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i'm pamela brown in washington. you're live in the cnn newsroom. great to have you with us on this sunday evening. new tonight, southwest airlines is apologizing to employees after a weekend of wide spread flight cancellations. some flight crews don't have hotel rooms and many passengers are stranded and frustrated, the airline cancelled more than 1,000 flights today alone and 800 yesterday. look at the lines. this is joidvideo from a passen waiting for hours in denver. southwest blames it on dis disr disruptive weather, air traffic control issues and limited
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staffing. air traffic control says they haven't had an issue since friday. pete joins me on the phone. so pete, what is going on here? you have southwest pointing the finger to air traffic control and the faa says not so fast. do we know what caused this? >> it's a huge ripple effect, pamela. southwest has this started on friday with air traffic control issues and weather. that was on friday. the faa as you point output out this statement saying there was really no other issues yesterday or today and in fact, the weather was good across most of the country. no big air traffic control caused delays. the real issue is southwest paired down the schedule because of the pandemic. it's flying few airplanes trying to pack as many people as people so the airline issued a statement saying it's making it harder to get the operation back to normal. 1100 flights cancelled today. 800 yesterday.
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the real question is when this will end we have seen in the massive meltdowns with airlines in the past it's not like flipping on a switch that it does take time for airlines to return to normal. so i just checked. i'm flight aware shows the number of the cancellations. no major cancellations yet for southwest airlines tomorrow but we will see if that changes overnight. things have been mostly good across the country today when it comes to air travel and yesterday with air travel but more southwest. this was a southwest specific issue, not an issue across all airlines. not a massive computer issue or air traffic control. this is specific to southwest. >> last hour i spoke with a southwest passenger whose flight was cancelled. listen to what she told me. >> and at 7:45 p.m. friday night, i was dealt a devastating blow that my flight was
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cancelled and they sent me a link to rebook at all on southwest or any other airline. that's when i began to cry. i was devastated to know that less than 12 hours from my flight, i was told i could not go and attend and join my family for such a sad time. they were very professional in their communication with me, so there is nothing that -- there was no other option. there were no other flights on any other airline, miami, west palm beach, nothing. >> so is there any indication, pete, of when southwest will get issues resolved and resume normal operation? >> we'll see.
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it will take a little bit. what airlines have to do is halt everything to try to get faults and planes and crews in their proper spot and there is issue like this when they get stuck out at different out stations rather than a main hub as the places are planes aren't supposed to be takes a little time for things to get back to normal and so sometimes the best thing in air all you can do is stop things all together. this is huge. we're talking tens of thousands if not more than 100,000 people impacted if you consider 100 or more people on each airplane and 1100 flights cancelled today this say huge chunk of southwest's schedule. more than a quarter of flights today. this is nothing to take a stick at. this is a huge operational meltdown for the airline and just trying to get it back to normal. it's also important to note, not only customers but also are the crews because they have been in some cases as we've seen from company memos that i've obtained
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from southwest, that flight crews were stuck without hotel rooms when they were -- when these issues happened. sometimes it's not just passengers but crews and one more important thing to note is sometimes -- at times an airline will default the trying to give you a credit, but typically in a situation like this and take note, all consumers out there if you're ever in this situation like the person you just heard from, you're entitled to a refund, not just a credit. it's something to push for if you find yourself in this situation. >> important advice pete. thank you. >> no problem. tonight, covid casecases, hospitalizations and deaths are dropping. that doesn't mean it's time to just throw caution or our masks to the wind no matter how much we want to. here is how dr. anthony fauci
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put it today. >> you want to look forward to the holiday season and spending time with families but don't throw your hands up and say it's over. if you look at the history of the surges and dcases over a period of time, they can bounce back. so we don't want to always, you know, be on our edge that it's going to happen because it won't if we do what we should be doing. >> dr. matthew is a primary care physician and public health specialist in atlanta. great to see you dr. matthew. look, a little more than half of americans are fully vaccinated. what are the risks of acting like the pandemic is over now? >> yeah, pamela, we've seen the playbook play out so many times so i tweeted earlier i'm frustrated. we should not be using the terminologies turning the corner and pulling back on restrictions and the reason for that is we're coming down from such a very high level. we're averaging 95,000 cases and
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still, about 1500 americans are dying every day. let's not forget we're going into the cold season and we know what happens, people take off their masks and especially in places that are really cold will be hanging around other family members also in tight spaces. so i think we should actually tighten up restrictions. we should talk about masking, mandating masking, definitely in different places where masks have not been mandated. i also think, pamela, we should mandate vaccines for travel. so instead of pulling back, i think we should tighten up restrictions and be careful going into the winter season. >> that's good advice. i was going to ask you about allen west. he's a candidate for governor in texas and being treated for covid-19 and he had to be hospitalized as a result. he let loose with a string of tweets, perhaps from a hospital bed saying that he is even more dedicated to fighting against vaccine mandates.
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again, we should note he was unvaccinated and in one of the tweets, the tweet said that he was being given a steady protocol of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. what is your reaction to this? >> you know, mr. west really should be using his personal experience of having covid to actually push vaccines. just recently i read an article, pamela, where over 250,000 kids have been orphaned during covid and guess what? more than half of those kids have been in latino populations and african american populations. he received the monoclonal antibody infusion. in some places it's difficult to get the monoclonal antibody influ infusion. that's pharma. the only flu vaccine is pfizer. it's not experimental treatments you get when you go into the hospital. we're talking about a vaccine
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that can prevent you from getting covid. mon m monoclonal antibodies is used to treat it. i hope they will stay out of the lane of scientists. >> i got to ask you about kids, halloween coming up and parents wondering without vaccines, is it safe for kids to trick-or-treat this halloween? >> i think if most of the activities are outdoors, pamela, it is going with a lot more adults vaccinated and adults and kids 11 to 12 have been vaccinated or had the opportunity to get vaccinated. if you're outdoors, go and have fun but make wise decisions and avoid indoor activities and you should be fine. >> there is a cbs news poll looking ahead to the holidays and 25% of the people say they plan to be around only vaccinated people. 23% say they'll mix it up and
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31% say they don't know and won't even ansk. do you think we'll see another hike in covid during the winter? how much does this concern you? >> people should say i want to make sure i'm around people that are vaccinated, especially the elderly. many have not seen their grandkids because the grandkids aren't vaccinated. really, when we make travel panels plans or plans for the holidays should be on the top of the list. that worries me. a lot of people have gotten covid so there is some natural immunity and a good number of people are getting vaccinated. i don't think there will be a huge winter surge all over the u.s. but there can be surges and clusters where vaccination rates are low. >> i want to ask you about the booster shot. you got your booster shot this week.
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what do you think of the fact the rate of booster shots is higher than the rate of first shots? >> i'm not surprised at all. the same people scared right out of the gate before the vaccine rollout began are the same people that are going to be squared about whether they should get booster shots. i still think that we need to get that first shot in the arms of 80 or 70 to 80 million americans that have not been vaccinated. remember, yes, boosting keeps people protected but you are unprodetected if you're not vaccinated. that should be the push. >> all right. do you ever feel like you sound like a broken record talking about how important it is to get vaccinated? because we talk about it all the time and yet, so many millions of americans eligible to get vaccinated still haven't. dr. matthew, thank you. great to see you. >> thanks, pamela. one dead, 14 hurt. a stunning toll after a shooting in one of st. paul, minnesota's most popular areas.
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governor last year. she claims he is running oklahoma into the ground. here is part of her first campaign ad. >> i've faced down extremism, partisanship and effective leadership and governor stit. when it came to keeping our children safe. i took on that fight. when it came to supporting teachers, i led the way. when it came to fighting for public schools, especially the rule schools rural schools, i was there. >> you say your decision to switch parties came with quote, a lot of personal reflection. why did you decide to do it? >> well, thank you first of all for having me and right now my thoughts are on a lot of oklahoma people encountering severe weather. like a lot of oklahoma people, many feel unrepresented by kevin stit and he is hijacking the
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republican party and not representing everyday oklahomaens. >> so i want to understand a little better why you switched parties. i understand a reign against governor stit but why did you switch from republican to democrat? >> i'm running as a democrat for governor because i value public education and our rule health care system and that access to affordable and high quality health care as well as rural infrastructure and that in our suburban and urban settings, as well. everyone needs new leadership and that's not kevin stit. >> so you just said you're running for governor as a democrat but do you consider yourself a democrat now or do you still consider yourself a republican with certain policy issues? just trying to get a better understanding. >> this decision really tran
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sends party affiliation. oklahomaens are independent thinkers and they are not limited to letters behind a name. individuals do not fit into tidety categories. instead, oklahomaens vote for the person. i haven't changed. i have the same values that i've had before but those values align with regular everyday oklahomaens, republicans, independents and democrats who value working together, common sense solutions and respecting one another. >> so if you were to win as the democratic governor, would you support president biden and his agenda? >> you know, as state superintendent, i have worked with three different administrations in the white house and i'll represent oklahomaens regardless who is in the white house and regardless which party. there will be times where we
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will agree and others will disagree at other times but my focus will be on advocating for the needs of all oklahomaens. >> but i guess, you know, you're switching now to run as a democratic governor. we are so many months into this pandemic. why now? >> well, this has come at the result of seeing a pattern by kevin stit where there is a disregard for experts that have public health, wisdom and those experts even in close rooms, those in locally elected positions. owl all of us should have been working together and instead, governor stit has divided communities to the point of neighbor against neighbor and family against family and oklahomaens had enough of that. >> joy, thank you. >> thank you. thanks for having me. a hellish situation after
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deadly gunfire broke out in a busy restaurant and bar district in minnesota. one is dead, 14 wounded and three suspects under arrest. earlier tonight i talked with the mayor of st. paul how his city is reacting to the latest mass shooting. >> our community is devastated. our community is reeling from this. obviously, it's more than just 15 families. those families of the 15 victims, it's our entire community. it's the businesses, restaurants, bars, those folks who come in and out of town to enjoy the community. one of the reasons we're reeling is because we're not used to things like this. it's so rare and so different than what we're used to. our goal is to partner with all of those individuals. our goal is to partner of course with our police department. our goal is to partner with the community elders that can intervene with young people thinking about picking up a gun or thinking about what route they want to take in their life
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and hopefully, our goal is to finally be able to work with our legislature to pass the type of sensible gun control reforms that most minnesotans know that we need. >> and cnn's adrian is following this for us. adrian? >> pamela, at least three people are in custody in the hospital receiving treatment for their injuries. once they're discharged from the hospital, st. paul police say they will be booked in the ramsey county jail. this after 15 people were shot in st. paul sunday morning. one person a woman in her 20s did not survive. i spoke with mr. peter parker, that's his stage name, he's the d.j. who is at that venue every saturday. he described the scene like this. >> i'm kind of spinning on the stage having fun and my moment and i hear pop, pop, pop, pop. everybody goes down.
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i'm like okay. they're still shooting. but the music is playing. i reached up and urn turned the music off. i'm like let me peep the scene. people were frantic and wanted out fast. >> meanwhile, investigators are trying tomotive in the downtown of st. paul a short block away from the xcel energy center home to the minnesota wild. that's the state's hockey team as well as other concerts. it's right in the heart of downtown st. paul and parker says this was a fun atmosphere and normally, he can tell when the mood is about to shift, but that did not happen sunday morning. he said they were all surprised and the shooting happened abruptly. parker said he will not be able to return to that venue to d.j. ever again because of what he saw. pamela? >> yeah, understandable. adrian, thank you. in georgia a swat team is
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arrested for killing a police officer down while working the first shift. suspect damion ferguson was captured without incident less than a mile from where the officer was shot. he's accused of shooting 26-year-old officer dillon harrison early saturday morning just outside the alamo georgia police department. harrison leaves behind his widow and their 6 month old child. that is just awful. in california, a man is dead after police in los angeles county say he drove his truck on to a sidewalk nearly hit several pedestrians. he then struck a tree and crashed into a building and that is when police say bystanders pulled him from his vehicle. when officers got to the scene, they found him dead. they said it all unfolded after the man got into a verbal altercation inside a business around midnight saturday and was asked to leave. his identity has not been released. the coroner is working to determine the exact cause of death.
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well, give the people what they want. according to the former president trump, gop voters want more lies about the election and republican leaders who know better are going along with it. i'm setting the record straight. up next.
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if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. that might have been a gentle warning from a parent or teacher. for donald trump and an increasing number of prominent republicans, it's their political playbook and this
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weekend, the big lie got repeated plenty. >> it's the single biggest issue, the issue that gets the most plural, the most respect, the biggest cheers just talking about the election fraud of 2020 presidential election. nobody has ever seen anything like it. >> for the record, he's right. this nation has never seen anything like the big lie. certainly not by a once sitting president who refuses to admit he is the former president. >> hillary conceded. when you hear the numbers, they should have conceded. no presidential candidate should have lost an election while winning florida, ohio and a place called iowa. >> for the record, that's not true. richard nixon won the states but
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lost the 1960 election. maybe that's a little lie but the big lie is now deeply rooted in the republican party. kerry lake a republican running against a republican to become the next governor of arizona is well and on the trump train. she sent this delusional tweet to arizona secretary of state katie hobbs after she said it was time to move on and focus on real issues, she said yo, katy, we're not getting over it. we're going to desertfy, reform elections and lock up the criminals who defrauded the voters of arizona and that's going to be the fun part. by the way, this tweet was sent after the fake arizona audit confirmed what we knew that biden won arizona and then here is the second most powerful republican in the house just this morning. >> specifically making this charge that the election was stolen, do you think that that
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hurts undermines american democracy? >> chris, i've been very clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow -- >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. that's what the united states constitution says. >> for the record, found those cases weren't without merit. truth matters who so wait for the attack on the capitol and a top advisor on issue. she understands democracy. she says the big lie is a poison made all the more dangerous if donald trump really does run in 2024. >> if he does win on the back of the lies, these lies that he's
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repeated over and over again, the big lie that he had the election stolen away from him in 2020 that means the whole premise of his presidency will be based on a lie. that's when democracy will be done. >> we keep hearing again and again from experts that people don't think it will happen in the united states but it could. it's possible. up next, the impact of an ab apologiy more than a century ovr due as a reckoning with the racist past. >> this is a record of the city's role in promoting a real climate of hate around, against the chinese immigrants. >> and also, a record of resistance.
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well, it has taken more than 130 years and san jose is apologizing for decades of discrimination and violence against chinese immigrants. the city passed a resolution acknowledging xenophobia was behind an arson fire that destroy the china town. cnn's natasha chen has more on the path to making amends. >> reporter: this ceremony marked a moment more than 130 years in the making. >> the city of san jose
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apologizes to all chinese immigrants and their descendants who came to san jose and victims of system mic and institution racism. >> this formal apology acknowledges san jose's role in passing anti chinese policy in the late 1800s. including a decoloration, leading to an arson that destroyed the thriving community. >> we are walking on the site of market street china town. >> connie young's grandfather was a teenager immigrated from china to san jose. >> i don't think they expected a fire. >> the san francisco "daily exa examiner" called the fire san j
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jose's joy. her grandfather was wokkrking i the fields that day. >> he was working in the smoke. it was a sense of doom. after the fire then what? will they come after the individuals? >> she described how her grandfather used to be chased and had rocks thrown echoing anti asian attacks seen during the pandemic. >> we were hearing rhetoric coming down from our federal government as we know our past president that was really i think encouraging. a lot of this hate and these hate crimes were occurring. >> the council member says similarly city leadership in the 1880s set the tone for anti chinese attacks then. all with a backdrop of the u.s. chinese exclusion act passed to prevent chinese immigrants from becoming citizens. >> i was not aware of really how bad it got and through this process we have been able to expose that. >> the city even denied permits for rebuilding after the fire. those subsequent china towns eventually emerged. about 100 years later during the construction of this hotel, the
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fairmont, people discovered artifacts that had survived the fire. a painful reminder of the city's past. >> they found what life was like. they obviously had toothbrushes. they had kitchen utensils. they even had whisky bottles. >> reporter: when these pieces were found, the project formed with jerry wong at the helm. >> finding pieces like this, it was just like opening a horizon of what was life like for those people? >> reporter: the museum shows a timeline of the five china towns after the arson, the chinese rebounded into a new community. this museum yum bbuilding is a replica of the structure. only this alter is original. it's full of construction cranes and the development will include a park named after it. at a time when anti asian hate
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surfaced again, that gesture with the resolution and apology mean more to the commonty than a pi paper. this is a record of the city's role in promoting a real climate of hate around -- against the chinese immigrants. >> also, a record of resistance. >> reporter: a story of rebuilding and repairing. >> it's a sense of overcoming. >> reporter: natasha chen, cnn, san jose, california. >> what a story. now to the rescue in texas that's being hailed as a miracle. a 3-year-old little boy is back with his family tonight after being lost in the woods for four days. christopher ramirez wondered away from his home while playing with a kneighbor's dog wednesda afternoon. they launched a search with a good samaritan finding the boy saturday morning. the local constable described
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the rescue. >> it was almost a miracle how he was found. it was a organized investigation that led to his recovery. a good samaritan went and searched the back of this property and low and behold, located christopher. almost five miles away from his home where he went missing, the property he was found on was very dense, very wooded, it's very rough terrain to go through. >> he must have been so squcare. for his condition, he was tired and dehydrated but otherwise fine. glad that had a happy ending. up next, looks like space is the place to be these days. william shatner is prepping for a trip there this week. a russian film crew beat tom cruise there and you can head there in a balloon for 50 grand. the race for space up next.
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t minus three days until the original captain kirk goes to space. on wednesday "star trek" legend will blast off from texas aboard the blue orgaigin rocket. sh shatner is set to become the oldest person to fly into space at 90 years old and admitted to anderson cooper, he's a bit nervous. >> my fear is as you go up that you can't draw a breath. that apparently is not going to happen but that's what they
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said. [ laughter ] >> i'm really quite apprehensive as you might have guessed. i'm going to experience the knowledge of space. i'll come back and tell you what it's like. [ laughter ] >> i love anderson's laugh. joining me now is cnn aviation correspondent miles o'bryan. [ laughter ] >> it's just so great. and he said -- >> that's quality television, pam. >> quality television. i love when he told anderson that he was going to look out the window, he just hoped nobody else was looking back at him. we're all going to be watching this, right? the launch less than three months -- >> he was in the twilight zone. he was in the famous twilight zone where he looked on the wing and there was a gremlin. that's i think what he was referring to. i believe so. >> got ya. i swear i knew that. uh-uh. okay. so let's talk about this. because i know there are a lot of star trek fans out there and you don't want to get anything wrong on that, right?
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do you make of how routine these trips are coming to space? it seems like every week or every other week there is a trip to space with someone high profile. >> yeah, it's like the flood gates have happened, pam. it's been about 20 years since the x prize, i'm sorry, that award several million dollar award to fly a civilian craft to space twice in ten days or less. twice in two weeks or less and of plane became virgin galactic and 20 years later, you see the flight. this has taken time with nasa ending the monopoly and allowing spacex to fly people and cargo to the international space station on a private type of
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contraption and it's exciting to see. some people look and say gosh, it's a bunch of gold plated bungee jumps by rich people. i see what happens next. >> that is the criticism. why do i care about a foamous actor going to space? he will not be the first actor to reach. that title was claimed this week by a crew of russians that traveled to the international space station where they are filming the first feature film ever shot in space. is this another sign to you how seriously the russians are taking the future of space travel? >> it's a different space race, isn't it? it's fun. my money is the fact the tom cruise movie won't be better. you never know. maebl maybe the russians will come through with a sleeper hit. what this does is popularizes the face in a way that hasn't
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been. it seems kind of frivolous but these investments and money and attention is what leads us to better communication, gps, google, maps, better forecast and maybe one day a better way to stop an astroid from hitting the planet and causing a mass extinction event. there is a lot of reasons to be in space and affordably and this is one step along the way. >> stopping the astroids seems important. so let's -- to put it lightly. let go to other space news. space tourism company world view plans to sit sending passengers to the edge of space in what appears to be a high tech hot air ballballoon. the trip will last six to eight hours and reach 100,000 feet. a ticket costs around $50,000 a seat, which compared to other passenger trips we've been seeing is actually fairly inexpensive again in comparison. miles, would you go for a ride in one of these? >> absolutely. i would. that's -- i can't even afford that one but this is getting
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down closer into my price range. you know, if spacex is the flat bed first class seat and, you know, bezos with business class, this is like spirit airlines. hey, i'll take it. it gives you a taste of space. you see the curve of the earth and the blackness of space itself and probably spend a little more time up there than you do for five minute jumps to zero gravity. >> save up your mine. the late princess diana, the premiere in just minutes on cnn. s never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no.' everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to... and...when he wants to. so ray...can be ray.
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the new cnn series "diana" begins in a few minutes. >> when diana arrived in 1981 to marry prince charles, it was one of the most watched tv events in history. she immediately became a global icon with a fairly tale wasn't until a few days later on hone honeymoon, diana said they they had an argument about cuff l lks gave charles. charles would eventually divorce
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