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this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. we begin with breaking news. pfizer is now seeking fda emergency use authorization for its covid-19 vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. if authorized, this would be the first covid-19 vaccine available to younger children. >> right now the pfizer vaccine is fully approved for those age 16 and older, has emergency use authorization for ages 12 to 15. in fact, all those people 12 and up can be vaccinated.
here's the question, when for 5 and 11-year-olds? elizabeth cohen joins us now. there has been talk about possible approval before halloween. does this mean that timeline is possible? >> it certainly is more likely, jim, knowing they have applied for their emergency use authorization for children ages 5 to 11, it makes that timeline much more likely. the reason we know that is when you look at the timeline for adults, how quickly that got approved, that tells you something. it doesn't tell you everything, children may take longer. but we know that fda advisers are meeting next week, and let's take i loa look at how quickly happened for adults. for adults, pfizers applied for a emergency use authorization november 20th of last year. what happened today happened on november 20th last year for adults and they received their emergency use authorization three weeks later on december
11th. that's how quickly it happened. again it doesn't mean it will happen that quickly with children. but this gives you sort of a feeling for it. now let's look at about what we know about the efficacy of this vaccine in children. so, pfizer did a clinical trial, they had about 2200 participants. they were given, these children, ages 5 to 11, were given a dose that was one third the dose given to adults, pfizer says the vaccine generated safe and robust antibody response. now, it doesn't mean the children were protected from covid, we don't know that yet. the fda knows it and we will know that soon. but we do know they had antibodies. soon we'll find out did the antibodies work. and jim and erica, you have children, both of you in the 5 to 11 range, i will tell you that when our youngest child who is 14 got her vaccination last spring, it was such a relief for me and my husband to know that she was protected. and i look forward to the time when your children and other young children get the same
relief. >> yeah, i think we are right there with you. a huge relief when my 14-year-old did and i got home from d.c. last night and my 11-year-old said to me, mom, do you have any news on pfizer, did they ask for an eua? clearly we talk about it a lot. he did say eua. when we look at this, we know we have this timeline for the advisers for when they're supposed to meet. could the fact that they're officially asking for this eua now, could that in any way change the timeline? >> i think that now that we have this application, that means that the advisers will meet somewhat quickly. that's what happened with the adults and so we can bet it will happen, it is not going to be a long time. >> well, it is all very good news to start off the day. elizabeth, thank you. >> thank you. there is more breaking news this morning. it is a busy morning. several former trump aides are now facing a deadline to answer subpoenas from the january 6th house committee. the group expected to defy the
request for documents tied to their communications on the day of the insurrection. >> and also just within the last hour, the senate judiciary committee releasing a damning report detailing how trump and a top doj lawyer attempted to overturn the 2020 election. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez joining us now. what more are we learning, what else is new in this senate report? >> well, erica, this report paints a picture of the white house and people at the justice department, trying to fight over what to do with president trump's demands that the justice department weigh in on the election after, of course, after he had lost. we learned from this report that mark meadows, then the chief of staff, repeatedly was calling top officials at the time at the justice department asking them to try to investigate things including the bizarre italygate conspiracy. this is something that essentially says that there was an italian contractor working
with the cia to overturn votes in several states. we also learned from this report that multiple officials including pat cipollone and other lawyers at the white house threatened to resign because of what the president was trying to get the justice department to do. we know that the president was working, jeffrey clark, at the time, a low level official, nobody ever heard of, and he was essentially pushing for the justice department to tell the states that the justice department had found perhaps some irregularities in the states, which they had not. and so right now what we know is that the report is out, the republicans say that the president never actually told these people to do anything wrong. here is senator durbin talking about what they found in this report. >> our report shows in detail how relentless this president was, were it not for jeffrey rosen, richard donoghue and
eight members of the department of justice who said we'll resign if you take rosen out of the picture and put clark in, jeffrey clark in, if those efforts weren't made, we could have seen a collapse of that department of justice into a political entity. >> and, really, you know, the republicans are saying in their version of the report, guys, that in the end, the president took the advice of the senior officials, but if you read this report, you will see how close we came to the president, the former president, pressuring the justice department to try to weigh in and try to put essentially pressure on the states to send electors, a separate slate of electors and january 6th could have turned out a lot different if those efforts had succeeded. >> the evidence is mounting, but so is the revisionism for many in the republican party. thank you very much. let's discuss with elie honig. good to have you.
we had the former vice president mike pence as part of this ongoing revisionism within the republican party say the other day this is one day in january, media is making a mountain out of a mole hill here. this is yet more evidence of just how long, how many weeks, how concerted this effort was to overturn the election. in this case, via the justice department. >> yeah, jim, this report is titled subverting justice. i think those two words really nail exactly what was happening here. this report confirms there were two different coups happening, parallel to one another. they were not just talk, not just fluff, this was a very real concerted coordinated effort. one coup was donald trump trying to steal the election. the other coup was happening inside doj as jeffrey clark who say real villain in this story, tried to take over his ag so he could weaponize goj to help trump take over the election. so this is a real scandal and it is more than that. merrick garland needs to get
involved here. congress has done its part. it is time for doj it take a look? from a legal perspective, does this open any of these folks up in terms of criminal charges if the doj doesn't step in? what is the next move here? >> i think it absolutely should. so, first of all, it is a federal crime to try to interfere with an election, to try to get somebody to count ballots that were not cast, to discard ballots that were cast ar or to falsely certify an election winner. jeffrey clark this guy committed a fraud. he drafted a letter inside doj, he tried to get the attorney general to send, saying we identified serious election concerns in the state of georgia, serious enough that you, georgia, need to convene a special session and potentially appoint a new set of electors. that's nonsense. that did not happen. that's a fraud, trying to get the attorney general to sign on to a fraud and use it to challenge an election, that's a crime too. >> elie, we have so many investigations here at the state, and the national level,
but no charges, right? and i just wonder do you see this leading anywhere? we had richard painter on yesterday, served in the bush administration, he said what you need is a special counsel here, god knows we have been down that path before, but are any of these going to lead anywhere concrete? >> that's the big question. will there be actual consequences? congress has now done essentially all congress can do. they can gather information, they can hold hearings, they can issue a report. we have the report. that's really all congress can do. you have to look at doj, look at the fulton county district attorney down in atlanta. what are they going to do? we don't know for sure. we know at least though the fulton county d.a. is criminally investigating. we have no such indication from doj for merrick garland and i think prosecutors, i get this is a difficult complex case, potentially fraught politically, if you're not even taking a serious look at potential charges here, you just are not doing your job at a certain point. >> yeah. the potential politics, right?
there is still the law. so law should win out on that one. stay with us. i want to bring in cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider joining with us new details about the big lie that led up to the january 6th attack, the insurrection, specifically here, trump's lawyers admitting under oath they knew the claims they were pushing publicly were false. >> jessica, you obtained thousands of pages of documents on this. what do they show? >> our team has been going through this, tyranny snead, caitlin p polanz, it shows how they did little to nothing to verify the unfounded election fraud claims before they blasted them out in press conferences and continued to repeat them for weeks after the election. so this is all coming out because a former executive for dominion voting systems, eric coomer, he is suing for defamation, in part because of the claims that giuliani and powell made. powell in particular claimed that coomer had been recorded in a conversation with antifa
members saying that he had rigged the election for biden. powell though later admitted under oath there was never any such recording. so now this defamation lawsuit. and rudy giuliani in particular, he seemed to act exasperated in his deposition that he should be even expected to vet any claims. he said this about coomer. exactly what role he played, i had no idea. it is a big company, lots of people do different things, i had no idea, nor was i particularly interested at that point. and what we're also seeing in these documents is something the new york times previously reported, that about a week before powell and giuliani made these claims about coomer and dominion rigging the election, people in the trump campaign, they put together a memo, specifically debunking key points of these claims. in the court documents, though, we looked at that there is no indication that the memo was ever shared with giuliani or powell. in addition, guys, there are several cases where state officials are seeking sanctions for these false claims. in fact, in august, a federal
judge actually sanctioned sydney powell and others saying this, the question before the court is whether plaintiffs attorneys engaged in litigation practices that are abusive and in turn sanctionable. the short answer is yes. so a lot being concluded here about just how not enough vetting was being done before these claims, false claims were being made, and, guys, our team, we reached out to attorneys for giuliani, powell, the trump campaign, no response. but all of them, of course, asking the court to dismiss these lawsuits. this lawsuit, but the new details coming out, this ey sho how giuliani and powell willingly amplified false claims about fraud without an attempt to vet those claims. >> jessica schneider, appreciate the reporting. thank you. let's bring back elie honig now. as we look at this, those admissions, does this create any kind of legal jeopardy for them? >> it does. big picture, it shows rudy and
sydney powell were just full of it. but more legally focused here, first of all, there could be consequences for their law license. rudy has his law license suspended. sydney powell faces sanctions. you have a lot of leeway in what you're able to say and argue, but you can't make stuff up, you can't lie and put it on the record in front of a court. there are several lawsuits pending against rudy giuliani for defamation, spreading a willful falsehood, meaning did they know it was false? and if this proves that, it seems it does, that could put them and others on the hook for civil damages, for money damages. >> okay. we have subpoenas out and by the way got to answer today, they have defied them to this point, we'll see if somehow in the next 18 hours they answer them, but it is possible they defy them. what are the legal consequences for that? >> yeah, i'm not counting on steve bannon or anybody else to
comply with the subpoenas today. congress has a tough road ahead. really the two viable options here is they can go into the courts and ask a judge for an order requiring bannon, meadows, scavino, et cetera, to testify. the problem is it takes time. it can take months, it can take years. if congress is going it make that move, they got to be ready to go into courts i would say tomorrow and the courts need to handle this more quickly. they can't take months or years. they don't need to. the other option is congress can send over to doj a criminal referral and it will be up to merrick garland, there is a criminal charge for contempt of congress, it is a misdemeanor, but it will be merrick garland's call whether to pursue that kind of criminal prosecution against these subpoena defiers. >> bannon and others, they're making a bet that no one is going to do anything. maybe that's a good bet. i don't know. you know? >> it seems like it. it seems like that is the bet. democrats in congress in particular have a poor record of enforcing their subpoenas. look at what happened after the mueller investigation, look at what happened on the investigation of ukraine with
the first impeachment. essentially trump and his people were able to slow play the investigations where they didn't get anywhere. >> yeah, dragging it out has been key in many ways. >> elie honig, thank you very much. coming up next, a federal judge has blocked the texas abortion law at least for now. what that means for women in that state and where does the legal fight go from here. plus, any moment now we could get word from capitol hill, a deal has been struck to raise the debt ceiling. republican leader mitch mcconnell floating two options to democrats late last night. we'll take you live to capitol hill. [crowd cheering] how's sanchez looking? with your qb's increased spin rate, any pass with a launch angle of at least 43 degrees puts sanchez in the endzone. you a data analyst or something? an investor in invesco qqq. a fund that gives you access to nasdaq-100 innovations like ai statistical analysis software. how am i gonna do? become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq.
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in texas is now on hold temporarily. a federal judge issued an order overnight blocking the law for now. >> that controversial ban prohibits abortions after six weeks with no exceptions for rape or incest, and it also empowers private citizens anywhere to sue anyone who helps facilitate an abortion in the state. cnn's laura jarrett joining us now. this say win for abortion rights activists, but there is sort of a big but here. will it last? >> that's the big question this morning, guys. is this a meaningful victory, or is it a hollow victory? as you point out, part of what made this law so unusual to begin with is who can enforce it. just anyone off the street, any private party can enforce this. and so the justice department's quandary here was how do we get in court, how do we show a judge that the united states of america has been harmed if any private citizen can sue, but no private citizen has sued yet. but the judge in this case, judge pitman, an obama
appointee, he saw through what texas was trying to do and writes this in part, fully aware that depriving its citizens of this right by direct state action would be flagrantly unconstitutional, meaning the right to abortion, the state contrived an unprecedented and transparent statutory scheme to do just that. but the judge went on to note the reality on the ground here for women in texas is that women are still getting abortions. they're just not getting them in texas. women who have the means and opportunity and the money can travel across state lines to places like louisiana and oklahoma to get abortions. and so that was the hook for the justice department to say, hey, look, this affects interstate commerce, commerce between the states, and so therefore the united states has an interest here to get this struck down. the judge was persuaded by that. and for several other reasons noticing that the feds have a federal interest here in protecting a woman's right to an abortion, but i should note, guys, this is just one federal judge in texas. this is going to get appealed up
to the fifth circuit, which we know is more conservative, at least leans more conservative generally, and then whoever loses that can appeal this to the u.s. supreme court. so we are in for a long haul here. >> so at least one texas clinic has said it will now resume abortions. legally the trouble is that this reprieve or stay or whatever you want to call it allows for retroactive action -- explain that legally. what happens to -- >> this is -- this is one of the other little wrinkles they threw in, deliberately in this law, the way the lawyers crafted it, deliberately was so the judge has issued a preliminary injunction to block the texas state law. as of this moment in texas, you can legally get an abortion. however, if another court, the upper court, the court of appeals, or the supreme court, overrules this judge's injunction, then any abortion that happened then, anyone can -- anyone can sue an
abortion provider who does an abortion right at this moment, even if at this moment it was legal, they can retroactively sue that abortion provider under this law. >> it is really something. laura, we know you'll continue to stay on top of it. appreciate it, thank you. >> sure. in our next hour, the senate set to convene, negotiations -- reconvene negotiations on a short-term debt ceiling increase to avert a potential first ever government default. >> yeah. do these go anywhere? when the temporary extension offered by mitch mcconnell means we will likely see another standoff over the borrowing limit a few months from now. lauren fox is on capitol hill. i feel like every day i'm asking you where the negotiations stand on half a million things. at the top of the list now, just pay the bills, right? are they going to do it? >> reporter: this one is pretty basic, jim. that's right. negotiations behind the scenes are going well, according to both the republicans and the democrats that i am talking to. they're not quite there yet in
exactly how they are going to end this stalemate. but there is agreement they are going to have some kind of short-term debt limit increase. we heard earlier today from dick durbin. here is what he said about what just has transpired. >> it was a reckless and irresponsible strategy, which senator mcconnell finally realized. so he's extended the debt ceiling until december. it is not resolved as it should be. but at least during this period of time we can finally act on the bipartisan infrastructure bill as well as the reconciliation bill. >> reporter: and you heard a little bit there from durbin, he's saying, mcconnell blinked here. after months of saying that republicans were not going to lift a finger to help democrats increase the country's borrowing limit, essentially mcconnell handed them an out card yesterday telling his conference in a private republican lunch that he was going to provide this option to democrats and
they are going to have to provide some votes to at least get over a procedural hurdle. but all of those details still being worked out in the negotiations. we expect things to pick back up this morning. but schumer making it clear last night on the floor they're moving in a good direction. unfortunately, we're going to have some deja vu come when we will go through this entire rigmarole all over again. >> the big question is, lauren, is this enough time, this extension, based on where negotiations stand within the democratic party, right, to get the infrastructure bill and the larger budget reconciliation? are they moving close enough that this gives them the time they need? >> reporter: well, certainly this week they have been so focused on increasing the debt ceiling that there hasn't been as much time for discussions about exactly how they're going to thread that needle between the bipartisan infrastructure bill and that bigger social safety net package. those negotiations about what will still be included in that bigger package have to continue
because there are still sticking points about how much you're going to spend, that top line number that we have talked so much about with moderates arguing that they want some programs that are going to be included in that bill to be means tested, meaning only the neediest americans need to qualify for some of the benefits that democrats are discussing. progressives arguing that they don't want any means testing. so there are so many sticking points still to work out, that, yes, there is going to be more time to focus on the negotiations if the debt ceiling is punted until late november, early december. but it is not so much time, given how big these differences really are within the democratic ranks. >> yeah. more but is it enough? lauren fox, appreciate it, thank you. as we learn new details about former president trump, his plans to push and act on the big 2020 election lie, one of the key figures in trump's first impeachment trial is speaking out now. a remarkable set of stories.
one of the central figures from former president trump's first impeachment trial is now speaking out in a new book about her time in the administration and the larger threat she sees to american democracy. fiona hill, senior fellow with the foreign policy studies program at the brookings institution joins us now. she is author of this new book, there is nothing for you here. it is a powerful story, fiona. so good to have you this morning. >> thank you. >> i want to make it clear to folks at home, there are so many books here that talk about all the bad things happening in the
world. make clear to folks, america is your adopted country, brought up in the north of england, you love this country. and that comes across in this book. you love the country, but you see a real threat. forget about trump for a moment, to the system today, i want to quote one, this goes back to the helsinki press conference that moment next to putin. the press conference highlighted for me and for the public how low america could sink in its own estimation and the eyes of the world. the country's-long festering domestic crisis exploded into view, this i felt was the agony of american populism. but it wasn't over yet. tell us, how serious is the danger? >> as i say in the book, it is not over yet. and every single day you and all of your colleagues are reporting on yet more evidence of this. vice president pence in the last few days talking down what happened on january 6th when he was targeted himself personally by a mob by, you know, people who were enraged that he was doing his constitutional duty in certifying the elections.
we were incapable of passing a major infrastructure bill, a reconciliation bill that we know the majority of americans want because everyone's looking for political win. and in the way they're struggling with each other, the parties infighting, the fighting within the parties, the obsession with trump, one person rather than 338 million people here, we're just about to throw out the window hundreds of years of efforts and blood that has been spilled to build up the most incredible democracy. we're proving ourselves to be sadly not so exceptional. >> the system weaker. we had conversations about this, it didn't begin with trump, it goes back to the iraq invasion, the 2008 financial crisis, a series of events that undermined americans confidence in their own system, the world's confidence in our system. that's an important point, is it not? it did not begin in 2016. >> no, i think we have been -- trying to give ourselves a pass by saying it is all about trump. that's just too easy. he's not the cause. he's a symptom. he's a product of his own time.
he's a man of the era. and, you know, it is this longer tale that you say, this long period, 9/11 was, you know, another factor in this. we have been looking back on this over the 20 years and seeing where we lost ourselves in the forever wars. it tells you that the financial crisis of 2008 and 2009, we had many body blows to the system, and this, you know, has given us that point of pause. covid, we haven't even mentioned that. the last two years, i mean, believe it, we have been in two years of near lockdowns and struggling with the pandemic, more than 600,000 americans have died and partly they have died because we haven't been able to get our act together on collective action. we have proven that we can't do the things that we used to be able to do in the past. >> the threat -- we talked to 2016 about the disinformation threat from outside the country. now we have it very much from inside. >> exactly. >> you write about trump's admiration for autocrats and not just vladimir putin, but erdogan of turkey, xi of china.
during his presidency, there were who saw that as a trump personality quirk as opposed to something substantial. as we watch january 6th here and the events leading up to it, it wasn't just an admiration, was it not, but a trump desire to replicate that kind of power? >> yeah, he saw himself in those individuals and what he wanted to be and what he thought actually being president or governing a country was all about, about ruling, about having unchecked power. also the ability to be able to stay in place. what was january 6th about? it was overturning the results of an election, the legitimate results of an election. with the idea that you have the right, the personal right for you, that person, to stay in power indefinitely. at least certainly through the next election cycle. >> there is -- there are a lot of stories in this book about trump and the administration's dismissal of women. yourself included. here you are, you literally
wrote the book on putin, an enormous asset to him on russia, and dismissed because of your gender. it was easier for trump to dismiss women and see them as problems, women who got in the way. they were after all the nonplayers in his world as a senior administration put it and like those other nonplayers i too found myself in the cross hairs. what was it like to have your experience, your knowledge, but also your dedication and your willingness to serve the country dismissed? >> well, look, i have to say, it was just really dismissed by him. i think this is a personal problem that he has. we have seen the way he's lashed out against all of the people, particular lit women who have come out and criticized him, the women close to him and know him even better and much better than i do. and he's lashed out against them as well. he doesn't like to be criticized and i think he sees the gender of women as weak. so, again it all about being a strong man in opposition to women, he doesn't like the idea
of strong women. it was very interesting watching his interactions with chancellor angela merkel, probably one of the most powerful political leaders, just about to leave the political scene, she's had this huge impact on germany, but on the european and global affairs and she couldn't be more different. she's an understated woman, with incredible confidence and power. she's a strong woman. but she's the antithesis of the macho strong man persona that trump saw he needed to project. >> by the way, she leaves office with 80% approval rating. she earned respect of people in germany. >> she does. >> i want to talk about the title "there is nothing for you here," that you relate a story, words your father said to you as you were growing up in poverty, really, in england, in a tough time there, to seek out fortune and success elsewhere in the u.s. which you did and you achieved enormous success here. you are raising the alarm about the country. tell us about hope, right,
because what is the path forward to get over these challenges you're describing here? >> i think there is a lot of hope. i actually the whole last part of the book it is my policy wonk of coming from the brookings institution but laying out the fact we know how to fix it and we have the capacity to do it. there are amazing things being done on the community and local level across the united states. my family in the u.s. is scattered across the whole country out to the midwest. when i go out to visit, there is energy, there is positivity about what they can do around their churches, around their local communities. people know how to fix things. what is getting in the way is the politics, and some particular personalities. america isn't just built up of rugged individuals doing their own thing. america over the centuries has been built up by people pulling together. and we can get collective action and i think the best way to do it is to start at the bottom, in your community, in your, you know, local neighborhood, we have seen people pulling together over covid like this. we think about early can do
atmosphere where people pulling together to help people in their local hospitals. all the first responders. people in the grocery stores, we can do this. >> yeah, making donations, right? time and money and -- >> and people putting themselves in the front line, all of those people who have gone to work every single day from just the people who were doing the security and buildings, the metro, the people who are at the grocery store, the people going to the hospitals, those are the real americans who can bring us forward. >> often at great risk to themselves. this is the book "there is nothing for you here." i would highly recommend it because it is a powerful personal story as well as a story about our country today. fiona hill, thank you very much. >> thanks so much, jim. thanks. >> erica? microsoft revealing disturbing new data about russian hacking and how successful these groups are at breaching foreign governments. those details next.
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government-backed hackers and the attempts they make to compromise systems around the world, that russian hackers account for around 60% of the attempts made by government-backed hackers. that is followed by the usual suspects of north korea at around a quarter, iran and china. russia, microsoft says, is focused on espionage. getting into government systems, understanding foreign governments. they targeted the u.s., ukraine and the united kingdom primarily and there has been a massive spike by russian government-backed hackers to try to get into government organizations. that rose from 3% in 2020 to more than 50% in the first half of this year. and they're continuing to try to get into government systems as well as organizations like think tanks that study foreign governments. i asked a top microsoft security official what she -- what she is most afraid of in this report and she said that it is the
broader -- the broader trajectory of governments and others moving into the criminal area. take a listen to what she said. >> what worries me the most is seeing this increase in nation state crime and seeing increase in financial crime, or what we call cybercrime as a service. this is our new normal right now. the way we have operated in the last few years, we have to change the way we think about cybersecurity going forward. >> and these state-backed packers, russians are getting much more successful, their success rate, i don't want to throw too many numberses at you but went from 20%, around one-fifth last year, to more than 30% this year, a jump of about half, erica and jim. >> so, alex, president biden warned putin away from cyberattacks in geneva. that was a critical moment. i was there. we watched it happen. it is seemed there was a momentary pause following
geneva, a slowdown in russian-based attacks, but seems they're up again. does that mean the warning failed? >> the russians don't appear to have been phased by that. a lot of experts at the time would have said they didn't expect the russians to really change. the biden administration would tell you it is too soon to tell that they didn't expect the russians to change overnight. but that they hoped to see changes within a year. but they certainly are still at it. as i mentioned, that group backed by russia that carried out the massive solar winds breach, they are still going after governmental and nongovernmental organizations, both in europe and in the united states. and then just last week, we heard from a top cybersecurity official at the national security agency saying that they are seeing evidence that russians are prepositioning themselves to breach critical u.s. infrastructure and that is the major concern and, you know, we have seen breaches against critical infrastructure earlier this year. and that was the big warning
that biden gave to putin back in june, don't go after u.s. critical infrastructure. but as i said, so far, they appear to be unfazed. erica and jim? >> alex mar qquardtmarquardt, a it, thank you. significant developments in the search for brian laundrie. police finding new clues. could this show where he may be hiding out and what gabby petito's family is saying about the investigation next. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high you know how i feel ♪
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a source close to his family telling police they found remnants of a recently used campsite in the reserves in florida. we've seen the sweepling search efforts taking place in the reserve for weeks now. gabby petito's family, meantime, speaking out. they're very clear. they want brian laundrie found alive. >> you know, i just hope he's found, i really do. like, i mean, alive. >> i want to look him in the eyes. >> the more he runs, the more he hides, the less he can say it was a mistake or he had nothing to do with it. >> i'd like to see him in a jail cell for the rest of his life. being that he's an outdoorsman, being in a concrete cell, not smelling trees and stuff. >> being in a cement box. >> jean ka casarez joining us w
the latest. there are new detail about where her body was found. what have they revealed? >> we know nothing about the crime scene. that's part of the working investigation. they're not going to release that information. we also don't have the autopsy report to say exactly what she found. but yesterday the stepfather of gabby petito because he was in wyoming, law enforcement took him to where she was found, and he described that. take a listen. >> her body was found, i guess it would be in front of the tent or if that's what was there or just in front of the fire ring. there was definitely a fire ring right there. >> it wasn't far from the van. it was a five-minute walk-of, you said, or something like that. >> five or ten minutes. >> definitely an isolated area. >> he described he went from a varn over some tributaries and
there was a clearing and there it was, five to ten minutes away. another thing he said that i thought was very important. he said they showed him where her torso was and the direction of her head, and that helped him form the cross. but that shows that there were remains there, that the medical examiner is able to look at and discern to find out possibly the cause of death. very important. now, while all of this is happening in wyoming, in florida, they're continuing search for brian laundrie, and it's the carton reserve. yesterday they were out there, and the family attorney has told cnn that law enforcement is asking the father of brian laundrie to help them in the search. didn't happen yesterday. but a source close to the family tells cnn the reason they want him to hem them is they want to learn where brian liked to go, what the trails were. erica, you started this whole segment with a recent campsite
that they believe they found, and that's what they were looking at, according to the source that spoke to cnn yesterday. what does that mean, a recent campsite? tent? fire ring? what is it? we don't know alt thit this poi >> and how recent is recent, and if the father can help pinpoint where brian liked to go, why is that just coming out now? so many details. thank you. >> thank you. we're staying on top of breaking news. this is lots of it. also what parents have been waiting for. pfizer to get emergency use authorization for its vaccine for children ages 5 to 11 years old. details and where you can get that shot coming up. or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes.
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