tv CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell CNN October 13, 2021 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
hello, everyone. thanks for joining us on newsroom. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. we are watching several developing stories this hour. minutes from now, president biden will address the nation about another side effect of the pandemic. the tangled, clogged, global supply chain. it's driving up prices ahead of the holiday shopping season and slowing the economic recovery. >> and this is a crucial week
for the january 6th select committee. the first round of in-person depositions is scheduled to take place for some of former president trump's closest allies. more documents are due today. and committee members warn that those who do not comply may face criminal contempt charges. plus, captain kirk goes where no other "star trek" character has ever gone before. 90-year-old william shatner becomes the holdest person to travel beyond the earth's atmosphere and he returns with some emotional, profound si insights. >> what you have given me is the most profound experience i can imagine. i'm so filled with emotion about what just happened. i just -- it's extraordinary. extraordinary. i hope i never recover from this. i hope that i can maintain what
i feel now. i don't want to lose it. >> that's really moving. and we will talk more about that in a moment. >> it was really good to hear. but first, to another mission of global proportions, president biden will try today to fix the broken global supply chain. starting today, the port of los angeles will unload ships 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. and there's also an effort to get more licenses for truck drivers. >> a new cnn poll shows that americans are divided on how biden is doing as president. he has a 50% job approval rating, 49% disapproval. and those numbers have not changed much over the last couple of months, despite the slew of crisis that the white house is facing. let's go now to cnn's chief white house correspondent, kaitlan collins. so kaitlan, add the supply chain to the list that the president is going to talk about today. let's talk about this growing sense of urgency within the administration to try to tackle these challenges that they're up against. >> and they're certainly not easy challenges for them to tackle.
and white house officials are already acknowledging pretty bluntly that, yes, what they are doing today is trying to ease those logjams you and see the shortages that are being feudal by that and the inflation being caused by it. but they know this isn't going to be some overnight fix or something that's going to change things in the next several weeks. because experts are predicting, this is only an issue that is going to get worse and it's going to extend for the next several months, potentially longer depending on how this is addressed and how things change, as try try to get back to this pre-pandemic normal. so what you'll see president biden come out and announce one of the biggest and most significant moves is making that port of los angeles operating at a 24/7 basis. so that is around the clock that they are going to be working to try to ease some of these shortages that are driving up prices, causing all of these shortages that are happening. but it's a multi-step process and it's also a global issue. and so white house officials are pretty aware of realistically what the president has in his grasp to do when it comes to this.
but the other issues that are facing him are caused by this. you saw that consumer price index number earlier today, how high it jumped, over 5% in the month of september. these are all issues that are connected for this white house, all issues that they are dealing with. and of course, it is having a drag on the president's public approval ratings from the united states. >> kaitlan, let's dig into more of that cnn polling. how are americans feeling about the two big economic bills. the economic and social safety net structure bills that are stalled in congress at the moment. >> reporter: these are really fascinating numbers. this is something the white house is still dealing with as they're trying to unite democrats over the president's agenda, that much broader package. if you look at these numbers, you see what people think should be the next sppursuit here, whe it comes to including all of the proposals, you have 41% there. but 30%, this idea that has been floating around democrats which is fewer proposals for less cost. a smaller package with not everything that was included in that initial $3.5 trillion
proposal. if you look at the number from democrats, though, when you talk about the preference for this bill and what their support behind it is, you see 75% want them to enact all of the proposals. that seems something to fly in the face of what this argument is, when you're seeing on capitol hill, where there are some democrats who are wanting to slim down and narrow this bill. that is what they have been disputing and fight over the last several weeks, and something they still have not come to agreement on how to proceed. do they take a path where they narrow and scale back the bill, and include everything in it, or cut some things, and include their initial proposals at those costs, but get rid of some of the other aspects. those are big choices facing this white house. and something they're hoping to come to an agreement on sooner rather than later. >> we'll try to get some answers to those right now. kaitlan collins, thank you. and let's talk more about the biden agenda with the chair of the progressive caucus, democratic congresswoman, pramila jayapal. congresswoman, great to have you. >> great to see you, alisyn, yet
again. >> you as well. let's get some answers to that. first of all, i just heard you say on different news network that you had had conversations with senator kyrsten sinema. can you just tell us about what those conversations were and if you got senator sinema to detail any of what her demands are? >> i don't want to overplay it at all. i had one conversation with her and it was a little while ago, maybe a week and a half or two ago, and i'm not going to reveal what we said in that conversation, but i think she is very clear, she is gonegotiatin with the white house, and i think that's important. because obviously, this is the president's agenda, and we are going to make sure that we enact it, but he's an important person in this to really bring along those two people that are still holdouts. >> i had heard you say that you hadn't gotten counterproposals from the two moderates, the moderate democrats, senators sinema and manchin.
and why haven't you gotten those yet? >> well, you know, alisyn, they don't -- from what i've heard, they don't agree with each other on everything, either. 98% of us do disagree so we're waiting for the two of them to agree with each other, and then to submit a counterproposal. and i'm not sure why it's taking so long, but obviously, this is a moment where we're all in agreement. so if somebody else has a different proposal, they should put it on the table. but it doesn't make sense for us to continue to negotiate against ourselves. all of that said, we have gone back through. and we prioritized, as the progressive caucus five months ago, we said, these are the things we want in this bill. we didn't have a list of 500 things. there are a lot more than these five in the bill. we are prioritizing these five and we've said, this is what we need to see and we will take a shorter number of years, for exactly the reason that probably 70% of democrats feel that way, as well.
because how do you pit child care against paid leave? how do you pit pre-k against housing? how do you pit climate change against any of those things? that's why we think it makes sense, if you look at our five priorities, we would be willing to cut down the years a little bit, but we need to have all of those priorities in the bill. >> okay. so in other words, you do not agree with speaker pelosi, who had said her conclusion was that you'll have to do fewer things well. you don't want to do fewer things well. you want to do the same amount of things for a shorter amount of time. >> well, it was a little confusing, what the speaker said, but she did clarify the next day and walked that back and said, actually, there are some things that we will cut out, but when you look at these five priorities and because she was asked specifically about most of the things that are in our priority list, she said, we would likely do those for a shorter period of time. so what she might be saying is,
there are some things that are in here that we would love to do, but they'll probably be cut out. however, the things that the progressive caucus prioritized, the filters we used for that, alisyn, were, will it be transformative? can benefits accrue immediately to people across this country, and will they be universal, you know, in terms of how they affect people. and i think that's how we came to our five and that's why i don't think that those five will be cut out of this package. i think they will be in there, but perhaps for a shorter period of time. and that's what we've been saying all along. >> and is it your impression that the speaker walked that back after talking to you. that it was because of a conversation that you both had where that was clarified? >> i did not have a conversation with her, but a lot of our members texted me that night and said that they were texting her. and so i think she clarified what she meant by that. we do have -- we will be sending a letter on behalf of the
progressive caucus that kind of details exactly where we are on this, and hopefully that will be helpful to make sure that everybody is very clear on what the majority of our caucus is. >> do you worry that the protracted back and forth between the progressives and the moderates about these spending bills for the past two months is hurting other democrats in their state races? and i mean terry mcauliffe, who is running for governor in virginia, and governor phil murphy in new jersey. it sounded like terry mcauliffe thinks it is. so let me just play for you what he said this weekend. >> we've got frustration with washington. you know, why haven't we passed this infrastructure bill? >> it passed the u.s. senate with 69 votes two months ago. i have been very straight on television. we're tired of the chitty chat up in washington. get in a room and get this figured out. >> congresswoman, do you worry that it's hurting other democrats? >> look, i think democrats who are running right now should be
running on the fact that democrats in congress cut child poverty in half with the american rescue plan. democrats got shots in arms and got more americans vaccinated than we have seen than we could have imagined when president biden first came in. democrats got money to small businesses in states like virginia so they could continue through covid. democrats held up state and local government. that's what these candidates should be talking about. it does take time to negotiate. certainly, terry mcauliffe is a consummate politician understands that. and the reality is everybody should be supporting the fact that we need to get the entirety of the president's build back better agenda to his desk. and this is the way we do it, by linking the two bills together. >> it sounds like there is actually a messaging problem. and i'm basing this on this new cnn poll that was just released that asked americans, when asked, if congress were to pass both of these bills, infrastructure and social safety net, only a quarter of americans say that it would help them.
basically, 25% say the impact of the infrastructure and economic bill would make them better off. 32% say worse off, and 43% say about the same. so what's that about? >> you know what that's about, alisyn? everyone wants to focus on the top line number, but we have been trying over and over again to say what is in the bill, because it is overwhelmingly popular when people know what's in the bill. you imagine the impact for people if they had 12 weeks of paid family leave? and i wish we could go through and spend ten minutes on each element so people can understand what's in the bill. so there is a messaging problem and we keep trying to move it back to, what are the elements that we are talking about? universal child care, so no family has to pay more than 7% of their income. family leave for 12 weeks, so that you can take care of your loved ones when you're sick.
housing, so the unhoused can make housing across this country. making sure that we're getting dental, vision, and hearing benefits to seniors on medicare. expanding that, and negotiating prescription drug prices so no american will have to pay more for prescription drugs than any other country, and of course, lifting up our immigrants. those are the things that are in this. and the minute you tell somebody that that's what's in there, they go, oh, that would make a transformative difference for me. so we definitely nooeed help fr all of you to make sure we're not just talking about some random top number, but that we're actually talking about the details. and that's been probably for me one of the best parts of these tv appearances,sy g is i get tok about some of those things. >> and we're glad to give you a conduit to be able to talk about those things. but the top line number, it seems that's where democrats are hung up. it seems like that's where the
battle is between joe manchin and the progressives. so, just humor me with one top-line number here. if you want to shorten the timeline for when the benefits are available, does that affect the topline number? and is that now about $2 trillion? is that what it's come down to? >> you're good,e ealisyn, you'r really good. it definitely affects the topline number. the numbers come out of the programs and the way in which it's structured. so does it get us to $2 trillion? i don't know. i'm not even sure that $2 trillion is the number that's on the table. what if the number was $2.5 trillion. and if we structured the programs the way we wanted, it came out to $2.6 trillion? it makes no sense to talk about the number until we really identify the elements of it and how it's structured. i could see a situation, alisyn, where you could say, okay, a $2.9 trillion package, but has none of our priorities or has them structured in a way that leaves out the majority of the
country. and i would be less in favor of that than i would a program, you know, a passage that's $2.7 trillion, but has all of our priorities structured in the way that we want. that's the reason that it doesn't make sense to look at the topline number. but you're very good. >> speaker pelosi has said her new deadline is october 31st. is that realistic? >> i think we're trying to work as fast as we can, but we're waiting on two people to tell us what they agree on and what they want. the build back better act is written, by the way. it's already written, gone through committees in the house and we have agreement from 96% of us and the president and the american people. so as soon as they tell us, we can start figuring out and negotiating the details of it. obviously, what they say may not be enough for us and that's going to be a negotiation. we have had 29 extensions, short-term extensions of the surface transportation
reauthorization money. and we can certainly do that again. would we like to get it done by october 31st? of course. but that we want more is to get it done, get it done right, pass both bills, and get them to the president's desk. >> while i have you and we talk about the nuances of this level of spending, the january 6th committee is trying to figure out how to stop something like that from happening again. and at the same time, there appears to be a whitewashing of what happened on january 6th from the republican side. and we all remember the video and pictures of you having to hide that day, as did so many of your colleagues and how frightenened everybody was for their lives. so when you hear now -- first of all, all signs suggest that donald trump will be running again in 2024. and all signs suggest that republicans are onboard with that and even encourage it. this congressman in georgia says he didn't have anything to do with january 6th. i think that's a far-fetched idea.
that's from lowder mill in georgia. this republican in missouri says, to see where our country is right now, i miss him. absolutely miss him and i would support him. and then there's senator chuck grassley, who had said that what donald trump had done that day was irresponsible and dangerous. and now he's standing, smiling, side by side with him. what are we to make of what is about to happen if donald trump gets into the race? >> you know, alisyn, it is so dangerous what's happening. and out of all of those that you quoted with, the fact that chuck grassley is there, after seeing what he did post january 6th. the fact that steve scalise could not even say on fox news that joe biden legitimately won the election. i just can't tell you how deeply distressing and dangerous this is for our country to have
republicans make a very political choice, that they are going to go along with the big lie, go along with donald trump. because they're afraid of telling the truth. they're afraid that by telling the truth, they might lose their seats. what good is it to have your seat if you don't have a democracy? i mean, i just feel so strongly about this, and i think that it is a sad day in our country where this is happening and where we have so few republicans like liz cheney and adam kinzinger who have the courage to stand up and say, this is wrong. it is extremely dangerous. and i worry for our democracy. and i worry for the message that it sends to the rest of the world about democracy and whether it can work. >> congresswoman jayapal, thank you for your time. we always appreciate talking to you. >> thank you, alisyn. it's always great to be with you. mission complete. william shatner and his "new shepard" crew successfully reentered the earth's
atmosphere, landed in texas this morning. and the second civilian launch for jeff bezos' blue origin. here's the moment of takeoff. >> t-minus ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four -- command engine start. two, one. >> she has cleared the tower and is on her space with the second human space flight crew. >> at its peak, the blue origin space capsule traveled nearly 350,000 feet aboveground level, reaching speeds of upwards of 2,000 miles per hour. in total, the mission lasted a little more than ten minutes. the crew experienced about three minutes of weightlessness at the
top of the flight path before the capsule deployed parachutes to slow their descent. >> and once they touched down back on earth, william shatner was overcome with emotion. he recounted his experience to jeff bezos. >> it's so -- so much larger than me and life and it hasn't got anything to do with the little green planet, the blue orb, it has to do with the enormity and the quickness and the suddenness of life and death. >> and shooting through it so fast. >> and you're in blackness. >> you're in death. the moment -- >> this is life and that's death. and it's in an instant, you go, whoa, that's death! that's what i saw. >> that's amazing. >> okay, that's deep. >> yeah. >> for a short flight, he got a lot out of it. >> he had an existential
experience. and i guess so many people do. >> that's what we hear from these restaurants and some people are putting asterisks behind them because of how high they go, but once you see the earth, you see how fragile it really is, that it's life-changing. of course it is. >> and also, i had never heard it described the way that william shatner described it, which was blue, blue, blue, beautiful blue, and then you're in blackness. and he said, as you just heard, that was the difference between life and death. i had never heard it described that way. and he was also very candid about how anxiety producing it was. and you know, wondering if they were going to make it back okay. >> it was great to experience this through william shatner, because the way he phrased that experience -- and he's also funny. >> yes! and he's also 90! that man is 90 years old. so he's obviously done something right on earth. >> oldest person to get to that point. >> it only cost $28 million for that ride. >> sofa cushion cash. >> remember when the guy paid
$28 million and had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make it. >> is this a dental appointment? a graduation appointment you can't miss? $28 million. >> all right, moving on. after 18 long months of this covid pandemic, the u.s. will reopen its borders to fully vaccinated visitors from canada and mexico. >> and you've seen the images. these epic port congestion problems. a severe shortage of truck drivers, too. the president will talk about the global supply chain crisis and what this means for you, for your family. it's coming up in minutes. alberto and i don't fit into those other family plans. that's why we love visible. they do things differently. yeah, it's wireless with unlimited data and if you join a group it's as low as $25/mo. all powered by verizon. 5g included. woo! just get together and save! we look goooood! what's everyone's handle? visible. unlimited data, as low as $25/mo all-in. powered by verizon, 5g included.
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restrictions that have been in place for more than a year and a half will be relaxed. in the first phase, fully vaccinated visitors traveling for nonessential reasons will be able to cross u.s. land borders at canada and mexico. cnn's nick watt is in los angeles with more. >> reporter: after more than 18 months, the land borders with mexico and canada will reopen for nonessential travel early november, but just for the fully vaccinated. >> it's important news for our country, for our economy. we're talking about land ports of entry with two of our key trading partners. >> reporter: here in the u.s., five states have now fully vaccinated more than two-thirds of their populations. the thing is, they're all in new england. these 15 states are yet to even reach the halfway mark. in september alone, apparently about 49,000 deaths could have been prevented if more people had gotten vaccinated, says one
new study. boeing just issued a vaccine mandate for all u.s. employees. in boston, more than 800 city employees now on unpaid leave because they won't get the shots or take the tests. >> they may not want to do it, but they'll end up going ahead and complying, eventually. >> reporter: the governors of texas and florida both fighting the prevaili ing mandate's wind. congressman jim jordan grease, the white house does not. >> governor abbott's executive order banning mandates and i would also note an announcement by governor desantis essentially banning the implementation of mandates fit a familiar pattern that we've seen of putting politics ahead of public health. >> reporter: some big corporations say they'll ignore the governor of texas and still insist their staff get vaccinated. covid-19 is, was, and will always be contentious. a survey of over 300 scientists who have spoken publicly about it found 15% receive death
threats and 22% receive threats of physical or sexual violence. meantime, the big picture -- >> still, we are in some aspects in the pandemic phase of the outbreak. however, we are seeing now a decline in acceleration and a turn around of case. s. >> reporter: and the cdc predict hospitalizations and deaths will continue to fall over the coming mo month. but there are still more than 66 million eligible americans who haven't gotten their first shot yet. but pointing out that they might have made a bad decision, apparently, will not help, according to a new report out today. the authors say that you should give the hesitant a new piece of information, and say this, that maybe they would want to take this into account now, as any good decision maker lie you would. so, basically, they're saying, flatter these people and also allow them to change their minds
without, you know, really while they're still saving face. guys? >> criticizing people doesn't usually help win them over. >> good rule of thumb. >> thank you very much. okay, so supply chain issues are mounting ahead of the holiday season any minute now, president biden will roll out his plan to tackle this crisis and we will bring you that live. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him.
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okay. we are waiting for president biden to address the problems plaguing the global supply chain, meaning the problems we've all had in getting everyday goods. this is an issue that is growing more urgent with the holidays around the corner and some analysts warn that the worst is yet to come. >> dozens of full cargo ships are right now clogging the california coast because they can't be unloaded fast enough. and on land, there's a shortage of dock workers and truck drivers to get the goods to your stores where you shop. the president has been meeting with business and labor leaders to try to find some solutions. josh campbell is at the port of los angeles, but we'll start with matt egan. matt, how is the administration trying to deal with this? >> well, this supply situation -- this supply chain situation is a nightmare. and it really does impact all americans. because it means higher prices, fewer options, and longer
shipping times. right before the holiday shopping season. as far as what's causing this, there's a lot of factors. but first, there's this epic port congestion, shortage of truck drivers and trucks. and also, there's a short animal of raw materials and components. most notably, computer chips, which goes into everything from iphones and cars to pelotons. i want to go back to port congestion. that is a big one. we have this chart showing how the number of anchored ships at the ports of los angeles and long beach waiting to get off-loaded have skyrocketed from single digits last year to more than 70 last year. it's a traffic jam of container ships at sea. the white house has announced this 90-day sprint aimed at trying to alleviate some of these bottle necks. and they're going to try to move to 24/7 service at the port of los angeles, which is a very big deal. but the experts i'm talking to are saying, it might take some pressure off the system, it's not going to solve everything. at a meeting with the white house today, some business leaders were talking about the
need to potentially think about using the national guard in a targeted sense to try to alleviate some of these supply chain issues. >> perfect person to talk to about this is josh campbell who is at that port in los angeles. what are you seeing? how backed up is it? >> well, this is one of the key focal points of this will american shipping crisis. these two agenda ports behind me, the port of los angeles, the port of long beach. they handle 40% of incoming shipping to the united states. and as you were just mentioning, right now, there is a state of bottleneck. we see these ships that are out at anchor, waiting for these shipping containers behind me to be cleared, making space for them to move in. and the most important part to focus on is the consumer is the one that's mainly impacted. you're seeing these higher prices, goods take long to get to you. the causes that are responsible for what we're seeing behind us is mainly americans buying more goods. in the first quarter of this year, there was a 39% increase in the number of purchase
compared to this time last year. but also secondly, a lot of the factories in asia that supply so many of these goods are just now coming back online, after seeing their operations impacted by the global health crisis. now, our colleague, kyung lah spoke with the ceo of the port of long beach, who said that this is a crisis that's been long in the making and it's past time for officials to find a new business model to deal with the new era of global commerce. take a listen. >> i think what this is is a wake-up call for all of us in this industry to realize, we need, as i said back in 2018, before the crisis, we need to have an amazon state of mind in this industry. and by that i mean, amazon changed everything, 24/7, ecommerce. so this is a wake-up call for us to really change the mind-set of how we operate. with these kind of volumes, you can't operate with the model of yesterday. >> officials and workers are hoping that this new administration that the biden administration is announcing, moving this port of los angeles
into 24/7 operation will help alleviate some of the challenge s here and try to clear this backlog. it's important to note, another key order affect, this is not just a maritime shipping crisis or impacting workers here at the docks. america's truckers are also facing the brunt of this crisis. my dad was a krcrisis. he used to say, time is money. truckers get paid by the mile. they have to be in motion to get a living. and now so many of them are sitting in line here is waiting for their turn to get one of these containers placed on their truck so they can get those goods out to communities across the nation. >> yep, my father is a long haul trucker and so is one of my sisters. josh campbell, matt egan, thank you both. >> such important perspective. thank you. a record number of guns have been discovered at airport security checkpoints this year. cnn just asked the tsa chief what's driving this disturbing
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airport security guards are finding weapons, including firearms at an alarming pace. in fact, a new record has just been set. despite the fact that fewer people are traveling because of the pandemic. >> this is adding to air travel tensions, as the faa reports that unruly passenger incidents are rising again. so let's go to cnn's pete muntean. what does the tsa have to think about this? >> these are disturbing new numbers. cia administrator david and i just spoke exclusively about this, and he said, this is a huge problem, especially since we're just now setting a year-long record with still 11 weeks left in this year. the tsa has discovered 4650 firearms at airports across the country since january 1st. 3,900 of them have been loaded.
this exceeds the record set back in 2019. the tsa administrator says this is a really serious problem, and passengers need to take these rules more seriously, as well. it is a $10,000 fine for a first offense for somebody bringing a loaded gun into an airport. here's what he said. >> it's a huge problem. i mean, as a passenger, i don't want to have another passenger flying on a flight with me, with a gun if their possession. there are a number of things that we prohibit in the airport and onboard aircraft and guns is one of those things. >> why do you think the numbers are up? >> again, i think it does reflect society. i think more people are carrying weapons, just generally, across the country. and we see whatever is happening in the country, we see reflected in our checkpoint. >> reporter: me underscores this is happening as there are more unruly passenger incidents onboard planes, but shows that the systems works.
remember, there's a patchwork to have gun laws at states and local 'tis leading up to his airport checkpoints, and what's so interesting is that the u.s. attorney's office in the western district of pennsylvania is now asking local sheriffs to take away the conceal/carry permits of those who violate these rules. victor and alisyn? >> pete muntean for us there at reagan national. thank you. >> we have some breaking news now. the january 6th select committee is expected to issue another subpoena for another trump ally. this time, it's former doj official, jeffrey clarke. >> ryan nobles is joining us now with more. ryan, first, be sure to detail why jeffrey clark is so important to this investigation. >> yeah, well, there's no doubt about that, victor. jeff clark was a key trump loyal ally in the justice department in the days between the november election and then what happened on january 6th. and he is thought to have been one of the key vigilance of peddling the false narrative of possible voter fraud in some key
states across the country, and even was reaching out to state officials on behalf of the justice department and the trump administration, to convince them to look into what he claimed were election irregularities. now, we've known for quite some time that clark and his attorneys have been in conversation with the january 6th select committee, and the committee very interested in clark's role in spreading this misinformation in attempts to undermine the election results for some time, but they couldn't come to some sort of an agreement on cooperation. and that's why it seems pretty clear that as soon as today, the select committee is poised to subpoena jeffrey clark, to get him to comply with their desire to learn more information. so this is a significant development, and of course, it comes just a couple -- you know, just a day before that first round of in-person depositions with close, loyal, trump allies are scheduled to take place and we're not sure if they plan to comply. >> and we're also hearing that the committee met with the former acting attorney general,
jeffrey rosen today. what do we know about that? >> alisyn, this is pretty interesting, right? you have the dynamic here of clark and rosen. clark clearly not willing to cooperate with the january 6th select committee, and rosen actually sitting down for an interview. we are told by multiple sources that that took place today. rosen, of course, the acting attorney general at that time. it was clark who was part of an effort who was trying to convince rosen and others within the swjustice department to tryo use the tools of the election department to look into tools at the time. along with richard donohue, who is also one of the deputy acting attorney generals at that time, who also refused to take that step. donohue, too, has already spoken with the january 6th select committee. so you see some that were there during that time in the trump orbit willing to comply with the committee, and others not so willing, and that's why you see them taking the step of
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and abandoned in the wyoming wilderness for weeks. what we don't know is who killed her and exactly when. >> questions and suspicions continue to swirl around her fiance brian laundrie who has been missing for a month now. laundrie is not charged in petito's murder but is wanted for questioning. mark o'mara is a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. he defended george zimmerman thanks for being here. now that we know gabby was strangled by someone around the last time that she was seen with brian laundrie, how much harder does that make brian laundrie's lawyers job. >> much more difficult for this reason, not to sound graphic about the passing of gabby, but strangulation in and of itself takes time. and that time can lead to premeditation, which is, of course, first-degree murder under wyoming state law and could expose whoever did it, mr. laundrie potentially to a death penalty case, and that's very
very significant. there's still arguments, i suppose, that can be made that it was in the throes of a heat of passion to bring down that level of murder if he's charged with it, but that's the real concern about a advantagelation. we know that it was an intentional act over at least some period of time. >> when it comes to the science of a prosecution in a case like this, is the dna that was collected less valuable considering that they were in a romantic relationship and also that the reports of physical altercations before gabby petito was killed? >> generally speaking, victor, you're right. with an ongoing relationship there's going to be dna of the other on each other. but there are certain factors they're looking at, and i'll give you one easy example. dna under the finger nails would suggest an active fight, maybe struggling during that event
that led to her death. the dna could have evidence of the type of kill, even though you would exclude traditional touch dna between the two. >> i mean, isn't it just such a twisted truth that, you know, a defense attorney could say, well, you know, they did have that fight. that was on tape, and you know that they did fight and they were scratching each other, and maybe that's how the dna got under her finger nails. it's like because there was domestic violence in the past that could be used as an exoneration somehow. >> strangely, alisyn, you're right. they're going to be able to say, again, it happened before, so there's that heat of passion argument. it wasn't some premeditation. it was in the throes of yet another fight, yet another argument. even the fact that she had mentioned that she was the one to first strike at a previous domestic violence event. you can expect that to come up. the prosecutors are going to have that difficult time as they
always do and should to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. and whenever there's a violent relationship, that's going to be highlighted. >> would you have expected, mark, for brian laundrie to have been named a suspect by now? >> there's not a great benefit to that term of art, suspect person of interest. the thing is i doubt what they want to do is get them. they want to talk to them and find out what's going on. the initial warrant that's out there for the credit card use, that's enough for whoever finds him to bring him in. and there's no real reason if you think about him to charge him with anything other than right now because the prosecutors don't want that clock ticking on what we call speedy trial. if there's an indictment right now, and it's out there, there's an argument that he has to be tried in six months. why do that unless and until you actually have him under control. >> makes sense. mark o'mara, always good to see you, sir. thank you. >> thank you. just moments ago, the crew
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as president biden is addressing the global supply chain issues. >> supply chains and how hard it is to get a range of things from a toaster to sneakers to bicycles to bedroom furniture. and that's why back in february i signed a piece of legislation on supply chain, executive order on supply chains and we had to move on it. and with the holidays coming up, you might be wonder ing if gift you planned to buy will arrive on time. let me explain, supply chains essentially mean how we make things and how the material and parts get delivered to factory, a factory, so we can manufacture things and manufacture them here. how we move things, how a finished product moves from a factory to a store to your home.
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