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environmental quality who is leading on our conservation and environmental justice efforts. brenda? [ applause ] >> thank you, gina. it is so great to see all of you in person. i can't tell you how exciting it is to be in person on this day and this event. i want to welcome you to the white house. and i also want to thank you. each and every one of you. from tribal leaders to business leaders to conservation leaders, to hunters, anglers, climbers, scientists, educators and millions and millions of american people. thank you for speaking up and for standing up and for fighting to keep a simple but sacred promise. that in america, when we protect a place, as a national monument, it is to be protected for all time, for all people.
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[ applause ] let us reflect on the meaning of this moment. the single largest elimination of protections of lands and waters in u.s. histories with met by the single largest mobilization for conservation in u.s. history. millions and millions of americans rallied to help tribes defend their -- to restore grants and to safeguard the atlantic ocean's first marine national monument. this has galvanized a new and powerful vision for conservation in america. a vision in which we act with urgency and ambition to conserve and restore the lands, waters and wildlife we love. and that our disappearing so quickly.
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a vision in which we -- in which the stewardship traditions and conservation priorities of tribal nations and are celebrated and supported in both law and policy. a vision in which every child in america, no matter where they live, has a chance to experience nature's wonders. and the vision in which we harness the power of our forest and farms and ocean and coast to keep our climate liveable and communities thriving. this is the vision that president biden, with your help, is pursuing. and let me tell you, there is no one better to stand beside as we drive this work forward than our extraordinary secretary of the interior. ladies and gentlemen, my friend and partner in so many things, secretary deb holland.
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[ applause ] >> thank you. good afternoon, everyone. before i tart i just have to say that i have the best team at doi and i'm so grateful for all of you, so thank you, thank you. and thank you, brenda. thank you for your introduction. we are here today on the ancestral homelands of the anacostia and piscataway people, bending the mark of the oral universe toward justice. thank you mr. president for the proaction you are taking today to permanently protect the homelands of our ancestors. our songs, our languages, and our cultures are strong and many people from many indians tribes have spoken in unison to protect the same place.
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bears is a living landscape. when i've been there i felt the warmth and joy of ancestors who have cared for this special place since time in memorial. it is a place where you could stand in the doorway of a home where a family that lived thousands of years ago left behind a legacy of love and conservation for a place that sustained them for countless generations. stories of existence, celebration, survival and reverence are etched into the sandstone canyon walls and sacred sites are dotted across and in the form of abe shent pots and evident of lives well lived are as inseparable from bears ears as the air we breathe at this moment. today children learn and sustain
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from their parents and elders, the longs traditions and ceremonies that have been passed down from generation to generation at bears ears. this is a place that must be protected in perpetuity for every american and every child of the world. [ applause ] today's announcement, it is not just about national monuments. it is about this administration centering the voices of indigenous people and affirming the shared stewardship of this landscape with tribal nations. the president's actions today writes a new chapter that embraced indigenous knowledge and ensured tribal leadership has a seat at table and demonstrates that by working together we could build a brighter future for all of us.
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we have much more good work ahead. together we will tell a more complete story of america. together we will conserve and protect our lands and ocean for people, for wildlife, for the climate, together we will strengthen our economy with healthy resilient natural systems. thank you, mr. president. thank you for strengthening the nation to nation relationship, thank you on behalf of all americans who love and value our cultural heritage. thank you on behalf of the local communities whose economies are benefitting from healthy eco-systems on our public lands, national monuments and parks. i am so grateful and very proud to serve on your team. and now, it is my distinct honor to introduce you, ladies and
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gentlemen, the president of the united states of america. [ applause ] >> good afternoon. please, all be seated, please. madam secretary, you've doon an incredible job in a short amount of time. and i told you when i asked you to be secretary of interior that i understood i was politically raised by danny orway indian nations. indian nations and i want to thank the leaders that are here today for your support, your help getting this done. and it is really, really important. and i want to thank brenda, council of economic quality and environmental quality and gina
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mccovey, if you need any translation, talk to me after. gina, you're the best. you're the best. and i want you to know although he didn't speak today, want to thank my buddy tom vilsack because he's about preservation. and senator cantwell, thank you for your hard consistent unrelenting work on these issues. and i also want to thank michael bennet the same way. he's been in this from the moment he got elected has been pushing hard. and rubin, i want to thank you, congressman gallego for the work you've done and continue to do. i really mean it. this may be the easiest thing i've ever done so far as president. i mean it. i mean it. i have to tell you a quick story. when i was running for office
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and i'm embarrassed i can't remember exactly which state i was in, but a gentleman and i think it was his wife and a little girl said could i talk to you. and she had this -- i couldn't understand what she had in her hand, it looks like a teddy bear. and she said can i talk to you, mr. -- she wasn't sure what to call me. i wasn't elected yet, mr. president or mr. vice president, sure. what is the matter honey. she said i want to give you something. want to give you some bears ears. and i looked at her and she gave me these little set of bears ears. she said you have to promise me, you have to promise me you'll protect the bears ears and i'm thinking what the heck is -- i mean at the time, i knew bears ears but i didn't quite get it. her dad said, a nationali park. and she said and promise.
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you promise and i promised and it is the easiest promise that i've made in a long time. i'm grateful to the tribal nation leaders and both those who are here with us today and those who are unable to join us. today i'm proud to announce the protection of the expansion of three of the most treasured national monuments, our most treasured. based on powers granted to the president under the antiquities act, more than a century ago by teddy roosevelt, first national monument in utah, this is the first national monument in the country to be established at the request of a federally recognized tribe. and a place of healing, as spoken by the secretary, a place of reverence, a sacred homeland to hundreds offerations. the last administration reduced the size by 85%, meaning more than one million acres of cherished landscape.
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today we are surely signing a pr proclamation to fully restore the boundary of bears ears. and second i'm restoring utah's grand staircases cal ante national monument, a place of extraordinary geology and national diversity, 25 years ago this month. over the last quarter century this land has produced a significant scientific discovery, more than any other national monument, everything from fossils to indigenous artifacts. and once again the last administration cut the size of the monument nearly in half. stripping away more than 800,000 protected acres. today i'm signing a proclamation to restore it to its full glory. third off the coast of new england, i'm restoring protections of the northeast canyons and sea mounts, marine
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national monument. waters teaming with life with underwater canyons as deeps as part of the grand canyon and under water mountains as tall as the appalachians. there is nothing like it in the world. because it is unique b biodiversity and scientists believe this is a key to understanding life under the sea. president obama established it as a national monument years ago recognizing its irreplaceable value. the proclamation will restore protections established by president obama when this monument was first created. excuse me. the protection of public lands must become, must not become, i should say, a pendulum that swings back and forth depending on who is in public office. it is not a partisan issue. and i want to thank the members of congress who have come together to support this important conservation work. and by the way, i might add, as
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a matter of courtesy, i spoke with both the senators from utah, they were -- they didn't agree with what i was doing but they were gracious and polite about it and i appreciate that as well. the truth is, national monuments and parks are part of the identity as a people. there are more than natural wonders. they're the birth right we pass from generation to generation. a birthright of every american. and preserving them is the fulfillment of a promise to our children and all of those who will come to leave this world a little better than we found it. but today, our children are three times more likely to see climate disasters up root and unsettle their lives in their grandparents generation. we have to come together and understand why this work is so critical. we protect and care for a forest, we're not just preserving nature, we're safeguarding water sourced and lessening the impact of fires,
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excuse me. impact of fires. we're protecting wetlands. not only saving birds and fish and the livelihoods of people who depend on them, we're shoring up the natural defenses to absorb the fury of hurricanes and superstorms. nearly one in three americans live in a community that has been struck by weather disasters just in the last few months. hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, heat waves. both the build back better plan and my bipartisan infrastructure agreement will make critical investments, significantly increasing the resilience for these devastating effects on the climate crisis. it includes creation of a civilian climate corp, similar to president franklin roosevelt's conservation corp. it is going to put diverse groups of americans to work doing everything from restoring wetlands to protecting clean water to making forest more resilient against wildfires. my plan also puts americans on a course to achieve 50 to 52%
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reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. and to reach net zero emissions flo later than 2050. you know, achieving these ambitious goals is going to require that nature itself play a role. scientists estimate that the protection and the restoration of national lands and waters could provide nearly 40% of a solution to climate change. that is why i'm signing these proclamations today as an additional reason. it is also why i'm restoring protections for the national forest in alaska which i've -- [ applause ] i've had the great honor to visit. when i was meeting with -- back in the days when the senator from alaska, i was with him after the oil spill in the north slope, and we stopped in the forret and he sat me at a table that was magnific sent
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restaurant in the of the forest which has tree trunks as big as those trees holding up the whole buildings. it is magnificent. and he sat me with what i call haas cartwright and his family. four big guys and they were, they were having a lumber company that they were foresting in the area. and they wanted me to support paying for roads into the national forest. and we started the conversation and to make a long story short, when i made it clear i wasn't going to do that, a father turned to his son who looked like the program at haas, big fella, and i won't use the exact language, i'm across the table and he turned to me and he and three of his sons and he said i'll bet this so and so, referring to me, ex plet
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deleted, doesn't realize that he's closer to lexington kentucky today when than when he flew off the north slope. and it made the point to me. alaska is pretty big. there is an awful lot we need to protect. but that is why i'm working to protect bristal bay from mining operations. and that were threatened one of the world's largest seminoles. that is why i'm refusing to sell out the artic national wildlife reserves to oil and gas. these predictions provide a bridge to the past but they also build a bridge to a safer more sustainable future where we strengthen our economy and pass on a healthy planet to our children and our grand children. let me close with this. edward abby, a writer who worked as a ranger at the arches national park in utah, wrote, and i quote, this is the most beautiful place on earth. there are many such places. every man and woman carries in
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heart and mind the image of the ideal place, the right place, the one true home known or unknown, actual or visionary. end of quote. folks, that is the united states of america. that is america. a country we all share together. a country that we must protect together. and this is just one more step in doing what other presidents have done, starting with teddy roosevelt and i'm now going to sign these proclamations and thank you all. thank you all for your support. thank you. [ applause ] first time signing this.
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[ applause ] >> all right. the second one i'm signing is the bears ears. i wish i could remember that little girl's name. i hope she's watching. you guys know it better than anybody. all right, there we go. i'm going to get you all a pen. [ applause ] and the third one i'm signing is the northeast canyons and sea mounts marine national monument.
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[ applause ] next one. next one. >> the president there signing the executive orders to restore protections for several national monuments. thank you for joining me, i'm victor blackwell. you've been listening to the president there doing what environmentalists and conservationists have been waiting for. restoring the policies for three national monuments. let's go to the white house now. correspondent kaitlan collins is there. and kaitlan, the president said this is the easiest thing he's ever done. roll back some of the policies of his predecessor. >> yeah.
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it seems easy compared to what has been happening in congress lately. >> right. >> reporter: the president trying to get the other parts of his agenda through congress right now. this is something that president biden made clear was a priority to him on day one when he was in office and we saw him sign several executive orders then. one was a review of the steps taken by the former president when it came to the monuments and downsizing them because of one of these, the bears ears in utah, trump had a reduced by 85% the size because he was requested to do so by ranchers ab farmers and republicans and pallientologists pushed back on it given the fossil rich area. this is one of three that the president is working to restore today using his executive authority. that is what he was signing. he saw him surrounded by the interior secretary and others who have pushed to make this happen. and so it is two things. it is one, the president undoing some of the steps that his
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predecessor had taken when it came to bears ears and the grand staircase and a third monument off the coast of new england. but also making the steps and the question is, is this a part of his legacy going forward when it comes to this effort. and so that is something that the president was saying there, that when it wam to two of the monuments, which we should note that are in utah, he did get pushback from mitt romney and mike lee but they were polite about their disagreement over the steps you just took a few moments ago. >> the event has ended. this is the second event after which the president did not take any questions. we know he often takes a few questions. not today. this is also the day that we got those disappointing jobs numbers. 194,000 jobs were added in september, far fewer than economists projected. unemployment rate now at 4.8%. second straight month of disappointing numbers for the administration. how is the white house reacting,
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kaitlan? >> well the president is choosing to focus on that second number there, the unemployment rate falling below 5%. of course the first time since he's been in office that it has been below that but also the bigger question about what it looks like in the wake of the pandemic and what this american recovery is looking like. and the numbers are obviously a r road block and the 194,000 jobs added to the economy, that is tough for any president to sell and it was tough for president biden as he said it is a sign progress is being made but pinning a lot of this on the delta variant and one thing that he was saying that white house officials hopes come to fruition is that the last one was taken in september. that is when the delta variant was hitting the united states very hard. you're seeing medical and health officials say they hoped they are turning the corner on that. the case numbers are going down. they're hoping vaccinations continue to go up. but it is a very difficult number because the thing about the unemployment rate even falling below 5%, in part
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because are leaving the work force entirely. and that is a big question that is still facing the white house. when you're saying the president didn't take any questions today, a big one is on the labor shortage and what the path forward for that is going to look like and how long the president's top economist think that is going to last, victor. because you heard the labor secretary saying earlier, there had been a line of thinking that come september when schools were reopening and parents could send their kids back to school with the jobless benefits and the enhanced were coming to an end, the $300 a month that people would start entering the were force in mass. there would be a surge in numbers. and we did not see that. instead the work force is shrinking and that is a deep concern that is facing the white house alongside the concerns about inflation, alongside oil and gas prices being at the highest level since 2014. so questions about what this means for the recovery, if it is a small moment or a larger reflection of how long this is going to take. >> kaitlan collins for us there at the white house. thank you very much.
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let's take a closer look at the u.s. jobs report. cnn's matt egan is with me now to break down the numbers. what do they tell us about the effort to recover now falls short, the expectations was what, 500,000? 194 but what is the big takeaway. >> at first blush this looked terrible. if you give it a letter grade it might be a "d", but it is not as bad as it looked. it might get a c-plus or a b-minus. here is why. the big negative is 194,000 jobs were add. less than half of what economists were expecting. this is the weakest job growth of the entire year. as far as why. let's look at the sectors. the big negative was schools. local school employment alone fell by 144,000 jobs last month. that is a big deal because normally there is a lot of jobs coming on from teachers and staff taken off the payroll during the summer. the tact that hiring did not
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pick up there -- >> in september of all months. >> in september is very, very interesting and it suggests they might have had a hard time finding the workers, particularly women. the other weakness, we saw hotel jobs barely grew and health care jobs fell and bar and restaurants didn't grow all that much. but there were some positives here, too. job gains in july and august, they were revised higher. that is good news. the unemployment rate fell to 4.8%. that is a pandemic low and a huge improvement from nearly 15% in april of 2020, black unemployment is below 8% and also wages are growing. at fastest pace if seven months suggesting there is a real demand for workers. so if you take a step back this shows that covid is continuing to distort the labor market and creating mismatching in the labor supply. >> and the president pointed out when this was taken, the new cases were 150,000 or so per day and now just south of 100,000 per day. so expecting some improved numbers moving forward?
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>> yeah. i hope so. i think when you zoom out and you have to look at where we are right now, the good news is that the job market has recovered three quarters of the jobs that were lost during covid. the bad news is that last quarter is proving to be very difficult to recover. we're still 5 million jobs down during the pandemic. at the current pace it would take two years to fully recover. so we're chipping away but we're not there yet. no one said this could be easy. >> and the right direction just not moving as much as some would like. thank you very much. >> thank you. let's bring in sherese davis and from transportation and infrastructure. so of course we're going to talk about that. congresswoman, thank you so much for your time. i want to start with this jobs report, 194,000 jobs created, certainly the delta variant plays a role but gina mccarthy said if passing these two pieces of legislation, if they get through congress that will bring hundreds of thousands of job and speed up this recovery. is this intra party fight
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happening with the democrats slowing down this country's recovery? >> well i think, i think it is absolutely right that once we get through the -- the next couple of pieces of legislation that we're working on particularly the infrastructure bill, we are talking about creating so many great paying jobs that are going to get us to a thriving economy. when we're talking about the infrastructure particularly the infrastructure bill here in the kansas, a major infrastructure of transportation hub, so i'm really looking forward to us getting those bills across the finish line so that we could see the job growth and the -- also the issues that are impacting climate change and we heard a little bit about that earlier in the program. >> congresswoman, i know that you and several other democrats are now launching this campaign
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to boost support to try to push the infrastructure bill specifically forward. it is passed the senate. it is really not the point of conflict within the party. are you -- do you believe that it is in jeopardy? >> no, i think what we're seeing right now is the -- is progress on the negotiations of getting not just the infrastructure bill across the finish line, but both bills. and i think that when -- i'm glad you brought up the work in the kansas third. i'm making sure that folks can really feel and see the specifics around how this infrastructure bill is going benefit our area. and i had a chance yesterday to put out a report on the bridges in the state of the systems here in kansas, and i think that a lot of folks recognize how important this is. >> certainly we know that what is standing in the way of
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getting that infrastructure bill passed is the larger safety net bill. was it $3.5 trillion, senator joe manchin wants that to come closer to $1.5 trillion. his ceiling. there was a suggestion from congressman ro khanna on a call with the president that to get senator manchin and the chair of the senate budget committee, senator bernie sanders in a room together, to just talk out the differences. how could they get to some compromise and the joke from the president was that that would be a homicide. how does your party get this done if you can't even get the two leaders of -- i don't want to call the opposition, but the factions in a room to talk. >> yeah, i mean, i think that one of the things that we're seeing is this -- as this process is playing out in the way that negotiations often do, which is you've got a lot of folks who are here, i'm never
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going to stop pushing for the needs of the kansas third and hopefully all of the senators and representatives are pushing for the needs of their -- >> but they are not even talking to one another. yes, it is one thing to work for your constituents, but if you can't get into a room to converse about a how you come to an agreement, how do you eventually pass this legislation. >> well the negotiations are happening and i think that the president is talking to the various senators and doing everything he can. he's coming over to the house. he came over and visited with our caucus about this. i know i've had the chance to talk to him multiple times. at the end of the day we're seeing the negotiations happen. you know, if they're not sitting down for a drink while they're doing it. i don't know that that means it is not happening. it is just not happening in the way that folks thought it might. but the negotiations are going on. >> the question is if they are having bourbon while they are talking but the question is
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whether they are even talking to one another. and there was finally an agreement on the debt ceiling. there was the votes yesterday to push forward. there was a moment after the vote that a majority leader chuck schumer delivered a speech, was criticized by senator joe manchin and to even see him behind the senator holding his face. i want to you listen to leader schumer and then senator manchin and your thoughts after that. >> leader mcconnell and senate republicans insisted they wanted a solution to the debt ceiling but said democrats must raise it alone. by going through a drawn out convoluted and risky reconciliation process. that was simply unacceptable to my caucus. and yesterday senate republicans finally realized that they're obstruction was not going to work. >> why was that not appropriate? >> i think what we have to do is find the pathway forward to weaponize, we have to be weaponized.
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you can't be playing politics on both sides. >> congresswoman, you've urged your caucus, this was in your september 30th floor piece to set the gamesmanship aside. does the speech like from leader schumer make it harder to get these pieces of legislation passed and then in december to fund the government, raise the debt ceiling again? >> you know, i think that even just the kind of framing of how we're approaching this is part of why it is hard sometimes to have this conversation. look, i think that -- i think that the negotiations that we're having are making progress. and you know, we could discuss whether or not it should be in person, via email, all of that kind of stuff, but the negotiations are going forward. and i do think that there is absolute a point to the
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conversation of the politics, the gamesmanship going on particularly around this debt ceiling issue. and the fact that we've come together seven times, the last seven times to adjust this is, it is very clear that the gamesmanship and politicking is what is holding us up right now. and i'm not -- i'm not a fan of that. i don't want it to happen. regardless of which party is doing it. >> congresswoman sherese davids, democrat of kansas, thank you so much. >> thanks. steve bannon is defying the january 6 select committee and informing them he will not cooperate with their subpoena. the committee is now responding to that and they say that they will swiftly consider advancing a criminal contempt of congress referral. we'll talk about that next.
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breaking news. the white house has informed the national archives that they are not asserting executive privilege on behalf of donald trump. that paves the way for the arc archive to share documents with the house investigating january 6. also this afternoon, the letter to the house select committee investigating the january 6 capitol attack is from the lawyer from steve bannon and he said that bannon will not comply with the subpoena for do. s and testimony and the vice chair filed their response. the committee will consider criminal content referral to the department of justice. joining us now, correspondent ryan nobles.
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evan first to you on the white house's decision to not assert executive privilege. just fill out what that means. >> reporter: well what this means is that the white house is saying that whatever claims these four witnesses that have now defied this committee, mark meadows, a number of other former trump allies, that they don't have a ground to stand on. that is in the view of the current white house, which from all that we know in the courts, they're the ones that hold the power of executive privilege. now the former president, former president trump is claiming that even though he's no longer president, he still can assert that right and i have to tell you, there is a lot of uncertainty as to whether that can hold up in court. a lot of this is -- has not been challenged before in court so i think we're up and we'll have to
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see in the next few months how this played out. however, it is important that the current president, president biden is saying in this letter from the white house counsel to the national archives that the current president is saying that these are extraordinary circumstances, that these -- this effort by former trump and people who supported him to essentially up end the constitution do not deserve the protection of executive privilege and clearing the way for people to provide documents and to provide testimony. a big deadline is coming up in the next -- in the next week or so. when these people are now supposed to show up to provide testimony. to be deposed. that includes steve bannon, we know that includes mark meadows, we'll see whether they show up or whether they're going to try to claim, as they have said today, that they are going to -- they're going to assert that they have some kind of absolute immunity. this is something that is going to have to be contested in court.
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victor. >> we're a day beyond the deadline for the records for the documents an the depositions that you say are supposed to come up next week. let's go to capitol hill here. ryan is there. on the select committee there. we're learning some about which trump associates are cooperating, which are not and what they're prepared to do. what are you learned? >> reporter: i don't know if we could go as far as to use the word cooperating. it is not exactly clear as to what level their communicating with the committee. but we do know and we reported this earlier in the day, the select committee said that steve bannon sent a letter that he planned to not cooperate. in a statement less than an hour ago they said that mark meadows, chief of staff and cash patel in the department of defense are engaging with the committee. now we don't know if that means full cooperation but it peers there is some level of negotiation for their
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cooperation. and they are clear they are going to do whatever they can to get cooperation out of these witnesses and that includes criminal contempt if it should come to that. the statement reads, quote, we will not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock and we will swiftly consider advancing a criminal contempt of congress referral. and the running out the clock part is a very important part of this equation. because to evans point, there isn't a lot of legal precedent for the arguments in a court of law and it is to benefit of the former president donald trump and his associates to throw as many legal barriers in the way even if their ultimately going to be unsuccessful because the select committee doesn't have enough time to adjudicate all of these matters and come to a swift conclusion ahead of the midterm elections next year. so their time frame is short. so the trump team could run out the clock as long as possible.
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and one other note i'll make, in the statement from the select committee there is one name that is suspiciously ab sent and they don't even mention it and that is dan scavino. as cnn has reported they had been unable to serve him with a subpoena. they don't make any mention about his level of cooperating or not cooperating which tends to make you at least assume that they are still having a difficult time even finding him. victor. >> ryan nobles and evan perez, thank you both for that. let's bring in now cnn analysts jennifer rogers. first let's start with this decision from the white house. to say that they're not going to assert executive privilege. how many avenues does that cut off for former president trump and his allies. >> not all that many. it is not a surprise. they didn't assert executive privilege over the emails where it was jeff rosen and others talking about what was happening in the days after the election
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when trump was trying to have doj over turn the election. so i'm not surprised to say these are extraordinary events that happened and we are not going to block as an institutional matter these records fromming public and helping congress to sort out what happened here. as evan and ryan were just saying, this is all a game about running out the clock in time. so even though the documents could go over and that is going to be, i think, helpful to the committee as they try to really especially put forward the timeline of what happened on january 6, they still need testimony. they still need to find out what was said and done. that is going to require witnesses. those folks are going to delay and refuse to come like bannon and then we're in this game of court and running out that clock. >> and seeing if republicans take back the house and that would be the end of the committee and the investigation. let's talk about steve bannon specifically, because there is a line from vice chair thompson and cheney in which they say mr. bannon indicated he will try to hide behind vague references to
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privileges of the former president. steve bannon was a private citizen at the time of the insurrection. what privileges is he covered by, if any in. >> absolutely none. of all of the four witnesses, he has the least claim to executive privilege. he wasn't part of the administration at this time. so he has no claim. the problem is there hasn't been litigation about all of this. if this gets to court in a timely manner and a judge is in cl kleined to sort ---in kriened to sort it out quickly but a part on the judiciary and a criminal contempt referral turns into a case at doj, but i don't expect that would happen here. so it is still could take some time but fas the thirst one to be dismissed. >> let's talk about the former president himself. cnn has reviewed from letter from an attorney from the former president saying they should use any privileges or immunities that they can. does the former executive have
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executive privilege here in any way. >> he doesn't. i don't think he does i should say. because this hasn't been litigated. it is supposed to be an institutional privilege. it protects the presidency not a particular president. so those communications are kept secret. not so that president trump could keep it quiet like you would with an attorney client privilege but the president as an institution needs to have these kind of communications so that is why he doesn't hold that privilege any more. biden holds that privilege. biden has an interest in protecting the communications in places where it matters, where it would harm the institution to let them out. but in this case, when you are talking about the attempted overthrow of our democracy, biden has properly said this isn't a case where it is helpful to the country and the institution of the presidency to keep these communications private. here we're going to let them come out. but again a court hasn't officially said for example a former president doesn't hold the privilege period, and end of sentence, full stop. so there is nothing really to point to at this point other
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than as i was saying, the gem notion of what the privilege is supposed to be fear. so that is why it is very tough to talk about what the law is and isn't in this area because it really hasn't been litigated. >> it hasn't been tested. we understand that jen psaki has just addressed this. let's listen to this. >> it was in many respected on the attack of the democracy. the president is dedicated to make sure something like that could never happen again which is why the administration is cooperating with on going investigations including the january 6 select committee to bring to light what happened. the president has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not warranted from the first set of documents from the trump white house provided to us by the national archives. as we've said previously, this is an ongoing process and this is the first set of documents and we will evaluate questions of priv ridge on case-by-case basis but the president has been
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clear he believes it is the utmost importance to have a complete understanding of the events of that day to prevent them from happening again. >> the president -- >> and i looked over to you and you said makes sense. >> because they should be doing this on case-by-case basis. they want to see what is it that executive privilege might apply to. does it or not. they're not doing a blanket everything could come out. we're not going to stop any of this for executive privilege. they want to re-evaluate it on a case by case basis to protect the sankit of those communications and that is the right way to do it. >> jennifer rogers, thank you. several dozen people protesting vaccine mandates con front parents, walking children to school. watch this. >> you're a child abuser. >> and fox news is defending angry parents. we'll have more on this in a moment.
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>> it's traumatizing because you put that mask on him. >> that's my child. that's my child. you better respect my child. >> masking children is child abuse. you mask your child, you're a child abuser. >> you should choose what goes on your child's face, and in your child's body. this is rape. this is rape. they're trying to rape our children. >> with me now is the host of the run tell this podcast, mara, it's unbelievable. they're so concerned about traumatizing children that they're willing to stand on a street corner and shout at them. >> they talk about you're ab abusing your child. you have anti-vaxxers, unvaccinated adults screaming in the face of unvaccinated children who are not protected by covid, putting their very health at risk. let's be clear on the issue with
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mask mandates. these individual schools and school districts are required to comply with l.a. county health orders, so by going directly to the schools and to the parents and doing this, all they're doing is terrorizing the students, and the person that i spoke with this morning from the school district said that this is having a real affect on the children, and they are so upset by what's happening, just as they're trying to get to school that the school is now having to offer them counseling. i don't see how this helps anything. >> if you have a problem with the policy, you can take it to the policy makers but to shout at the children and the parents as they're walking to school doesn't help them at all. this week we know that attorney general merrick garland asked the fbi to address as he calls them, angry parents. since then, we've seen a spike in attention to this on fox news. here's what we're seeing. >> it's a propaganda operation funded by you out of the
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department of so-called justice, designed to tell teachers and school board members that when parents complain it's domestic terrorism. that's right. a mom yelling at school board members at a public meeting is the same as her dawning an explosive vest and blowing up a school. >> parents have found their voice, and that is unacceptable to the biden administration. parents are the problem. >> what's this about? >> let's be clear about something. the parents will say this is about choice, this is about choice. these parents have choice. they can spend the money to send their children to a private school where the school aligns more with their personal believes and values. they can dedicate the time and resources to home schooling their children. what this is about is public health measures that have been put in place for the greater good, and it's worth noting that right now, in most school districts there are at least ten vaccine mandates. everything from polio to hepatitis that have been in place forever. those who are protesting right now likely had to get all of those vaccines. we had to get them, to go to
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school. nobody had a problem until now. now it's been politicized. now it's about power and control. >> every month fox news comes up with once it was mr. potato head, and then it was dr. suess, and let's turn to the former president donald trump disparaging haitian refugees seeking asylum in the u.s. claiming that haitians have an aids problem when he was asked about covid-19 protocols. let's listen to the former president. >> we have hundreds of thousands of people flowing in from haiti. haiti has a tremendous aids problem. aids is a step beyond. aids is a real bad problem. so hundreds of thousands of people are coming into our concern. if you look the at stats, if you look at numbers, take a look at what's happening in haiti, a
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tremendous problem with aids. many of those people will probably have aids and they're coming into our country, and we don't do anything about it. we let everybody come in. it's like a death wish. it's like a death wish for our country. >> no one should be shocked or surprised that the former president says this. this is mr. s hole country. this is also the president in 2017 denied that he said something like this before that all haitians have aids. we should not skip over it or get used to it because he is the presu presumptive front runner for the nomination. >> men and women living with hiv and aids are deserving of dignity and respect. they don't deserve to be spoken about this way. when it comes to this issue specifically, trump's brand is fear of the other. that's how he launched his campaign in 2015 with mexicans as rapists, one of his very first moves as presidents was to ban those coming from muslim
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countries. the only kind of immigration trump seems to be okay with is melania trump version, nice white people coming from white people, and brown people coming from brown countries are coming here to hurt you. that is rhetoric as old as this country. this is not a new playbook. it is very effective. he has seen how effective it has been, and he's pulling out the old trump card. >> and this haitians have aids stigma is not new for this country. in the early 90s during the haitian refugee country, then attorney general william barr serving under george h.w. bush created this detention program as it is at guantanamo bay where thousands of haitians were detained there, kept there for months, more than a year, because they were hiv positive, so this country, not just former president trump has a history of this type of activity. for a more in-depth discussion,
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