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very good tuesday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. we are following a number of developments at this hour. first we begin in texas where governor greg abbott is reversing course, cracking down on vaccine mandates. on monday he issued an executive order which prohibits any entity from enforcing mandates including private bids, a departure from his stance which left decisions up to businesses. we're also monitoring some really stunning developments from the nfl raiders head coach jon gruden stepping down in the
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wake of an email scandal. "the new york times" reports he used homophobic, racist, and misogynistic language in emails working as an espn analyst over several years. g-20 leaders are convening today to discuss afghanistan, the security situation there following the taliban's rapid takeover. that's one of the national security challenges facing president biden. we'll speak with general stanley mcchrystal. he commanded all u.s. forces in afghanistan. he's retired now and has a new book. let's begin in texas with the new executive order prohibiting vaccine mandates. cnn's ed lavandera joining us from dallas. ed, you can reasonably have a little bit of whiplash here because the prior position of the governor was i'm not going to interfere with private businesses, let them make their own decision here. now he's saying even if you want to as a private business, and there are many big ones based in texas, you can't do this. >> reporter: right, jim. you can imagine how this is going over in some circles,
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republican circles who have on one side, you have extreme right wing of the republican party in texas who have been pushing governor greg abbott in this direction, but there are a lot of republicans here in texas who are not comfortable with the idea of government essentially telling businesses what they can and can't do. so all of this happening as governor greg abbott in texas is facing two primary challengers coming up next spring. so many people here in the state viewing what the governor is ordering through this prism of politics in his political future here in the state. over the last few days you've seen his opponents in the republican primary for texas governor have been saying there should not -- there should be a ban on vaccine mandates. and the question becomes now, jim and erica,000 are companies going to react? we've heard from the ceo of southwest airlines who have said
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they will continue complying with the federal vaccine mandate. american airlines has said the same thing. we are waiting to hear from a number of other large companies that are based here. we have at&t, tesla, which is moving its headquarters here to texas. but the governor in texas has been pushing vaccine bans for some time. the latest on private employers, also a ban of government vaccine mandates and vaccine passport requirements. if you remember, there's also been a ban on school districts requiring this as well. and the question becomes now what are companies going to do? are they even going to listen to this executive order or find a way around it? remember a few weeks ago the governor issued a ban on vaccine mandates in many school districts here in the state of texas, who ignored it and continued pushing vaccine mandate in schools. >> it will be interesting to watch the fallout. ed lavandera, thank you. let's bring in cnn legal
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analyst joey jackson to figure out the law. federal law trumps state laws. what happens? does the biden administration mandate supersede and over what period of time? >> yeah, good morning to you, jim. good morning to you, erica. listen, the reality here is exactly as you stated. we know we have a series of states in this country that are governed by governors and we have a state legislature. that being said, states generally can deal with and handle their own affairs. by way of example, you have states very strong with respect to gun control, states that have lax gun control laws, states related to death penalties put in effect and states that don't. my point is states can control their internal affairs unless as you said there is a federal mandate or some federal law that otherwise is in place. the doctrine called the supremacy clause, right. the supremacy clause means, not to get too legalese, but if the
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federal government says it, that's what we're doing, called the doctor of preempting. what the government does to protect citizens the state has to follow. you can't have a patched quilt with one state that has an airline and follows one rule and another state follows a different rule. the federal rule controls. that's what you'll see here moving forward. >> but moving forward, you know, laura jarrett, our colleague pointed out this has been challenged legally. what does that look like in court? >> yeah. i think what you do is there's a number of ways to challenge it. they're going to say, of course, texas, that we have a right to control our own affairs. we have our legislature. we do what we feel is appropriate. we do what we think the political climate of that jurisdiction provides for. and we think these mandates are oppressive and are something that we should not have to follow legally. on the other hand, the federal government says our main
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priority is to protect the citizens of this country. as a result of that, we're basing it on a science, not basing it on politics. we don't care if you're red or blue, democrat or republican, we care that we have a public health emergency and in that regard we believe will say the federal government that we have a right to impose mandates for businesses, jurisdictions, and we don't care that you're a separate, independent entity. we care about our citizens. >> the science shows it seems, the data shows that mandates have been working getting people vaccinated. the other issue of the politics have infused is the issue of mask mandates in schools in particular. an interesting development in wisconsin, because you have more than one parent suing their schools for not following cdc mask guidelines and the kids get sick. i want to play the comments of one parent and get your thoughts, joey. have a listen. >> i am just hoping that they will start masking and take some responsibility to keep our kids safe at school.
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on my school's website on all of their board, documentation, they say they want to provide a safe place to learn, and i think that to do that especially with the delta variant out there, they need to start masking kids. >> this is not just about one parent there, because there's a superpac that's raising money to sue every school board in the state that's not following cdc guidelines. where does that go? quite an interesting strategy. does that have legs? >> i think it does for the following reason -- when you look at the issue of liability of the schools you look at a few things, right? you look at one, duty. the school system has a duty and obligation to protect the children. how do you do that? you do that with respect to following guidance, with regard to making decisions that are going to keep parents' children safe. causation. as a result of your violation of
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that duty, not having proper protocols in place, does that cause a particular injury, that is, an illness or a sickness? then you get to was a person damaged as a result? so i think it has teeth. i think obligations of our school system are to protect our children. and to the extent you don't do that, you're going to make parents irate and they'll to things like sue. i think those lawsuits can be successful. >> the woman you heard from says the schools are running a daily superspreader event. would other school districts have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a child in fact did contract the virus at the school? how do you do that, right? if you're out and about in the community, how does that play in to the success of this suit? >> erica, excellent point. i think with respect to the prongs i mentioned, duty,
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causation, damages, if there's going to be a pushback with respect to how you defend that lawsuit, it will be what was the cause? did it happen in school? did it happen at some other activity, some other event? so you have to nail down the cause. that has been problematic. as to the standard, remember, it's not beyond a reasonable doubt because we're not dealing with a criminal case. when you talk about civil case, we're talking about a preponderance of the evidence standard which means in english did probably do it and is it probably because of that that you got it at the school. that will be the issue. >> joey jackson, great to have you on. >> nice to be here. thanks so much, jim and erica. i don't ever night, speaker nancy pelosi penned a letter to house members, perhaps a little impatiently, saying that in order to keep president biden's economic agenda afloat, quote, difficult decisions must be made very soon. >> cnn's chief congressional correspondent manu raju joining us from capitol hill with the latest. difficult decisions. obviously this is going to be
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about which programs can stay in this reconciliation bill, which can't. where do things stand this morning? >> yeah. in which members will agree to the ultimate price tag here, because ultimately, that's what this is going to come down to, what will be left on the cutting room floor, which programs will be part of this final deal, and can they keep that very fragile coalition to get it through the house, an advantage for democrats, who can't afford to lose more than three votes on the house side and on the senate side can't lose any votes in order to get this bill through. there are still significant differences even as the democratic leadership is trying to get this big bill, social safety net expansion, and that separate $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill that's passed the senate, get both through both chambers of congress by the end of this month. big question whether or not that can happen. part of the package, there are a number of major social program, increasing the child tax credit,
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dealing with universal pre-k, tuition-free community college and expansion of medicare to include dental, vision, paid family leave program. will they scrap any of those to meet what pelosi is calling for here? in the letter last night to her colleagues she made it clear they'll have to make difficult decisions to expand some of those programs and drop others. she says overwhelmingly the guidance i'm receiving from members is to do fewer things well so we can have a transformative impact on families in the workplace and responsibly address the climate crisis. a build back better agenda for drob e jobs and the planet for the children. at the same time, we must lift the debt ceiling and hope we can have a unanimous democratic vote and perhaps a bipartisan vote to do so. that last part referring to the fact that the house is coming back today after it had been scheduled to be out all this week in order to pass the bill approved by the senate last week to avoid a debt default by two months, extension up to essentially early december,
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increasing the national borrowing limit by $480 billion. there are big questions about whether they can avoid a default come the fall, a longer-term issue they'll have to deal with then. that could coincide with the bigger effort to get the rest of the democratic agenda through. so you're seeing a lot of big decisions leadership will have to make. can they get it all done? still major questions ahead. >> yeah. that's for sure. quite to to-do list. thank you. still to come, more disturbing emails from one of the nfl's highest paid coaches. today that coach, jon gruden, he's out of a job. the latest on his resignation amidreports about his remarks that went far beyond a racist leaning. and g-20 leaders are convening in a virtual summit. one of the top concerns is afghanistan. we'll speak with retired u.s. commander general stanley mcchrystal. he has a new book out about
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in a series of emails over a series of years. >> according to "the new york times," gruden's emails went beyond the previously reported racist language in one email that came out last week. he also over years denounced women becoming referees, the drafting of the gay player, also the challenge of protests during the national anthem, and it goes on. we're joined by the host of "the right time," a podcast on espn. good to have you with us. there's a lot of talk about the reaction to not only emails but his apology which i'm going to put in quotes, quite honestly. i think for a lot of people, too, though, is this pulling back the curtain on culture that is, you know, still very much at play today within the nfl? >> well, i mean, i think the latter is entirely possible, and i think that's the part that is most interesting is, look, there were 650,000 emails. is jon gruden the person who
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said the most racist thing in all those emails? that probably won't be the case. if it becomes public, that's interesting because you have reason to believe that the nfl knew these things about jon gruden. but talking about the culture of football, what is interesting is the level of comfort gruden had using those terms. he sent those to his buddy, who was a general manager for washington, and since he sends that, it gets caught into this dragnet. he's on this email with the ceo of a couple companies that are there and everything else. there is a remarkable level of comfort of all these people with this language and by the way also with sending images of topless cheerleaders, which is its own sort of problem. if we find out everything that is in this treasure trove of emails, it could be a reckoning for the nfl. it's a matter of how much we ultimately find out. >> part of the things gruden writes, the threat of his
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targets here. he talks about gays, about women, blacks, concussion protocols in the nfl, protesting during national anthems. i want to focus on the racist nature of his comments here because there's a dynamic. 70% of nfl players are black and here's a white coach, only three black coaches, by the way, and he's leading largely people of color. here's how former nfl and hall-of-fame wide receiver randy moss, what he had to say about gruden. >> talk about leadership, we give guys big contracts because they want to be able to lead 70 men, coaches, equipment staff, and managers, to the number-one goal, to win the championship and for us to be moving back, that's what hurts me. the clock is ticking, man. i'm sorry. >> homani, did he hit the nail on the head? >> i think he did, particularly
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for himself. i do not know randy personally, but you know when he was in high school he had a situation with a fight that took place in school. he went from being basically the biggest star in west virginia to being a pariah. i've imagined in that time he probably learned a lot of white people thought he was the bee's knees when he was catching the football and all of a sudden he wasn't going to the university of west virginia and not playing for high school, i imagine he heard a lot of things from a lot of people he thought was cool in the first place. that's happening for jon gruden. they did not think he was that guy and the particular pain that comes from a person in the position of a person oppressed in society, you thought a person might have been all right is actually all wrong. that's the kind of emotion that comes through. i imagine for a lot of people, tim brown and charles woodson, defending jon gruden, i imagine they did it because their. of him was so high to begin with. what do you think about the dude now that you see all of this? and when confronted with it,
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he's like, i'm going to quit my job, sorry, didn't mean to hurt anybody. what do you think about a guy like that now? >> this was happening while he still had a very public-facing role. and clearly knew not to say those things on an open mic, right? that's what it comes to. who is the real person here, right? and who is the person you're seeing? >> my colleague marcus spears made a very good point i had not thought about because eric reid, who played with colin kaepernick in san francisco and was with him in the protest over a lot of this, jon gruden was never supremely critical of him on the air while talking about these things. he never said what he said in the emails, which is that this guy should be fired. remember, the term in the nfl is waived, released, cut. he went to fired, which gives you a whole different connotation to what it was he was talking about and he didn't say those things on television, which is interesting to note. he knew this isn't the way you're supposed to get down. but when nobody was around, how he actually felt then came out.
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to go with what you said, about 70% of the players being black, one thing to talk about gruden, i would like to think white people would be similarly offended as you would expect straight people would be offended by how he talked about roger goodell and the slurs. but black players, football especially, where the idea is so much about the coaches not just being your coach but almost this borderline paternal figure that you don't just work for but you almost look up to, and then you find out he's talking about smith like that, it's reasonable to assume he'll talk about you like that if he gets mad at you, which means that's how he felt in the first place. that's got to be tough especially for the younger players who were not as cynical about race as people my age and older did. >> a great point. homani jones, thanks so much. >> thank you. still ahead, among the many challenges building up for the biden presidency right now, a
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humanitarian situation in afghanistan following the taliban's return to power. it comes as cnn reporting shows it is clear the taliban is returning to many of its old ways following the u.s.-led withdrawal. joining me now to discuss is someone who knows afghanistan very well. he commanded u.s. forces there and has dealt with risk around the world. general stanley mcchrystal, retired commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and author of a new book on risk, "risk m: a u user's guide." >> thanks for having me. >> you speak about how u.s. leaders making the decision to withdraw had to balance the risk of remaining with a force versus the risk of withdrawing versus specifically the risk of withdrawing quickly as the biden administration did. i wonder which part, if any, do you believe president biden got wrong? which part of the risk management there with afghanistan? >> yeah, one of the first things i'd remind people is you don't always judge the quality of a
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decision by the outcome because you can call exactly the right play in football and get unlucky and get a bad outcome and people say you're an idiot. you can do the same thing and get lucky. i ask people to first put a mature judgment on that. i think the hard part here was president trump's administration had signed the doha accord, so president biden was in a position of either abbrogating a signed agreement or living up to it. he actually lived up to it but just delayed it a bit. so the decision to pull out was made. i don't think they really revisited that seriously. there was different opinions and i probably would have recommended we leave some forces, but the bottom line is they didn't. coming out, however, if you string it out over a long period of time, theoretically increase your vulnerability, particularly as the size of the force gets small. so i think the concept was to try to do it quickly. i think they got surprised by how quickly the afghan government and military collapsed and that caught them
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flat-footed. but then i think they recovered pretty well in terms of being able to secure the airfield and pull out. it was messy. it was a painful period. but i think we ought to be a little bit mature in our criticism. >> you mention how the quick collapse of both the government but afghan security forces in particular caught the administration flat-footed. i wonder, do you believe that you and other commander who is served there failed to see that coming, failed to see that what we were attempting to create there and a force that could stand on its own, in fact, it couldn't stand on its own? >> yeah. i mean, i can only speak for my period. it was 11 years ago. i thought we could do it. i thought we could build a force, a police and security force, strong enough, matched by an acceptable enough government, legitimate enough with the afghan people, to protect their sovereignty. clearly over time it proved out that didn't happen, so from that standpoint, we could say i was
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wrong. i still think it was the right approach. i think if you were going to try to give afghanistan a chance you had to give them an opportunity to build a force. i think that over time afghans' confidence started to erode, pretty badly. it was eroding when i was there, but the reality was they were always looking to see if the united states was about to pull out. we sent a number of signals to them that we were. then with the doha accords, clearly where we set dates certain without involvement in the government of afghanistan, i think the people of afghanistan's confidence just fled. >> big picture, this is a book about risk and risk management. one point you make repeatedly is often times the greatest threat to a nation is the threat it poses to itself, right, in missing risk. you relate it to pearl harbor, the u.s. should have seen that attack coming. you relate it to the experience of a relative of yours who disappeared in hawaii before pearl harbor. i'm going to quote briefly here.
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"his nation ultimately posed the greatest threat to itself by failing to respond to a well-understood threat, but lattimore and american officials had at their disposal the dials to control their own response to risk. both failed to calibrate them." speaking to the challenges with our political system, do you see that same mistake playing out right now, not seeing the threat and not addressing it? >> i do. what i'd say is the greatest risk to us is us, and it's not really as much our failure to be able to predict threats, because we've always been lousy at that and probably always will be because there are so many way threats can arise. we can decrease our vulnerability to them, make ourselves stronger. if we look at covid-19, covid-19 was really not that big a threat. i mean, it was a known thing, yet we dropped the ball because internally the things we needed to do to be resilient we just didn't. >> another threat that we talked about is the threat from cyberattacks.
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we're seeing it every day practically from china and russia. again, you have an interesting point here discussing risk because you say the greater risk from cyberattacks is not so much if technological capabilities of a russia or china but our own weaknesses, how we would respond to them as a nation. i'll quote from you, you say, "if you turn off the electricity for 48 hours, we would see a tribal-like response of the kind we've only seen in zombie apocalypse mu vees." wow. i mean, that's remarkable to read. tell us why you believe it might play out that way if we were attacked in such a way? >> i think our vulnerability is extraordinary. we talk about flashing red lights, because everything's connected. recently i brought a new refrigerator and it's on wi-fi. i never send emails to my refrigerator so i don't know why it's on wi-fi. but the point is everything is connected and much of it is weak. the reality is because we had this connectedness we can't just guard our bank account because if our electricity goes off, our
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cell phone services goes off or power can't be delivered, society is going to seize up. we need to pressure test american society for this and we need to do it in a big way and need to do it soon. >> quickly, again, as i mentioned, a big message of your book about missing risk, was, again, pearl harbor, we should have seen to some degree that attack coming. do you see a similar dynamic today with the threat from china? typically a military threat from china, whether taiwan or against u.s. forces? >> yeah. i think we're unlikely to see a pearl harbor-type attack, but it's clear that china intends to have some kind of pressure over taiwan. they're already applying that pressure. so we thought to think right now what are we going to do to give ourselves the capability to deal with that? that means military and diplomatically and in terms of alliances. if we're not shoring that up right now, so focused on china as the threat as opposed to our capability, i think we'll find ourselves there. >> lessons from history and the
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this morning that pain you are likely feeling at the pump may feel like it's getting worse by the day. >> gas prices are up, they're now at seven-year highs. joining us is pete muntean live from a gas station in alexandria, virginia. tell us what's behind this right now. what's behind the supply crunch? >> reporter: well, jim, you know, this is really going to sting for a lot of folks who got used to low prices. gas was about $1.77 a gallon during the depths of the pandemic, $3.15 for a gallon of regular in virginia, which is actually lower than the national average now, which just hit $3.28 a gallon. up eight cents in the last week. and analysts say it's rally the price of crude that is driving this, which just hit $80 a barrel for the first time in seven years. analysts anticipate it will hit $85 or $90 a barrel by the end of this year.
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and aaa says we're really only starting to see the beginning of these prices spiking. >> what people should know is this is not a shortage. people think uh-oh, prices are going up, there must be a shortage. we have plenty of supply and there's plenty of oil. it's just that the price of that oil is going up. >> reporter: what's so interesting is this is typically the time of year when prices for gas are actually pretty low, between labor day and thanksgiving, when the demand for driving drops. it was $2.19 on average this time last year. maybe a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, but it underscores this is going to feel a lot worse for folks who got used to those low prices. jim and erica? >> no question. quite a difference in a short period of time. money pete muntean, thanks very. peggy green is a senior fellow at harvard's kennedy school. on gas prices, we just heard from aaa, it's not about
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shortage. this is that the price of crude oil is climbing, highest in seven years, will continue to go up. gas prices will be passed off to consumers for things we order, obviously. how much is that gas price impacting everything else that we're seeing in terms of, you know, supply chain issues? >> yeah, so, i mean, gas prices will continue to climb as demand surges as we go into a colder winter. it's partly supply and demand but partly supply chain issueses. we're seeing supply chain problems across the board from things going on in asia and the u.s., so both sides of the planet. it's partly because of factory shutdowns in china driven by emissions targets requiring factories to shut down. on the u.s. side, the issue is with labor, so a shortage of long shore workers and truckers to get stuff off shipping containers and into stores, onto
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shelves. so we're seeing as we reopen the economy and demand surged, firms haven't been able to keep up with production and also with shipping. so we're seeing these supply chain disruptions everywhere and they're driving prices higher. >> the big question for a lot of people is how long does this last? i mean, is there an end in sight? is there a solution beyond hiring more workers, which you have to find the people to fill those jobs? >> yeah. so i think this is going to take a while, unfortunately. don't forget china is hosting the olympics so they want blue skies so we'll continue to see factory closures there, which will continue to gum up supply chains. that's enough to gum up the entire supply chain no matter where you're ordering from in the world. i would expect this to last for another six months, certainly. could last beyond that. eventually, we should be able to iron out these supply chain disruptions and the upper pressure on prices should abate in the medium to long term. but it means not only higher prices but it will take you
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longer to get deliveries. so for those looking, you know, down the line towards christmas, i would say start your shopping now. >> i feel like we're hearing a lot of that. i wonder, too, with all of the, you know, helpful reminders that maybe you should start your holiday shopping early, is there concern that that could lead to further issues by everybody sort of going out and gobbling everything up right now? >> yeah, if people go out in hordes, certainly that would exacerbate the problems we're already seeing. and it does pull some of the demand forward that we would see in the next couple months. this is an issue that will play out over a couple months if not longer. if you want to make sure you have things in time, consider that order backlogs exist and delivery times are much longer now. >> we have to start planning better. so used to the immediacy of the last several years we got used to. a lot of blame has been placed on covid, but obviously what it also did was just expose some existing issues when it comes to
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these supply chains that we now as a planet rely on so heavily. do you think this will lead to any substantive change to avoid issues like this in the future? >> i think it absolutely will. we had all adopted a just-in-time manufacturing model, which meant firms had inventories. that will change. we need to hold inventors for these. things. one thing that didn't change as fast is the supply chain repatterning. xhimgists expected companies would repattern their supply chains so they would rely on countries near them so you wouldn't have global supply chains. we haven't really seen that happen that much. we're finding now we're still affected by things happening in china. so supply chains are still global and will continue to be because that's the cheapest, most efficient way for firms to operate. >> how efficient is it these days, right? megan greene, appreciate it. thank you.
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in an internal email to employee, an executive is defending dave chappelle's show. cnn hasn't independently verified the email obtained by "variety." >> during the special, chappelle made several jokes about trans people and criticized cancel culture, this around author jk rowling, who was called a terf for her comments which challenged gender fluidity. have a listen. >> i looked it up. terf is an acronym, stands for
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transexclusionary radical feminist. i agree. i agree, man. gender is a fact. >> cnn entertain reporter chloe molasses has been covering this. tell us what netflix has been saying. >> hey, there. listen, this is causing a lot of controversy with many people speaking out about this against dave chappelle's special. but in a leaked email from ceo ted sarandos of netflix, he says svrl of you have asked where we draw the line and we don't allow titles on netflix that incite violence. but many people, and glad, strongly disagreed with that. >> a lot of people strongly disagreeing with that. also reports of a trans-employee at netflix criticizing the special, that employee was s
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suspended. >> three employees who work for netflix have been suspended according to a source close to the situation who spoke to me yesterday. one of those individuals is a woman named terra field, and there were some tweets criticizing the special and saying, you know, look, i work at netflix and i do not support this. this is hate speech. and this goes against the trans community. netflix has released a statement saying these employees were not suspended for posting anything on social media. it didn't have to do with that. a source at netflix told me these employees supposedly, you know, crashed a high-level executive meeting, i'm assuming, to speak about this special that was virtual on monday. but, again, we don't know the details. what we do know is many people are not satisfied that netflix has not come out and released any sort of statement either way. this is a leaked email from ted sarandos, the ceo of netflix, but we don't have them taking
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that stance publicly. that has a lot of people really upset, like, look, if you're going to say that it doesn't incite hate or violence, then come out and say that publicly. netflix has remained mum on that. but saying that these employees were not terminated or suspended with anything to do with what they tweeted about the special. this is ongoing and a lot of people, you guys, are not happy with this or happy with dave chappelle right now either. >> chloe melas, than so much. thanks to all of you for joining us today. i'm jim sciutto. >> i noticed that tends to happen between 9:00 and 11:00 eastern. i'm erica hill. "at this hour" with kate bolduan starts after a quick break. see you tomorrow. ♪darling, i, i can't get enough of your love babe♪
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