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trump seems to be okay with is melania trump version, nice white people coming from white people, and brown people coming from brown countries are coming here to hurt you. that is rhetoric as old as this country. this is not a new playbook. it is very effective. he has seen how effective it has been, and he's pulling out the old trump card. >> and this haitians have aids stigma is not new for this country. in the early 90s during the haitian refugee country, then attorney general william barr serving under george h.w. bush created this detention program as it is at guantanamo bay where thousands of haitians were detained there, kept there for months, more than a year, because they were hiv positive, so this country, not just former president trump has a history of this type of activity. for a more in-depth discussion, listen to the latest episode of
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ma ra's podcast. always good to have you on the show. this is cnn breaking news. top of the hour, i'm victor blackwell, alisyn is off. we're following a lot of breaking news on the investigation into the january 6th capitol riots, and the battle over testimony and documents. a few minutes ago, president biden refused to assert privilege over trump era documents. these are the ones sought by the house select committee looking into the insurrection that paves the way for the national archives to share documents with the house probe. also today, a lawyer for trump associate steve bannon informed the select committee that he will not cooperate with the subpoena. a short time ago, the committee responded, threatening a criminal referral for any witness who continues to obstruct. trump's legal team set off this battle earlier this week, telling bannon and three others, three of the key allies that they should not comply with the
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subpoenas. cnn's kaitlan collins is live at the white house, and cnn's sara murray is in washington as well. k tell us first about the decision by the biden administration not to assert executive privilege here. >> yeah, they say this is an extraordinary set of circumstances that has led them to make this decision c. they have sent this letter saying they are not going to exert executive privilege over these documents. one thing we should be clear here, they are saying this is about the specific request of documents, the white house and the national archives has received from the xcommittee, which has been of course a massive question at the heart of all of this given to essentially what it was that former president trump knew and was doing and was saying on that day. but now press secretary jen psaki confirming that president biden has made this decision. >> the president has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not warranted for
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the first set of documents from the trump white house that have been provided to us by the national archives. we will evaluate questions of privilege on a case by case basis but the president has also been clear that he believes it to be of the utmost importance of congress and the american people to have a complete understanding of the events of that day to prevent them from happening again. >> so making clear again that this is on a case by case basis. we should note this initial set is a request of documents from the january 6th committee is pretty big, and it talks about how they want things from calendars, scheduled, logs of movements, by former president trump on that day. they want communications that happened within the white house related to that rally, of course, that happened before the riots on capitol hill. the one that happened over here on the national mall, and when you look at in request, they say they want documents and communications within the white house on january 6th related to hope hicks, sarah matthews who was an assistant press aide, mark meadows, of course the
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chief of staff, dan scavino, the president's top aide. pat cipollone, the white house counsel, mark short, former vice president pence's chief of staff, several of the highest of highest officials in the white house on that day, that is what these documents relate to, and now the white house is saying they are not going to exert executive privilege over those documents. >> over to you on the subpoenas, and the letter from the committee, their response. walk us through what we're learning through that letter, and what the chair and vice chair are saying. >> yesterday was the deadline for a handful of these trump loyalists to hand over documents, folks including mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon, and it became very clear that steve bannon was not planning to comply either with a request for documents or testimony, here's a portion of the lawyer that his attorney sent yesterday. it says the kexecutive privilegs belong with president trump, we
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must honor his executive privilege. steve bannon, though he wasn't working at the white house in the january 6th insurrection is still trying to hide behind the privilege claim. they may not hold up when tested in court, the committee said they've had some engagement with cash patel, some engagement with mark meadows, obviously getting stone walled by steve bannon, we will not allow a witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to roll out the clock, and will swiftly advance a criminal contempt of congress referral. the one thing we should note is subpoena fights do take time. it's unclear how much time they could take. it's not like this is a committee that has years and years to let these fights languish. it will be interesting to see how this proceeds. >> sara murray. kaitlan collins, thank you both. let's discuss with cnn political ana analyst gloria borger, and cnn
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analyst. specifically for the questions and the tdocuments and records requested thus far, that's not a blanket response. at some point it's possible that they could. >> of course, and that's the way privilege works. you know, it would never apply to a whole class of documents or every word that came out of someone's mouth. what lawyers for the parties, you know, the former president and the current president would do is go through each document, all of the materials, and identify what would be subject to privilege. if they were asserting it, it wouldn't be the case that the biden administration would say, you know, every single word that came out of donald trump's mouth the entire time he was president is subject to disclosure. what they have done here is for this tranche of documents, those are not going to be protected by executive privilege. and they won't assert any. >> to you gloria, part of the statement from the committee, bennie thompson, liz cheney vice chair, they write that we will
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not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock. that certainly is what the play book has been for the former president and his allies up to this point. the question is will the doj, and i'll put this to elliot afterward, then follow up with this criminal referral. >> it's funny because elliot and i were just talking about that before we came on the air, and he's the lawyer, so i will defer to him. but it seems to me, as you're pointing out, time is of the essence. if you're the committee, you don't want to let witnesses run out the clock. you could have a criminal contempt referral to the department of justice. that can take an awfully long time or you could go the civil contempt route, and give it to a judge or you could try and do both and see which works faster. you know, there's no guarantee that if they sent this over to the justice department that the new attorney general would say, sure, go right ahead. there really isn't.
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i don't know what they're going to decide. i think they have options, and i'll let elliot tell the rest of that story. >> about that, i mean, what is the standard, then, for if they were to get that referral to make the case that it reaches a crime. >> again, there's two very different things. one, a criminal referral, you're just seeking to punish a person for not complying with the investigation, and frankly, even if you punish them, you don't get the testimony, you're basically slapping them on the wrist with a misdemeanor putting them in jail, of course, but you're not getting closer to getting the testimony. you could sue in civil court to enforce the subpoena, and in all likelihood, i would think what congress could do is just do both at the same time. meanwhile, they're also still conducting their investigation which is moving at a breakneck pace, you know, next week they've got more documents coming in and presumably more testimony, so, you know, they have a bunch of tools, and they issue that statement, they hedged a little bit about
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whether they would definitely do it. but they can easily go down the road of both simultaneously, and they have been tested in the courts before. there's a basis for it. yeah. >> you know, remember, this is a congress that has been -- this has been a problem for years with the trump administration, now the with people who are part of the trump administration, and so they have been thinking about this for a long time, and they are clearly understand what's going on theory, and want to get this done. they have a clock. the clock is you have the midterm elections coming up, obviously. they want to get to the bottom of this. i don't know whether they're interested in criminal referrals for people. i think what they're interested in is finding out the truth about who knew what when, particularly the president of the united states, on january 5th, on january 6th, and i think that's their goal, and the fastest way they can get there is probably what they're going to do. because remember, don mcghan, the former white house counsel
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took an awfully long time to get him to testify, so they don't want to go through that again. they have been thinking about this. >> yeah, of course the point of all of this, as you point out, gloria, although we're talking about the legal avenues and opportunities and avenues for the attorney general is who was involved with the planning of the january 6th protest that turned into an insurrection, who is responsible. elliot, let me come back to you on the ag. we've now got this report from the senate judiciary committee that shows there was this pressure on the department of justice to overturn the election. what can, on that specifically, attorney general garland do if the select committee doesn't get something done? >> right. well, what's more important, in that report, they say that it's not just attorney general garland. it's also congress. there's a few things that can happen now. number one, congress can tighten the rules on the type of communications that can happen within the white house, and between the white house and the
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justice department. justice department can also clarify its rules with respect to communications in the lead up to an election. looks, it's egregious conduct when we talk about a white house communicating with the justice department on any occasion, let alone nine times in the run up to or immediately after an election. so they have things they can do. i'm quite frankly, quite thrilled that congress recommended things and steps to be taken rather than simply saying oh, this is so egregious and we hope it never happens again. they floated the prospect of bar sanctions against jeffrey clark which was itself significant, so it's very important when congress actually does something or recommends something, rather than just complains, and they have done that in just this report, which is only interim. there's another one after this that's going to lay out even more of the misconduct, i think. >> we saw the rebuttal from the republicans out of senator grassley's office says that everything is fine here. he acted consistently with the
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role of his office. fw gloria, one more to you. let me ask you this, he's been impeached twice and we know that he potentially will run in 2024. if nothing happens after this, what do future elections in this country look like? >> we don't know the answer to that. we know that donald trump and his supporters are trying to pick and choose people who agree with him, that the election was rigged. and we all know that that's a big lie and that the election was not rigged. i don't think we can answer that question at this point, which is why the select committee is so important. the select committee has to let the american public know exactly what occurred, exactly what the president of the united states did calling more than 30 elected state and local officials, pressuring the justice department, trying to undo the election. and have a coup.
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and i think that the american people, then, would have to go to the polls, if he were to run again, and i think maybe it would be litigated at the polls rather than in court. >> fwgloria borger, elliot williams, thank you. the vote on raising the debt ceiling led to lots of intraparty feuding, both democrats and republicans, they wound up lashing out at each other at the leadership and the fight is not over. also, the september jobs report is in. we'll tell you how the administration is responding to really disappointing numbers. we've got more on that ahead.
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it may not be a setback, tgs n it's not a step forward as the u.s. recovers from the coronavirus pandemic. not many jobs return, 194,000 jobs in september falling far short of expectations. in march, the second straight month of discouraging job news, the unemployment rate fell to 4.8%. speaking this afternoon, president biden said the numbers show that congress should push forward with his build back better agenda. >> these bills are about competitiveness versus complacency. competitiveness versus complacency. opportunity versus decay. they're about leading the world
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or whether we're going to let the world pass us by. >> with us now, katherine rampell, a cnn economics and political commentator, and opinion columnist for the "washington post." welcome back. we were in the same seats a month ago talking about the disappointing august nurmbers, talking about the influence of delta. what happened now, basically the same thing? >> there had been optimistic hopes that in september, we would finally see a little bit of a hiring boom because unemployment benefits or the federal expansion of unemployment benefits had expired. schools were reopening, so maybe that meant more parents got their child care problems pushed to the side, and instead of course the delta variant had other plans. >> so i said at the top, it's not exactly a setback, it's just not as big of a step forward as people had hoped for . there is some good news here. >> there is some good news, yes,
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it was job growth. it wasn't job less. the reasons the unemployment rate declined are mixed, partly because of people dropped out of the labor force, partly because people got jobs. i think the most positive way to read this report is if it is the delta variant that was really causing the slow down in hiring it looks like this wave may have peaked. this wave of the pandemic, i should say, it may have peaked. hospitalizations seem to be slowing down. maybe even declining in some places. deaths, a lagging indicator may say the same thing, and if that is the case, then maybe next month will be a little bit better. now, we still have a lot of head winds in this economy, not just the pandemic itself, per se, but also the fact that there are child care shortages, workers face other obstacles for getting back to work. health care workers are burnt out. part of the reason the numbers were bad, health care hiring went down. some may have to do with the fact that hospitals aren't doing as many elective surgeries.
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that may also have to do with the fact that workers are burnt out and quitting. so, you know, the pandemic alone or rather the declining hospitalizations alone will not get us where we need to be, but it will help. >> so we've talked before about how the pandemic economy has hit women harder than it has men, and we've seen that in this report. women lost 26,000 jobs in september. men actually gained jobs. what's behind that? >> well, i think it is partly this child care issue, right, as i said, schools have reopened, and that's good. that should be good for women's employment in particular, because women are more likely to be the family's primary care givers, but you have schools shutting down periodically because there's an outbreak or isolated kids get imquarantined. that's bad for women, and the fields that women are more likely to work in have also struggled, so, for example, women are more likely to work in certain service sector areas,
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retail, leisure and hospitality, things like that, and while leisure and hospitality did gain jobs in the past month, it was a sharp slow down from previous months. all of those things combined i think suggest, again, things are going to be difficult for workers who are eager to go back to work. some are not, of course. people are burnt out, et cetera, but even those who do want to go back to work face all of these other obstacles in their way. thank you. the drama on capitol hill, it did not end with that vote to temporarily put off the debt limit crisis until early december. let's bring in cnn chief congressional correspondent, manu raju, we have a lot to talk about with the democrats and the republicans. let's start with the democrats. senate majority leader chuck schumer, that speech after the vote and the reaction from senator joe manchin. let's first look at the moment. >> mitch mcconnell and senate
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republicans insisted they wanted a solution to the debt ceiling but said democrats must raise it alone by going through a drawn out, convoluted and risky reconciliation process. that was simply unacceptable to my caucus, and yesterday, senate republicans finally realized that their obstruction was not going to work. >> so reportedly senator manchin told leader schumer that his speech was effing stupid. first, what was the point of that really partisan speech at that moment for leader schumer, and what do you make of this exchange between the two? >> reporter: well manchin, i asked him about that because i had heard something similar out of the vote that he swore at schumer. he denied making that comment to the senate majority leader but he did say at the time the majority leader's comments were inappropriate, and he said that is only going to inflame
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tensions at such a precarious time in the senate. this is not unusual for chuck schumer to lay into republicans. they have been battling over the debt ceiling for months, and then ultimately they were able to get a deal, just a punt for two months, extending the debt ceiling until early december, and only after 11 republicans agreed to break a republican led filibuster after an intensive effort by the republican leaders to get enough to do just that, and schumer made clear where he stands. what's different this time is that this was a full senate. typically when the senate majority leader was making his speech in the morning, tit's an empty senate. at that moment, all hundred senators, who were in attendance, 98 senators who were there, sitting there listening to chuck schumer give that speech and directed very pointedly at the republicans and that's why when i talked to a number of them afterwards, they called it classless, according to mike rounds, one of the 11 to vote for it, as well as john thune, the number two senate
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republicans, and warned he would not cooperate in the future, we'll see if that happens. nevertheless, didn't go over well particularly with republicans. >> staying with senator man chin, you've got new reporting about the difficulty of getting senator manchin, even into the same room with chairman of the budget committee, senator sanders, tell us about that. >> reporter: this came up in a conference call earlier this week where house progressives were talking to president biden about the way forward. why don't we get the two different leaders of the factions, manchin, the leader of the moderates, bernie sanders, the leader of the progressives, get them in the same room, try to come up with a deal on the larger democratic agenda because ultimately if they sign off, probably all of the different quarters of the democratic caucus will sign off as well. biden responded i'm told said that would be like committing quote homicide saying i have been in politics for a long time. perhaps that's not the best way to go. that was a bit of a joke, but it also underscored the dynamics on the hill.
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those two men are at sharp odds over some of the major issues in the larger package, not just on the policy but also on the price tag, and the democratic leaders are trying to get a deal by the end of this month. can they do that? hard to see that at the moment, particularly given howdy v divet of views, and biden as he's having conversations with his own analysts on the hill. can they get to an agreement? uncertain at this point. >> let's go to republicans now, some senators' disappointment in mitch mcconnell and making this deal to avoid this debt ceiling crisis for just a few weeks. here they are. >> yes. >> you do? why? >> we had a plan, and we threw it over. >> reporter: do you know why he threw it over?
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>> changing the rules, drive us every time. >> reporter: i thinks democrat threats to destroy the filibuster caused him to give in. i think that was a serious mistake. >> reporter: were you surprised? >> yes. >> we don't hear republican senators criticize leader mcconnell publicly often. the implications of this not just for his grip on the leadership but also we get to december, and this has to be faced again. >> reporter: that's really the challenge here. how do they deal with this again. mitch mcconnell prized unity, unity for mitch mcconnell, trying to keep republicans united but when dealing with something that has to be done, such as a debt ceiling increase and no path forward, he was ultimately forced to suggest a deal, this two-month increase in the debt limit, even after months of saying republicans absolutely would not supply any votes to do just that. he said democrats need to use
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their own process to move toward through the budget process to raise the debt ceiling. that's something democrats said they would not do. they need mcconnell to take this step. he suggested mcconnell told his conference repeatedly, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema would break the filibuster rules, that require 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. that was the reason for doing that. he wanted to preserve the filibuster on the issue of the debt limit. that did not go over particularly well with a lot of senators. come december, how does this get done, how do they extend government funding also expires in december. congress kicking the can down the road, the more crises ahead. >> manu raju on capitol hill, thank you, manu. florida's board of education punished school districts that defied governor desantis. i'll speak to two of the superintendents at the center of the fight over mask mandates. at aspen dental, we help you find your happy place like milkshake mustaches high fives and high dives.
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the florida board of education thursday voted to sanction eight school district for enacting mask mandates without giving parents the ability to opt out. the board claims the school districts in these counties are violating a florida department of health emergency rule. now, each district could be penalized in two ways, one,
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having funds withheld in an amount that equals 1/12 of all school board member salaries or two, withholding any federal grant funds that are meant to make up for the lack of state funding. six other districts filed a petition against the department of health challenging the rule that blocks mask mandates. i'm joined by two of those petitioners, alberto carvalo, superintendent of miami-dade schools, and welcome to you both. let me start with you superintendent carvallo. we know masks work, the science is clear there. the question is the authority of the state to force you to allow an opt out. what's your case? >> well, i think the science is very compelling. i think we are following both law, science and reason. we have made a decision, approve bid our school board that mandatory masks with the
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appropriate medical accommodations are the right actions to take. and look, we have evidence that it is working. the positivity rate in our schools is extremely low. number of students and teachers quarantined is very low, and conditions continue to improve. putting us in a position within a couple of weeks to reconsider the data, consult with our medical experts, and possibly relax the protocols that are in place right now. there's plenty of science, verified science and studies that show that wearing masks indoors is good public health policy. >> superintendent cart wright, the department of health cites its authority to adopt rules governing in the control of preventable, communicable diseases. do you believe that rule does not apply here, that they don't have that authority over your district. >> exactly, and it really seems contrary, the rule that's been made as an emergency rule, number one, we're trying to
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figure out under what authority they are trying to enact this as an emergency rule. in addition to that, we're also trying to figure out how is it that if you're saying that math, if the child wears a mask or not is a mitigating factor, we're confused by that because the fact that the cdc, the american academy of pediatrics and so many other doctors, professionals are telling us that masks are a mitigating factor. so here we have the health department who's now saying, you know, parents make that decision as to whether or not they want to implement a mitigating factor. in essence, removing that ability for schools to be able to help control for the spread of covid-19. it just seems counter intuitive. >> superintendent carvallo, the state is now coming forth, your budget for your money, and having been a local reporter for many years, i know that school
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district budgets are always too tight. what's the impact of their coming for the funds there in your district. >> well, certainly there are two levels of impact. one is a symbolic impact, which is individual penalties assigned to duty, that represent thousands in our community. and the symbolism cannot be ignored. secondly is the financial impact. we're talking for miami-dade should these sanctions being applied for an entire year, we're talking about close to a million dollars, which unfortunately comes with another imposition, which would prevent the federal government from intervening with financial relief for impacted districts. >> superintendent cartwright, what is the threshold for lifting mask mandates there in broward county? >> at this point in time, we're taking a look at thresholds that have been established by the
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county here in broward. and we're getting closer to that threshold, but we're just not there just yet. so i believe it's right around the 67% that we've met, as far as the vaccination is concerned. but also the amount of spread we're looking for, i believe, is closer to 5% as far as our spread is concerned. >> one other thing for you, superintendent carvallo, starting monday, students at your district who come in contact with someone who's tested positive for covid-19 and they're asymptomatic, they only have to quarantine for five days. it has been ten days now. the state wants kids to come back if their parents say they can on the very next day. why the change there in y miami-dade. >> we continue to consult with medical experts and health officials. they are not my recommendations, they're not our school board decisions. they are recommendations approved and advocated by the
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best of the best as far as medical advice and public health advice, and we're looking at five specific criteria. number one, the number of hospitalizations in our county, specific to covid-19, the percentage of beds in hospitals that are being utilized by covid-19 patients, the pos positivity rate in our community and the most critical of all factors, which is number of infected individuals per 100,000 residents. out of the five criteria, we're meeting four of them, which means in a couple of weeks, we probably will meet all of the criteria. that's why we adjusted downward, the requirements for quarantine. and victor, i have to tell you that this latest decision by the state is quite frankly a solution looking for a problem because the solution is around the corner, if we follow science, reason, and the advice of health officials. >> superintendent alberto carvallo, and vicky cartwright,
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go with an open heart, and you will find inspiration anew. viking. exploring the world in comfort. this sunday is the season premiere of "this is life" with lisa ling. lisa takes a deep dive into some of the most challenging issues that have really defined the tumultuous past year. the first episode looks at the recent rise in anti-asian hate crimes around the country and how it's rooted in a long line of discrimination. >> the u.s. government responded
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to fears with racist legislation, the chinese exclusion act and for the first time in american history, the doors closed on a population because of where they were from. chinese immigrants who were already in the u.s. became the target of vicious attacks. >> people show up on the chinese settlement on mass, with pitch forks and guns. they force people out into the dead of night. and literally thousands of folks are massacred because of this violence. >> why don't we ever hear about this in american history books? >> it's not something that is part of this great mythology of selling the frontier. it's not something that makes us look good. but we've created this powerful prosperous country on the backs of a lot of people.
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>> and lisa ling, the host of "this is life" is with me now in studio. >> yes. >> good to see you. >> sorry if i'm a little -- this is the closest i have been to someone. >> it's all new. i get it. no offense taken. let's start here with delving into history this season, something new for the series. >> we are doing something different. because of covid we had to pivot. we decided to explore moments in american history that didn't make it into our history books that still impact us today. >> yeah, you're focusing in this first episode on the anti-asian violence that we've seen, but specifically the story of a man named vincent chen who was murdered in detroit in the '80s, and talk about the relevance of his story to what we're seeing today. >> well, we know that detroit was the automobile capital of the world for decades, but in the early '80s, there was an economic downturn there, rising
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oil prices resulted in so many auto workers getting laid off, and japan was producing some fuel efficient cars, so a lot of hatred was directed and blamed to japanese automobile manufacturers. and at that time, anyone who looked like they could be japanese was targeted for assault, and so vincent chin, who was a chinese american man was out at a bar celebrating his bachelor party and two out of work auto workers got into an alte altercation with him. when vincent chin left, they followed him and beat him to death with a baseball bat. and those two men never served a single day in jail or prison. they were fined about $3,000, and served several months on probation. >> so many of these stories, i have never heard that story. so many people i'm sure who are watching have never heard that and you're focusing on those stories that don't make the history books but are so important for us to know. >> that's right. i mean, asian american history
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wasn't mentioned in my history books at all. and when that happens, when you done have a frame of reference for someone's inclusion, it becomes so easy to overlook or discriminate against an entire population. and when you look at what's been happening in the last year and a half, as soon as covid got rooted, asians were once again scapegoated and blamed for bringing this virus to america and to the rest of the world, and in some ways it's no different from what happened during the '80s, and there's been this long history of scapegoating asians that goes back more than a century, and we explore that in the episode, as you saw in the clip. >> looking forward to that. what else do you have this season? >> the following week we have an episode about the roots of conspiracy theories, which are a hot topic right now. we explore a riot in chicago that happened over a century ago, but in some ways it explains the violence that we are experiencing and seeing happen in chicago today. >> looking forward to it.
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lisa ling, good to see you in person. >> thanks for having me. >> catch the season premiere of "this is life" with lisa ling. a key trump ally defies a subpoena from the house select committee but the committee is not backing down threatening criminal contempt. we'll have more on that ahead. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark.
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