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i'm pamela brown in washington. you are in the cnn newsroom on this saturday. we begin this hour with breaking news. a passenger aboard an american eagle flight is in custody tonight after forcing an emergency landing at laguardia airport in new york. >> one person aboard the flight says as soon as the plane came to a halt the pilots and flight attendants began shouting for everyone to evacuate. cnn's paolo sandoval is gathering the latest information. what have you learned tonight? >> reporter: the key detail here, all the passengers and crew aboard that flight that made the emergency landing at laguardia earlier this afternoon
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are okay as the investigation gets started here. that plane actually touched down at about the time that it was scheduled to. however, the landing when you look at these pictures, it was anything but routine because the crew aboard american flight 4817 initially reported that emergency or at least declared that emergency after several people aboard that plane noticed a fellow passenger acting strangely, erratic is the way they described it. as a result, they reached out to authorities on the ground that scrambled first responders ahead of that plane's safe landing and according to republic airways, which owns and on rates the flight flying for american, apparently moved from that very active runway over to a taxiway and that's when that emergency evacuation was initiated. the goal would be to have authorities board the plane, make sure there was no threat and at this point authorities don't believe there was an actual threat as they begin to investigate. as we see these powerful images,
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it is still unclear whether or not the individual seen in this video that was captured by some passengers was the passenger in question. we also don't know of any criminal charges that have been filed so far. again, that investigation just getting underway. this is happening after the federal aviation administration reported an increase in the number of incidents with unruly passengers. last check, looking at the statistics here, 4,600 this year. that is a number that is reflective of what appears to be apparently the highest weekly increase in the last couple of months, and that's, obviously, the kind of behavior authorities have been trying to crack down on. we need to be clear. we don't know the circumstances about this particular case. all we know is that the 76 passengers and six crew aboard that plane are safe tonight as that investigation just gets started. >> and that is very good news. paolo sandoval, thank you so much. we turn to the fight for the truth and the big lie about the 2020 election and the growing
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fear that we could see bloodshed like this or worse all over again in the near future. tonight former president donald trump is using every tactic he can think of to stop the house select committee on january 6th from hearing and reading what it wants to know about the attempted coup. of the four former trump aides subpoenaed, two are engaging with the panel. one finally accepted a subpoena after days of avoiding being served and one, steve bannon, is refusing to cooperate. he cites trump's claim of executive privilege. but the white house is refusing to step in and help give trump any kind of shield. and so trump may avail himself of the course, perhaps delaying the probe even longer. long enough perhaps for republicans to win back the house and shut down the investigation for good. but all of this may just be the precursor for what happens in the next election, the presidential race in 2024. trump is the candidate to beat among republicans. we have seen what he was willing
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to do to stay in power. and last night comedian bill maher offered a sobering analogy about how trump and his backers could try to cheat the system again with trump pushing to get the friendly to him in key positions to oversee the vote count across the country. >> but this time his claims of illegal voting by immigrants or mail-in ballots after the deadline or the system was hacked by venezuela, whatever, giuliani comes up with on the fly, they will be fully embraced by the stooges he is installing right now. what happens when to two presidential candidates show up expecting to be sworn in like a bad soitcom pilots? the dong dongs who sacked the capitol last year was like when al qaeda tried to take down the world trade center with a van. it was a joke. the next time they came back
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with planes. i hope i shared the [ bleep ] out of you. >> with me adam, staff writer for "the atlantic." his recent piece looked at ways the attempted coup unfolded and are now public. also cnn presidential historian douglas brinkley. thanks both of you for joining us. on this show we have tried to cover this pretty much every weekend. this threat to democracy, the concerns about future elections, and, adam, that was very stark comparison bill maher made between undermining an election and 9/11. is that fair, that prediction, do you think? >> i mean, you don't need to reach into -- you don't need to go to al qaeda to find examples of democratic elections being overthrown in the united states. we have precedents for this in the american south after reconstruction with the violent overthrow of the reconstruction governments by democrats and their paramilitary allies. so, you know, this is not
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something that is unheard of in the united states except we have never seen it at this level, the federal level. i think what, you know, on the one hand, you know, i think it's probably more likely that donald trump may actually win under the electoral college system that, you know, privileges republicans because of the geographic distribution of their coalition. should he lose, i do agree with maher, he will attempt to overturn the results as he did last time. last time there were not enough republicans in the right positions to ensure his plan would work. as he said, as many have documented, the -- the supporters of the president have been installing themselves in the election machinery of various key states and should the president say the election was unfair and i actually won, i don't think we can be confident that those -- do their duty rather than do what donald trump said for them to do. >> doug, how concerned are you
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about that happening? >> i am very concerned. i grew up, i read the sinclair lewis novel, it can't happen here, meaning authoritarianism and fascism. yes, it can. donald trump is a fascist leader and he is mobilizing his forces. one would be a fool to not take bill maher seriously. obviously, he's painting a doomsday scenario of democracy unraveling. and we have to always remind ourselves that joe biden won by 10 million votes and that many republicans are stepping up against donald trump. but the thought that i think maher nailed is trump is probably going to run in 2024. it's hard to imagine him not unless something health-wise knocked him out of the day. he is a formidable adversary. it's a warning to the democratic party to stand together and unite. they don't have the luxury, the
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democrats, of having moderates and progressives. they have to be unified anti-trump forces in order to keep our democracy on track. >> you know, and i remember before the election personally as a journalist, i found it alarming the rhetoric coming from trump, saying if i lose the election is rigged, and i remember asking politicians, democrats about it and they wanted to put that aside and talk about whatever was going on that day. lo and behold, we are learning now about all of the ways behind the scenes that he tried to overturn the election results in his favor. adam, you lay out all of the ways that he did it in plain view as well in this article that you wrote for "the atlantic." walk us through that. >> i mean, he tried to get the secretaries of state, of the states, not to certify the election. he tried to get the state legislators to overturn the results in states controlled by
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republican legislatures. they tried to petition the supreme court to overturn the election by fiat, which did not work this team. and they tried to get mike pence to decide through a ludicrous reading of the constitution that the vice president has the unilateral authority to declare the winner of the presidential election. they tried to get miles per hour to overthrow the results. and then they tried to get the knob to do the job for them and that didn't work either. that's not a to say it couldn't work next time. after all, the real threat here is the underlying ideology that the republican party has adopted that says the rival party's constituencies are not american and it doesn't matter if we are overvoted, or if the other side wins the election, they are not true americans and, therefore, only we have the right to govern. because of that underlying ideology, doesn't matter how preposterous the justification
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for overthrowing the election is. these people who are devoted to donald trump will believe it and will justify that as an excuse to overthrow a democratically selected president. >> doug, we just heard adam talk about mike pence. we saw him follow the constitution. he knew what was at stake. yet, here he is just this past week trying to spin his way out of january 6th. let's watch. >> i know the media wants to distract from the biden administration's failed jepd by focusing on one day in january. they want to use that one day to try to demean the character and intentions of 74 million americans who believed we could be strong again and prosperous again and supported our administration in 2016 and 2020. >> that one day in january. what is your reaction, doug? >> well, vice president pence is spineless.
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he did the right thing on one day, and thank goodness for former vice president dan quayle, who advised pence, my god, are you kidding me? there is no debate. follow the law. but pence's feeling that all the momentum, the mojo is in -- with team trump, he is trying to grash yat himself back into that crowd. he made an embarrassment of himself by his recent comments. i mean, you probably should have gone gracefully into the night. we would have gotten accolades in history as somebody who did the right thing on january 6th, on that crucial turning point in u.s. democratic political history, but, alas, he is doing what bill maher worried about, and that's pandering to this trumpism because you are either with donald trump 100% or you're against him. and that is what authoritarianism is all about. >> all right, thanks for coming on, sharing your perspective on this very important topic that we're going to continue to stay
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on on this show. thank you so much. > >> thanks. taiwan set to show off its u.s. made patriot missile and a big military parade meant to get china's attention. we will take you there live and talk about thousand taiwan becoming a major test for president biden and why every american should care about what is happening there. also ahead, i speak to a doctor who enrolled her 16-month-old son in the covid vaccine trial for kids. then why your holiday gift orders may take longer to reach their destination this year. and finally, i meet a family who escaped the violence in afghanistan to start a new life in america. how it's going for them coming up in the show. ♪ you pour your heart into everything you do, which is a lot. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'.
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split from china in 1949 during the civil war. but today's display will also be a show of force aimed at its powerful neighbor. speaking today, china's president xi said peaceful reunification would best serve china's and taiwan's interests. but taiwan's defense minister says the tensions are the worst in 40 years. in recent weeks beijing has thrown dozens of warplanes into taiwan's airspace, ratcheting up fears that china is going to reun reunify with taiwan by force if necessary. there is concern the u.s. could caught in the middle. joining me to explain, will ripley in taipei and arlette saenz with the president in wilmington, delaware. we will start with you. tell me about the parade and what it's intended to convey, especially that u.s. made patriot missile. >> reporter: pam, it's an extraordinary sight that we're
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expecting here in the coming hours. something that a lot of people on island of taiwan never thought they'd see, to have missiles rolling through the streets of taipei in front of the presidential palace. this national day parade normally peaceful is strike militaristic tone this year. you talked about the chinese warplanes. not taiwanese airspace, but this buffer zone. when planes enter it the military scrambles its own fighter jets. they deploy anti-missile defense systems and issue radio warnings like this. >> reporter: taiwan is bolstering its defenses. they bought $5 billion in weapons from the united states
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last year, pam, a bd that includes, as you mentioned, that u.s. made patriot missiles. >> and here is what makes this tricky for the biden administration. you have a lot going on here. you have the relationship with china. sources say the u.s. marines have been stationed on taiwan for more than a year to help train taiwanese troops. the pentagon has not confirmed those reports. if ytrue, it would put the u.s. in the middle of this tense situation. >> reporter: it would, pamela. this comes as the u.s. has really become increasingly concerned about china's military actions and buildups regarding many different areas of our regional security. and this week you had the national security advisor jake sullivan speaking with his foreign counterpart of china in meetings during zurich where he brought up some of these areas of concern, including taiwan. president biden said that he spoke with president xi will the issue of taiwan as well. and the secretary of state
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antony blinken warned towards china about taking actions like this which he called provocative. take a listen. >> the activity is destabilizing. it risks miscalculation and it has the potential to undermine regional peace and stability. so we strongly urge beijing to cease its military, diplomatic and economic pressure and coercion directed at taiwan. >> reporter: so this is something that the white house is certainly watching closely, the developments regarding china's military build-up around taiwan as well as taiwan's ability to defend itself. of course, the u.s. relationship with taiwan has always been very sensitive, in part due to that defense situation. but it also comes as the white house has really tried to shift their foreign policy to really focus on china from a competitive standpoint and also those issues of regional security. now, the white house has said
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that they are teeing up a virtual meeting between president biden and president xi jinping later this year. it's expected to happen by the end of the year. they are expected to talk about a host of these issues as the u.s. wants to make sure that they can keep some of those security issues in check, but also maintain that competitive stance with china. >> and, will, taiwan's president spoke and said, quote, taiwan does not seek military confrontation. it hopes for a peaceful, stable, predictable and mutually beneficial coexistence with its neighbors, but taiwan will also do whatever it takes to defend its freedom and democratic way of life. taiwan appears to not be looking for a fight here, will, but what will china? >> pam, i want to point out we received moments ago this from taiwan's military national defense. it lists the missiles on display here. the u.s. made patriot missiles will not be rolling in front.
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presidential palace. you're right. the big question is china looking to absorb taiwan as every chinese leader since mao has vowed to do. chinese president xi jinping, arguably, has a military to do it. some u.s. military exercises predicted it would be a matter of days potentially even with u.s. backing if china were to launch a full-out assault on the island. the island is trying to deter china as much as possible with this porcupine strategy, hold off chinese incoming forces as much as possible while they seek assistance from allies like the u.s. and japan which doesn't want to see taiwan fall into the control of mainland china because that could put missiles within 100 miles of japan. what happens in taiwan is hugely important and idealogical, the president said that this island is front and center of a fight between authoritarian governments and democracy. the u.s. and china representing
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two very different ideologies clashing because this is the only cheese-speaking democracy in the world. it is a fragile democracy at best because they know here in taiwan this they are outspent by roughly 15 times in terms of national defense spend bigt mainland. therefore, they are relying on the u.s. and other allies to come to their defense. chinese president xi jinping talked about reunification of taiwan. listen. >> translator: those who forget their heritage betray their mother land and it will come to no good end. they will be disdained by the people and condemned by history. >> reporter: here in taiwan president tsai and other leaders point out this island has governed itself since the end of china's civil war for 70 years. beijing has never once ruled this island. they don't agree with that term reunification. they want a sustainable coexistence with their
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democratic system remaining intact. >> it is clear, though, tensions are rising between the two, and there are serious geopolitical ramifications particularly for the united states in all of this. will ripley, arlette, thank you both. the u.s. is very close to kicking off vaccinations for kids younger than 12. it's thanks to parents like our next guest who enrolled her kids in vaccine trials. she joins us next for an update with her kids. we will see if they are still around after this break. s vacat. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no.' everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to... and...when he wants to. so ray...can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit
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the fight against covid-19, there is a potential game changer for many parents of young children. fda advisors meet later this month to discuss emergency use authorization for a vaccine for 5 to 11-year-olds. that means the shots could be just weeks away. joining me now to discuss is dr. galvin from the baylor college of medicine. we talked with her in the spring after she enrolled her toddler son in the pfizer vaccine trial for babies as young as 6 months. thank you so much for coming back to talk with us. we have your adorable children, 3-year-old charlie, 20-month-old nathan, who seems to be snacking. i'm kind of jealous right now. he seems to be doing great after the trial. tell us how he has been doing. >> thank you for having us back. >> tell us how -- because i remember we talked at the time, you were just enrolled in the trial. were there any side effects? anything like that?
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and what do you want to say about this news that the -- that it looks as though shots will be approved for kids 5 and up? >> yes. so the children did perfectly fine. they did very, very well. they were having dance parties after each shot. so i think that they did fine. as far as the news is concerned, as a physician i'm ecstatic. you know, this last wave was devastating for us here in texas for the whole country, really. our children's hospital was overwhelmed. and so it was something that, you know, of course, it preceded starting school. for a lot of parents it's a huge, huge weight lifted. certainly it's not the only thing we can do to help mitigate the effects of this pandemic, but it's a very important one. >> so you first enrolled your baby, little nathan, and then you decided to enroll your 3-year-old son in the trial. clearly, no hesitation there? >> no. i wouldn't say i didn't
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hesitate. i had reservations. but it's really just ab balance of risks and benefits. it's not a matter if the children will encounter covid-19. it's a matter of when. for me it felt prudent, actually, very conservative to enroll them in this trial because, you know, every parent, they just want to protect their children as best they could. i knew the data. i understood it. i worked with some of the best specialist in the field and i was comfortable with dr. munoz on the trial with us. understanding all the resources that we were afforded, it made sense for our family to participate. >> i want to point out as you were talking nathan shared his snack with his big brother charlie. that is something i don't see in my household with my 1-year-old and 3-year-old. so you will have to give me tips on how you get your kids to share. pfizer and biontech is now officially seeking fda emergency use authorization to vaccinate children 5 to 11 as we were just
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talking about. you admitted just then that you were a little bit worried, you know, you had some reservations about getting your child through this -- the trial, the vaccine and so forth. what message do you have then for parents who might hesitate once the shots are available for their kids? >> well, i'd have to admit, once school started and the fourth wave began i was so grateful i enrolled. we know that children are just as likely to contract the virus. they may not necessarily have symptoms but they can contract it to others. now we have more and more children with this delta variant being admitted to hospitals and suffering the consequences of covid. we don't know the long-term effects of covid. there are changes in their brain based on mri findings. even asymptomatic patients are having changes. so i think understanding this and understanding the nature of vaccines, it makes sense that we all try and do what is safest for our whole family and for our
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communities. and as you can see, they have been fine. >> i know it's probably sweet nathan's bedtime. really quickly, i want to ask you because some parents will decide not to vaccinate their children, right? that's going to be an interesting dynamic for young kids at school, some who have been vaccinated, others who haven't. is it important for parents to have conversations with their children about that? >> 100%. and then also i think it would be very important to include your pediatrician in this discussion. we certainly actually involved their paediatrician while makin these decisions. i think it's a really safe resource to use. oh, geez. so sorry. >> do not apologize. i have a baby at home. i get it.
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he just has a lot that he wants to express on the show, and that's okay. he wants to spread the word of how great vaccines are for kids. >> he a healthy boy. and i think we should all try to keep our children as healthy as possible. our teachers, our family members, grandparents. if it's found to be the safest -- >> we hear you, nathan. we're hearing you loud and clear, buddy. nathan, charlie, you were so well behaved. thank you. and dr. galvin, thank you so much for that important and entertaining segment. >> okay. we're done. thanks. >> see you later. well, off the coast of california a record number of cargo ships are parked in the ocean and if you shop, that's a problem. >> you're looking at all of the electronics. you are looking at all of the home goods. you are looking at all of the
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>> reporter: to understand the problem on the ground you first need to see it from the air. >> we're flying right over the anchorage south of the port of los angeles and long beach. >> reporter: this where the global supply chain meets the u.s. economy, says the coast guard commander. >> it's record-breaking, unprecedented. there are more ships than parking spots. we are effectively operating a waiting line in the pacific ocean. >> reporter: this bottleneck of container ships as far as the eye can see carries more than half the made in asia items purchased by the american consumer. >> you are looking at all of the electronics. you are looking at all of the home goods. all of the things that people are looking forward to buy this coming holiday season. >> reporter: zero ships usually stay parked here. but on this day commander bore counts 55 in the ports and more drifting further out in the pacific. while worst here, the backup is
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at all west coast u.s. ports. >> what does that indicate to you about what's happening in the supply chain? >> i think everybody can see that things are slowing down. >> reporter: slowing down and piling up at sea. and at the ports of entry. this is what happens when a global economy snaps back after the covid slump of 2020. american consumers are back buying with force, but the supply chain is struggling to kauch up. >> we need an amazon stand in this industry. i mean amazon changed everything. >> reporter: while shoppers click 24 hours a day, factories in asia are still stopping due to covid. then in the u.s. national labor shortages and limited work hours. the port of long beach is just now experimenting with round clock operations. >> this is a quwake-up call fors to realize you can't operate with the model of yesterday. >> reporter: the goal, cut the wait time for truck drivers. the next link of the supply chain. moving containers out of the
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port. >> every day five, six hours in the harbor. >> you have to wait like six hours. >> reporter: six hours? >> circusix or eight. >> i was there for nine hours. >> reporter: nine hours he could have been moving merchandise. >> that means i am making less money. i can't do as many rounds. >> reporter: national data shows there is a truck driver shortage. the problem is even more basic than tharnlts the poat. >> >> everyone's backed up and it's just a big problem. >> reporter: it's like a chain reaction? >> exactly. >> reporter: delayed trucks means delays at warehouses like canton food company in los angeles. >> we have about eight containers on the harbor somewhere from china and vietnam. >> reporter: filled with food? >> still waiting. >> reporter: that means for this warehouse empty shelves with no date to fill them. basic economics are at play. scarcity drives up prices. so it's almost doubled in price?
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>> i would say maybe at least 70%. >> reporter: prices for ingredients, restaurant owner carlos has to pay. >> all those different products that you have to substitute, you have to change, now 30% more. 50% more. 100% more. >> reporter: this location operates in a renovated shipping container. the supplies he needs sit out at sea in the same metal bins. a cruel irony after barely keeping his restaurant open through the pandemic. >> we worry as far as, because you don't know what's going to happen, rights? you don't know what's next. >> reporter: how long are these ships going to be floating out here. >> i can't say how long they are going to be like this. i think we are all going to wait and see how long this shakes out. >> reporter: the consensus from the coast guard to the economists to the workers on the supply chain, this could last
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tens of thousands of people clamor to get out of afghanistan as it fell to the taliban. i'm sure you remember those images coming out. even some clinging to planes taking off from kabul. what has it been like for those who actually managed to escape and make it to the u.s.? i met with one family adjusting bit by bit to a new home and a new country. >> every day i feel like i'm starting a new life. >> they arrived in august after fleeing afghanistan on a special immigrant visa. what was that like when you stepped foot in the u.s.? >> all this greenery, fresh and wonderful. >> reporter: they were initially on their open when they arrived. sleeping on the floor and surviving off just enough
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saved-up money for food as they awaited housing help from one of the nine resettlement organizations receiving funds from the u.s. government. >> he had to start everything from zero. >> reporter: at least they felt safe up like their final weeks in georgia when the taliban was taking over. he said he worked alongside a u.s. defense company and knew his family could be targeted. >> our daughter is our priority. that's what made us move. >> i cooperate make myself eat. i was so stressed. i don't see myself stopping. >> reporter: the family is among the estimated 60,000 after gaps resettling in the u.s. after a rapid and chaotic withdrawal from the 20-year war in afghanistan. >> so many of them have gone through a tremendous amount for us that we consider it not only our obligation but quite frankly, a pri to dedicate our
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resources for them in return. >> reporter: but the unprecedented relocation efforts have come with challenges, like finding affordable housing and security procedures for people entering the united states. >> we take their fingerprints. we get their buy graphical information. we take their picture. >> have you met some that didn't get through? >> oh, yes. remember, we have our enforcement authorities as well that we could bring to bear and have brought to bear. >> reporter: in resettlement efforts have resumed after the cdc made just requirements against infectious diseases including covid-19. where refugees end up inspect the u.s. depends on their status. >> if, in fact, they're u.s.
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citizens and they're lawful permanent residents or visa holders, they are actually able to resettle directly into the united states. but if they are not then they go to one of eight military facilities where a tremendous amount of row sources are dedicated to their belling with. >> reporter: the accommodations have raised questions about why the same isn't being done for migrants arriving at the southern border in record numbers. that the u.s. was able to set up this system so quickly for afghans, why not the southern border? >> remember, we are working with countries to the south that are dealing with border management challenges themselves, resource constrains and the like, so the challenges are very different here than they are with respect
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to the afghan nationals. >> reporter: the family is living in a one bedroom apartment in virginia they found through one of the resettlement organizations. but mary whitehill says housing alone is not enough to make refugee families feel at home in the u.s. >> imagine you're coming to a new country, being dropped off. we can intervene to make sure that the arrival is a completion to the refugee experience and the beginning of a resettlement experience. these are our newest americans. we have a tremendous opportunity to show up for them. >> someone who doesn't even know us. >> reporter: they say mary's list gave them comfort items, like this hand made blanket, toys for her daughter and comfortable beds to sleep in. >> i said we need beds. she said what type of beds? that was big for me. i get to choose my own bed.
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