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president biden rejecting the former guy's request to keep white house records away from the january 6th select committee. plus steve bannon defying his subpoena. the committee now threatening to advance a criminal contempt of congress referral. and on the search for brian laundrie, police say there's no physical evidence in the area that they've been searching for weeks. this comes amid new questions about what his family knows. police describe one of their first interactions with parents as, quote, odd. i want to bring in jeffrey
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toobin and kirsten powers. good evening to both of you. so, jeffrey toobin, trump sent a list of 45 documents to the national archives writing, i hereby formally assert executive privilege over these records. that's pretty specific. he's clearly going -- he's going to fight this, but can he stop the records from being released really? >> well, he can go to court, and the point here may be delay as much as it is victory. this is the problem that this congressional committee faces, is that even though i think this committee has a strong legal position, especially about the testimony of steve bannon and the other non-governmental witnesses, by going to court, the former guy, donald trump, puts the case in front of judges who cannot -- who usually do not resolve these matters in a matter of weeks as opposed to
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months. and this congressional committee does not have months. so the mere act of going to court may frustrate this committee's position even if the committee ultimately winds up winning. >> kirsten, trump's hold on the gop, as we have been talking, incredibly strong. no surprise there. can the select committee get the answers they need before the midterms because, you know, if republicans regain control of congress, this investigation -- i mean it's done, don't you think? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. i can't imagine them investigating something that they claim isn't even a problem. what would be the investigation be about from their perspective? and so, look, if trump has his way, what jeffrey is saying is he's trying to gum up the gears. he's trying to slow things down. and so that's part of the point of this, i think. i think the other part of this is just to put it out into trump land with all of his supporters,
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the idea that he has the right to assert executive privilege and that if somehow, you know, the documents make their way to the committee, that he's been mistreated, that he asserted executive privilege. this wasn't information that was supposed to go forward even though that's not how it works, and we know that that's not how it works, that the sitting president is the one who asserts the executive privilege. but i think trump, as always, is trying to put out another story line that makes him seem that he's being victimized by the deep state and the elites in washington. >> yeah. jeffrey, let's talk about steve bannon refusing to comply with the subpoena, but we're told that trump's former chief of staff mark meadows, former pentagon aide kash patel, they are, quote, so far engaging with the committee. i'm not exactly sure what that means. dan scavino, though, no word on dan scavino. the strategy in trump world, as you've said, is to delay at all costs. so considering when you think about what happens with this
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committee, is there a best path for them to force these aides to comply, or are they at the mercy of nothing? >> i mean i'm afraid there is not a great path here because the legal system does not work quickly. even if, as appears likely, the committee seeks a criminal contempt charge through the justice department, that's a legal proceeding, and that has to go to the district court. and then once a district court hears briefingnd hears arguments and writes a decision, that goes to the circuit court. and then after there's briefing and argument and a decision in the circuit court, there's the potential for petition to the supreme court. i mean this is a months-long process. but it is worth just saying, don, that it is so outrageous that steve bannon, who is a non-governmental actor, who has -- you know, who couldn't
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conceivably assert executive privilege, he is saying he is not going to cooperate with this committee. i mean that is a -- >> does he have any legal standing, jeffrey? >> what? >> does he have any legal standing because, as you said, he didn't even work for the white house or no governmental standing. >> none. none at all. but, you know, with the president -- the former president asserting executive privilege, it still has to go through the courts. and in my experience, even frivolous legal claims, you know, take weeks if not months to resolve themselves. but the bannon situation, you know, mark meadows was the white house chief of staff. there is a conceivable executive privilege claim. with bannon, there's nothing, absolutely nothing that he could claim except that he can make -- you know, he can keep the former president happy by refusing to
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testify. and the courts, unless i'm proven wrong -- perhaps i will be. it's certainly happened before -- will not move quickly enough for bannon to be forced to testify in this committee hearing. >> another story about how this president and this person has u used the courts and how litigious. it's just amazing. >> don, you know, when the house judiciary committee subpoenaed don mcgahn, trump's white house counsel, it took two years to get through the court. two years. that's the kind of system that we're dealing with here. >> oh, boy. kirsten, let's talk about another tough thing that's happening in another tough week for the biden presidency. a disappointing jobs report. the country barely avoided a default. the debt ceiling remains, right? that mess remains. it's temporary that they -- you know, they're stopping it now, but they're going to have to
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deal with it in december. and his domestic agenda, if i can get my lips to work right on a friday, is in jeopardy. i mean biden ran as a candidate that could get things done. so how is he going to pull all this off? >> well, look, yes, i mean i think he's trying to get things done. but we also have to keep perspective on this which it's not like he has 60 democratic votes in the senate. he's working with a very narrow majority and with a couple senators who are -- you know, aren't going to go along with his agenda as he's laid it out and are fighting him on it. look, the majority of democrats are with him. 48 of the democrats in the senate are with him. two of them are giving him a hard time. so i think that that's something that he has to now bridge between these two sides of the party, and that's hard. so i don't think that we should just say, you know, biden's not getting things done. he's been dealt a really not great hand, and i think that we don't know yet what's going to
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happen. so i've been saying i think that they are going to reach a deal. and in terms of the debt ceiling, that's a problem that was created by the republicans. that has nothing -- joe biden had nothing to do with it. the republicans decided that they were going to, you know, not support that and then at the last minute came along and kicked the can down the road. and now we're acting like they've saved the day when all they did was fix a problem that they caused. >> temporarily fix a problem that they caused. >> yeah, temporarily, exactly. so i think that he's -- i think he's been dealt not the best hand in terms of having, you know, 50 democrats who would support him completely, and so he's got to negotiate this. and i think he's still probably going to pull it off. >> okay. we'll see. jeffrey, i want to talk to you now about this wildly restrictive abortion law in texas. a federal judge had stopped the law from being enforced. the state of texas then appealed, and tonight the fifth u.s. circuit court of appeals
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granted the state's request. so now what? >> well, i mean, you know, again, don, it's worth pausing to consider that the women of texas are being denied constitutional rights that have been guaranteed to them for 50 years, since roe v. wade. and what the circuit court has done is reinstated this clearly unconstitutional ban. you know, the women of texas had their constitutional rights for about three days since this law has gone -- went into effect on september 1. what happens now is the fifth circuit, this three-judge panel, the most conservative circuit court in the country, and it looks like this panel, which is two republican appointees, one democratic appointee, will hear briefing and argument, and they will decide whether this law, you know, goes -- remains in
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effect. but let's be clear. this law is contrary to supreme court precedent, and it is a complete outrage that the fifth circuit has reinstated it, perhaps only temporarily, but that's now the state of play. abortion is now effectively illegal in texas again, and it will remain that way until the fifth circuit acts otherwise. >> kirsten? >> yeah. i mean what's the commonality of everything we're talking about here? it's total contempt for the law, right? it's like don't have to respond to subpoenas, don't have to act like they even understand executive privilege, don't have to honor the constitution, have created the scheme explicitly to get around the constitutional rights that have been granted to women according to the supreme court, which last time i checked decides what the law of the land is. so it's just this utter contempt
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for the law from the law and order party. >> well, the supposed law and order party, yeah, unless you don't want to follow that law. >> exactly. >> or order. the other people's law and order. that's no, don't do that. >> totally different, yes. >> thank you both. have a good weekend. i appreciate it. now to the former president pressuring texas to audit the 2020 election even though republican state officials have been calling it a success. so why are they punishing -- excuse me. why are they pushing his big lie? here's cnn's ed lavandera. >> reporter: donald trump might have won the state of texas by more than five points in the 2020 election, but he won the state by nine points four years earlier. so now the former president is focused on pushing the lie that the vote in texas was marred by fraud. >> they say i'm being aggressive, but you have to be aggressive to weed out this
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horrible election corruption. >> reporter: in september, trump sent texas governor greg abbott a letter calling for the state to conduct a full forensic audit of the election with zero evidence. trump writes, texans know voter fraud occurred. it didn't take long for abbott to feel the pressure. on the same day, the republican governor announced an audit in harris, dallas, tarrant and collin counties. >> isn't it just a terrible waste of taxpayer money to have an audit in a state that everybody says went fine and that president trump won by 600,000 votes, and aren't you contributing to this undermining confidence in our election process? >> why do we audit everything in this world but people raise their hands in concern when we audit elections, which is fundamental to our democracy? >> reporter: earlier this year, the state's election administrator told a legislative committee there were no problems with the election. >> in spite of all the circumstances, texas had an election that was smooth and
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secure. >> president trump said jump. the governor said, how high? >> reporter: dallas county judge clay jenkins, a democrat, says the audit is about undermining democracy and to justify stricter election laws that will make it harder for people to vote. >> this is just jumping around to play into that narrative, to please president trump and to set the table for what this is really about, which is passing laws to make it harder for people to vote. >> reporter: governor abbott has denied cnn's request for an interview but has said he picked two democratic counties and two republican counties for the audit. while dallas and harris counties vote democratic, republicans have been losing ground in tarrant and collin counties. in 2020, trump lost tarrant county by half a percentage point after winning it by eight percentage points in 2016. and in suburban collin county, trump's lead plummeted from 17 points in 2016 to 4 points in
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2020. >> this could be a good thing for them, or it could blow up in their face. >> reporter: gary fickis is a longtime county commissioner in tarrant county and a republican. he says he has no reason to believe there are any issues with the vote count. i guess all of this kind of begs the question, why is the governor and some texas republicans willing to kind of like bend over backwards to appease the former president, who has been pushing this idea of a big lie? do you think this all kind of feeds into this? >> i think it's all about politics, but i would be very surprised if we have a problem in texas, especially in tarrant county. >> reporter: ed lavandera, cnn, dallas. >> ed lavandera, thank you very much. next, i'm going to talk to someone whose own state spent millions to audit their results, only to come to the conclusion that, yes, joe biden did win. arizona's former attorney general is here, grant woods. that's next. nyquil severe gives you powerful relief
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former president trump announcing a new rally in michigan to push for an audit in the state. okay. whatever. the election was almost a year ago, and recount after recount has shown that over and over again, trump lost. this comes just a day after a senate report detailing the nine times trump pressured the justice department to overturn the 2020 election. joining me now, arizona's former attorney general grant woods. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me, don. >> i want to start with this new senate judiciary report that found trump directly asked the justice department to overturn the election nine times. this was a relentless pressure
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campaign. he tried to squeeze mike pence. it almost worked. so where's the outrage from the republican party? >> well, i don't know where it is. they've -- i think they've just all gone in the tank. and when i say "all," it's pretty much every elected republican in washington. as we know, there's a couple in the house, not really anyone in the senate. sometimes romney. they're in the tank for this guy because otherwise how could you just sit back and say nothing? you couldn't do it. but, don, the problem is, you know, i was a lifelong republican, and i was elected twice statewide here. i was john mccain's guy, and we always had the loons in the party. you go to any republican meeting and there was a bunch of complete goofballs saying really weird things, conspiracy theory i ists and stuff like that, but they were the fringe. what's happened with trump is they've taken over. now that they've taken over, the
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country club crowd, the chamber of commerce crowd, they've got to make a decision. do they stand up and do what's right, or do they just kind of wait for this fever to pass and not rock the boat because in the meantime, they get their big tax cuts. they get no regulation on anything. you know, they get what they want. and so far they've decided they're just going to be quiet, and that's pretty bad. it's pretty outrageous. >> the fraudit in your state blew up in trump's face, right, and all the people who were supporting it. but despite all of the failed recounts, he is still pushing for more in michigan, texas. is this all about amplifying the big lie no matter what? it doesn't matter the outcome. it's just keep amplifying this big lie even when they continue to show that biden won the election. >> yeah. i think -- i agree with the judge from texas you had on earlier. that was a great conversation. i think it's part of a -- it's out of a playbook and it started in arizona, but now it's going everywhere.
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the point is they want to undermine people's confidence in our election process so that they can justify the voter suppression bills that they're trying to put through and have put through in many, many swing states across the board here. so why would you do an audit in texas? well, because texas is going to go blue one day soon. i don't know if it will be, you know, next election or the next one, but at some point in time, it's going to go blue. why would you do one in florida? why would you do one in michigan? because those are states that the republicans can lose. they need to suppress the vote. in my view, unless the republican party changes dramatically and gets rid of these trumpers, then they will go extinct over time. the question is when, unless, unless they can rig the process in the short term and put enough authoritarianism into our onetime democracy so that they can prevail.
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they cannot prevail on hate, on divisiveness, on anti-american platforms, and on everything for power, nothing for principle. they will lose, but they could win in the short term if people don't rise up, and that's an open question whether they will or not. >> you know what, grant? at this point, is congress passing a voting rights act the only thing that will protect us, you think, from those -- because you say unless they can rig the system in the short term. >> yeah. >> is that the only thing that can protect? >> yeah, i think so. but here's the good news. there's some good news and bad news. the good news when senator manchin came up with his compromise on voting rights, i will say i was skeptical. you know, what's that going to look like? it's probably going to be some watered down thing. it's not. it's fantastic. he did an amazing job, and it just needs to be passed.
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i don't know how partisanship aside, how americans couldn't be for the things that are in that bill. it's just a lot of common sense. so it's a good bill, and it's a compromise, and i assume that means that senator manchin is going to support his own bill, his own compromise, and use the filibuster to get rid of it. our senator here from arizona is the only one left, then. she seems to be all hung up and bound by this idea that we've got to preserve the filibuster, or if the republicans take over, oh, god, what might happen? well, it's called -- you know, we live in a democracy, and the majority rules. so if you go to the legislature, if you go to a school board, if you go to a city council anywhere in the united states, whoever has the most votes wins. you don't have to get two-thirds or three-fifths or anything else. so i don't know why she's so worried about that. if the democrats lose and the republicans step in -- by the way, do you think they wouldn't abuse the filibuster just like they have in the past? you trust mitch mcconnell? he's going to follow the rules on that? he's not going to.
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so, yeah, i think -- i think that's the key thing, even more than this reconciliation bill. the key thing for the future of our country is sitting right there waiting, and we need to get it passed. we need to bust the filibuster and pass it, and then we can go out and have a fair election. that's all you can ask for. then if the democrats get kicked out and the republicans get put in, so what? that's how a democracy works. we can win this on ideas. we can't win it if they rig the system. >> people love attention, and i forget who the great philosopher was, who says fame is a hell of a drug. >> yeah, it is, and power. >> and power. >> the other thing, don, we don't necessarily attract the best and the brightest anymore because who wants to get involved in this stuff? you get really top notch people you say run for office, they go, are you crazy? so you get these people who have been a lot of nerds, a lot of people who haven't been too successful in other areas of
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life, and all of a sudden everybody is kissing their ass. they don't want to give that up, believe me. they don't have any marketable skills as much as they love the private sector supposedly. the private sector doesn't reward complete b.s. as much as politicians and politics would like. i think between the fame and the power and the fear that they might have to actually go and do something productive in society, they're not going to go down easy, so we got to beat 'em. that's what i say. let's go beat 'em. >> grant, thank you very much. i appreciate you appearing. i hope you'll come back. >> great seeing you again, don. >> you as well. no one's seen him for almost a month. police say there's no physical evidence of brian laundrie in the nature reserve that they've been searching for weeks as they tell cnn that laundrie's parents are behaving, quote, odd. that's next.
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mid-september. why are authorities putting all their eggs in one basket and relying so much on these parents for information? >> good evening, don. well, there's some evidence that he may be in the appalachian trail. there was a witness up there, and the fbi has spoken to that witness. dog the bounty hunter is in pinellas park. but there's some evidence that the authorities have that brian laundrie was camping in that swampland, or else they wouldn't pay so close attention to it. a lot of the evidence seems to be coming from the parents. that's why they brought the father how there to see if they could find where brian laundrie was camping, but no dice. so they're at a dead end right now. that's why they depend on people in the community, civilians, to help provide tips. >> look, this is always a telltale sign when people do this because it's not actually admissible in court, but they're like looking to create some sort of credibility. that's the laundries' attorney
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saying that when they have taken a polygraph test. that's usually that, but they're saying they haven't taken a polygraph test. does that matter because it's not admissible in court? >> it's not admissible in federal court, but in state court, if you fail a polygraph test -- there's not a reason to take that test. it could just hurt them. if they get on the stand and say they did something and the polygraph says they were lying, that could be used against them for purposes of impeachment. you can see why their lawyer says don't take the test. the fbi clearly doesn't trust them. they changed their story on when brian laundrie left to go into that swamp. at first they said it was on a tuesday. now it's on a monday. four days later on friday, they finally reported him missing even though he left the house without his phone and his wallet. it's really unusual behavior, and you would think the parents may know more than they let on. >> where do you see this going,
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dave? >> well, i see them finding brian laundrie eventually. i just don't know when. and then they'll charge him with the more serious crime depending on the cause of death. now, they're waiting on the cause of death from the medical examiner. we know the manner of death. it was homicide. but was it strangulation? was it blunt force trauma? so when they find that and when they goat the toxicology reports which should come in the next couple weeks, then they can start filing charges against brian laundrie. but prosecutors don't want to rush it because when they start filing those charges, they've got 180 days to actually try the case. so police have an interest in finding him and arresting him whereas propers want to slow it down. in the meantime, the laundrie parents are certainly not going to win any people's choice awards. they're really upsetting the public by their silence. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you appearing. >> thanks, don. so people are getting so heated that an expert on race and inclusion had to get security before making a
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(music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ how schools teach america's children about race becoming an increasingly divisive issue in many school districts all across the country. many white parents expressing concerns about critical race theory, which educators say is not even taught in america's
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grade schools. while many black parents say race is an important issue that needs to be discussed. here's cnn's evan mcmorris-santoro. >> she heard from several kids that it was actually a petition to restart slavery. >> reporter: julie was chatting with her daughter, a student at park hill south high school in the suburbs of kansas city. the conversation was alarming. >> she was very upset about it. my daughter is ethiopian. she has herself encountered, you know, racist things happening to her, and so the more she talked about this, the more upset she got. and i said, well, let me go find out more information and see what i can find out. >> reporter: what she found is the uncomfortable reality in schools across the country. there are two diametrically opposed conversations about race going on at the same time. in one, some white parents are telling school leaders that lessons about race make white students feel bad. >> another subject i would like to address is critical race
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theory. i fear this would cause more division and racism. >> reporter: the other conversation is about the racism that is actually happening in schools. in park hill, the superintendent released a video message seven days after julie started asking questions. >> we can react, or we can respond. we are choosing to respond. >> reporter: part of that response is a search for an expert adviser on race and inclusion. someone like nicole price, who has been hired in schools throughout missouri and kansas. she says she generally gets a phone call after something racist happens, and white school leaders are often in a state of shock. >> am i surprised? that's the question i get the most. >> what do you say? >> well, i'm not surprised. i'm disappointed but never surprised because here's the thing. when people are not educated in the head and the heart, then they'll do things that will surprise some people. but because i spend my life trying to make sure that education is at the forefront
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because that's how we know that we can help to fix some of this, i know that we had to have some regression. >> reporter: the job can be a challenge in the current environment, price says. after one missouri school district hired her to lead a session, the school board got threats. >> i had a driver and asked for extra security, of which they obliged because they had -- i mean they were the ones getting the threats. they weren't coming to me directly. >> you felt you needed some security to be safe? >> i was actually going to the school to give a keynote presentation. the title was radical empathy. >> you had to get security to give a speech about empathy? >> yes. >> reporter: this school district isn't the only one facing these issues. in iowa this summer, the governor signed a law strictly dictating what teachers can tell students about race and america. >> we've banned critical race theory and any curriculum or any training that teaches that the united states or iowa is fundamentally racist or sexist.
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>> reporter: the iowa law is in effect for the first time this year, and it's not the only one of its kind. tennessee also has a new law banning lessons that might make students feel, quote, discomfort because of their race. in suburban nashville, a sheriff's department is currently investigating this photo as a hate crime. it shows a white football player in what authorities believe is a photoshopped klan hood. the caption, threatened a black player on a rival team. >> i think the incidences have gone up, and i say that because of what i hear from my kids, that the environment is a little bit more tense in our schools. there's more hatred out there over the past couple of years. >> reporter: kansas is also considering similar legislation. state senator cindy hole sher, a democrat, says fear of critical race theory is getting in the way of schools dealing with racist incidents, like this one at a nearby high school. this invitation to the homecoming dance was posted online, causing outrage. the school condemned the image
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in an email. three weeks before that, a dad condemned efforts to -- >> i'm here to state my opposition being instructed, indoctrinated or hinted at in the school district. every piece of this propaganda will reveal itself. >> i've been getting emails over the past couple months from individuals saying things like, i'm really worried that our kids are being indoctrinated and that our kids are being taught to hate their white skin. well, one, we don't have crt in our schools. second, that's not at all what's happening as far as any type of teaching about teaching children to -- to not like their white skin. that's just not happening. >> reporter: julie stutterheim says these white parents need to wake up to the reality of what's really happening in school. >> i watched my white daughter, my older daughter, grow up and not experience the things that my younger daughter has to
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experience. so that's been really tough to see. >> reporter: you know, don, there are a lot of other examples of racist incidents in school this year i could have included in this piece but we couldn't because of time. i've been doing a lot of stories about this pitched battle about race and education in school systems, and everywhere i go, i find these two conversations. some white parents saying racism is over. we shouldn't teach about it anymore. we really shouldn't include it in education at all. and on the other side, these parents and families saying they're facing racist incidents in classrooms every day. the politics of this moment, this conversation about race, is really running right through the american classroom, don. >> evan, thank you. we'll be right back. i'm still drawn to what's next.
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>> mr. cheng, this is where your car was parked here? >> yes, my car was burned. you can see black. >> yeah. >> you can see burn on the street too. black, yeah? and dirty. see? >> so when you come out of your house and you see this -- >> i think what happened my car? who do my car? and fire department coming but too late. >> it makes you sad? >> yeah, i sad right now. >> so the only cars that burned that night was your car and another asian man's car? >> yes. >> do you think it may have to do with the fact that you are asian? >> i don't know. 100% who did burn the car. i don't know. >> oh, boy. lisa is here, the host of "this is life." hi, lisa ling. >> hi, don. hi. >> really tough stuff there. over the past year or so, the
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anti-asian hate has really been bothersome to all of us. so let's talk about it. delving into the past is a bit of a departure for you. tell us more about this approach and what you hope to reveal to the viewers this season. >> well, don, this is our eighth season of "this is life" and we're trying something a little different. our show has generally been one that has been very immersive and emotional experiential but we couldn't express those things during covid. so we decided to take a deep dive into moments in american history that didn't make it into history books because i've always believed that we can't really know where we're going and how to fix things and to improve things if we don't know where we've been. and so our first episode is about this long history of anti-asian sentiment and discrimination and scapegoating, and we look into the story of a man named vincent chin. he was out celebrating his bachelor party at a bar and two
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out of work autoworkers accused him of being japanese and taking their jobs. and this was a time in detroit when the automobile industry was experiencing this economic downturn. oil prices were skyrocketing, and people were blaming japan for making these fuel-efficient cars. and so many people had lost their jobs in detroit. so if you looked like you could be japanese in detroit, you could become a target. and that's exactly what happened to this chinese-american man, vincent chin. he got into an altercation in the bar. the two men followed him out, chased him down, beat him to death with a baseball bat, and they didn't serve a single day in jail or prison. they paid about a $3,000 fine and spent a couple of months on probation. but as we were just saying, when you look at what is happening today, what's been happening over the last year and a half, the scapegoating of asians has -- it goes back more than a century. and, again, until we address it and acknowledge this aspect of american history really, i think
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it will be really difficult to move forward. >> yeah. well, listen, again, it's very important. i'm so grateful that you're doing this. and the best way for people to learn about it, i think, is to tune in, lisa. thank you. i really appreciate you joining us. best of luck. i'll see you soon. thank you very much. as i said, make sure you tune in. all new season of "this is life" with lisa ling. it premieres sunday night, 10:00 p.m., only here on cnn. so this week's cnn hero is a survivor of the boston marathon bombing. eight years ago, heather abbott was hit by one of the blasts near the finish line. her life was forever changed by injuries she suffered, yet she found a way to turn that tragedy into triumph. and on monday, she will be back by the finish line, on the 125th boston marathon, cheering on runners and continuing to live life to the very fullest. >> i heard the first explosion just ahead in front of me. the next thing i knew, a second explosion occurred just to my right, and that was the last thing i knew before i landed in
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the restaurant on the ground. i was in the hospital for several days while doctors were deciding whether or not to amputate. it was hard to come to terms with the fact that i am an amputee at first and had my injury not happened in such a public way, where there was so much assistance available, i never would have been able to afford multiple prostheses. so i decided to just do what i could to help people get those devices that simply couldn't get them because they were out of reach. it has been life-changing for them, and a lot of them remind me of that. it feels very rewarding to be able to do that. >> so to see heather's full story and how she is helping amputees get custom prospective
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a warm welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm paula newton. ahead, president biden making a move that could expose donald trump's actions during the january 6 insurrection. after the latest u.s. jobs report, biden says the u.s. risks losing its edge and xi jinping vowing to reunify taiwan with mainlan

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