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announcement that will get things you buy to you, to the shelf faster. i'm joined by the executive director of the ports cardona. i apologize, mario. and the president of the international longshoreman's union, willie adams. los angeles and long beach with home to two of the large st pors in america, and together these ports are among the largest in the world, and the best way to make that point is that 40%, 40% of shipping containers that we import into this country come through these two ports. and today we have some good news. we're going to help speed up the delivery of goods all across america. after weeks of negotiation and working with my team, and with the major union retailers and
freight movers, the ports of los angeles, the port of los angeles announced today that it's going to begin operating 24 hours a day, seven days a week. this follows the port of long beach's commitment to 24/7 that it announced just weeks ago. 24/7 system, what most of the leading countries in the world already operate on now, except us, until now. this is the first key step toward moving our entire freight, transportation and logistical supply chain nationwide to a 24/7 system. and here's why it matters. traditionally our ports have only been open during the week, monday through friday, and they're generally closed down at nights and on weekends. by staying open seven days a week through the night and on the weekends, the port of los angeles will open over 60 extra hours a week will be open. in total, that will almost
double the number of hours that the port is open for business from earlier this year. that means an increase in the hours for workers to be moving cargo off ships on to trucks and rail cars to get to their destination. and more than that, the night hours are critical for increasing the movement of goods because highways, highways are less crowded in the evening, at night. in fact, during off peak hours in los angeles, cargo leaves the port at a 25% faster pace than during the day shift. so by increasing the number of late night hours of operation and opening up for less crowded hours when the goods can move faster, today's announcement has the potential to be a game changer. i say possibly. because all of these goods won't move by themselves. for the positive impact to be felt all across the country and by all of you at home, we need
major retailers who ordered the goods and the freight movers who take the goods from the ships to factories and stores to step up as well. these private sector companies are the ones that hire the trucks and rail cars and move the goods. on this score, we have some good news to report as well. today walmart, our nation's largest retailer is committing to go all in on moving its products 24/7 from the ports to their stores nationwide. specifically, walmart is committing as much as 50% increase in the use of off peak hours over the next several weeks. additionally, fedex and ups, two of our nation's biggest freight movers are committing today to significantly increase the amount of goods they're moving at night. fedex and ups are the shippers for some of our nation's largest stores but they also ship for tens of thousands of small
businesses all across america. their commitment to go all in on 24/7 operations means that businesses of all sizes will get their goods on shelves faster and more reliably. accordingly, according to one estimate, together, fedex and ups alone move up to 40% of packages in america, up to 40%. and other companies are stepping up as well. they include target, home depot, and samsung that have all committed to ramp up their committees and utilize off peak hours at the ports. so the commitments being made today are a sign of major progress in moving goods from manufacturers to a store or to your front door. i want to thank my supply disruption task force, which we set up in june, led by secretaries buttigieg, romando
and vilsack, and brian doeist, and i want to thank them for their leadership. and joe has done a great job, my special envoy, who has been working this issue with all the stake holders the past several weeks. i want to thank the port directors, gene and mario, and the mayors of los angeles long beach, mayor garcetti and mayor garcia for their leadership. i think the private companies that are stepping up, i want to thank them, thank them, but i particularly want to thank labor. willie adams of the longshoreman and warehouses union who is here today, the teamsters, rail unions from the brotherhood of railroad singleman, and the american train dispatchers association, sheet metal, air and rail, and transportation workers union known as smart. i want to be clear, this is
across the board commitment to going to 24/7. that is big first step in speeding up the movement of materials and goods through our supply chain. but now we need the rest of the private sector chain to accept up as well. this is not called a supply chain for nothing. this means that terminal operators, railways, trucking companies, shippers, and other retailers as well. strengthening our supply chain will continue to be my team's focus. if federal support is needed, i'll direct all appropriate action and if the private sector doesn't step up, we're going to call them out and ask them to act because our goal is not only to get through this immediate bottleneck but to address the long standing weaknesses in our transportation supply chain that this pandemic has exposed. i might add parenthetically one of the reasons why i think it's very important that we get the infrastructure plan passed, my
infrastructure plan. that supply chain system is almost entirely in the hands of private business. the world has changed. prior to the crisis we cheered, you know, the focus on lean, efficient supply chains leaving no buffer or margin for error when it comes to certain parts arriving just in time as needed to make a final project. our administration, barack and ours, just in time was the focus. we didn't have a pandemic and other things at the time. we need to take a longer view, though, invest in building greater resilience to withstand the kinds of shocks we have seen over and over, year in and year out, whether it's the pandemic, extreme weather, climate change, cyber attacks or other disruptions. in fact, research tells us that a company can expect to lose over 40% of one year's earnings
every ten years due to supply chain disruptions. a longer term view means we invest in systems that have more time built in, and our ability to produce, innovate and partner with our allies. it also means companies throughout the supply chain like maritime, air freight and trucking companies reduce their carbon emissions and help to meet our climate change goals. it also means creating and supporting good paying jobs so pokes want to stay in these jobs so they can build the skills and careers and make a decent living. it means more opportunities of joining a union, especially for truckers. these steps are critical. they allow companies to pivot qui quickly when a disruption hits because they have invested in their workers, their workers skills, and training up front to be able to adapt. we need to invest in making more of our products right here in the united states. never again should our country
and our economy be unable to make critical products we need because we don't have access to materials to make that product. never again should we have to rely too heavily on one company or one country or one person in the world, particularly when countries don't share our values when it comes to labor and environmental standards. i've said before we're in the competition for the 21st century. we are america. we still have the most productive workers and the most innovative minds in the world, but the rest of the world is closing in, and we risk losing our edge if we don't step up. in order to be globally competitive, we need to improve our capacity to make things here in america, while also moving finished products across the country and around the world. we need to think big and bold. that's why i'm pushing for a once in a generation investment in our infrastructure and our people. with my infrastructure bill and my build back better act.
these bills would transform our ports, billions of dollars for ports. highways, rail systems, sorely need upgrading. and would bring products faster and more efficiently from the factories to the store to the house. let me be clear, we're proposing to make the biggest investment in ports in our history. the bill would also make investments in our supply chains and manufacturing and strengthening our ability to make more goods from the beginning to end right here in america. the bottom line we've seen the cost of inaction and the pandemic and the delays and the congestion that affect every american. but it's fully within our capacity to act to make sure it never happens again. it's going to take a little time, and that we've unlocked the full might and dynamism of our economy and our people. that's what we're going to do. god bless you all and may god
bless the longshoremen, rail workers, truckers, and all the workers keeping our economy going. may god predict ootect our troo. thank you all so very much. president biden announcing some changes that will be coming to ports in california, now operating 24/7 to try to alleviate this bottleneck. matt eagan told us a few minutes ago, upwards of 70 full cargo ships to bring the goods in. >> he also said that walmart will be doing more, so will fedex and ups. and moving day and night. and fedex and ups are the biggest merchandise movers and think that will begin to make a debt. >> joining us now, former labor secretary, robert reich, the impact you believe, i should say you're the author of "the system who rigged it how we fixed it,"
the significance of what the president announced and how quickly we'll see alleviation from the change. >> it's a very important step but it's just one step because there are supply bottlenecks all over this country. it's not just international, and so the administration really does need to try to do everything possible to alleviate those bottlenecks. how long is it going to take? very good question. i think probably if the administration acts very very quickly, it could be a month, a month and a half, that's still in kind of political time, in political time span, that's not very much time. in economic time, that's pretty quickly, but nevertheless, the economy is clearly feeling the effects of these supply shocks in terms of inflation. now, again, this is not inflation in terms of permanent
inflation. this is inflation in terms of having limited supply at the same time that we have great pent up demand coming out of the worst of the coronavirus, the worst of the pandemic, and supply and demand simply are out of sync. >> you sent me in two different directions, and we'll try to hit both of them. if these changes are impacted, there could be alleviation in a month. that would be of the bottleneck of getting cargo ships into port and getting the containers off, but how long do we expect the elevated inflation, the consumer price index we have seen above 5% now, how long do you expect that will stretch into 2022? >> that could stretch into four or five, possibly even six months. i doubt more than six months. but let's keep this in perspective. these elevated prices are to be expected when you're coming out of any national crisis. we saw it after the two world
wars, we certainly, we don't have good records for the last pandemic of 1918, but it was predictable that after any kind of national emergency, you've got pent up demand, and supply shocks all over the system. >> yeah. you know, the other direction, comment of bringing them in sends me is that once they get into port, there's a shortage of dock workers. there's also a shortage of truck drivers and i know from reading your opinion piece in the guardian this morning is that you don't think there is a label shortage and what we're seeing is a necessary pain. explain why. >> well, this is a larger theme and a very important issue. that is american workers now, if you look at the numbers who are quitting their jobs or are not going back to work, american workers know they have right now a great deal of bargaining leverage. they have not had in years, because at the same time you've
got this big pent up demand for goods and services, workers say to themselves, well, we don't necessarily have to return to work right away, but we've socked away a little bit of money. it's not these federal unemployment payments because those payments stopped in labor day but a lot of workers now feel that they have a little bit of luxury to wait and see, reevaluate, if they don't have to return to the same lousy jobs they had before, and you have this all over the country. in fact, to some extent it is related to more strike activity and the organized union sector of the economy. >> now, you tweeted this, ending the expanded unemployment benefits didn't get people back to work but living wages, paid leave, child care, good health care and the right to join a union would. some of that would be handled by the social safety net bill that the president talked about and we'll talk about that in a moment, but on the issue of wages, what do you tell the o
owner of a medium sized business, under 100 employees, facing the higher cost of shipping, fuel, and here robert reich says there should be added cost of wages increase that as well. at some point, they say the incentive to operate this business becomes less attractive. to them you say what? >> the reality is that most of the cost factors that you mention, that is raw materials and shipping and everything else, those are temporary. those will be over in six months. hopefully before six months. >> if they can make it six months, mr. secretary. >> yes. we've been through a terrible pandemic. i mean, a lot of small businesses have suffered. but individuals make up this economy. workers make up this economy. workers do need a raise if they
possibly can get a raise. the typical worker in this country if you adjust for inflation has not had a raise in four years. it is appropriate there be higher wages paid and that's good for the economy, overall, that's good for the economy because more money in people's pockets means they can buy things. >> let me ask you about the pair of bills on capitol hill, the president just pitched them again during this remarks. alisyn spoke with pramila jayapal at the top of the last hour, and really much of what congress congresswoman jayapal said weeks ago. why should democrats believe they're going to pass these if they're going to get both done when there is an impasse they have been sitting at for weeks now. >> well, the biggest impasse, let's be very clear about this, has to do with two senators, joe manchin, and kyrsten sinema. they are the ones who are holding this up.
the vast majority of democrats in the house and the senate are fully behind these two pieces of legislation, the infrastructure and the social infrastructure bill. so the real question is what kind of negotiations are going on behind the scenes between the white house on the one hand, and manchin and sinema on the other hand. i don't know obviously, but this is not democrats in disarray. this is democrats facing two people, two senators that are basically saying no. >> but we have been at this point, they have been at this point for weeks now, if not months. what is the progress that should make democrats confident that the party leadership, that their representatives are going to pass this legislation? >> well, here's what makes me confident. i think that there is already joe manchin will put a number on the table he will put along
with. i think kyrsten sinema will probably go along as well. >> based on what? what do you know about kyrsten sinema the rest of us don't? >> well, i certainly don't have any inside knowledge, but let me tell you this, i think based upon my knowledge of politics going back 50 years that you've got so much at stake here, not only for the democratic party but for the united states that you ultimately, and for joe biden and his legacy, you're going to have a compromise at the end of the day. the question is the end of the day going to be next week or a month? it should be before the end of the year because we're going to be in the gravitational pull of the midterm elections. i don't know what is going to take kyrsten sinema to come around but i can tell you this, that there's going to be more and more pressure on her, not just from washington politicians but from people in arizona, her own constituents are going to say we want this, we want that, we want paid leave.
we want community college. we want child care. these are things that are going to benefit her constituents, and let me refer you everyone knows at the bottom line is their own constituents. >> we saw this pressure on senator manchin, and senator sinema when it came to the filibuster on voting rights, and police reform, and so many other elements, and they didn't move off of those. i have one more, we learned that the vaccine mandates led to a 3% health care work force reduction because of the requirements. sounds like a small percentage, 3% represented many many positions in that sector, specifically, and of course we know the mandates are aimed at a greater good to protect the public mental hhealth, but do ya degree of concern that the
vaccine mandates are going to exacerbate the labor shortage problem. >> they might conceivably exacerbate a labor shortage problem, but that has to be weighed against the public health as you pointed out. i don't think there's any question, unless and until we get this entire pandemic behind us, the economy is not going to be healed. we're not going to have the jobs we had before, and so some sort of 3% or small effect in the short-term unemployment is tiny compared to what's at stake over the longer term. >> former labor secretary, robert reich, thank you, sir. >> thanks. now to the outer space. >> let's do that. >> captain kirk made history becoming the oldest person ever to launch into space. william shatner speaks with cnn next. ♪i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers♪
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william shatner, captain kirk has completed his space mission as part of the second civilian launch as part of jeff bezos' blue origin. the 90-year-old successfully left the earth's atmosphere early this morning. the journey took nearly 11 minutes. >> at its peak, the blue origin traveled 350,000 feet above the ground level, reaching speeds of 2,000 miles per hour. and the crew experienced weightlessness for a full three minutes. cnn's kristen fisher spoke with
shatner and the rest of the blue origin's crew a few minutes ago. what did they tell you about this experience? >> reporter: well, victor, when william shatner first got out of that capsule on the desert floor earlier today, he made what i thought was one of the most compelling cases for space tourism that i have ever heard. i mean, in this era of quite a bit of backlash against billionaires spending a lot of their fortunes on getting people into space, people accused of them of taking joyrides into sfas. i th -- into space. when i asked him about it, he did not like my characterization of space tourism and when i said, you know, well, why -- he said the world needs to see it. people need to see it. when i asked him why we need to see it. here's what he said. >> everybody in the world needs to have the philosophical understanding of what we're doing to earth and the -- and you'll hear this so often, the
necessity of cleaning, stopping right now, the apocalypse that's coming our way. but until you're up there and you see the blackness, the starkness, the ugliness from our point of view, of course, space is filled with mystery and all of that and cosmos, people who study the universe will shutter at what i'm saying, but in that moment, it's blackness and death. in this moment down here as we look down, was life and nurturing, that's what everybody needs to know! >> reporter: so william shatner making it very clear today that he believes he saw death, kind of a pree view of it, the stark line between the blueness of earth and darkness of space. and i talked to an executive at blue origin, critical of developing this rocket. she described today a chance to ride the rocket she has been instrumental in building, she described it as a thrill of her lifetime, and a question for the
two paying customers on board this mission, glenn and chris, and you know, nobody has said how much they actually paid for this trip to space. i knew they probably weren't going to like the question but i had to ask it anyway. they wouldn't say but they did say if they had the chance they would do it again, and that whatever they paid, it was absolutely worth it. victor, and alisyn. >> kristen fisher. >> really interesting. >> thank you so much. joining us now is adam frank, he's an astro physics professor at rochester university. professor, thank you so much for being here. i know that you think that what happened today was bigger than just space tourism for billionaires, so what is it that we saw? >> well, you know, first of all, i just have to say like go kirk. that was a beautiful explanation of the importance of getting people into space so they can see really what's at stake. you know, what i think is really interesting about this is that it's really a testimony to the human imagination, and what i mean by that is sort of the power, you know, the power of
science fiction and the stories it tells us about a hopeful human future. who is william shatner, he's just an actor, but james t. kirk, he isthey are all a part r imagination about a vibrant human future that includes space, so i think that's really the importance of james kirk being in space today. >> what i love is the juxtaposition, adam, of jeff bezos' reaction after he landed, what, back in july, popping bottles and pumping fists, and then this emotional and philosophical resonance from william shatner, and i wonder when we watch the science of this, when the new shepherd rocket lands, something that the shuttle mission was never able to accomplish, just the remarkable element there that this program has pulled off. >> i think the amazing thing here is that what we're seeing is the next step really in space
travel and that it's more -- we will continue to explore spagce but now we're beginning to have a human presence. i'm interested in when we start having jobs in space than tourists. space tourism is important. it's really, once we get lots of people in space, living and working, becoming part of a vibrant economy, you'll have enough of humanity, recognizing that the earth is the only home. you cannot mess with the planet. we have so much science denial and climate denial that the more people can understand that there is this thin, thin veil that separates us from the cold death vacuum of space, kirk is right, the faster we're going to be able to take care of the problems we have on earth. >> but just out of curiosity, what are those space jobs? >> well, i mean, you can imagine that within 20, 30, 40 years, mining asteroids to be able to build things in space, you can -- there's manufacturing that you can probably do in space that you can't do anywhere
else. it's possible perhaps to generate power in space and beam it back down to earth, so really the options are almost limitless. it just really depends upon our imaginations and as i said, within 50 years, 60 years, i can imagine quite a human presence in space, and then, you know, the future of humanity is the solar system. >> kristen tried to get the price of those two seats from the paying customers. they said they would do it again, which means they're rich enough to do it twice. that's all we need to know. when do you expect it will come down to something that is within the range of the rest of us? >> that's an interesting question because i think, you know, when we talk about this, we should never forget the real problems of income inequality that this highlights. right, that one guy can have his own space program now really highlights something that we shouldn't have allowed to have happen. still, there's a way in which bezos and others were doing was inevitable, i think, if we take
the right path, and it's hard for me to say how long, i do think there will be jobs people can take in space before, you know, the price of a ticket into space is the same as an airline ticket to florida. >> wasn't it just interesting to hear william shatner at 90 years old basically experience this, i don't know, kpis existential re. and i know other people who have gone into space have that life altering experience. >> almost everyone does. if you're up there long enough and you see the earth for what it is, you're changed forever. you know, as an astronomer, i'm close to this because i have been living with it, even though i have never seen it, my whole life, but for people to understand really where we are, that we're on this rock, hurdling through space, with this beautiful majesty, this intricate mechanism of life going on across the whole planet, then some ways we have forgotten that and forgotten at
our own peril. it can't be soon enough that we get people to really understand what a planet is, and what our place within the life of a planet is. not on top of it, not its masters but woven into its fabric, that is essential for us to continue to have a civilization for the next thousand, 2,000, 100,000 years. >> we watched this a couple of months ago but it does not get old watching the full experience. adam frank, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. in just the last three months, nearly 100,000 covid deaths could have been prevented by the widel y available vaccine. we've got some pretty stunning analysis for you next. plus, more republicans in congress are cheering on a possible donald trump presidential bid in 2024, all while appearing to whitewash the insurrection.
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here's a sobering number. 90,000 lives could have been spared by the covid-19 vaccine. that's according to the kaiser family foundation which looked at data from the past three months and found the overwhelming majority of those who died from the virus were unvaccinated. >> cnn health reporter jacqueline howard joins us now. how did they come up with that number? >> it is a sobering number, and
how they came up with it, researchers, like you said, victor, they did look at death rates, deaths cause bid covid-19 from june to september, and they took into account the effect effectiveness of the vaccine. that's how they were able to estimate ou90,000 of them could have been saved by covid-19 vaccines. like i said, they looked at the last three months but in the month of september alone, covid-19 was the second leading cause of death. the only other disease, heart disease caused more deaths last month than covid, but covid came in number two as you saw there. so that was really surprising in this data. the main tack away message is that vaccines work, vaccines can save lives but obviously there's still some people here in the united states who are vaccine hesitant, and it's interesting that the national academies of
science, engineering and medicine have some advice on how to speak with someone who might be vaccine hesitant. they put out this report and they recommend to stress what is new about vaccines. when you do so, it helps people think of themselves as good decision makers, and they're kind of digesting that information that you share to make a decision themselves. so for instance, the report says that in effect you can say this, you can say this is something you could not have known at the time but that you would want to take into account now as any good decision maker like you would, and go into what the new information is. it could be that the delta variant is more transmissible and vaccines can help with that, or it could be that the fda approved vaccines in august, whatever that new information is, that can be helpful in conversations. >> makes sense. jacqueline howard, thank you. >> thank you. another trump ally is expected to be subpoenaed by the january 6th select committee, and we have the new details on this breaking news next. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus.
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the january 6th select committee is expected to issue yet another subpoena for a trump ally. this is former doj official jeffrey clark. sources also tell us that former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen who served during the final days of the trump administration did speak with committee members today. >> and as the investigation into the insurrection continues, this includes former president trump's role on the january 6th. it closes in now on a in your opinion -- number of high powered people who have represented him in the past, they're not getting involved this time. cnn is part of the team breaking the story. tell us about this new reporting? >> reporter: well, right now what we're seeing around former president donald trump is a very disjointed legal team gearing up for what we believe to be a possible court battle that could be very drawn out in the house as the house continues to
investigate subpoena witnesses and seek documents from the trump presidency. what we know so far is that he does have some lawyers who have worked in the white house for him before, worked on the campaign, sending letters to witnesses, advising what his position is as far as what he wants to protect from his presidency and also talking to the national archives. that's really not the sort of thing you would see at this sort of stage when there is the former president having to deal with big questions of the power of his presidency, and what should be kept confidential. he does get a say in that sort of thing, and so that is a continued discussion they're having where it's not really being led by anyone in particular. now, with this complicated legal battle coming along as we see in the future, potentially, we do know that in past presidencies and even with trump, there were many lawyers taking control, taking a central role and stepping up to direct traffic, essentially, between witnesses, documents, and all sorts of
things that you would see in an investigation. that group has shrunk considerably, especially after january 6th and trump pushing election fraud claims that were unfounded in court. a lot of lawyers are steering clear now from what we have learned. >> we remember some of the more colorful characters on the team. the rudy giuliani, sidney powell, is president trump trying to get them back together again. >> we do know he has reached out to four attorneys that are very high profile and conservative legal circles who had been advising previous people around the president. one of them is bill burke. bill burke was asked multiple times to help trump at this juncture, and he has said no. we learned from a source that burke was uncomfortable with what happened to trump, and what trump was doing after january 6th in court. there are three others, really big names in washington, mark phillip, chuck cooper, all former very high ranking justice department officials that were approached and turned trump down
x we know that previous coordinators, like ty cobb, jay sekulow, names you might remember from the mueller investigation, the previous impeachments of the president, those people are stepping back, they are not involved right now in this effort, and we did ask trump for a comment on this, and he said that he never asked bill burke and the others to get involved right now. he doesn't know who they are right now. they are just looking to get publicity, and he pointed us to the lawyers he has helping him from behind the scenes, coming from the campaign, and white house counsel's office doing little things to support his legal effort. back to you. >> thank you for all of that reporting. >> with us now, cnn chief political analyst, gloria borger, and cnn political commentator, charlie dent, a former republican congressman. gloria, first to you, this breaking news on both the former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen speaking with the january 6th select committee and the potential subpoena for jeffrey clark, former acting head of the
civil division of doj. if you're going to get to the bottom of the big lie and its influence and who was involved with the insurrection you would expect you have to get both of those people on record? >> right. i mean, jeffrey rosen is immensely important because he's the one who said to donald trump one way or another i am not going to do what you want me to do. i am not going to try and fix this election. i am not going to come out and say there's election fraud when we did an investigation and we did not find any. and as for mr. clark, you ehave to talk to him because he was in that meeting, that now infamous meeting in the oval office in which he was trying to push all kinds of ways that you could say, well, this election was rigged, et cetera, et cetera. and, you know, i think you have to talk to him as well, and i think that rosen can give you the story about what was going on inside the justice department
when you had a president of the united states who was trying to put such immense pressure on the department to say something it did not believe to be true. >> charlie, it's interesting to hear what the select committee is doing about january 6th. and obviously they're trying to figure out what donald trump's role in it was and how to stop something like that. but i think that it is equally important for us to focus on what republicans in battle ground states are doing including president trump's inner circle, which is enabling and trying to install secretaries of state in those vital positions. they were the guardrails, republican secretaries of state in battle grounds were some of the guardrails that kept the election being free and fair. and for 2024, you already see lots of president trump's enablers and cronies getting -- trying to get some of those positions. here are just some. these are four in the states of
georgia, arizona, nevada, and michigan, these are people who are election deniers, these are the big lie spreaders. and if they get installed, charlie, i mean, i don't think we can say it strongly enough what that means for democracy. >> i think you're right, alisyn. in fact, in some sptates, by th way, the secretaries of states a appointed by their governors others they are elected. they don't want problems. they want to run fair and clean elections. the same goes for those at the county level too, whether they're republican or democrat, they want to run clean elections. they're not the partisan types, even though they might have an r or d behind their names. this is the most chilling thing i have seen in terms of the impact on our democratic system, if we're actually going to go to that level to go to the election officials who administer elections and try to put people in there who have real agendas, and don't believe in the
well, then that is probably the greatest throw the democracy i can think of. >> gloria, the people expected to stand up and defend the democracy, a lot of them republican members of congress who now say they're on board if trump runs in 2024, even after the insurrection. we hear from a representative in georgia. he said trump didn't have going to do with the january 6th. i think that's a far-fetched idea. jason smith of missouri. to see where our country is right now, i miss him. absolutely miss him, and i would support him. they see what chuck grassley saw. just how popular the president is with the base and looks like the president may run there on board. >> did you ever have an etch-a-sketch when you were a kid where you kind of shake it and it's a clean slate and then you can do your drawing again? that's what's happening. they've got it. they are eracing history. they're trying to erase history. the further and further we get
from january 6th. and they are saying, that wasn't so bad. and actually, you know, i miss him. i miss him because we were, you know, we were a better country when he was president. and seem to conveniently forget about what happened during covid, et cetera, et cetera. so you had members of congress who believe that donald trump, obviously, and they are correct about this, is very popular in the republican party. and that running against him, they believe, is a fool's errand. that they would lose. instead of standing up and saying, i don't think we can forget january 6th, they are, instead, making excuses and saying it's a witch hunt and democrats are just going after him and actually, all things considered, he was a great president. so they're just trying to clear the slate and hoping that the public will agree with him. >> charlie, what is the answer? what's the answer for people who see what's happening to democracy, feel that it's in peril? >> i've been saying for a few years what elected republicans
need to do is stop being silent. they need to speak up, speak loudly. create an alternative narrative. as long as trump is out there making noise, everybody else is silent. silence hasn't worked. everybody else is silent. all they hear is trump. but there's polling out there that's showing one-third of republicans don't want anything to do with trump. over half don't want him to run again. someone needs to carry the banner for that population. they need it. now trump is dominant right now. just talking about how these members are saying they want trump to run again. talk to the republican members in swing districts. i'll tell you, they do not want trump anywhere near the agenda. he is anathema to them. >> these members you're talking about that were just referenced, they're in safe seats. it's all about their primaries. fear of voters, fear of primaries. fear of losing power. that's what this is about. >> 63% of republicans believe that trump should be the leader of the party. but they are split about whether he should actually be the
republican nominee for president because they understand that that comes with a real down side as in motivating democrats to get out and vote. and that's a problem for republicans because the more trump talks about running, the more democrats see this as a threat to democracy and bringing back donald trump, even in 2022. >> all right. gloria borger, charlie dent, thank you. a major milestone in the pandemic. after 18 months locked down, the u.s. is about to reopen its canada and mexico borders. 23
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. in another sign the country is climbing out of the pandemic, the u.s. will open its borders to canada and mexico for fully vaccinated travelers. this move comes after almost 19 months of closure. phase one starts early next month and by early january, all foreign visitors, both essential and nonessential, will be admitted. cnn's paula newton is in ottawa with more. >> reporter: a lot of relief near canada. the biden administration finally relenting and opening its land
borders to canadians. i have to tell you, it isn't just here in canada, but in all of those cross-border communities from washington state to maine, those cities and towns that relied on that cross-border traffic, they are also breathing easier today. now canadians will be allowed in in early november, but there is the issue of having to be fully vaccinated. and the issue is what does that constitute for canadians? many canadians, more than 1 in 10, either have astrazeneca or a mixed dose. might have astrazeneca with pfizer or moderna. they are still awaiting news from the cdc as to whether or not those canadians will be considered fully vaccinated. but there is still a great sense of anticipation now that the border will be open both sides. americans were already let into canada through its land border in august. paula newton, cnn, ottawa. >> paula, thank you. this is great news for those businesses along the border towns that have been missing out
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