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districts that people are concerned. the myth that needs to be debunked it critical race theory is not taught in pre-k. it is done at graduate levels and some things as it becomes more well-known at the undergraduate level. i am a former practicing attorney, and i never saw it as a course in law school. >> a legal thoer. >> when i knock on doors, our candidates knock on doors across the direct, how do we bridge this divide. think about how do we create one community, one commonwealth, to address the complex issues. . >> does that help what he said? >> the schools and the parents have to be in partnership. they have to be teachers and parents have to be champions for
the students. and i don't think any parent wants to have sexually explicit things talking about pedophilia and showing it in graphic representation. i think that is something people don't want. i think people can agree on that. the line we have to figure out where to draw the line is how in fact, do we create the flexibility for public education to be inclusive. and that doesn't mean with those things. but where does the lawn tkra you to set up clear standards that are consistent across the board. that's one of the things we struggle with as a society. not just in the commonwealth. what are the clear and consistent standards. and as we move towards a closer conversation around equity and inclusion, we see a lot of things bubble up where people are uncomfortable with talking about what is the full panoramic sort of contribution of different people across communities. >> michelle maldonado, thank you so much for talking with us.
we will be looking to november to see what happens >> thank you very much. and "new day" continues right now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. it is thursday, september 30th on this "new day". it is 7:02 a.m. speaker pelosi, do you know where your party is? the answer to that question could help determine the success or failure of the biden presidency. will there be a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure plan today, one of the key pillars of president biden's domestic agenda. >> is there any chance you pull the bill tomorrow? . >> the plan is to bring the bill to the floor.
>> are you worried that you may not have the votes? >> one hour at a time. >> they like what's in it. they're promising to vote against it because they can't get a commitment from moderate democrats on other key parts of the president's domestic agenda. >> i have a feeling it will be delayed. if we do have a vote we will vote it down and we will continue the negotiations so we can actually deliver the entirety of the president's agenda as the president himself said he wanted us to do. >> excellents an agreement before the house vote on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill. manchin insists he's not changing his mind.
we still don't know what he wants. what does he want? there is hopeful news the senate expected to pass a stopgap spending bill to temporarily keep the federal government for shutting down for now. a senate vote is expected to fail. that is pushing the u.s. closer to default for the first time ever. joining us to explain the state of play within the factions here, we have cnn congressional correspondent melanie zinona. >> the politics are important. there is a lot at stake. there is a ton at stake for the economy and the american people. let's take a look at what's in this infrastructure package that passed the senate and is supposed to get a vote on the house floor. passenger freight rail, airports, ports, broadband. that was a huge priority.
and money to upgrade the electric grid, as well as plug-in electric vehicles. the package includes things like, let's go to the next slide here. universal pre-k. two free years of community college, expansion of the child tax credit, expansion of medicare and medicaid, lower preparation drug prices, paid medical and family leave. you can see how it would touch every aspect of a person's life and contains so much of biden's economic agenda. >> hugely popular for democrats. so where is the holdup? >> let's start talking about the price tag. progressives want to keep it at $3.5 trillion. they feel they already comp
phaoeugsed. they wanted $6 trillion. manchin and sinema, it's unclear where they are. climate change. that is a huge one. massive priority for progressives. one of the provisions in the bill on that slide they want a provision to incentivize utility companies to switch over to clean energy and penalize companies who don't. but manchin, who represents a coal state, says maybe this is not the best way to autos this. health care is a big and interesting fight. only so much money to go around. democrats are trying to figure out how to divy it up. you have pelosi rather shore up obamacare. that was a legacy item for obamacare.
they think some of these programs shaobs means tested. finally, we have taxes. that will be a huge fight. sinema concerned about the corporate tax rates they want to hike in order to pay for the whole bill. so you can see why they are still so far apart. frankly, these issues could take weeks to resolve, brianna. . >> years it seems. mel, thank you so much for that. >> joining me now is dana bash, co-anchor of state of the union and kasie hunt, cnn anchor and chief national affairs analyst. what we have is something unusual on capitol hill, which is aggressive uncertainty. like aggressive i don't know what's going to happen mode. it boils down to three questions. i have graphical al aids here. will they vote today? will they vote?
>> i thought i would see actual graphics, not your chicken scratch on a card. i don't think we will pretend to know the answer to that. there used to be a time when a leader, no matter democrat or republican, wouldn't take something this big to the floor knowing it would fail. it just doesn't look good. it is bad politics. i've also seen times when a leader in more recent times has taken a bill. what we are talking about is the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which is what the moderates are saying take the vote already. they would trach it to the floor to show, look, this is where we are, these are the votes we need. let's work on the notion to make it all happen. we honestly don't know where the speaker is going to be. here's what we do know, john.
what we do know is that they are very far apart. not just on the numbers but on the philosophy, on the ideology, the notion of the social safety net bill, which is really what they're negotiating about right now. the moderates, as melanie just laid out, they actually don't want to have more of an entitlement society in america. these are democrats. they say we have leverage. we want this. our constituents voted us in for this, and we are not going to give up our leverage at any point. . >> you talked about the why. differences there. west virginia joe manchin put out a statement, this is the definition of fiscal insanity. that he wants not the kind of stuff friends say to each other when they're playing nice, kasie, which leads me to number
two here with my graphical aid. what does manchin want? >> more time. which, first of all, is not something that is tenable with the way the speaker set up the rest of the day go. he has come out and said more of what he does want. he wants to spend a little bit less money. efpts things to be means tested. he wants conversations about how the taxes are set up in this reconciliation package. he's worried about those things. but i think really overall that statement was just trying to push the because button. now it is noteworthy it came after kyrsten sinema went to the white house four times and became the center of the news cycle. he said, hey, here's where i stand and this is what i'm going to do here. this question that you were just talking about with dana about what the speaker is going to do today is the critical one for everybody heading into today. like dana, i have seen it kind
of go both ways. my big question starting out the day, the one i have been asking sources about the last 12, 15 hours has been is she actually going to move forward and dare progressives to sink it. that is a tough moment. and the reality is that while she knows where the votes are and it is completely impossible, i don't know if that would be the strategy. there is a big difference between private conversations, insisting you're going to do something, saying you will hold out for your values and then watching the numbers on the board in the massive house chamber, watching republicans seem gleeful about what's going on, this is where we get the phrase arm twisting because literally they will go down to the floor is and you will see the conversations play out. policy has had her share of frustration with these progressives in her caucus. they have done a pretty good job tamping that down over the course of the last couple of years and trying to avoid making
it a story. there have been high profile flashes of pelosi and others in this group. i wonder if it doesn't come to a head today. . >> it's important not to miss the forest through the trees here with regard to where the democratic party is. we covered so many democratic debates and fights where progressives feel like they rolled over and agreed to wait for the next fight. they aren't there now. they see they have the numbers. they see they have the democratic president on their side with issues that used to be frankly kind of fringe, whether it's expanding medicare or soviet safety net issues, paid leave, and the child tax credit and things like that.
generation alley you have democrats who couldn't get their arms twisted before the ballot box. they ousted long-time establishment democrats. they are there to do what they have to do. it's hard to twist their arms because they have the numbers, the leverage and feel they have a mandate that no group of progressives i have seen to date have felt they had. >> that brings me to question number three. they are giving me the hook here. question number three, what can biden do about it, kasie? quickly. >> biden can make phone calls. he can do what he says he does best, try to convince people. he waited until the last second. he is a senator. and this is about the house. >> it doesn't sound like a whole heck of a lot. stick around.
more with you in just a minute. some funds for critical highway programs are at risk if the bipartisan infrastructure bill fails to pass. pete muntean is joining us now to talk about this. what's at stake here? >> reporter: well, brianna, this is one of the kinds of projects that could be hurt by this. this is the frederick douglass memorial bridge. it just opened. $200 million, 60% of its funding, comes from the federal government. it is that kind of funding that ex pierce at midnight. a one-year extension expires tonight. a five-year extension is called for in the biden infrastructure plan. but without that, senators say they might need to extend the funding with a one-month st stopgap. trade groups said this is critical and just has to get done. >> this is an extremely critical time for the country and for
state d.o.t.s and those of us in the transportation industry in particular. congress has until september 30th to get this infrastructure bill done. if they don't, you will see a real impact in what state d.o.t.s and other agencies around the country are able to do. >> pennsylvania, michigan, virginia. they can only continue construction for a while before they have to put shovels down. unintended consequences of an action that will have a big impact. . >> pete muntean live from washington. thanks. is it always this complicated? john avlon with a reality check. >> this is a make or break day. because less than 24 hours, we're going to know if the u.s. government suffered another self-inflicted shutdown. we'll know if democrats can come
together to pass a landmark infrastructure bill while paving the way for a biden-defining budge 9th. we'll also have a better sense whether the u.s. could default on its debt for the first time in our history. so, yeah, some days matter more than others. and this is as big as it gets on capitol hill. yes, joe biden's democrats have a razor-thin manager anyone congress. but here's what's really frustrating. we're as close as we have been in a half century to major infrastructure investment and closer than ever to a debt default. for all our divisions, these should be areas that unite us as americans. they have been broad areas of consensus for both parties. forget all the jokes about infrastructure week because this has been a big goal going back decades. >> this bill, which i look forward to signing, will speed the repair of our aging roads, bridges and transit systems. >> the philosophy of this administration to invest in the future, to create new jobs and new opportunities for sustained economic growth.
>> i think we should start by accelerating a renovation of our nation's highways, bridges, water and sewer systems. >> our economy depends on us having the most efficient, reliable transportation system in the world. >> the inadequate state, our a teubgz to foreign oil, crumbling bridges, roads, and levees. >> we're going to get this infrastructure going. >> after all that talk, president biden finally corraled a bipartisan group of senators to pass a trillion dollar bill in august. this is a big win, ready for the taking. but house republicans are reflexively whipping against it despite the fact that it would benefit many of their communities. while house progressives feel blind sided by the uncoupling crippling of the infrastructure bill from the bigger budget to provide working support for working and middleclass families. there is plenty of room to disagree about what are the stepb sustainable levels of debt. it would be more convincing if
republicans didn't dismiss how to pay for their tax cut which was also passed in reconciliation. it's one thing to vote against raising the debt ceiling as biden did in '06, another to filibuster it as republicans are doing now. it suspect tpeufpbgly responsible. it's the opposite. especially because the debts we're paying were racked up by republicans during the trump years. government shutdowns also play into auto increases play that they are chaotic and ineffective. the next step, defaulting on our debt, would be catastrophic for the world economy. that's why presidents from both parties have warned against it. >> i think congress ought to pass a clean bill that raises the debt ceiling, and i'll sign it. i think it's important. >> congress has a responsibility to make sure we pay our bills. we have always paid them in the past.
the notion that the nation is going to default on its debt is irresponsible. . >> people said i want to default on debt. these people are crazy. this is the united states government. >> here's the final insult. this deadline was entirely predictable. it didn't sneak up on us like an attack out of the blue or global pandemic. we know when we're head towards a government shutdown. democrats, particularly holdout manchin and sinema, know this was the deadline for the biden bills. after 10 trips to the white house, they still haven't put down their bottom line for their basis for negotiation. it's not responsible. it's reckless. but difficulties are the excuse history never accepts. today is not a drill. it's the real deal. we're either on the verge showing our democracy can deliver on its promises or that
our democracy dysfunctions. choose wisely. and that's your reality check. >> john avlon, thank you very much for that. congresswoman liz cheney with a rebuke of her republican colleagues while they were sitting there. kristi noem drawing scrutiny for reporting ato pay for her daughter's real estate license. >> this is my favorite poem ever. a trash can and an alligator.
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brass. they questioned competence and their commitment to the country. >> general milley, john 6th we had a violent attack on our capitol. you found yourself and your straourblly prescribed role standing in the preach. for any member of this committee, for any american to question yo you loyalty to our nation, your understanding to our constitution, your loyalty to our constitution, our understanding of the civilian chain of command is despicable. i want to apologize for the members of this committee who have done so and i want to thank you for standing in the breach when so many, including those in this room, failed to do so. . >> let's talk about this with cnn's dana bash and kasie hunt. what did you think? >> pretty remark able moment.
>> the generals have served their entire lives for this country. they have made sacrifices, spent time from their families, and to be treated in this way in this context was a pretty remarkable moment from liz cheney. big picture for cheney, this is clearly the way she is differentiating herself from republicans. she has to win her house race. it is possible she's setting herself up for a presidential bid in 2024 or at least a pid to stop the former president for going forward. >> the questioning of their commitment to this country is what chafed her. . >> absolutely. it's understandable, like kasie said, these generals, officers, members of the united states military who are following the constitution, which is civilian
rule and civilian run. and it is -- it was the commander in chief who was democratically elected who made the decision to pull out of afghanistan. now we know more that general milley didn't go around the chain of command. he went within the chain of command. . >> i want to change gears, switch gears. we're doing something different, people. we're talking about monica lewinsky. she appeared on david axelrod's podcast and she said really interesting things. let's listen. >> i just couldn't see a way out. and i thought maybe that was the solution, and had even asked, you know, which is, this is also an interesting point of just i
had asked the oic, what happens if i die. how is that not a point where you bring a psychologist in. how is that not a breaking point? >> it's very distant. these are the choices he's made. he will come to the end of his life like we all do and have to reconcile those choices, reconcile if he wished he had, you know, cleaned up those messes. >> she doesn't care what bill clinton does. it's up to him. but the first comment -- we knew she had actually considered taking her own life during that intense period of attention which has been eye opening to learn in recent years. i thought that was incredibly
interesting, going to the office of council and they didn't do anything. >> i'm going to pull a liz chain where and apologize to women like monica lewinsky, including monica lewinsky. let's go back to the earlier segment you did on britney spears and apologize on behalf of society. look at the way women, young women especially, were treated. let's stick lewinsky. she was treated broadly as the perpetrator. she was not treated the way she would today. i believe society has changed for the better in this way. she would be treated as someone who was a young person in a power situation where not only was her boss the person she was having the affair with, but the president of the united states. it is so understandable they
felt that way, suicidal. i remember the attention. i remember how she was villainized, again -- she was the butt of jokes by society, by media, and by the then president's fellow democrats. >> we hope she would be treated differently. we know a lot more about power dynamics. but it's so upsetting i think to look back and see really the pressure she was under and the fact that she had no one around her except, god bless her, her mother. she traubgs a lot about that. no one was looking out for monica lewinsky. >> i was still in school when this was all unfolding, a young woman watching this happen. and i can't imagine how alone she must have felt. you know, i think this is still can be a problem especially in
politics when the values get tied up in how people are acting. look what happened with andrew cuomo and time's up. women were advising a powerful man how to continue to stay in office despite damaging reports of misconduct. people still -- this is still something that we are grappling with today, especially politicians, fight like hell to keep their hold on power. sometimes they do that at the expense of other people in their way. too often it's young women who are not in positions of power who find themselves in these situations. i think we have got to continue to stay vigilant and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> thank goodness for voices like monica lewinsky's. i think that is something that if you said that in the late '90s it wouldn't have been said. >> she's an essential voice on that. thank you to both of you.
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a deeply personal revelation from democratic congresswoman cori bush of missouri telling "vanity fair" that she underwent an abortion at the age of 17 after being raped. bush is set to tell her story publicly at a congressional hearing on reproductive rights. abigail tracy, national political reporter for "va"vani fa fair". talk to me why she chose to tell
this story. >> reporter: yeah. thank you so much for having me to begin with. i spoke with cori bush on month. prior to sitting down with me she never publicly or privately even told her story in its spirit. and i spoke with her at length as to why now. why is she making this decision today. she was 17 at the time. and she has really her ethos is the personal is political. she regularly shared personal anecdotes with the public in speeches, et cetera. and one of the things that really stood with me is it was on the eve of a rally just a couple weeks back in st. louis. and, you know, we have this slew of legislation around abortions, including a bill in missouri that would ban abortion after eight weeks and not having exceptions or incest or rape.
on the eve of this rally, bush said she made the decision to share publicly for the first time and mentioned she did have an abortion. she said if there is a moment, this is the moment. it was very obvious that was an incredibly difficult story for her to share. but she also had a real determination to share her story in the hopes that it might foment change. . >> her tkaorgz was at nine weeks. in texas, there is the law which all but bans abortion after six weeks with no exceptions at all. how much should all of that play into it? >> it plays a lot into it. what she saw as she went through this difficult period in her life, this decision was incredibly difficult for her. again, as we mentioned, she got pregnant as a result of sexual assault. but the bill in her home state of missouri would have been at eight weeks.
as you mentioned, hers was at nine weeks. she would have already missed that window. all of those factors came together. she see this is as the moment to share her story, as painful as it is. even in our interview, she said i'm not sure how many times i want to tell this story. but she is today. . >> i was going to ask how hard is this for her? >> very difficult. it was a very difficult interview when we sat down monday. i spent well over an hour with her discussing it. it is very clear it is still painful for her to recount everything that happened between the assault and also the procedure. in speaking with her, that emotional is palpable. just being vulnerable around the issue of this story is incredibly obvious when you speak with her. but there was, you know -- there is, as i said, a real
determination to tell her now as she made the decision on the eve of the rally. kracourageous to come forwa with this story. appreciate your reporting. blunt comments from sonia sotomayor days ahead of what could be the start of a very consequential term. speaking at an event hosted by the american bar association telling lawyers, quote, there is going to be a lot of advertise appointment in the law, a huge amount. her comments coming on the heels of a scathing dissent she wrote earlier this month criticizing fellow justices who refused to block a texas law that bans abortion after six weeks .
did something justices usually don't do, which is refer to a case that's before the court, right? she brings up that texas law. and the justices are still considering that. but i have to say i don't think she gets in any trouble there. because what she said yesterday pales in comparison to her actual dissent. listen to what she said about that law in that dissent.
she said, the court's order here is stunning, presented with an application to enjoy a flagrantly unconstitutional law engineered to prohibit women from exercising their constitutional rights and evade judicial scrutiny, a majority of justices have opted to bury her heads. she is out there. she's writing her dissents because she hopes one day they will be majority opinions. of course this term that's coming up, brianna, there will be a lot of dissents on her part. no question about it. >> them's fighting words she put on paper there. . >> yeah. >> ariane devogue, thank you so much. coming up, the urgent manhunt for brian laundrie after she hoed up back -- he showed up
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a federal judge ruled to lift all restrictions on john hinckley jr., the man who tried to assassinate president reagan. this morning i'm joined by tim mccarthy, the secret service agent who took a bullet while protecting reagan during the assassination attempt 40 years ago. thank you so much for being with us this morning, tim. i really appreciate it. obviously, the entire country appreciates the work you did then and for your entire life. what was your reaction when you heard he has been granted his complete release as of this coming june? >> well, i was slightly
surprised and a bit disappointed that the department of justice didn't consult with -- i shouldn't say consult. at least advise me that they were going to object to it. so forgive me if i don't have a lot of good christian thoughts about someone who almost shot me, made my wife a widow and my children wouldn't have had a father, i don't see revenge either as a christian. this is behind me. but let's keep in mind the context of this. this was a mass shooting by law enforcement definition. one man was killed. jim brady was murdered. from the time he was shot, his family was ruined. his recovery -- there never was much recovery. tom delahane shot in the back of the neck and his career destroyed after that. the most important context is the president of the united
states. when a president is elected, he should be removed from the office of the ballot box or impeachment. and president reagan, like most presidents, was very consequential in the things he did and the agenda he he ad and what he did during his eight years. that may have changed. that's not the point. when a president is elected, he should serve his term. we released sir hand sir hand sounds as if he may be released over objections by many in the kennedy family. i hope it doesn't minimize the president of the united states, the leader of the free world, that -- it's not an easy target. but holding people accountable. and, you know, i'm not going to second-guess the judge because i don't know what he knows. i don't know what the psychiatrists have said. i know what they said.
he's no longer a danger to themselves and others. but they better be right. he better be right. we can't have our presidents and even presidential candidates being the object of assaults and murder simply because they don't like their politics. . >> when she got the news, the same news you got and were surprised by it, he's getting an unconditional release. she said now hinckley's last restrictions have been lifted, he can now if he wants contact me, my siblings and the actress jodie foster, who is as is well known he was trying to impress by carrying out his ambush. he could knock on your door. how do you feel about that? >> well, first of all, i don't fear for my safety or my family's safety, and he would be a very bad idea for him to show up on my front porch, i assure you of that. it would not be welcome. but i understand what they're
thinking. you know, that -- that their father was almost killed. put their family through a lot of trauma. but and as much as i appreciate what they have to say, the bigger picture in my view is we can't allow or give any people any idea that taking a shot at the president is anything less than the most severe, should get the most severe punishment. not necessarily just because they're no longer a danger to themselves or others, but can we take this risk constantly. look how many presidents we had attempted assassinations on or assassinations. can we continue it take that risk and send a message that maybe, okay, you can do it and maybe you do 25 or 30 years and you're out. so i worry about what it says in the greater context about presidents of the united states. we go through our elections, our are something to behold, as you know. they're contentious and they're
thorough and we go through all this to elect a president, and then we, you know, discount the fact that it is the president of the united states, leader of the free world, the person who has the nuclear arms under their control. so it is the bigger context that i see and i hope they're right about hinckley. he should not come to my front door as you mentioned, that wouldn't be a good idea. but i don't know everything that the judge knows because no one contacted me about it, even to give me an idea. i heard about -- i knew the hearing was going to take place, but i heard about the release actually from the media gave me a call. i would have heard it on the news at some point, but i received a call from the media to let me know. >> tim mccarthy, again, thank you for everything you've done. thank you for your service. and thank you for sharing your feelings this morning, all of which i have to say are completely understandable. we appreciate you. >> yeah, thank you very much.
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so let's check in now with chad myers. what's going on here? >> well, in may we started out with ana, and yesterday we picked up victor. victor. out in the atlantic, not going to hit anything, but we have one name left, wanda. in years past, when we ran out of names, we went to the greek alphabet. no longer the case. we have a supplemental list from the hurricane center and from the hurricane people out in europe as well, making these names, so we will not be going to alpha, beta, gamma. this weather report brought to you by servpro. some storms in the middle parts of the country, omaha to oklahoma city. sam, still a category, 3 almost 4 hurricane here still in the atlantic, going to brush bermuda with some waves. and there is victor out in the african coast and that will not hit anything when it comes to land. it will be a fish storm in the middle. now back here to the waves that will be in bermuda, could be 30 to 40 feet, and even this weekend, in the northeast or all
along the east coast, waves could be 5 to 10 feet. you have to be very careful with the kids and yourself this weekend, because the rip currents will be very, very high. brianna? >> i am looking at the names, ana and then victor. so it is, like, our afternoon anchor lineup, right? chad, but not going to hit anything. not going to do any damage. they're lovely people we work with. chad myers, thank you. >> afternoon anchor lineup not going to do any damage. thank you for clarifying that. florida manu gene bossy just achieved legend status. the army veteran utilized basic training and used a trash can to capture a six foot alligator who was loitering in his neighbor's front yard. >> watch out. watch out.
>> let me know! somebody let me know when the head goes inside. >> the head's in! [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> go, go, go, go, go! [ bleep ] >> go, go, go, go, go! >> mission accomplished. >> oh, wow. that is amazing. >> look, he just trots him over there. >> he says he's stunned by all the attention from the viral video. the folks at florida's wildlife commission were not impressed and without a sense of humor. they tweeted, concerned about an alligator, don't gra