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restored communications after months of silence. we're live in seoul with the latest. live from cnn center, this is "cnn newsroom" with rosemary church . u.s. president joe biden has a busy week ahead. on tuesday he heads to michigan to rally support for a pair of multi-trillion dollar bills for his agenda. the vote on the bipartisan infrastructure deal which was delayed twice last week has now been pushed back to the end of the month and progressive democrats insist it will not pass unless they get the even larger spending bill across the finish line as well.
and here's where things stand right now. the white house is offering a compromise with a number of just more than $2 trillion. there's no indication yet if moderates, such as joe manchin, are willing to go that high or if progressives will agree to that number either. cnn's suzanne malveaux has the details. >> reporter: house speaker nancy pelosi pushing pause now issuing a new deadline of october 31st for a vote for the bipartisan infrastructure bill. she said in a dear colleague letter issued on saturday, very blunt language that they did not have the support, that they needed more time, more democrats to get on to vote for the infrastructure bill along with the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package, a bigger spending package that the president is pushing forward. and despite multiple visits from
the president with these groups of moderates and progressives, they were not able to come up with a figure that they could agree on. we heard from senator joe manchin, a moderate, saying $1.5 trillion is the figure he's looking at. the chair says that's not even close. >> that's too small. it's going to be somewhere between 1.5 to 3.5 and i think the white house is working on that right now. remember, what we want to deliver is child care, paid leave, climate. >> reporter: there's real frustration among the moderate democrats like kyrsten sinema who believes this undermines the republican momentum for the infrastructure bill. there are republicans who say, yes, that might in fact be the case. they are using this division within the democratic party to make a case that the party is incompetent. they're also saying, too, that
they have leverage that perhaps some of these republicans will withdraw their support for that bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> when that bipartisan bill passed a 50-50 senate it had 69 votes. it was a lot of momentum on its side. in any kind of a normal world that would have been signed into law by the president. this was two months ago. >> while progressive democrats say they're reticent to sign it into law, they say they'd rather talk about the issues, the priorities, the programs they'd like to fund first but they are in a situation where that might actually take more time and be more difficult than talking about dollars and sense. suzanne malveaux, cnn at the capitol. earlier i asked political analyst michael genovese about the potential impact on president biden's agenda and here's his response. >> this is the big test for
president biden. he sold himself during the campaign as a man who has experience and can work with congress so this is the big test. he's fighting a battle on three different fronts. first front is on republicans. that's lost so he's not focusing on that. the real bal battle is within t democratic. moderates want less spending, the progressives want more. biden has been wavering. this is a big test for him. there are two very sweeping proposals. one is the big infrastructure bill. the other is the big sort of family care bill. it's a build and care agenda. can he get that through? he needs to get one he needs to get two to maintain his political position. biden will move in the position that will gain him enough votes. vote counting is going to be the key here. he needs to close a deal. he's got a reservoir of goodwill still with the american public but his popularity is declining.
he has to prove he's a winner, that he can close the deal. if you compare trump to biden, i mean, trump knew what mack developly said that the prince or the leader, it's better to be more feared than love. people feared donald trump. they do not fear biden so he has to show the democrats that he can play hard ball instead of just playing the nice old uncle or the great warm spirited grandfather. trump was the angry uncle. biden is the happy grandfather. biden needs to show that he can get tough as well. the cdc has released new guidelines for the kwupcoming holidays. the safest thing to do is get vaccinated. they're encouraging people to mask up with areas of high transmission rates and consider virtual celebrations rather than
in person gatherings. in new york city public school employees who have not been vaccinated won't be allowed back in the door starting today. under the district's new policy, unvaccinated employees could be placed on unpaid leave until next september. some teachers are challenging the policy in court but on friday they failed to convince the u.s. supreme court to halt enforcement while the case plays out. here as some good news on the covid front. dr. anthony fauci said sunday that the u.s. appears to be turning the corner with the latest surge. new cases and hospital admissions are declining across much of the country but he warned americans against getting too complacent saying millions more still need to get vac sin nated. cnn's palo san bedoval has more >> reporter: in order to keep hospitalization and infection numbers down, more people need
to get vaccinated. that's the word from the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci. the united states surpassed 700,000 deaths. dr. anthony fauci said more needs to be done in terms of vaccination efforts. the latest cdc number showing 56% of americans are fully protected right now against the virus through a vaccine. he also expressed concern that with the -- a promise of a new covid treatment, many unvaccinated americans may bypass getting vaccinated. fauci saying that is not a good idea. >> it is never okay to get infected. you heard the numbers. it decreased the risk of this pill, of hospitalizations and deaths. you know the way to resist it 100%? don't get infected.
>> reporter: mirerk says it can cut the number in half. paulo sandoval, cnn, new york. dr. jorge rodriguez is a board certified internal medicine specialist and viral researcher. thank you for joining us and for all that you do. >> thank you. my pleasure always. >> we are starting to see covid infections, hospitalizations and deaths coming down although we're still losing far too many americans each day to this virus. but does this signal the end or do we have to be more cautious? >> i absolutely do not think it signals the beginning of the end. we may be in the middle. what it signals is we are on the
downswing here of this latest surge, this delta surge but we're still getting over 100,000 infections a day and right now the tide is higher than last year. if we get another surge in the winter, it could be bad. like we have spoken about before, we can't get over confident. every time we could and we put our guard down, we let the tiger in the door and we get another surge with another variant. yes, things are better but they're still far from over. >> exactly. we can be cautiously optimistic perhaps. now of course there's word that merck has put out or certainly prepared this antiviral bill that will stop covid in its tracks and could be ready by christmas. could. we don't know the timing. maybe before that. there are two other covid pills on the horizon.
dr. anthony fauci calls this a game changer. do you agree? do you worry those who refuse to get vaccinated will fall back on the pill once it's available? >> i'm afraid, yes, that will happen. dr. fauci and i both come from the hiv arena a couple of decades ago and we've done research in that. this is similar to that. these are medications that can control the worsening of the virus once you have it. if you start getting the beginnings of covid, you if you treat it within five days you could decrease the risk of going to the hospital or dieing by 50%. that's very significant but nothing, nothing takes the place of getting infected, which is what a vaccine does. is it a game changer? it absolutely might be. is it the cure? it absolutely is not. >> number one, get vaccinated.
we should have this pill available as a backup there after the fact. so, doctor, governor gavin newsom said it will add this to the vaccinations required for in school return. do you think other states will follow? >> i truly hope so. people really need to look at this for what it is, which is a life threatening pandemic. we require vaccinations against measles, against mumps. this is deadlier than that so i don't think this impedes anybody's freedom. we need to be objective. what it does, it allows you the freedom to live longer, to live a natural life especially if you're a child to be able to congregate with other children, to have fun. this doesn't impede freedom, in
my view, it gives freedom. i hope it is implemented in other states. >> doctor, with mandates like this, we know of course that some people who oppose getting vaccinated will seek exemptions. how big a threat do you think religious and health exemptions pose when it comes to trying to end this pandemic or are we talking about a very small number here? >> i think we're talking about a small number. at the end of the day people who want to get vaccinated will get vaccinated. the major airlines, .0 -- .4%, only .4% of the people employed of the 67,000 people employed by a major airline refuse to get vaccinated. i think when the rubber hits the road most people want to stay healthy. most people want to keep their jobs and most people want to get
the economy moving and that's what getting vaccinated will allow us to do. >> we have learned, of course, that mandates do work. we're seeing it. we're seeing it in these various companies. dr. jorge rodriguez, thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. a facebook whistle-blower is speaking out publicly accusing the company of placing profit over public good. fr franceshalgoran says they know the platforms are used to spread hate, violence and misinformation. during an interview with "60 minutes" halgoran said they are hiding the evidence. brian stelter has more on what she's saying and facebook's response. >> reporter: yes, this is a big moment for facebook and the social networking world more broadly as a whistle-blower
comes forward to say what the algorithms are doing to our brains and minds on a daily basis. this employee's name is frances halgin. she says the longer she spent at the company, the more concerned she was about the company's failures. she calls out the algorithm in particular and how it prioritizes profits, facebook's profits over public safety. here's a part of what she said on "60 minutes." >> one of the consequences of how facebook is picking out that content today is sts optimizing for content that gets engagement, a reaction but its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. >> misinformation, angry content is enticing to people. >> very enticing. >> keeps them on the platform? >> yes. facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be
safer, people will spend less time on the site, click on less ads and make less money. >> reporter: she leaked to the wall street journal anonymously sharing documents with internal research from facebook showing how the company is in some cases well aware of the problems its platforms cause. then she gave that "60 minutes" interview. on tuesday she'll be testifying to the united states senate. the "60 minutes" interview is a preview. i was struck about facebook's impact. the version of facebook that exists today is tearing our societies apart and causing ethnic violence around the world. facebook says no platform is perfect but it tries exceedingly hard to stamp out hate speech and misinformation. it has tens of thousands of staffers working to make the platforms healthy and strong and says advertisers don't want to be associated with a toxic environment so it's in
facebook's interest to clean up the property. look, time and time again we have seen facebook fall short of its own expectations, its own goals and haugen said she had seen so much she had to blow the whistle. her lawyers have filed complaints for the fcc trying to get the government involved. back to you. facebook has responded to the "60 minutes" report. a spokeswoman for the company says every day our teams have to balance protecting the ability of billions of people to express themselves openly with the need to keep our platform a safe and positive place. we continue to make significant improvements to tackle the spread of misinformation and harmful content. to suggest we encourage bad content and do nothing is just not true. after months of dead air, north korea reopens hotlines with south korea, but if talks are to continue, the north says the south has some work to do.
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welcome back, everyone. north korea has reopened communications with south korea after cutting ties early this year. south korea's unification ministry confirms north korea responded on a hotline early monday morning. the link has been reactivated. north korean leader kim jong-un vowed to restore the hotlines with the south during a speech last week. i'm joined now by paula hancocks in seoul, south korea. so, paula, what is the significance of all of this? how long might these lines of communication remain open given what has happened in the past? >> reporter: it's a good question, rosemary. it's an impossible one to answer, i'm' frayed. it is certainly the case that these hotlines have been used by north korea in the past to show their displeasure of something south korea has done.
they were functioning then in june of last year they were cut off because they were unhappy about propaganda booms. then in july of this year they were reinstated an there was much optimism along with some revelations that the leaders of the two koreas had actually been exchanging letters for a few months but then that only lasted a matter of days before north korea cut the lines off again because the u.s. and south korea had joint military drills. so there is optimism from seoul. they welcome the fact that these have been reinstated but no one knows how long they will actually last. we heard from the south korean side what their official said on the line. he said, quote, it's been a while and i'm glad that the communication line has been restored like this. i hope that the interkorean relations can develop into a new era as the communication line
has been restored. now this was first talked about by north korean leader kim jong-un himself last week saying that he would be open to reinstating the lines. we've also been hearing from pyongyang that they want south korea to abandon, quote, double standards and elusion. they say south korea has been increasing its own weaponry testing and submarine launch ballistic missile in recent months which has angered north korea. what pyongyang is saying to seoul is we could increase the relations between the two koreas, things could improve. there's also been a suggestion that there could even be another summit between the leaders but south korea needs to change its ways and needs to do what north korea wants it to.
rosemary? >> cnn's paula hancocks joining us live from seoul. many thanks as always. japan has a new prime minister after a special session of parliament that concluded a few hours as. fumio kishida takes the reins. the 64-year-old kishida emerged after a hot election last week. japan's new prime minister faces many challenges. what does he plan to do when it comes to the economy, the pandemic and north korea specifically? >> reporter: exactly. a tough set of issues for him. he campaigned on narrowing the income gap as well as spending billions of dollars in an aggressive stimulus package to boost the economy. his first priority is going to
include trying to keep covid-19 cases low. japan has dealt with a series of waves of covid-19 and is only finally coming out of these long lasting covid-19 restrictions and state of emergencies. on foreign policy he faces increasing risks for north korea and china. he's expected to work with allies. i've been talking to business leaders and they're going to be closely watching how he and a half have i gates this delicate balance with china since it is the key economic partner but also they're growing increasingly concerned about beijing's military assertiveness. i spoke to the outgoing prime minister. these were his words about kishida. >> there are so many complicated issues and he's not the strongest leader in the ruling
party of ldp so i'm concerned about the revolving prime minister system. >> reporter: so the big question really is how long can kishida hang on to his power. prior to shinzo abe which was japan's longest prime minister, they had a revolving door. he's being the face of the ruling liberal democratic party. while the ldp is expected to maintain the dominance, the risk is the party could weaken if he can't excite voters. he was not the popular choice to be japan's next prime minister. they had favored a political maverick while kishida is
another boring democrat. >> see what happens. celina wang brings the latest live from tokyo. many thanks. california may have a new environmental disaster on its hands after an oil spill near los angeles. what we're learning about an investigation into that spill, that's coming up. plus, the military is getting behind the wheel to help address the fuel crisis in the u.k. but if there's a shortage of truck drivers, could this happen again? we'll have a live report from london. back in just a moment. [♪] if you're only using facial moisturizer in the morning, did you know, the best time for skin renewal is at night? olay retinol24 renews millions of surface skin cells while you sleep. wake up to smoother, younger-looking skin with olay retinol24.
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right here, you can see the slick collecting. living in orange county, it's crazy. >> the smell is pretty strong. we can even smell it out in the parking lot. so, yeah, it smells bad. >> reaction there from residents following a major oil spill just off the coast of southern california. thousands of barrels of oil have poured into the pacific ocean after a leak in a pipeline was discovered on saturday. officials say the leak appears to have stopped but the threat to areas near los angeles is not over yet. let's bring inin pedram javaher. where is all of this oil going? >> it's made its way to the coastal communities unfortunately.
newport beach. about 30 miles south of los angeles as we're looking at it. the beach is now dotted with tar in this landscape. first observed on saturday morning spanning out over 8300 acres which is a little bit larger than the size of the city of santa monica to give you a scale of how large it is. once you go in close to southern california we know there are some 23 oil rigs just off shore. some have been decommissioned, some have been there since the 1960s. about nine miles or so away from the coast from huntington beach that is where we have the rig that is titled ellie. there are about four rigs out here, nine miles off shore. they all have names starting with the letter e. show you the polygons and go for a closer perspective. the second one is elly. the red line that's indicative of the pipeline.
they put an end to the leak but the spread of it is what is concerning. this particular oil is post production oil. it's not the same from the crude oil. raw crude was far more dense, far more thick. this is lighter in density, can spread a lot more easily. the currents across this region are conducive to spreading it. the on shore winds can bring it close to the coast. the off shore winds can push it off shore. that will vary over the days. current spill 130,000 gallons. you'll notice over 400,000 gallons spilled in the 1990s. in 1960, that was a record, 3 million gallons. this is a biodiverse area. >> the damage and the loss of life is going to be extensive.
thank you so much. keeping a close eye on that, pedram. starting today the government is deploying the military to deliver fuel to pet troll stations. els it's part of the government's efforts to stabilize the trucking shortage. long lines and empty pumps over the past week. so for more on that we want to go to cnn's nina dos santos. she joins us live from london. the army is helping out by driving the trucks but what about a long-term solution, how's that working out? what's the plan? >> reporter: yeah, that's the big fear here across london and beyond also in manchester where the conservative party is hosting the annual get together conference and boris johnson on the eve of that conference has
acknowledged these type of supply chain crises could last until christmas. that is little comfort for drivers cuing up here right off one of the main arteries west from london to heathrow airport. you can see people are so desperate for petrol, they've got wind of the fact that there might be some coming within the next couple of hours and they're already starting to line up. that's the scene that you're seeing across london in the southeast. across the rest of the country, the main trade body for independent four courts, they've been saying things are starting to ease. there is fuel in the pumps. the real pressure point, as i was saying, appears to be london and the southeast. the main urban and beating part of the u.k. where one in five petrol gas stations remain empty. even though the army is starting to be mobilized to drive these tankers, the reality is that some of these urban areas like
london, very difficult places that require specialist knowledge of how to dispatch tankers and that's why you're seseseng limited splies in places like london. >> nina does santos joining us from london. many thanks. a huge trove of private financial documents reveal how the rich and powerful have kept billions of dollars beyond the reaches of taxes and accountability. in a project known as the pandora papers, almost 12 million financial records were obtained by a team of reporters. their report includes details on the off shore accounts of more than 130 people listed by "forbes" as billionaires and more than 330 politicians and public officials in more than 90
countries and territories. according to the washington post deep dive into it all, quote, the pandora papers allow for the most comprehensive accounting to date of a parallel financial universe whose corrosive effects can span generations draining significant sums from government treasuries, worsening wealth disparities and shielding the riches of those who cheat and steal while impeding authorities and victims in their efforts to find or recover hidden assets. we should note cnn has not done its own analysis of the le legalities here and using these instruments could be perfectly legal depending on where and how they're used. pamela brown spoke about it with greg miller, one of the journalists reporting on the pandora papers. >> reporter: are these off shore accounts legal that you
analyzed? >> yeah. i mean, it depends. so these companies that offer shell companies and so forth, they reside in jurisdictions where they are abiding by the laws of, say, the british virgin islands or cypress or other places around the world and you're right to point out that there's not anything necessarily illegal about that but it does create a lot of problems. it leads to tax evasion. these off shore systems are often exploited by criminals to hide ill gotten gains, corrupt politicians and just -- and as you put it at the top of the show, i mean, just the very, very wealthy in moving money and hiding money in ways that the rest of us simply can't or don't tend to do. >> according to the washington post, quote, off shore firms
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explosion outside amos being where they gathered for a funeral. nic robertson is closely following this. joins us now from abu dhabi. good to see you, nic. what are you learning about the initial mosque explosion and the taliban's response to it? >> reporter: so far, no claim of responsibility and so far the taliban haven't said precisely how many people were killed, how many were injured. we don't know if anyone was killed, but they do say there were a number of casualties. this was a funeral service for the mother of the main spokesman of the taliban. it appears to be by the very fact that the taliban went after isis later that night saying that the attack in police district 17 of kabul, they completely destroyed and killed all isis members in this cell, it appears the taliban are linking that attack from the
mosque, the main mosque in kabul, that they are linking it to sisis. the spokesman has told cnn and many other journalists that the taliban doesn't have an isis problem, that the isis threat is minimal, that this is something that they have the capacity to take on. but it does seem what isis have done, we don't know that it is isis, in making this link, it seems to be the link the taliban are making have perpetrated a large statement attack attacking senior taliban members. now this comes hot on the heels of the taliban going after in two separate attacks isis cells operating in karwan which is the province just outside of kabul. right next to police district 17 where the operation took place on sunday. there over the weekend on those
friday raids the taliban say they killed 9 isis members and captured five. now local journalists speaking to eye witnesses saying at the sig site of these attacks there appear to be civilian casualties. we don't have detailed confirmation of that. what does appear to be happening at the moment that the isis attacks at the taliban had been taking place in the east of the cou country. the owe cuss has shifted to kabul and the doorstep of kabul. they project themselves as being able to provide security and stability. here their core, their leadership level they have been targeted. >> nic robertson joining us live from abu dhabi. many thanks. just ahead here on cnn, the fight to save the planet. why some activists worry that
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the stakes are high as world leaders prepare to gather just weeks from now for the cop 26 climate summit. the goal is to get firm commitments to limit global warming and turn back the climate crisis. becky anderson has little hope real progress will be made. >> reporter: devastating floods, raging wildfires, monstrous hurricanes. extreme weather events are increasing with intensity and frequency before our eyes. signs that the planet is warming at an alarming rate and it's affecting our lives and our livelyhoods. world leaders will discuss what we can do and what's going to prevent it from getting worse. cop 26, united nations has put on the climate change summit for
nearly three decades. this conference of the parties is attended by countries that signed the u.n.'s framework convention on climate change in 1994. the 12-day event will be held in glasgow, scotland, hosted by the u.k. and italy. more than 190 world leaders will attend, negotiators, government representatives, citizens. to secure global net zero emissions by mid century and to keep 1.5 degrees of global warming, countries must meet their emissions reductions targets, adapt to protect communities and natural habitats and they must mobilize finance. countries have to deliver on raising at least $100 billion in climate finance each year, something that was agreed to more than a decade ago in 2010
when the unfcc developed the green climate fund. and work together to deliver on the goals. they say this will be the best last chance to get the run away climate crisis under control. time is running out. we've seen this movie before. big conferences year after year, leaders commit to irm plemting policies yet little work is done. >> our leaders' intense act of work is intentional. they cannot claim they are trying because they are clearly not. >> while some climate advocates are skeptical at the possibility of real change, after so many parts of the world have been impacted by recent extreme weather events, event leaders are hopeful that this time the goals are attainable.
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from scooby doo at the same time. another problem is a pain in my butt. >> i'm a democrat from west virginia. if i vote for electric cars, they're going to kill me. >> we're all on the same page. we're all saying the same damn thing. >> that's right. i'm saying we need at least 300 billion in clean energy tax cuts. >> and i'm saying zero. >> see, same thing. >> a lot of good stuff in this bill like 12 weeks of paid family leave. >> 6 days. >> 6 whole days of paid -- >> well, unpaid. >> unpaid six whole days. >> nights. >> six unpats of family hot leave. not a bad compromise, right? roads. we want roads. >> i like roads. >> me too. roads are where trucks live. >> kyrsten? >> i want no roads. >> no roads? why? >> chaos.
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hello and a very warm welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and all around the world, i'm i isa soares. >> she is going public in the most public of ways. she is not the first person to blow the whistle inside of facebook. >> billions of human beings want be to express themselves as they want when they want. i think we do more than anyone else in the