was able to send a video message to his family shortly before his detention. >> translator: we are here recording this video because at this time, we and our families are very worried. we don't know what's going to
happen to us now that alex saab has been extradited. we are very worried and our families are very worried. >> reporter: saab is now expected to face a u.s. court in the upcoming weeks. for cnn, this is stefano pozzebon, bogota. still ahead here on "cnn newsroom," more protests are expected in beirut after the worst violence that lebanon has seen in more than a decade. a live report, coming up. plus, attacks claimed by isis isis-k are casting doubt on the taliban's ability to keep afghan safe. what the country's new rulers say they'll do to protect shia muslims.
bullets in the air following the funerals for those killed during the worst violence that lebanon has seen in years. a shia protest over an investigation into beirut's 2020 port explosion turned into deadly street battles thursday. many in the lebanese capital now fear the violence could spin out of control. more protests are expected today
on the second anniversary of the october revolution. we want to bring in cnn's ben wedeman. he is live in beirut's martyr square, the epicenter of those 2019 protests. and ben, i am wondering what you're expecting today, especially given that there are accusations that political factions are using the violence and the bloodshed to further their own causes. i know that that's the cynical view, but what do you see unfolding in the hours to come? >> reporter: well, i think as far as the various political parties exploiting the violence, well, that's politics. politics anywhere. and of course, here, even more so. now, yes, we're in martyr square, where i can tell you exactly two years ago today, this square and the road leading up to the prime ministry was full of people. people protesting against a political system that seems immune to anything. what we've seen over the last two years is the lebanese economy collapse. for instance, the minimum wage,
the minimum monthly wage was worth $450 two years ago. it's now worth $34. you have hyperinflation, massive employment. you have had the covid pandemic, which has killed about 8.5,000 pe people. you had the beirut port blast in august of last year, which killed more than 200 people, rendered 300,000 homeless and caused billions of dollars of damage to the capital. despite all of this, the political elite remains immune. but what seems to be concerning most of them is the fact that the port investigation investigation and the judge leading it has called for the interrogation of key ministers and powerful people within the establishment, all of whom seem to be resisting that call scheme willing to push lebanon over the
brink into chaos, catastrophe, collapse, and perhaps even civil war to avoid the sort of accountability that so many people here in beirut demanded two years ago. paula? >> we were showing photos of that rally and the protests two years ago, and it's so striking that those people, many of them on the streets, were that younger generation, still looking for a better life. and yet, things have gotten so much worse since then. ben, remind us of how hard lives have gotten, everyday, ordinary lives. what you do to put food on the table, get to work, send your kids to school. >> reporter: well, for instance, petrol is now hard to come by and has gone up dramatically in price. so there's not much traffic anymore, because many people can't afford to buy petrol. in terms of electricity, you have just a few hours of state
power a day. the difference has to be made up with generator power, private generator power, which costs around $100 a week. and most people simply can't afford them. so you go to the stores, these sort of luxury items, even basic items that were plentiful before simply aren't there. and i think that study was done recently that said that 70% of the population has difficulty to find the resources to buy an adequate amount of food. so the situation has dramatically declined and many of those who can, including the young and the well-educated the killed are trying to leave this country as quickly as they can. and as you can see, the square, with the exception of these soldiers behind me, is empty.
>> and i've looked many times when you've been speaking from the streets of beirut, and as you said, a lot less traffic than you would expect to see, which is a sign of how difficult things are. ben, i know you will continue to keep us updated on the protests there today, appreciate it. there's little respite for shia muslims in afghanistan. isis-k has claimed responsibility for two recent attacks on shia mosques. for protection, the religious minority now has to rely on the very group known for targeting them in the past. the taliban. a look now on the continuing threats in taliban. a warning, the report contains graphic and disturbing content. >> reporter: row after row of dusty graves. a crowd gathers in kandahar to bury the dead. relatives weep as their loved ones are lowered into the ground. it was just a day earlier the victims were at the city's largest shia mosque for friday prayers. a solemn moment that was abruptly silenced when a group of suicide bombers set off their
deadly explosions. zblft my own brother died in the attack. my brother had two little children. he had a home to live in. he had everything. the pain of the loss cannot be described with words. it's matter of the heart. >> reporter: members of the taliban visited some of the wounded in hospital. the group reaffirming its pledge to bring peace and stability to the embattled country. officials in kandahar say special security officers will guard shia mosques and those responsible for the attack will be punished. the terror group isis-k claimed responsibility for the kandahar attack, as well as a similar assault on a shia mosque in kunduz the week before. members of the country's shia minority have long been persecuted. >> translator: the entire world should condemn this. the islamic world should condemn this. it should be condemned from every corner of this proud nation. >> reporter: but it's these continued assaults on civilians, even on the taliban itself, that are spreading doubt the new
leaders of afghanistan can actually bring peace, and whether taliban protection is enough to prevent more mass graves like this. okay. president biden pays his respects, meantime, to families of fallen police officers, just as many departments are under fire for their policing practices. ahead, the uphill struggle to make the biden agenda a reality.
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u.s. president joe biden traveled to capitol hill on saturday to pay his respects to fallen police officers. now, it was a visible show of support at a time when many police departments right across the country have been facing heavy criticism. just hours earlier, in fact, in houston, texas, a deputy was fatally shot and two other officers wounded in what police describe as an ambush outside a bar. now, the president noted the tragedy in his speech. we get more now from cnn's joe johns. >> reporter: a lot of the significance of this speech was about the timing. after a period of so much harsh criticism of police and policing in the united states, the president goes to the capital and gives a speech praising police officers for their courage. exhibit 1, the response. the united states capital during the riot on january 6th. listen. >> being a cop today is one hell of a lot haterrder than it's ev
been. and to the families of the fallen, you've suffered an enormous loss, but understand, your loss is also america's loss. america's loss, and your pain is america's pain. >> the president also sending his condolences to the three sheriff's deputies who were shot in houston over the weekend. one of those deputies died. the president also talked a bit about his priorities for police reform in the united states, including the george floyd justice in policing act, which got hung up on capitol hill in september. joe johns, cnn, the white house. >> natasha linza joins us now from coalchester, england, where she teaches government at the university of essex. i image at this point in time, the country is trying to move forward, right, from everything that has transpired in the last
few years. joe biden is there, he's at this speech, and yet, it is the very symbol of the fact that the country can't move on from that aftermath of january 6th. >> no, exactly. joe biden has a real challenge on his hands, because only 61% of the american people believe that he was elected legitimately, and you have the republicans that have become increasingly under under trump's thumb and the party has become more and more authoritarian and have been able to sell these false narratives that the election was stolen, and not only that, but those that engaged in violence shouldn't be persecuted. in fact, right after the violence had happened at the capital, there was a poll of republican voters and 77% believe that those that engage in violence deserve to be prosecuted. today that number has slipped to 67%. so we see there are two merks,
one in which you have a different set of information out there, and another that has a completely different other set of information. so biden is struggling to unite people, just because we can't even really agree on the facts and that's going to make it difficult, but also making things difficult, he doesn't seem to have control over his own party. i'm sure we'll speak more about this in a bit, but the dynamic inside the democratic party isn't helping matters. >> absolutely, as you said, there is this cleavage, really, between the two factions in his own party. before we get to that, though, this issue of trying to hold stephen bannon, right, accountable for any involvement that he or the president may have had on january 6th. i'm fascinated by the fact that even trying to call him in contempt of congress, that this may not work. and to quote our own analysis, steven collinson, he said, that by doing this may be preventing the mastermind of trump's blow it all up strategy, yet another platform to try to tear down
america's institutions. it is incredible to me that really, he could avoid this, steve bannon, for quite a few months or even years to come and just use it as fuel for his own theo theories. >> exactly. we've seen that bannon has refused to cooperate before with the trump/russia investigation. he benefits from this, because he can then promote this idea that there's this deep state that's out to get him. and the punishment for being in contempt is 12 months in prison, which is a lot, and he feels like this is something that only he can chance. and he can hide behind this vague idea that he has executive privilege under donald trump, when that's actually not even true. because trump is not the current president. but as you mentioned, bannon uses this on his radio show to convince his supporters and listeners that the state is out to get you, that they're out to
get innocent people. so this works in his favor. and we see that trump's approval rate among republicans never wavered. it didn't matter what he did. it was always around 87, 88%. and the same is true of people that work in his orbit that agree to spew these same type of election lies, about the election being fraudulent, and about the capitol riots. >> i don't have a lot of time left, linda, but we alluded to it, the fact that joe biden has his own build back better agenda. he would want his own credibility to be the same as the gop. what's at work here, and how much longer do you believe that joe biden really has to crack this thing? >> i think he's trying to just get anything done at this point. because if you look at the infrastructure bill and the build bacteria plan, all of these aspects of the bill, are
very popular. whether it's improving medicare or providing more support for people after they retire, all of these things are very popular. it's the price tag. and if you break it down to what it costs per year, which is about $350 billion, then it's not so bad. and up to 70% of americans believe that it is critical to start taxing the rich and corporations more. so what he's going to try to need to know is sell this to his own party and get something done. i think the issue is that kriyrsten sinema and joe manchi don't seem to think that their livelihoods depend on any of these bills being successful. and that's going to be a problem for the midterms, because at the moment, this makes jed joed look incompetent, that he can't get anything done, and i think they're better off getting something done than trying to achieve everything. >> we will leave it there, but
definitely another important to week to come in washington. thank you very much for your insights. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. when it comes to climate change, rising sea levels are huge concern. up next, we'll look at the world's underwater future if nothing is done to address the crisis. brainy on tv - i'm an l neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. have you ever sat here and wondered: "couldn't i do this from home?" with letsgetchecked, you can. it's virtual care with home health testing and more. all from the comfort of... here. letsgetchecked. care can be this good. what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®
in two weeks, world leaders will meet in scotland to tackle one of the most pressing issues of our time. the cop 26 climate crisis couldn't come at a more crucial moment and with so much at stake. our planet is rapidly warming, causing extreme weather events right around the world. this year alone, we've experienced snowstorms, deadly floods, historic droughts with, and massive wildfires. but among the largest concerns is rising sea levelses. what could our future world look like if nothing is done? and for more on that, we want to bring in cnn meteorologist derek van dam. he is live for us here in atlanta. and derek, it's good to see you,
first and foremost. and so many people have the impression that climate change isn't a clear and present danger. and yet, i know that the research you've been looking at really indicates otherwise. >> there are people who want to know about what slaefl rise could do and potentially jeopardize coastal cities. we've got residential owners, business owners, we've got insurance companies. they have to bet against this type of scenario unfolding. well, climate central, as well as princeton university and the puxtam institute actually compiled some data and created these striking images that you're seeing behind me of various cities across the world and showing out and unveiling some of the various temperature snoir scenarios with our rapidly warming temperatures that translates to different sea level rises across the planet. earth has rised about 1.2 celsius from pre-industrial
time. basically since about 1880, when humans started to burn fossil fuels, creating the heat-trapping gases within the atmosphere, allowing our temperature to rise. that allowed for sea level to rise as well, just about 24 centimeters of sea level rise since the preindustrial times. now, we want to talk about some of the most vulnerable coastal communities. and that being in china, vietnam, indonesia into india as well as bangladesh. and we do know that we have the potential to curb these greenhouse gases, keep our temperatures below 1.5 degrees celsius with the paris accord. that would keep our sea level rise under half a meter. but if left unabated, unchecked, greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, we have the potential to see six meters or more of sea level rise in the centuries to come. this is what it would look like, according to the data from climate central. new york city, 3 degrees celsius temperature increase, flooding these coastal areas. the financial district of london
also seeing some inundation. cape town, south africa, my former home, this is the sea point promenade. very familiar with this area. and you can see what a 3-degree celsius warming world would look like for that particular part of south africa. paula, striking images and it really tells a story here of the urgency that needs to be done here. >> striking for sure, derek. and i want you -- i want to thank you for bringing that research to our attention. we'll see you a little later. thank you. now, if you're a "downtown abbey" fan, think about this, cnn's richard quest is in the house, literally, in the house, in the castle. the real-life owners of the show's famous estate tell him how they kept it all going through covid. feel the power. beat the symptoms fast.
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so the tv series "downtown ab abbey" is of course a worldwide smash, but its setting in the english countryside is almost as famous as its cast of characters. downtown castle is really named high claire castle and it's a business and home for a british family. as cnn's richard quest found out, running the extravagant palace has its rewards, but also the challenges.
♪ >> how else are you going to arrive at highclaire castle? go on! highclaire castle has stood for more than 300 years, yet the world knows this magnificent place better as downtown abbey, home to the lord and lady grantham. it's exactly the same as it is on the telly! >> it is! >> reporter: the real granthat ma manys are material and countess of kanavern. >> that is my husband in the queen's arms, because she is his god mother. >> reporter: highclaire has been the family seat since the 17th century. through two world wars and now covid. in the early pandemic, we spoke to lady from highclaire when she was one of our voices of the crisis. >> like many other businesses, this is incredibly tough times and we've all fallen over a
cliff. what did you promise me? >> i promised you afternoon tea. >> reporter: and as good as your word -- >> tea at downtown. i must remember not the call the butler carson. but to be honest, he's used to it. >> i am the butler of downtown. my name is carson. >> how do you, mr. carson? >> when we spoke last year, you were in the process of working out ways to get the thing moving again. how bad did it get? >> i think it got -- well, it got to zero income, which for any business, is definitely really bad, because obviously the bills continue to come and the costs continue to be there. so like other businesses, it was working out what we could do, the art of the possible. >> did you ever get worried? >> it was very, very difficult. people were on furlough and coming and going, coming back and going away again. >> we were all frightened for our health, frightened for our business, frightened for what we
built up and frightened for the future. >> keeping highclaire in good shape is a constant struggle. >> it's an extraordinary bill, and i don't know if we would have the craftsmen today to make it. >> reporter: the earth early inhearted the castle from his father 20 years ago. >> did you think, oh,good lord, i mean, it's very beautiful, but i mean -- look at it! >> we did used to wake up in the middle of the night and i would go to get a cup of tea thinking, what do we do? >> the landed gentry in england are used to this tug-of-war between keeping their heritage and managing to pay the bills. >> will the staff stay? will the farms pay? what are we going to do about the roof? >> reporter: lady mary would be proud of the way the real countess views the business. >> there's no secret pot of gold. what we do here every month and firstly pays the salaries, because that's going to pay everybody's mortgages. >> yes, it's beautiful and romantic to look at, but it's
only there because someone is continually paying out -- >> working and bringing some money in. i've always remembered that sales of vanities profit the sanity. and i don't want to be a busy fool. >> reporter: forgive me, i'm a huge downtown fan and i can't resist looking everywhere. >> i think you're going to recognize this room. >> lord grantham's desk. >> what's this? >> do you find it a bit surreal? that your home is a fictitious place? >> it is surreal, but how wonderful. >> reporter: to walk through these rooms, to hear the history, to meet the canaverns it's like downton. richard quest, highclaire castle or downtown abbey. or highclaire castle. >> i'm telling you, it's amazing we got him out of that castle.
. live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, i want to welcome all of you watching in the states and around the world. i'm paula newton. this is "cnn newsroom." breaking news right now, as many as 17 americans are reported kidnapped in haiti. also, new security concerns for british lawmakers after friday's terror attack took the life of a member of parliament. plus, how the u.s. is planning to welcome international travelers in the age