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tonight, president biden slamming republicans for refusing to join democrats in raising the nation's debt ceiling, calling their actions hypocritical, dangerous, and disgraceful. congress facing a deadline of october 18th, two weeks from tonight to increase the country's borrowing limit or the nation could default on its debt for the first time in history. facebook whistle-blower frances haugen testifying on capitol hill today saying she is coming forward because she says facebook nose its platforms are used to spread hate and misinformation, but she alleges the company hides that evidence. and is this the end of the covid pandemic? is it the end in sight? new case, hospitalizations and deaths are all trending down. but what about the upcoming holiday season? we're going get some answers from our very own dr. sanjay gupta. first i want to bring in kirsten powers and john avenue len. good evening to both of you. good to see you.
mr. avlon, you are first. the company is facing its first default. republicans know this could be catastrophic, but they're still refusing to blink. do they care what this could do to the country, or do you think is all about making democrats look bad? >> well, as mitch mcconnell said in the previous debt ceiling and crisis, this is a hostage they're willing to ransom. but that of course is a very dangerous game by its nature. here we are tricycling towards a fiscal cliff yet again. default would be disastrous not just to our economy, but the world economy because we're the world's reserve currency. we're the only major industrialized nation in the world that does this to ourselves. this is a self-inflicted crisis. we need to get rid of the debt ceiling. we've raised the debt ceiling 31 times under republican presidents since 1980. mitch mcconnell has voted for debt ceiling increases dramatically under the debt. this is designed to pay for things the republican congress already allocated under president trump.
so stop this gamesmanship, stop holding the american economy hostage for partisan political games. >> kirsten, we talked about it before. i think the term you liked to use is owning the libs. that's what most republicans are doing. we're talking about paying bills, as john just pointed out, that have already been approved to be spent. and this isn'is maisn't mainly december debt -- or i said that wrong. it is mainly trump's debt that they're refusing to pay. >> yeah, but for the bottom line for them, they don't want to do anything that could possibly be helpful to joe biden, even if it's in the country's best interests. instead, they're willing to put us on this collision course with financial wreckage. and this in light of the fact that we've had this really awful period in our history where
obviously it's been terrible because of all the people that have died, it's also been very difficult financially for a lot of people. and the economy took a huge hit from it. so the idea that you would just be toying around with the economy and toying around with raising the debt limit to score political points is pretty outrageous. >> john, president biden is calling republicans, he says they're hypocritical and dangerous for not helping to raise the debt ceiling. this could pass with just democratic votes if the filibuster wasn't in the ways. is this another problem that could have been avoided? i see you shaking your finger at it. >> that's the key point, the whole deal. mitch mcconnell is here saying look, democrats control the white house and both houses of congress. joe biden voted against the debt ceiling in 2006. but there is a world of difference against voting against the debt ceiling which
is not a stand of fiscal responsibility. it's things the congress has already voted to spend, and filibustering it. which requires getting 10 republican votes. and in this circumstance, that's virtually mission impossible unless they back down. we've had democratic senates raise the debt ceiling for republican presidents, including for president trump. so this is hypocritical. it is dangerous. and it's not remotely normal. don't get fooled into thinking it is. >> kirsten, we're not just talking about the debt ceiling here, the debt ceiling standoff. biden's entire agenda is in jeopardy tonight. biden told house progressives that the cost of the social safety met package needs to come down between 1.9 and $2.2 trillion. do you think they're going get on board with this? >> you know, have i been an optimist throughout this entire situation, and i do think that they are going to get to that number. >> i thought you were going say except for tonight.
>> no, i know. i don't believe that progressives really have ever thought or think that the number is going to be 3.5. so they understand that the number is going to have to come down. and i do believe that everybody recognizes whether it's the moderates, whether it's the progressives, they recognize the stakes here, and the stakes are huge. the stakes are huge for the country, and the stakes are huge for joe biden. in terms of being able to get things done because, you know, if things go the way people think they're going go in the midterms, this could be his own chance. >> president biden is admitting, john, that this hinges on two people, and we know we're talking about senators manchin and sinema. is it a smart strategy to single them out like this? excuse me. i can't get my words straight tonight. to single them both out? >> well, that's where the problem is right now.
i mean, look, manchin we now know laid out a pretty clear outline of his proposals to senator sinema in july. going to a foot doctor and having a meeting with her donors. at this point you've got to say what you're in favor of. if the white house is signaling they're going to reduce this bill by over a trillion, that should be a big win if their concerns are actually fiscal responsibility. if they're matters of actual policy, let's hear it. let's hear it in public and then find a way to raise it together. biden is being patient because he realizes that process doesn't matter in the eyes of history. getting the ball down the field and getting a big bill passed does. the window is shrinking, though. this can't be done forever. those people, particularly kyrsten sinema, frankly.
>> on "snl" this weekend, wow, they got them down. thank you. i appreciate it. i want to turn out to the controversy over facebook with cnn correspondent donie o'sullivan and legal and national security analyst r. donie, testifying before congress tomorrow, you've been going through her prepared testimony. what can we expect? >> yeah, don, she says very clearly that she knows that a trillion dollar company like facebook, she says in her words could destroy her. they could try and totally discredit all the accusations that she is leveling against them. but what chevrolets out i think quite eloquently in their opening statement, which we'll hear tomorrow morning is really this idea that the idea that facebook is putting out to the world, that to have a platform where you upload photos and
where you share stories and stay in touch with your family, that you have that platform for free, that you have to also, you know, possibly be exposed to misinformation and hate and everything else that we know son facebook and instagram. and she is making the point pretty clearly that that doesn't have to be the case, that facebook is making choices here, and the choice she says is that they're choosing profit over safety. >> donie, facebook and other sites it owns, instagram and whatsapp were all offline for almost six hours today. it was really quiet. i kind of enjoyed it, don't tell anybody, for six hours today. it was a mess that impacted billions of users worldwide. is this just a massive coincidence that this happened hours after this was bombshell interview? >> that certainly seems to be what facebook is suggesting. i wanted to show you a statement they've just released in the past few minutes. i'll read it slowly so we might try and understand it. it is a lot of technical jargon.
they're saying that their engineering teams learned configuration changes on the backbone that coordinate traffic between our data center caused issues that interrupted communication. basically, what they're saying there is that facebook's computers in their data centers, some form of setting change, configuration change stopped these computers from being able to communicate effectively with each other, and that is what caused the outage. so they're saying here it seems -- they're saying it's a glitch, not an attack. but still, they are being pretty slim on the details. one thing they did stress in this statement is that so far they have no evidence that any user data was exposed. but you're right, don, the timing of this is very interesting, and it will of course -- the company will have to investigate it. >> it was interesting. i think one of the most interesting posts i saw
afterwards was instagram/facebook, hurry up and come back up because i'm not an influence other a model unless you're up. i thought about how the world changed. there are people who simply made their living on being facebook and instagram influencers and models and actors and promoters. it's interesting. >> i had no place to post my selfies for the first six hour. >> or your food. >> too much. >> asha, here is part of frances haugen, what she said on "60 minutes" last night. >> one of the consequences of how facebook is picking out that content today is it is optimizing for content that gets engagement, a reaction. but its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. >> misinformation, angry content. >> yeah. >> is enticing to people. >> it's very enticing. >> and it keeps them on the platform. >> yes.
facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site, they'll click on less ads, they'll make less money. >> interesting. so asha, in your experience, does this result in the kind of echo chamber where people can easily be recruited if they are being fed a steady diet of hate and anger and what they might initially click on? >> yes, don. we have seen that in spades with the covid misinformation, which was a lot of the top performing posts on facebook's site. but the bigger issue here is what this whistle-blower is sc describing, what it's currently designed, to maximize engagement, to maximize growth is really incompatible with democracy. democracy requires deliberation. it requires evidence-based argument, reasoned debate, reaching con sensensus on share
reality. what facebook wants its users to be in is in a perpetual state of outrage and division. and that's how they make their money. and they also need their base to believe, their user base to believe that is actually what reality is. so they project that out into the world. so i think we're facing kind of a choice here in terms of what values do we want and can we get facebook, if not on their own through regulation, to maximize democratic values rather than their own profit. >> listen, we could speak on and on and on about this. it's fascinating. but our time is up for now, for now. we'll talk more. thank you, both. i appreciate it. i want to bring in cnn global affairs analyst max boot. max, hello to you. thank you so much for joining us this evening. so let's talk about the politics of what we've been discussing in the segment before this one as
well. you a piece titled "the gop has become the stupid party and proud of it." proud of being stupid. what is that all about? talk to me about that. >> well, this was sort of inspired by a press release that lauren boebert of colorado sent out a couple of weeks ago calling on congress to imeach biden, in giant letters across the top. i thought it was kind of symbolic where the gop is today, both in the combination of political fanaticism and extreme partisanship, but also in this content not just for political norms, but for spelling norms and kind of basic rules of grammar. this is something that donald trump perfected where his twitter feed when he had one was notorious not just for all sorts of lies, but really stupid, obvious misspellings.
people thought he was putting that in there on purpose because he was signaling contempt for elites who care about things like spelling. i mean, on one level, this is just absurd and laughable. but there is a serious point here, don, which is when i was growing up in the 1980s, the republican party actually had a reputation as the party of ideas. and under donald trump's leadership, it's really reclaimed an old eruption as being the stupid party. and for a lot of republicans and populists in the republican ranks, that's not something that they're ashamed about. that's not something that they're embarrassed about it. they're proud of being known as the stupid party because they're signaling contempt for education, for elites, for knowledge that they think they're standing up to interest common man by just uttering inane and ignorant opinions. and that's a very dangerous position for one of the two major parties to be. in. >> well, that's like people who wrote on twitter -- i think it was -- maybe it was facebook, "don lemon, your, yo-oy-o-u-r, .
>> i get those all the time. you expect like that like random trolls or random people out there. examples in my column, it's all members of congress who are saying this stuff, all this nonsense like louie gohmert like birds burning up over solar panels or marjorie taylor greene who says she doesn't believe in evolution, but does believe in jewish space aliens. >> can i play some examples for you? ron johnson, first up. let's hear. >> we do not have an fda-approved vaccine being administered in the u.s. >> could you ever get behind a vaccine mandate for everybody? >> no, not unless there is some incredibly deadly disease. i mean, much higher infection mortality rates we have with covid. >> so 700,000 americans have died from covid. there is also a elise stefanik
praising medicare, adding to safeguard our future, we must reject socialist health care schemes. how does that harvard grad not see the contradiction here? >> exactly. this is a common republican trope. let's protect medicare from socialist health care. wait a s.e.c. who provides medicare? it's amazing they can't add up one and one. this is not rocket science here, or like ron johnson claiming that covid, which has only killed 700,000 people, making it the worst pandemic of the century, that's not serious enough to have vaccinations? again, at some level, this is just absurd and laughable and ridiculous. but this is serious. these people actually have power. >> yeah. and i do have marco rubio calling biden's economic plan marxism. some of these lawmakers have very impressive degrees in academic accomplishments. is this all just an act or are they really just that stupid?
i don't know. >> i think for some people it is an act. you have to believe elise stefanik actually knows better because she actually went to harvard. a lot of them it's not an act. >> marco rubio is an educated man as well. many of them are. >> he should know better. at some point, it really doesn't matter. do they know better? are they actually as dumb as they appear or are they just acting dumb? even if they're just acting dumb, that tells you something about who they're appealing to, what the republican party is about when even the brighter lights have to pretend to be dim bulbs. i mean, that itself is a fairly damning commentary on the state of the republican party today. >> max boot, the new piece is titled "the gop has become the stupid party and proud of it." thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. one single state is leaving billions of covid relief on the table, and students will be the ones to suffer. plus, president biden has just about had wit the republicans refusing to do their jobs and pay america's debt,
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they're leaving $2.3 billion on the table. florida the only state in the entire country to not apply for a third round of funding from president biden's american rescue plan. and now the education department is asking why the state missed multiple deadlines and if they want the money. joining me is the president of the broward teachers union, the second largest school district in florida. thank you for joining us. i pronounce this because i know some are fusco and some are fusco. i'm not sure how you say yours. >> it's either way, but everyone calls me fusco. how you doing tonight, don? thank you.
>> thank you. i'm glad you clarified that. i have a friend joe fusco but you are fusco. thank you. is governor desantis playing politics with your students' futures? >> yeah, he is extremely reckless. it's definitely politics. he is a governor that has come out real clearly that he is planning on running in 2022 against biden. so there is some conversations that are happening. is this a way to say that i'm just going to keep pulling back and doing my own thing to show that i can take charge and have total power. so that's one piece. and the other piece is that, you know, he's just, you know, looking to defund public schools. you're not looking to come up with a plan, meet a deadline for the hundreds of thousands of students across the state of florida that are in public schools that need to have, you know, lots of resources and actual physical bodies in the
schools to take care of our students. it says a lot. it's just wrong. >> listen, this is how the governor responded to the education department's request for a funding plan, and i quote here. at this time, no district has articulated a need for funding that cannot be met with currently available resources. whenever this may change in the future, the state of florida will coordinate with the useoe to ensure florida students and educators have all the resources they need. how would you like to respond to the governor? >> i just cannot believe that no district has reached out and said said that they need every dime to meet the needs of so many things that have just happened over this whole covid era. it's just unbelievable. i would like to see proof. and i'm going to personally ask our own district tomorrow when i'm down at school board headquarters for a board
workshop and a press conference that we're having so i can clearly ask i know we're always saying that we're underfunded and every dime will definitely help with the resources. and so many different things have happened in just broward school district alone where i see it in our schools. i see it with not enough bus driver, not enough teacher assistance, not enough teacher, not enough guidance counselors, not enough social workers, not enough family counselors. all these needs that need to meet our students that have been home, going through covid, that their social and emotional component, you know, fill in that achievement gap, our schools that need better air quality, hvac systems, roofs. all these things need to be done for him to say no district has reached out, it's really something that's unbelievable. >> and particularly those that need help, the underserved communities, right? this could help schools in underserved communities that might not have the funds to make
pandemic-related improvements, right? there is extra support programs. >> that itself has been a plan of broward county public schools has put in motion of all of these extra wrap around and support services to meet the needs of our students that need to fill in those gaps, which is let's start with the social and emotional piece. that in itself, reaching out to our students that we're trying to figure out how to get back physically into schools and making sure that they are safe. all of these little components of the resources, you know, besides having actual physical resources, we need actual bodies there. in our schools, which we are seeing all around in such need of every single person and a different department, that we just, you know, struggling to get. >> well, anna fusco, thank you so much. best of luck to you. and we appreciate your appearing on the program.
>> well, thank you. and i home ron desantis changes his mind and releases the plan so we can get the money. thank you. >> a looming economic catastrophe staring america right in the face as republicans refuse to budge on raising the debt ceiling. president biden telling the golbarnezhad get out of the.
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president biden is slamming republicans for refusing to join democrats in raising the debt ceiling. he is calling their actions hypocritical, dangerous and disgraceful. he is also accusing them of playing russian roulette with the economy. congress facing a deadline two weeks from tonight to increase the country's borrowing limit or the nation could default on its debt for the first time in history. so let's discuss now. paul krugman is here. he is the columnist for "the new york times" who is also the author of "arguing with zombies." paul, good evening. thank you for doing this. i appreciate you doing this. >> good evening. >> so let's talk about the president, how he is slamming republicans over the debt ceiling and saying this, they won't talk. here it is. >> the media is headed to crash into our economy. democrats are willing to do all the work stopping it. republicans just have to let us do our job. just get out of the way. if you don't want to help save the country, get out of the way.
>> so, paul, if the u.s. defaults on our bills because, as you have put it, republicans are committing political sab sabotage, what's going happen to our economy and americans' pocketbooks, for that matter? >> well, it's kind of scary. actually, of course, nobody knows. but it's not just that the u.s. government suddenly finds itself without enough cash to pay its bills. the dollar is special. u.s. government debt is special. the whole world financial system is built on using u.s. treasury bills as collateral. all of the sudden, you have taken the world's safest asset and made it, you know, not something that is meeting its obligations. so nobody really knows. it is definitely a very scary prospect. >> you know, cnn is learning that president biden told -- today told -- excuse me, progressives that the social safety net package needs to come down between 1.9 and $2.2 trillion. now you really wrote -- i've been wanting to speak the you
about this column -- how the progressive wing is advancing popular policies while the conservative wing is willing to risk blowing up the president's agenda. and you describe it as biden versus a rip van winkle caucus. you say democratic moderates need to wake up. talk to me about that, paul. >> yeah, there is still a group -- moderates, i hate that term. basically, if there is a good term for it, it's the corporate wing of the party, the ones who are listening to the u.s. chamber of commerce instead of the public. but they're acting as if it's still the 1990s when you could make deals with republicans, when we were just not at all in this kind of situation. but they're also acting as if the kinds of things that people believed in the 1990s, low taxes lead to higher growth, government is bad, the era of big government is over were still relevant. and at this point, you know, what the progressives are asking
for, even the full $3.5 trillion is not a huge thing. it's 1.2% of gdp over the next decade. it's a medium-sized initiative of stuff that has lots of good economic false saying that it's actually going to be highly productive. so saying we need to scale this back, that we need to kind of think that it's 1993 again is -- or 1999 again, that's our really -- where have these people been for the past 20 years? >> well, how do you see this -- does this correct itself? i mean, what should the president do or the democratic party or what should happen in order to correct this? >> well, you know, it is this crazy thing where the democrats have a zero margin. they have to have every single senator. so we're down to kind of, you know, analyzing the psychology of sinemanchin.
as some of my friends call it. you definitely don't what the corporate wing of the party wants to do is have steel and concrete and nothing else. and that's not acceptable. that's a total failure, because the fact is, it's the human investments that are the thing that will do the most good. and if it falls short, progressives originally wanted $6 trillion. if it ends up being less than 3.5, i'll be unhappy. but at least let it be significant. >> paul krugman, always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> okay. take care. positive signs in the fight against covid. we on the other side of what could be the last major spike? dr. sanjay gupta joins me next.
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we're on the road to recovery in our fight against covid. cases are down almost 35% from a month ago. hospitalizations down around 30% for the month, and deaths done almost 10% from a week ago. so i'm going to discuss now with cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta, also the author of the new book, "world war c: lessons from the covid pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." dr. gupta, thank you so much. look, i hope i'm not ahead of
myself when i said we're on the road to recovery. it was a brutal summer, as we know. some parts of the country on the covid front. but now cases, hospitalizations, deaths all trending down. is the end of this pandemic in sight? or i don't know, what about the upcoming holidays? >> i think it could be in sight. and you know, i've been very cautious. i think we've got to be humble here, don. we've got look at the positive trend lines and read into them. what i've been doing throughout this pandemic is trying to look at what's happening here, what's happening around the world, what's even happened historically. and you're right. people say hey, weather is going to get cooler and dryer, and that's when the respiratory viruses like to spread. to that point, let me show you 2009 what happened. what you see at that point is there is a surge, that big second peak is right now. that's october of 2009. and then the numbers go down as we're seeing it happen now. and they stay down. that's what happened at this point. if you go back even further, more than 100 years to the
1918-1919 flu pandemic, again, the biggest surge of the pandemic, there were really three or four different waves there. but the biggest one was right about now. and then it came down. and then you get a little surge again going into the spring the following year. but for the most part, this was the worst of it in both those pandemics previously. part of it i think don, you have people vaccinated. and part of it also is it's such a contagious virus that a lot of people have been exposed to this and develop some natural immunity. we don't know how long that natural immunity last, and that's going to be a big question mark in terms of future surges. for right now, as you point out, all the trend line looks pretty favorable. >> sanjay is out with a new book, i told you it was coming. it's called "world war c: lessons from the covid pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." i'll let you in on a little secret. it's supposed to come out tomorrow, but i found a book seller who put it out early against sanjay's wishes, but
what are you going to do? i won't say what it was. what was the inspiration? >> you know, don, it's funny. doing television, i think the amount of information and knowledge that i'm trying to absorb even to do a few minutes with you every night is probably twentyfold to one. coy show you all these papers. i've just been taking these ♪s and doing all these things, and i felt like there was so many lessons that i had learned. i talked to scientists all over the world. and the thing that kept coming up over and over again is that it is possible to essentially make yourself pandemic proof. emerging pathogens, they're going to keep happening, these emerging viruses. but the idea they turn into a pandemic, it's very much within our control. we kind of knew that. but some of the ways we do that are surprising, even when it comes to our own individual health. 80% of your immunity, if i say don, you need to improve your immunity. what does that even mean? how would you do it? 80% of your immunity is in your
gut. it's also a big source of your serotonin, by the way, your mood, very related to your gut. how do you transform your body into one that can better fight this virus, or at least not get so sick from it? also, don, let me show you, in the united states, we know that citizens here are much more likely to have the risk factors that set them up for severe disease, whether it be obesity, whether it be diabetes, whether it be chronic kidney disease, all these types of things. they are the diseases of affluence. they happen in weathy countries. wealthy countries got hit hard, don, by this pandemic. usually you think of a new infection, a new outbreak you think poorly developed countries are going to be hit harder. not the case here. it was almost the reverse. why? part of it is what you see on the screen there. so the idea that we could come better prepared even for the next few months, but also for the next several years and decades i think is very much within our power. and i wanted to have a represcription on thou get there. >> listen, there are a lot of factors like we need to take
care of our obesity problem in this country, which is a contributing factor. i'm sure you will agree. i want to ask you this, though, sanjay, because you're talking about your gut, when you're talking about your gut, you also specifically touch on the fans of microbiome. is that what you're talking about? >> the microbiome, yeah. the microbiome that is this sort of universe of organisms that live inside our gut and are very responsible for our immunity and for frankly many functions. they call it the second brain in the body. and i just -- i have always known about this. i wasn't taught in medical school, but i learned it on my own over the last decade or so, and it's very interesting, again, going to this idea that what you -- i'm going exaggerate a little bit. but what you had for breakfast this morning could influence how much you be affected by the disease tonight because of your microbiome. it is that specific. and there are ways to really put yourself in the best possible position not only to help diminish some of those diseases
you just saw on the screen, but to make it less likely you're going get sick of covid if you get it or a future pathogen. that part is really striking. again, there are countries around the world, just to show you, south korea versus the united states, i don't know if we have this. i always use this example because patients were diagnosed -- the first patients were diagnosed on the same day. >> it's up on the screen now. >> don, look at that. blue is south korea. red is us. i mean, they're 1/6 the size of us, but how do you explain that? we're all human beings. what did they do so different that we have 43 million confirmed cases in the united states and they had 300,000? there is something there. there are real lessons, and they're going to be important, because, again, there will be more emerging pathogens. these viruses keep jumping into humans. they don't have to turn into pandemics. we can be the blue line next time around. and that's why i really wanted to write the book. >> well, i can't wait to read it. i had the opportunity to get it. i didn't. there it is on the screen.
i said hey, this book doesn't come out until next week. >> thought it was bootleg. >> i thought was a bootleg so i didn't buy it. >> i'll send it to you. >> don't worry about it. i'm going buy it. "world war c: lessons from the covid pandemic." buy it i'll silent. >> thanks, sanjay. we appreciate it. >> thanks, don. >> and we'll be right back. do i need to pretreat my laundry? nope! with tide pods, you don't need to worry. the pre-treaters are built in. tide pods dissolve even when the water is freezing. nice! if it's got to be clean, it's got to be tide.
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tonight a murder case in oregon sparking outrage. a black man shot to death after allegedly complimenting a white man's girlfriend. the suspect facing six charges including murder. here's cnn's omar jimenez. >> reporter: familiar chants for what some see as a familiar story. this time in bend, oregon. a black man barry washington jr. shot and killed allegedly after complimenting a white woman. no evidence of the compliments being inappropriate according to the attorney general saying washington confronted by the woman's boyfriend ian cranston. >> he said some words to mr. washington. mr. washington said words back. there's pushing, some jostling. some punching thrown. but then it calmed down. it was not going to get out of
hand and then mr. cranston pulled a gun out and shot and killed mr. washington. >> reporter: the attorney disputed that account and wrote to cnn in part before ian cranston ever drew the weapon barry washington had assaulted him without provocation resulting in head injuries that required the police to take mr. cranston to the hospital where a brain scan and other procedures had to be performed. cranston was initially arrested on second-degree manslaughter and released on bail before a grand jury returned an indictment that added murder, first-degree manslaughter, first-degree assault and unlawful use of a weapon. friday a judge ordered him held without bail. district attorney hum mel has said this was a homicide with no justification. meanwhile a community and family is left looking for answers as race is hard to ignore. >> we just want justice the right way like the rest of the
world would if their loved one killed in cold blood. >> reporter: it is a dynamic not lost on the district attorney. >> there's a reckoning with race. that needs to happen in central oregon. and it needs to happen now. justice will be done in this case. >> reporter: after the i remember charge was filed cranston wrote in part it's important his family feels the community saw barry, we see them and believe barry's life, their lives and the lives of all black people matter but not seeking a hate crime charge citing there isn't enough evidence. cranston has a plea hearing set for early december. omar giminez, cnn. >> thank you so much. thank you for watching. our coverage continues.
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good evening. the lawyer for facebook whistle-blower frances haugen joins us tonight on the eve of her testimony before senate subcommittee. and perhaps it was just a coincidence but today, the world's largest social network went down. facebook and facebook-owned instagram and whatsapp were all unreachable for much of the day. prompting one twitter user to write half jokingly, instagram and facebook are currently not working as our democracy, society, and a healthy sense of self. except, it's no joke according to the whistle-blower in question. former facebook employee, frances haugen, who revealed herself last night on cbs news's "60 minutes." >> when we live in an information environment that is full of angry, hateful, polarizing content, it erodes our civic trust. it erodes our faith in each other. it erodes our ability to want to care for each other.