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sometimes i've said the united states senate appears to be the world's most -- the most gilded assisted living center because nobody wants to leave, they feel if they leave that's the end of their lives, they want to stay. he desperately wants to stay. it also says something about trump's control of this party right now. and there is a reign of terror in the republican party, and people who want to get re-elected, the table stakes is to at least have some sort of passing acknowledgement that maybe there was something wrong with the last election. and remember, 78% of republicans in the cnn poll recently said, yeah, we think there was something wrong with the last election. so, you know, this big lie, this conspiracy theory, has spread and these politicians are cowering. >> he's been a public servant for a long time. he's going to run again and maybe be re-elected. but he's no longer a public servant, he's serving himself at this point. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time," chris? cnn breaking news. >> i'm chris cuomo, welcome to prime time. we have breaking news on former president clinton. we just learned he was hospitalized on tuesday.
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his spokesman says he was admitted to uci medical center, that's in california irvine, to receive treatment for a noncovid-related infection. he's on the mend, in good spirits, and is incredibly thankful to the doctors, nurses ask, staff providing him with excellent care. for more now let's go to our chief medical correspondent, sanjay gupta. he is still in the hospital, we understand. what are we supposed to make of this? >> he went in on tuesday. i've spoken to members of his staff and also to his doctors. he was not feeling well all day tuesday. he was in california for an event related to his foundation, was not feeling well, was taken to the hospital, university of california irvine. at that point was tested. as you mentioned, not
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covid-related. also seemingly not related to his heart. he's had heart surgery, as you know, in the past, including a heart operation in 2004 and a stent in 2010. what they think is going on with the former president now is a blood infection. sometimes known as sepsis. this is now being treated with iv antibiotics. what they are saying is he is responding well to antibiotics, he's been increasingly mobile, able to get up and around. he was joking with hospital staff, seems to be in good spirits. they say they'll continue those antibiotics at least another day, remain in the hospital at least another day, and at that point reassess. but it is possible, again, talking to his doctors just now, that he could be released from the hospital tomorrow. so there's still some details coming in, but that's sort of the gist of it. noncovid-related, seemingly nonheart-related. a blood infection, often known as sepsis, but responding to antibiotics. >> sepsis you hear about people
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getting in the hospital more often than they go to the hospital for it. how is that something that can occur? >> it can come from different routes in the body. sometimes it can start as an infection elsewhere and that infection will spread to the bloodstream. what happens is the person's not feeling well, they'll check the blood and find if there's the presence of an infection. at that point sometimes they'll trace the source. what the doctors have said is that he did have an episode -- it was actually sepsis, meaning it was clear the infection was actually in his blood, as opposed to localized in one area of the body. according to doctors, responding to antibiotics. antibiotics in the bloodstream usually can be treated if it's caught early enough and from what we're hearing it sounds like it was. the president is in the intensive care unit, they say he's there trying to give him some privacy in the hospital, not necessarily that he's in
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critical condition. he's not on a breathing machine or anything like that. they say he could get out of the hospital tomorrow. >> is this one of those things where he had an open wound? we look on our kids to see if there's a red line going up their arm or something like that. is this something that could have been a viral illness that then turns into this type of infection? >> it could be, or it could be a bacterial infection elsewhere in the body, it could be in the urine that goes there first, it could be somewhere else in the body. but this is, you know -- it's not uncommon, he's 75 years old, so it's not unusual to develop an infection somewhere that then might potentially spread into the blood. it can be a serious diagnosis. i don't want to minimize this. but it does sound like he is responding well to antibiotics and he's been in a good mood. i was talking to some members of his staff. they say he's been on the phone with them, talking to them. the former first lady, secretary clinton, was also in california
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there for the same event that the former president was going to be attending. she is there with him as well. i don't know if she's in the hospital, but she's also in southern california. >> and you said, people joining us right now, former president clinton was admitted into the hospital on tuesday. they say it's a blood infection called sepsis. sometimes you hear about getting that in hospitals are but sanjay's explaining it could be from an infection somewhere in the body, made it into the blood stream. the hospital says he's doing well. and also, sanjay, tell the audience in case they're joining us now, people are going to worry this is his heart. what have you been told? >> i did speak to his doctors, including the chief of medicine at university of california irvine, and his primary care physician. those are the first questions, was this related to his heart? because he had a heart operation back in 2004, bypass operation. he had a stent placed in 2010. they said this is not related to his heart. they also say this is not covid.
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he was tested for covid. and he, in fact, has been vaccinated and also received his booster shot. they say that this seems to be sepsis specifically unrelated to those two things. and responding well to antibiotics. they call it an infection, but it's an infection in the blood, which is known as sepsis. because when you get an infection in the blood, that essentially means that it is systemic and that is why it is so necessary to treat those with antibiotics aggressively, which he's receiving, sounds like he's responding. how do they know that? typically people feel better, but also their fever may start to decrease, the white blood cell count, which is usually an indication of infection, they said that was also trending downward as well, they said. so the laboratory values as well as his overall well-being sounds like it's going in the right direction. but he is in the icu, he's going to be there at least another day, at which point they may put
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him on oral antibiotics because he wouldn't be able to get out of the hospital still if he had the iv antibiotics. they're going to be making those decisions over the next 24 hours or so. >> all right. icu, that's always scary, but again, this is a former president. it keeps him isolated, it gives him more privacy. >> that's right. >> we'll stay on it. sanjay, thank you so much. again, former president bill clinton was admitted to the hospital tuesday, university of california irvine. he was at an event, not feeling well. not covid related, not heart related, doctors say. they say sit a blood infection, also known as sepsis. how did he get that? sanjay wasn't told. he is responding well to antibiotics. they are iv. he is in the icu but he may be out of the hospital as soon as tomorrow or the next day. obviously any developments, we'll bring them to you right away. let's start "prime time" and go to our next big story. contempt proceedings on the
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calendar against steve bannon, who is bucking the january 6th committee. will this make him talk? or will it make him a martyr? the chair of the panel did not hold back today. >> steve bannon and his advice to former president trump leaves us no choice. so the committee will do what we are required to do. we're left with no other choice than to ask the justice department, lock him up, hold him in contempt. >> congressman adam schiff tweeting earlier, we're not messing around. can they back up the talk? if so, who wins? look, here's the process. the house is going to have to vote on charges. they have the numbers in the house, the democrats. so then if they get the vote, it then goes to the doj and this becomes their problem. the law is pretty clear.
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bannon refusing to cooperate on the grounds that trump has exercised executive privilege is bogus. a former president has no privilege. we have never seen a case of a former president exercising executive privilege themselves. it has been exercised for them by current presidents. but never by a former president. that's maybe why bannon's lawyer keeps referring to trump as president trump, as opposed to former president trump, tipping his hand that he would know it doesn't make any sense legally. now bannon, even if brought on charges of contempt, he can always plead the fifth. he can always offer to comply at some point along the process. the question becomes, how late can he do that before it just triggers the prosecution? what is this about? it's not about the law. it's certainly about defiance and also delay for bannon and the others. they're hoping the committee runs out of gas or that the midterms put trumpers back in control.
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and there is also the risk here that contempt charges do make bannon a martyr to his corrosive cause. the committee is hoping bannon gets an orange jumpsuit for his defiance, trumpers will think twice before they refuse to comply. why do they want them? this group has to know what trump was doing on january 6th and the days leading up to it. that is fundamental to what this committee wants to learn. let's get some predictions here from much better legal minds. cnn legal analyst and republican election later ben ginsburg. former trump white house lawyer jim schultz. good to see you both. counselor ginsburg, what do you think of the move? >> i think they've got a good cause, they'll be pounding the table a lot. the short-term chances of success are really, really small. i don't think steve bannon's legal case is particularly sound, but you hit the key, and that's delay.
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and once -- if the justice department decides to get in the game and prosecute it, there's still a long time before the house committee will ever get steve bannon's testimony. >> you know, in truth, congress is just not well equipped to make things happen quickly. when someone doesn't want to comply. they go to the doj, it gets litigated, it's a protracted process. >> very. the dirty little secret when is the founding fathers were creating the separation of powers, they didn't give congress tools to actually enforce their contempt findings. >> right. >> so the reality is the house doesn't, people from both political parties managed to play rope a dope for a long time with congressional subpoenas and contempt, so this is the show. >> jimmy schultz disappeared, i thought you tried to duck out so you didn't have to defend this idea of executive privilege. >> no way. >> why -- do you believe that
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bannon's lawyers' claim that he can't comply because trump exercised executive privilege? do you believe that has any teeth? >> the big question is whether that privilege carries beyond the end of the presidency, after the president has left. that hasn't been tested, chris. and i didn't hear what ben had to say about it. but i have to say, that's a tough argument to make. the other question is, beyond whether it's the issue of this -- whether this president, the current president biden, is the only person that can waive that privilege, is whether or not someone who's outside the administration can claim that privilege as well as an adviser to the president, and that's another big question that hasn't been answered. doj in a memo from paul clement a number of years ago, deputy attorney general clement, has indicated he believed this was something that the privilege, the executive privilege, did cover folks who weren't in the
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administration advising the president. so there's a lot of legal issues here that are going to end up making their way through the process. you know, whether you think they're bogus, whether i think they're bogus, the bottom line is they have a claim they're going to make, and they're going to wind up in court, doj trying to enforce it. if doj seeks to enforce it. the other question is, does the biden administration want to curtail their own executive powers that they may want to exercise down the road, a big question that doj and white house counsel are going to have to take into consideration. >> hold on a second. colorable claim, how? no former president has ever exercised -- >> it's never happened, no, never happened. >> not only has it never happened, it's never happened because it can't happen. the privilege goes with the office, not the person. and that's why past presidents ask current presidents to exercise the privilege. >> that's only happened in terms of documents, it hasn't happened as relates to testimony. i agree -- >> it doesn't mean you have a colorable claim just because --
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>> it's something new. >> let's let ben get in. >> they're going to have an ability to make an argument. >> that doesn't mean you get a case. >> it does not mean it's a colorable claim. besides, let's remember what we're talking about here. the trump argument is going to have to be, and the biden administration would have to sign off on this, that the official acts that are being covered by executive privilege are breaking into the capitol and trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power by certifying the electoral college. how that fits into the notion of what executive privilege is supposed to cover, i really don't know. >> i mean, look, the better argument here -- >> i think that's the -- i think that's the better argument, though, if i'm on the other side of this and i'm sitting there saying, okay, what was the privilege intended to cover? so let's -- >> he doesn't have a privilege. >> what was the privilege intended to cover? i agree with ben in that in this instance, it's going to be very
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hard to argue that it's in the national interests to protect that privilege. right? >> but you don't even have a privilege to exercise, and there's a reason that this has only happened when former presidents have asked current ones, jim. >> right. they asked current presidents, and it's traditionally been the current presidents who grant that privilege. it will be interesting to see because biden hasn't said one way or the other on this. jen psaki said -- >> the white house said no. >> the white house said no in a press, but they said case-by-case basis. >> yeah, this is the first case, they said no. >> proof in the pudding is going to be whether merrick garland and the justice department get off the bench and get in the game. >> right, that's right. >> i totally agree with that. >> it will be up to doj, 100%. >> it is, which is why congress couldn't wait to get it to them. that's why they're going to have their vote. jimmy, the only reason this doesn't go bad is because the optics are bad. when you started mentioning biden, i thought you were going to say, does biden really want
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to make bannon a martyr? does he want to have this guy sitting out there as someone who seems he was unfairly punished? although i don't think that's true under the facts. i've got to jump. i appreciate it. ben, thank you very much. jimmy, appreciate you, thank you for not running away when your picture went out, i know you had second thoughts. no, i'm kidding. thank you very much to both. we're going to keep an eye on tonight's breaking news at the top of the show. we have learned former president bill clinton was hospitalized tuesday. he's still in the hospital now. not about his heart. does not sound serious according to what sanjay gupta learned from doctors. they believe it's a blood infection. it's not nothing, okay? it's not covid related. somehow he got sepsis. now, you hear about people getting that in the hospital. he did not get it in the hospital, but he was brought to the hospital for it, meaning he had infection somewhere necessarily his body and it got into his blood and it requires iv antibiotics that the doctors say he is responding well to. we'll stay on that.
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if we learn anything else, i'll come right to you. january 6th. don't get caught thinking that that is just about the past. january 6th is also very much a concern because of what is still going on. have you heard the story behind this flag that has become a rallying symbol on the right? wait until you see where our flag was displayed and why that flag, not the american flag, that specific american flag was chosen. and it's about trump. but he may now be an enemy to both parties. why? this guy will answer. philip bump, "washington post," next. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ got a couple of bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? woooooooooooooo...
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and see who you are. and that's just part of the bargain. ♪ president joe biden won virginia by more than 10 points. but now supporters of the republican candidate for governor there are pledging allegiance to a flag that was flown at trump's rally in d.c.
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on january 6th. >> i also want to invite kim from chesapeake. she's carrying an american flag that was carried at the peaceful rally with donald j. trump on january 6th. [ cheers and applause ] i ask you all to rise and join us as mark lloyd leads us in the pledge. >> how do you smile and applaud somebody telling you that this was part of the capitol insurrection? what is the pledge of allegiance? what is the pledge of allegiance to you, if you applaud what happened on january 6th? is anybody thinking anymore when they take these kinds of positions? to support this kind of
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ugliness? the gop candidate that that event was for, glenn youngkin, he wasn't at the rally, it was on his behalf. he is calling what happened there weird and wrong. >> so to be clear, i don't think -- if that -- i wasn't involved, so i don't know. but if that is the case, then we shouldn't pledge allegiance to that flag. by the way, i've been so clear. there is no place for violence, none, none, in america today. we have our right to assemble and protest protected in this great country and in this great commonwealth, but there is no room for violence. >> there's plenty of room for violence. there's plenty. it's because of accommodation that is made by people in his party. that's why we had january 6th, when too many of them were too quiet about the capitol attack. you know who was just fine with
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the attack and the flag ceremony? trump, who called in to the rally, and of course revved up the crowd. and it was a rally for you, and you accepted trump's endorsement. can he have it both ways? philip bump, what did you think of that? >> it's definitely odd, right? it is strange to have a particular flag that is associated with that day that is the one that is being the center of -- the pledge of allegiance, which is, you know, to the flag, but also more broadly, about the united states. it really exemplifies how donald trump is trying to turn the republican party not only into something he has control over, but something which is focused on his core desires and fetishizes things like january 6th and his false claims of election fraud. he really wants it to be centered on him and that event and that pledge to that flag was a way of manifesting exactly that behavior.
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>> so what does it tell us? biden wins virginia. you've got mcauliffe in a tough race with youngkin. mcauliffe expected right now is likely not to win. but that this is the avenue for the republican cause, what does it mean? >> i think it's reinforcement of the fact that the republican party is really torn in half. i mean, i say that, i use that expression, obviously the tear has some stitches and threads holding it together. but there are two different parties. there is the party that glenn youngkin wants to be the face of as he's campaigning in virginia. he wants to be the, i'm the moderate, regular old virginia republican you're used to from years gone by. at the same time, he has to urn
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out president trump's base of support. he has to do things, like quietly going on the radio program and kiss up to the more maga-y side of the republican party. he's tried hard to walk that line. i'm sure he's frustrated by the fact that this event happened yesterday because it forces him to pick a side. he can't quiet he reach out to maga folks and appeal to mainstream republicans, at some point the tension breaks. that's the tension the party is facing with the key question of, will trump's people vote for republicans anyway, which i think is the test in virginia. >> absolutely. that is a great place to end for now. because we'll end on this suggestion. donald trump has been telling people -- now, this may have hurt him in his last election. he's saying, if they don't fix that fraud from 2020, you shouldn't vote. is that party going to get hoisted on his petard? we will see. philip bump, thank you so much. how do we get to a better place? it's all so ugly. how do we travel beyond the ugliness? how do we find a new frontier? i know who we need. the captain, who just did exactly that. shatner is here to tell us why
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william shatner back on earth after hitching a ride aboard blue origin, the rocket company owned by jeff bezos. this is the moment that the star trek legend, the original captain kirk, experienced zero gravity after setting a new record as the oldest person in space at 90 years young. and it is what he said when he came back down that made me want to invite him on the show. listen to this. >> what you have given me is the most profound experience i can imagine. i'm so filled with emotion about
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what just happened. i just -- it's extraordinary. extraordinary. this is life, and that's that, and in an instant you go, whoa, that's death. that's what i saw. >> that's amazing. that's amazing. >> i am -- i am overwhelmed. >> all these years as an actor and maybe his most powerful moment on screen came when he wasn't acting at all. william shatner joins us on "prime time." congratulations, and it's good to have you. >> thank you. i watch you all the time, you're a wonderful, wonderful commentator. it's a joy to hear you, and i'm so glad to be on your program. you know, of course you need to talk about the dark things that are happening, the dramatic things that can affect us all. here i am actually adding to your darkness. i wish i could bring a message
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of lightness to leaven the terrible news you keep announcing, because it is terrible news, the way the country's being torn asunder. and this is another even more important fact that moved me to tears. because when i saw the bright blue covering of earth that's only 50 miles wide, and we plunged through at 2,500 miles an hour, broke through it, then all of a sudden like a punch in the face there was the blackness of space. none of the mystery of the twinkling stars, the galaxies, just pure blackness. because the sun was in my face and the wind, whatever the reasons were -- space is cold and ominous and ugly, and it really threatens death. there's death there. and you look down, and there's this warm, nurturing planet. we've all heard, it's cliche, vulnerable, fragile, all that
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kind of thing. but it's even more than that. that's death up there and life down here. and between the two, ruining this planet as we are, we're on the verge -- to bring you the good news -- that we're at the tipping point. we haven't got time to wait 30 years and argue about a few billion dollars, which we should -- how much should we invest in global warming? we're there. and so all these terrible things happening in the body politic is merely a hesitation before we all -- i mean, it's just terrible. i wish i had better news and more entertainment and jokes to tell you. but i was moved to tears by what i saw. and i come back, filled and overwhelmed with sadness and empathy for this beautiful thing we call earth. >> but i think that there is a
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promise in the truth of that for you, which i think, you know, it lets people know what really matters. and that once you're up above it all, literally. and one of the members of my team found something that is so cool to me, because it's from "star trek." and it's something that you were saying as a line as an actor. i want to ask you what the line means to you now that you've actually lived it. i'll play it for everybody, you'll remember the scene when you see it. >> you know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves. an irrational fear of the unknown. there's no such thing as the unknown, only things temporarily hidden, temporarily not understood. all decks, stand by. captain out. >> we are the enemy. there is no unknown. only what is not understood in the moment. what does that line mean to you now? >> well, you know, all these things are true, and they're not true, cliches, they're not cliches. what is true is this.
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it is the human tendency, no matter whether it's your personal life, your business life, your love life -- if it's not going well, it's better -- you know, i won't talk, i won't come home, or i'll be quiet, or i won't say anything. it's so much easier. burying your head in the sand another instant about global warming and the destruction of the planet is suicide for all of us. and, you know, i'm ready to -- not ready to go, but i've experienced the earth a lot longer than most people. what is tragic is if our children, especially our children's children, don't have a chance to be part of this beautiful thing we call earth. and it's just sad. so it doesn't leaven the terrible things that are happening in washington and the stupidity of the human beings who have put themselves first and not mankind, let alone their country.
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it is irrational. >> are you surprised by how impacted you were? >> flabbergasted. i -- i -- i was sobbing, and i couldn't control it, because i was overwhelmed. it was like death and life -- it was -- i couldn't control it for several minutes afterwards. and although i've been speaking about it today because everybody's interested, it apparently went -- >> viral. >> it hit the news, viral, all over the world. i wrote a song in my album that i've got out now called "bill" which is so far from the moon. when i was at my depth of loss of everything, i was so far from the moon, brad paisley accompanies me on it. the irony of me going closer to the moon and having this kind of success is ironic because things
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are falling apart. and i wanted -- and that's why i was overwhelmed. i wanted to -- i didn't think consciously of bringing back the message. but i was wondering, why am i surprised? what is overwhelming with emotion to the point i can hardly speak? i'm an actor, i should be able to control it. i was unable to. it's like hearing the death of someone you love, suddenly the world no longer exists but this blinding emotional moment. >> look, i wouldn't shy away from it because i think the authenticity is so impressive to so many. you mentioned the song and the album, do you mind if i play a little of it? >> no, please. >> here you go. ♪ the apollo mission took off the planet watched enthralled ♪ ♪ but man's greatest achievement made this man feel so small ♪
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♪ i stared up at the sky the stars like little pins ♪ ♪ armstrong took a giant leap while i held it in ♪ ♪ it was 4 in the morning dawn was coming through ♪ ♪ but i was bound by gravity ♪ >> what a cool multi media presentation that is, by the way. >> the whole album is like that. and brad paisley, among many other wonderful musicians, are part of that album. and it's getting great reviews. but what i bring back from all that is we have to work, and we have to work quickly at this. we have to unite. among many things that we have to unite on it's all just human beings. i don't understand the inability to see what's coming our way and how we have to stand up to it
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with everything that this incredibly strong country has. and we can lead and we can provide. a base philosophy of getting rid of the polluting industries up there is a very practical one. the technology exists now. but we have to do something about global warming now, before we all are affected by it. >> i tell you this, captain, i don't think the gift was the trip. i think the gift is what you brought back. because you have a conviction about what matters and why, that even with your time on earth i'm sure has never been equaled as it is in your head and your heart right now. william shatner, i'm not just a fan of your work, i'm a fan of what you've been able to make people think about in your real life. and i wish you good luck with your new album "bill." thank you for joining us, sir. >> thank you for having me. we'll take a break. when we come back, breaking news on our watch.
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former president bill clinton, 75 years old, in the hospital tonight. we have more information. sanjay is here, and we'll give you the update right after this.
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breaking news on former president clinton. we've learned on our watch that he is in the hospital in orange county, california. he has been there since tuesday. but things seem okay. this is about a urinary tract infection. however, that infection spread to his bloodstream, a condition known as sepsis. now, sanjay is told by his doctors and staff that things seem to be going well at this point. a spokesman says he is on the
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mend. but here's more. president clinton was taken to uc irvine medical center, diagnosed with an infection. he was admitted to the icu for close monitoring and administered iv antibiotics and fluids. he remains at the hospital for continuous monitoring. after two days of treatment, his white blood cell count is trending down and he is responding well to antibiotics. the california-based medical team has been in constant communication with the president's new york-based medical team, including his cardiologist. we hope to have him go home soon. let's check with dr. sanjay gupta right now. you guessed right when we were speaking at the top of the show. you said these usually originate somewhere else, maybe in the kidneys or urinary tract, and sure enough, that's what they say it is. what does it mean? >> yes, so sounds like this was a urinary tract infection that became something known as urosepsis. as point out, it spread this urinary tract infection, to his bloodstream. he wasn't feeling well in tuesday. he was in california for a foundation-related event. fatigued is what i was told.
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that was -- it was vague symptoms. went to the hospital, uc irvine. got tested for covid, as everyone does when they go to the hospital, not covid. they determined it was not related to his heart. they started zeroing in on the fact that he had infection his blood. the doctors now saying the infection originated in his urinary tract. they say he's responding well to antibiotics, that he's feeling better, also that his fever and his white blood cell count, a marker of infection, are also going in the right direction that he might even leave the hospital tomorrow. i spoke to dr. lisa bardack, his primary physician in new york, and dr. alpesh amin at uc irvine, they say he's in the icu but primarily for safety and privacy more than anything else, not an indication of the level of care necessary. he's not on a breathing machine. he is getting iv antibiotics. it sounds if things continue to go in the right direction, possibly leaving tomorrow and staying on oral antibiotics for a period of time.
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the former secretary, hillary clinton, his wife, is also in southern california. she was there already. she didn't fly out because of his illness, she was already there. and may be in and out of the hospital, depending on covid protocols. so that's the news as we know it right now. i had conversation with the staff, chris, but also his doctors, as i mentioned. that's sort of how they're laying things out. they think he's doing okay, he was joking with the staff, complaining about the hospital food. they were telling me these anecdotes as a little bit of color to give you a sense of how he's feeling overall, chris. >> look, it's indicative, obviously. it's a little spooky that he's been in there for several days. people aren't that familiar with blood infection, but they do take time to treat in anybody,
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let alone a 75-year-old. but really, does anything worry you at all about this, or do you think it all sounds like this was the way it goes? >> well, you know, first when i heard, when i was first talking to them and you described sepsis in a 75-year-old, i was worried and i wanted to speak to his doctors, which they allowed us to do. when i spoke to them and definitively said, look, he's had heart surgery, 2004, stents in 2010. any relationship here? they said no, definitively not related to his heart. >> good. >> obviously you hear about covid, you think, is this something that has gotten worse, pneumonia that turned into sepsis? they say no, not at all related to covid. people are going to worry about sepsis when they hear that term. that's why i want to question of you the context. it sounds like it was caught early.
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sometimes with urinary tract infections, they're caught late and people can have significant spread to the bloodstream before it's really caught. it sounds like in his case they got there early enough, and he's responding to these antibiotics. you've always got to be cautious. he's 75. it's not that old, but you've got to be cautious. they may keep him in the hospital another day, maybe longer. that wouldn't necessarily indicate a higher level of concern, just making sure he's getting enough of the iv antibiotics. so overall, we pressed them on it sounds like he's on the mend. >> dr. gupta, thank you very much. we appreciate that. we'll be right back. ustomize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? you got it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ why hide your skin if dupixent
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