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tonight three people now arrested after a mass shooting in minnesota that left one person dead and 14 injured. also ahead, new details on an incredible fbi sting operation. how a couple allegedly hid nuclear sub secrets in a peanut butter sandwich. and a driver is dead in california after he nearly hit pedestrians on a sidewalk and was then attacked by bystanders.
you're in the cnn newsroom. hi, i'm pamela brown in washington. thanks for being here with us on this sunday. we want to begin tonight in st. paul, minnesota. tonight the community is struggling to understand why deadly gunfire rang out in a popular restaurant and bar district. just after midnight, a barrage of bullets hit 15 people, turning a night on the town into complete chaos. st. paul police describe the crime scene as a, quote, hellish situation. one woman in her 20s is dead, 14 people are wounded. police have arrested several suspects but are still looking for others tonight. cnn's adrienne broaddus is with us tonight. adrienne, do police know is
behind this? >> reporter: the motive remains unclear. three men are in custody, ranging from age 22 to 33. this after you mentioned 15 people were shot, including one woman in her 20s who didn't survive. she died at the scene. 14 others injured, and i spoke just moments ago with the deejay who was enjoying a night of fun with everyone inside of that venue. he describes what he saw. listen in. >> i'm kind of spinning on the stage having fun in my moment, and i hear it. pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. they're still shooting, but the music is playing. i turn the music off and i'm like, okay, let's look at the scene. i look up and i see people are really frantic and they want to get out of there fast. >> that was mr. peter parker. he said it happened abruptly. he said he can't emphasize
enough how much fun everyone was having be having. before those shots were fired, he said there was no arguing, there was nothing that escalated to a shootout and police are still trying to piece together what happened. as you can imagine, the scene is complex. there were victims inside and outside. meanwhile, peter parker told me he can't step back inside to deejay. he said he'll never play another record there again because what started as a night of fun ended so differently, and forever he's reminded of the horror that he saw unfold. pamela? >> understandably traumatizing for him and others there. adrienne broaddus, thank you. i want to talk to one mayor of what he calls an episode of gunfire in the twin cities.
a man drove his truck up onto a sidewalk and nearly hit several pedestrians. bystanders then pulled him from his vehicle, and when officers got to the scene, they found him dead. cnn's natasha chen is in los angeles. what a story here, natasha. what more do we know? >> reporter: pamela, like you were mentioning, he had driven up onto a sidewalk so potentially could have harmed a lot of people here. luckily the bystand eers were n injured. this happened late friday night into the early morning hours of saturday, and just after midnight are when hawthorne police were called to the scene. they said they went to an area outside the business. this was rocket sports lounge in hawthorne where the driver had actually been in an altercation and been asked to leave that establishment. police say he did but came back in his truck and drove up onto the sidewalk, nearly hitting several patrons who were
standing outside there. at that point he lost control of the truck and drove into a tree. the l.a. county sheriff's department is assisting in this case, and they say that people tried to pull him out of the vehicle at that point. but instead he was able to accelerate. eventually actually ran the truck into a nearby building. and that's when people were actually able to pull him out of the vehicle, a physical fight ensued and apparently he was beaten. when police arrived at that point, they saw that he had blunt force trauma. paramedics tried to help him but he was pronounced dead at the scene. so right now the coroner's office is still working on a cause of death, because that blunt force trauma could be from the people attacking him, it could be from him running his truck into a building, it could be a combination of those things. but again, right now what we know is that this person is dead, this driver is dead, and that when he drove up onto the sidewalk, that was very serious and could have injured a lot more people on a friday night
outside of that lounge, pamela. >> natasha chen, thank you so much. as covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths decline, it's tempting to think the worst of the delta variant is behind us. dr. anthony fauci says it still pays to be cautious. >> we have to just be careful that we don't prematurely declare victory. in many respects, we still have around 68 million people who are eligible to be vaccinated that have not yet gotten vaccinated. and even those who have been vx natured, you want to look forward to holiday seasons and spending time with your family and doing those sorts of things, but don't just throw your hands up and say it's all over. >> we have associate dean of public health at brown university. dr. ranney, you're also seeing what's going on in the emergency room firsthand and covid patients still coming in.
that's what i want to start off this conversation with, where are we in this fight? haven't we seen this movie before, that we thought we had turned the corner on the pandemic. what is your sense now? >> how many times have we said the worst is oefrks the surnl is dunl. it is through in many cases, the surge is over. we're seeing cases with hospitalizations and even deaths in those states that were so affected over the summer. but there are some cases that are increasing dramatically. as we move to cold weather, as our kids are fwook sc-- back to school. as dr. fauci mentioned, there are many of us who have not
finished our first set of vaccines. go out and get your vaccines if you haven't yet. do what you can to make shurm, have rapid tests narnd case. even today, make sure um -- there are still millions of people that could be vaccinated that are still not vaccinated. if the numbers stay where they are only. >> as people get infected, if they survive, they do develop some natural a mimmunity. but it doesn't seem that natural
immunity fights the variants. >> of course of course, that includes most of our kids. that includes 9 and younger because they haven't seen them spread to the elder fabl,ly we're seeing those wehere there is a vaccine they can get. >> it may be children ages 5 through 11 can be approved for the shot. what should we do for halloween? is it safe to take your kids trick-or-treating if they're unvaccinated?
>> trick or treating is one of the safer activities we can engage in. it's outdoors, it is well ventilated, but my kids sure love wearing those machx when they're in the streets or coast of people. otherwise, again, those outdoor activities are safe. support you're not going to see an -- many in masks. >> thank you for coming on with your perspective for this. coming up on the show, what a covid vaccine rollout for kids might look like. then brian stalter is here for a
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tonight signs that the house investigation into the january 6 attack on the capitol is picking up speed. select committee member adam schiff says he doesn't perceive delays in getting records from the trump white house. the path seemed to be clear friday when president biden denied donald trump's request to withhold the documents. >> we should, i think, get those documents soon because the sitting president has the primary say in executive privilege, but we also want to make sure that these witnesses come in and testify and we are prepared to go forward and urge the justice department to criminally prosecute anyone who
does not do their lawful duty. >> a key player from president trump's first impeachment trial is speaking out about her time as a top russia advisor in the administration and about the larger threats she sees to american democracy. fiona hill lays it out in her new book, there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century and she joins me now live. hi, fiona, good to see you. >> hi, pamela, nice to be here. thanks. >> how important is it in your view that president biden declined to assert executive privilege over the trump white house documents? having worked in the white house, what do you expect the documents would reveal? >> well, i mean, to be honest, i'm not entirely sure what they will reveal, but hopefully they'll be helpful in trying to ascertain what was going on in this swell of events around january 6. the most important thing here is to really get a grasp on what happened in the lead-up to
january 6, and what was the state of mind of everybody in and around the white house when things were unfolding. we have a lot of pieces of information, but clearly we need much more to be able to get our hands around this. having a credible concluding analysis and a report on this event is extraordinarily important for the next round of elections, because we know already that those elections are being contested. the midterms coming up in 2022 and then the prospects for the presidential election in 2024. president trump is maybe taking another run at the presidency, and based on the lie that he won and joe biden did not win, that was what led up to january 6.
he wanted everyone to think the election had been stolen and wanted people to stop the handover power in the building. >> last night in iowa he talked about how much attention he's getting from his followers. let's listen to that. >> it's the single biggest issue, the issue that gets the most pull, the most respect, the biggest cheers is talking about the election fraud of 2020 presidential election. nobody has ever seen anything like it. >> is trump doing exactly what russia has been doing in the u.s., spreading this kind of dangerous misinformation and sowing distrust? >> well, what russia has been doing for quite some time, and especially since its intervention in the 2016 elections is actually using material and those kind of statements to exploit them and to basically come to some sort of division.
i think the most disturbing thing for anybody watching american politics for the last several years has been the fact that it's our own president, our own former president, donald trump, who has been talking down u.s. democracy. in many respects the russians don't have to do very much but sit back and watch as he does this. it was president trump who told everybody the election would be stolen. before when it happened in 2020, it was president trump who told people not to rely on the postal service. president trump has been accusing other americans, including members of his own party who have been the electoral officials in many of the states for somehow stealing the election. this is really happening from a foreign adversary. it's frustrating this is disinformation, especially when it's coming from the top.
>> the russians who wanted to sow distrust and weaken democracy, he's the one doing it from the top up. >> the most fundamental basis of our democracy is rooted around trust in the election process, also the willingness of the out going president to hand over to the illicit successor. there was no sign that he was willing to do that before the election, and since the election, he's still claiming distrust. >> so on that note, how dangerous will another run be for hthe future of democracy? even if he doesn't run, he will still claim the election was stolen, right?
>> you're right. >> and if he does win on the back of these lies that are repeated over and goerch, and, that means the whole premise of his presidency is based on a flachsd. >> here in the united states, for decades, for centuries, the united states has stood for the truth. trusting our election system has been part and parcel of the fabric of the united states. we're throwing this all away. >> we're throwing this all away which is terrifying, and to put a final finer point on that, if he were to physical. physical he does run again, democracy will be done, as you
sail do you see this country to potentially being labeled a auto kraes in the future? what does that look like? >> it's when sploem and russia, all of the political people are put in jail. president putin has just survived an assassination attempt where they put an agent in his own plate, of all things. if mr. trump is voted on from the basis of a lie, all the figures in jail where there has been assassination attempts.
we were already in widespread violence, and i just would like people to realize that this is the kind of thing that lies ahead of here in the united states. people will say, oh, this person is exaggerating. it couldn't possibly happen here. yes, it could possibly happen here. >> do you think americans are naive to the threat of dem democracy. this country really hasn't tested in places like other countries have. >> i think about europe. they didn't really get their independence, too. it was the same time the united states was having its war of the many. so in some respects, we're quite old. we've been basically working in our dmok raeg.
we've had the civil problems, but i think this is the first time in our memory that our democracy has been so stress tested. this is something we'll have to grapple with. >> what is your message, then, to republicans who support this kind of behavior, support these lies and enable them, essentially? what do you say to them? >> do they want to stay in power at the expense of throwing away a democracy that's been built over the last several hundred years. the united states is something unique and something exceptional. if they don't take a hard look at themselves, we'll go down another path that many other countries around the world, that many americans, immigrants who
fled from those countries have tried to turn their back on. there is so many people invested in the future ff, and it's really now resting on what people who were on capitol hill. >> it's interesting that you noticed that immigrants who fled those countries, they dame here, and that's why there is more of an awareness, potentially, because they've seen it happen in their country and they know what is possible. fiona hill, a really eye-opening conversation. i look forward to reading more of your book. thank you so much. >> thank you so much, pamela. we're following new developments in a deadly shooting in minnesota. police are now making arrests, and when we come back, i'll get the latest frltom the mayor of . paul. melvin carter, you're in the
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well, there have been arrests in st. paul, minnesota after a night on the town turned deadly. gunfire erupted just after midnight in one of the city's most popular restaurants and bar districts. a barrage of bullets hit 15 people, killing a woman in her 20s. i want to discuss this latest episode of gun violence with the mayor of st. paul, melvin carter. he joins me now. thank you so much for spending some time with us tonight. if you want to just bring us up to date on the latest of the shooting and the investigation. >> pamela, thank you for having me on. you know, this is, of course, one of the hardest nightmares that a community can endure.
for our community to wake up this morning and hear that 15 individuals in one setting and one moment were shot, that one young woman lost her life, it's just heartbreaking and unacceptable. we've seen these instances of mass shootings happen across the country, but obviously this sits super close to home for us. our police department has been, of course, on the scene since the first moment investigating, helping folks, triaging the scene. they were able to get three individuals into custody today, but of course our community is going to be listening closely because we need a whole lot more answers as to why something like this could happen to us. >> like what sparked this, right? in a series of tweets following the shooting, congresswoman betty mccollum called an epidemic of gun violence plaguing our twin cities has hit us in st. paul with a mass
shooting event. what would make her call it an epidemic of gun violence? >> we've seen gun violence over the last year. it's some reflection of more people out of work, more people in their homes, more people with health concerns than ever before in our life, and levels of support that they need from community members. that level of desperation, like i said, the issues of poverty, the issues of unemployment, all those types of things always end up being the generators of community kind of crime issues. our goal here in st. paul is to build what we think of as our comprehensive and coordinated insurance lining this, including officers working alongside community shown up on the scene the next day.
we >> it was a crowded scene at that restaurant and bar district. a lot of people out, enjoying themselves, spending money, boosting the economy. what do you think of st. paul's ni nightlife going forward? >> our community is reeling from this. obviously it's more than just 15 families. those families are our 15 victims. it's our community, ilts our restaurants, ourly, is because we're not ugsd to thing like this happening. >> sgoel to partner with the community elders who could
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days after explosive testimony from a facebook whistleblower, the social media giant is in damage control mode. calls are growing for congress to act after former facebook employee francis hougen told the news that they are allowing crime to rise. the stock has already taken a beating. shares are down 15% from an all-time high last month, and now facebook executive nick clegg appears to be on a pr offensive, making the rounds on the sunday morning shows but remaining defiant. he told our dana bash that he couldn't give a yes or no answer when asked if facebook's algorithms worked to the benefit of insurrectionists leading up to the january 6 insurrection. >> if our algorithms are as
nefarious as some people suggest, why is it that it's proce precisely those systems that have reduced the prevalence of hate speech on our platforms to as little as 0.5%? >> correspondent brian stelter joins me now. good to see you, brian. look, facebook is no stranger to criticism to being in crisis mode, right? but i have never seen facebook be in damage control mode quite like i have seen this. why is that? why are you seeing this? >> i agree with you, i think it's because of the impact of facebook whistleblower francis hougen, because of how credible she is and how many documents she has provided to reporters in order to back up her claims. there has never been someone from inside the house making such a strong warning about facebook, and that's why the company is on the defense this weekend. three sunday shows today, including "state of the union." that is unprecedented for facebook. that is a company acting like a
nation state, acting like a political party. it's helpful to view facebook as a giant global player just like a country with a president, with a prime minister, with a parliament. that is facebook. it is a global player. they are acting that way in the wake of these damning claims from the whistleblower. hougen is not the only one making these arguments. you have former staffers echoing her comments, but because she has documents pointing to facebook knowing about their own dangers, you hear facebook respond. you heard clegg say, we're working on hate speech, we've made great progress. that was a statement made about a year ago. now there are statements that hougen put on the table and he will likely follow up on those. he said they're working on features to urge you to take a break if you use instagram too much. maybe in six months that feature will exist, but what about all
the damage in the meantime? >> what about all the damage in the meantime, and why does it take so much public blowback to make those common sense changes? the question now is, what is congress going to do? you have democratic senator amy klobuchar also speaking to our dana bash this morning on "state of the union." she says she appreciates clegg's w willingness to talk about things but remains skeptical. >> the time for action is now. basically the social media has been saying, and the other tech platforms, trust us, we got this. look where we are now. i think it's time to listen to people like francis hougen, the incredibly courageous whistleblower, who came forward, and not be afraid to take action anymore. >> there is a question of facebook and there is the question of congress. why hasn't congress done more? klobuchar is calling for privacy legislation as well as more
transparency into facebook's algorithms. how likely is it, in your view, that america's politicians will stand up to facebook and take action? by the way, politicians rely on facebook, often when they're running for reelection. >> yes, they do, and they raise lots of money via facebook and they get many donations, and that's across the big tech world. we're talking google or facebook or other tech platforms. the question is whether facebook will change on its own or whether the government will step in and make changes. with regard to the government, i think our skepticism level should be maybe not a 10, but at least at a 9. what you're talking about the reliance on facebook, what i'm talking about with the donations, and the incredible disarray we see in congress every day when it comes to the debt ceiling. we know what liberals and conservatives want is very different. they're both mad at the big tech platforms but for different
reasons. they're upset with google and apple, but for very different reasons. i think we need to be skeptical about progress being made. you think the expedition is low, but you're always pleasantly surprised when it turns out to be higher. >> "snl" showed the whistleblower of facebook trying to confuse senators. laets let's watch. >> my question is, i have 2,000 friends on facebook. is that good? >> is it good? >> is that a lot? 2,000 sounds like a lot. how many does drake have, 4,000? >> i think he has like 50 million. >> oh, my god. no wonder he never answered my pope. >> ms. hougen, you've told us a lot about this so-called
algorithm. where is it? >> the algorithm? >> yes. do you have it with you now? >> no, but there are algorithms in all of our phones and computers. >> not mine. i got a jitterbug flip phone. only lets me call my son or the hospital. >> is that what the kids are calling a meme? >> we did a montage recently of all the funny things lawmakers have said, but what is your reaction? >> number one, they're absolutely right, that we need lawmakers who reflects the times and right now we don't seem to have that. the whistleblower is fine. the house will be testifying in front of european leaders, and speaking of european officials, they might be where he we see m progress made. facebook stock down 15% from last month. no prior scandal has hurt
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star trek's captain kirk will have to wait a little longer to go where no, shall we say, older human has gone before? blue origin is delaying william shatner's space trip by a day because of high winds. the launch is now slated for wednesday, at which point the 90-year-old actor will become the oldest person ever to travel to space. cnn's kristen fisher has a
preview. >> i'm losing command. i'm losing the enterprise. >> reporter: he led the uss enterprise on an intergalactic ody odyssey. now he will get to go on his own odyssey. >> things i've only played as an actor, i'm going to see firsthand. >> reporter: star trek's iconic captain james kirk will soon get to go to space for real. >> i'm thrilled and anxious and a little nervous and a little, uh, frightened about this whole new adventure. >> reporter: blue origin announced on monday that actor william shatner will be on the company's next flight alongside audrey powers, blue origin's vice president of mission and flight operations. >> two, one. >> reporter: shatner, powers and two others will lift off from a remote stretch of west texas less than three months after the company's first crude launch. the crew will enjoy about four
minutes of weightlessness during an 11-minute suborbital trip to space, similar to what jeff bezos, his brother, and two others did during the summer. >> i go to the edge of space and loosen the restraints around me and be weightless and looking into the vastness of the universe. >> reporter: shatner, who played captain kirk on the hit television series "star trek" and went on to star in seven "star trek" films, joked about this opportunity years ago. >> if you were given the opportunity to go into space, would you? >> if i got a guarantee that i would come back. >> reporter: that opportunity is now here, and 90-year-old shatner seems surprised himself. >> because 55 years ago, i was destitute and i'm looking up at the sky, at the astronauts stepping on the moon, and i had a little bit to do with those astronauts. and 55 years later, i'm going
into space. i want to come back and tell you about how i really felt when i saw these things that we've only learned about secondhand. >> reporter: his fans are excited to hear about his mission too. many taking to twitter to express their excitement. late-night host stephen colbert even making a joke about the mission, tweeting, i hope william shatner doesn't have unrealistic expectations of what space is like. kristen fisher, cnn, washington. still to come right here on the "cnn newsroom" on this sunday, the fbi says it foiled an espionage plot involving a navy engineer, his wife, and a peanut butter sandwich. we're going to have more on this story just ahead. stay with us. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪
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princess diana was the most famous woman in the world. everywhere she went around the globe from state dinners to charitable missions, a throng of media and admirers followed her. the all-new cnn original series "diana going quinns in just a couple of hours, and here's a quick look with cnn's max foster. >> reporter: diana's childhood home, the althorpe estate. no longer a member of the royal family but still the mother of a future king. she was an icon of fashion and of humanitarianism, single handedly transforming public perceptions of everything from hiv/aids, to leprosy, to the
scourge of disused land mines. her celebrity was her greatest asset, but it's also what ultimately killed her according to both her sons and her brother, who still lives here at althorp. >> our thanks to max foster. the all-new cnn original series "diana" premieres tonight at 9:00. i'm pamela brown in washington. you are live in the "cnn newsroom" on this sunday evening, and it's great to have you along with us tonight. frustration, finger-pointing and paralysis. in washington, the toxic brew is rising to a bubble. lawmakers now face tremendous pressure to take on facebook just days after a whistle-blower launched blistering and damning accusations against the company that it's allowing extremism to thrive, fomenting national divisions and even harming the mental well-being of children. and at the white house, troubles new and old weigh down the president.