Skip to main content

tv   Inside Politics With John King  CNN  August 3, 2021 9:00am-10:01am PDT

9:00 am
>> yeah. guys, thank you very much. paul and david, erica, much more to come on the independent investigation into new york governor andrew cuomo. documenting multiple occasions of sexual harassment that stretched on for years by the governor. john king picks up now. this is cnn breaking news. >> thank you, kate. hello, everyone. welcome to "inside politics". i'm john king. we begin the hour with dramatic breaking news. a wide ranging investigation concludes democratic governor of new york andrew cuomo broke state and federal law by repeatedly sexually harassing women. >> governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed current and former new york state employees by engaging in unwelcome and nonconsensual touching and
9:01 am
making numerous offensive comments of a suggestive and sexual nature that created a hostile work environment for women. >> that's the attorney general of the state of new york speaking at an event in which she and the special team she hired laid out the findings of a five-month investigation that included interviews with 179 witnesses. 74,000 plus pieces of evidence, documents, emails, audio files, pictures, texts, and it included an 11-hour grilling of the governor last month inside his manhattan office. the investigators say the governor engaged in a widespread long running pattern of subjecting subordinates to his unwanted sexual advances. let's begin our reporting with a crime and justice reporting. you were at the press conduct. damning detail after damning detail. >> reporter: the attorney general said it is deeply disturbing, yet, it all paints a
9:02 am
clear picture. and what we learned is that there were 11 women who came forward. two more than we had initially known about. initially there were nine women who came forward. so during this investigation, two more women came forward bringing the total to 11, including a state trooper who was on the governor's detail. his security detail. and what the governor is accused here of doing by the investigators, as you said, was certainly disturbing. this is what the attorney general said. this is what the two lawyers two were charged with investigating this case, and the attorney general at the top of her press conference described what it is they found and take a listen. >> governor cuomo sexually harassed multiple women. many of whom were young women. by engaging in unwanted groping, kisses, hugging, and by making
9:03 am
inappropriate comments. further, the governor and his senior team took actions to retaliate against at least one former employee for coming forward with her story. her truth. >> and also the attorney general and the two lawyers here talked about that the grilling of the governor, they say his denials lacked credibility. they also talked about interviewing other people in the office that came forward with stories. of course, all of this, the big question surrounding is what are the next steps? did the attorney general refer this for any kind of criminal charges? she said she did not in terms of this part of the investigation. that is over. ultimately, it could be up to the albany da where one of the allegations were made for them to bring charges. it's unclear if that will happen. the other question is what happens to the governor's future.
9:04 am
the attorney general here did not want to get into that. she said that is political. that is for others to decide. she even said that it is up to the governor to decide on whether or not he's going to resign. and then, of course, the state assembly. they have their own investigation ongoing. and whether or not they are going to proceed with an impeachment. certainly people expect some members of the assembly to call for his rez ig vags. but that is the big question. what are the next steps in all of this, john? >> it is a giant question. and obviously we're waiting to get the first reaction from the governor himself and the other important players that were mentioned. stay with us. i want to bring in our cnn anchor and respondent erica hill. what was striking was as the attorney general and the two independent lawyers laid it out, they were me thod dal. they were detailed and a lot of the details were, frankly, horrific. >> they were. and they were detailing we learned a lot about a person who was executive assistant number one, and also a state trooper
9:05 am
who was on the governor's security detail and experiences which she laid out as part of this investigation and ann clark, one of those independent investigators talking through that experience, laying out with this state trooper told them. take a listen. >> the governor also several times inappropriately touched a state trooper assigned to the unit to protect the governor. in an elevator while standing behind the trooper, he ran his finger from her neck down her spine and said, hey, you. another time she was standing holding the door open for the governor. as he passed, he took his open hand and ran it across her stomach from her belly button to the hip where she keeps her gun. she told us she felt completely violated to have the governor touch her as she put it, between her chest and her privates. >> and this was just one example. the examples, rather, i should
9:06 am
say, because more than one there from one of the 11 complain nants. now we know there are 11. nine of them current or former state employees. again, as both ann clark and june coupler laying out what they learned in this investigation. they talked about multiple times how this was part of a pattern. and that the response from the executive chamber violated its own policies, especially when it came to workplace culture and normalized sex and gender-based conduct that was rife with bullying and fear. >> erica, stand by. let's continue the conversation and bring in to help us our chief political correspondent, dana bash and elliot williams and jennifer rogers. jennifer, let's listen. this is quickly. the attorney general says she finds 11 women credible. lays out in detail both the governor's actions and this toxic culture of -- in the workplace in the executive branch of the state government. but she says her work is done.
9:07 am
listen. >> the matter is a civil in nature. and is not -- does not have any criminal consequences. >> walk us through, then, the legal next steps. she did refer to one case where one woman filed a complaint with the police department about unwanted touching. but when you listen to the presentation, a lot of people out there are going to be saying where's the legal accountability? >> yeah. i agree, john. i mean, listen, what she's saying is that her office is not going to continue criminally with this matter. the albany district attorney has one case. if any of the other women wish to press charges, they can go to their local prosecutor or where the event happened. sometimes manhattan, sometimes albany, to see if charges can be pressed. but the attorney general says that she's done, and if a criminal matter is going to be charged, which i don't think it will be here, most of these incidents didn't arise to the level of sexual assault, arguably none of them did. i wouldn't expect criminal
9:08 am
actions but that's probably where it's going to sit. >> and the attorney general said there were repeated violations of state and federal law. what are the questions for the u.s. attorney's office in new york right now or the questions for the biden justice department in washington? >> they're more likely going to be civil violations. these are workplace infractions. and egregious ones. the most fascinating thing is in 2019 andrew cuomo himself signed a law lowering the standard on sexual harassment in new york. in federal law, it's actually hard to win a sexual harassment suit. it's a lower standard here. certainly the state of new york, there's liability there. and as jennifer said as well, individuals will have an opportunity to sue. it's not very likely that we're going to see criminal charges either from the u.s. attorney's office or the justice department here. >> as we wait to watch the process play out, there are political questions. what is the governor going to say now that he's listen thod this presentation and understands the scope of the investigation? probably had a pretty good clue
9:09 am
in the 11 hours of delegate interviewed. now he understands what has been made public and the report that's been made public. listen to ann clark. again, this is the governor of new york. one of the largest states in america. he's the head chairman of the national governor's association. he was a prominent democratic voice throughout the pandemic. now one of the private investigators the lawyers are looking into this said this is andrew cuomo. >> the governor also engaged in a widespread pattern of subjecting women to unwanted hugs and kisses and touching them in ways that made them uncomfortable. conduct that is not old fashioned affectionate behavior as he and his staff members girlfriend it but unlawful sex-based harassment. >> number one, the first question is what say you, andrew cuomo after this is laid out. there is an impeachment question in albany. there's a question about people say no, no way, would he step aside? >> yeah. people who know him still say no way. in terms of stepping aside.
9:10 am
never mind the still open question of whether or not he would run for a fourth term. so the question at this point, politically, is frankly what is the leader of the democratic party now, the president of the united states say? and in an interview he gave when all the allegations were erupting with abc news, the question was if these allegations turned out to be true, should he resign and president biden said yes. this is not an easy thing for him to do. because the biden and cuomo families go back a long time, but that's a big statement. now the question for the white house is did the president mean that if that's found in a court of law, or what we just heard this morning from the attorney general of new york? we don't know the answer to that. and we've already seen when the allegations came out democrat after democrat after democrat from chuck schumer and kirsten gillibrand in the senate to many of his democratic colleagues in the congressional delegation in
9:11 am
the house saying he should resign. that's not new, but if i may, the political ramifications are very important. but i just -- as a woman, stepping back, and listening to these allegations in the detail that they were laid out in the press concerns, never mind what we're going to see in this very lengthy report. the fact that you have these women saying that they went to a place for public service, and they were not able to do that job because of not just a hostile work environment, because they were -- they felt they were being sexually abused, sexually assaulted, sexually harassed, pick your word. obviously that will be determined by a court. but it is remarkable to hear that detail. as kate bolduan said in the last hour in 2020, not in 1971. not in 2000. in 2020 after all of the #metoo allegations erupted and after that was part of the culture in
9:12 am
this country. >> right. and the meticulous detail, and the bravery of the women to come forward knowing how powerful the governor is. and also we'll continue this conversation. also the governor's, the allegations against the governor here, the findings against the governor, not allegations, findings against the governor are reprehensible. we'll get to the conversation about what his top aides did. the toxic culture where people were berated and pushed aside when they came forward with legitimate complaints. more on that. but right now we're waiting on word from andrew cuomo. we're getting some word from some of the alleged victims. erica hill has more. >> we are hearing more. two of the women named in the report. one posted thank you, thank you to everyone who expressed support out loud and in whispers. for hugs and hand squeezes and texts. thank you. mentioning some of the other women there. lindsey boylen who had come forward as well.
9:13 am
charlotte bennett posting on twitter, resign, very simply. resign. governor cuomo. she had detailed what she says she experienced in a couple of different interviews and we heard from ann clark a short time ago talking about the corroboration of her account. that was basically in realtime the texts and the conversations that she had about those encounters with governor cuomo. he has, of course, repeatedly denied the allegations of misconduct and sexual harassment and there was a specific question about that in the press conference a short time ago, john. as to whether he admitted to or denied any of these allegations. and we were told that it was a combination. some he had a different interpretation of those encounters and others the governor said he didn't remember. >> erica hill starting to build the file of the reactions. important reaction. and it's critical these women were heard in the investigations and heard now that the investigation is out.
9:14 am
we're getting some reaction. jennifer rogers, beginning to get some of the reaction from key players in the terms of what's next. the speaker of the assembly, karl, says these findings are gut wrenching. and says they will be considered by the assembly. we'll undertake the responsibility of the report. and more to say in the near future. we talked before about there are some criminal investigations that may well happen here, but the political step, impeachment, is now in the hands of the new york assembly. >> that's right. and they certainly have what they need, because this report while it didn't contain more block buster allegations in terms of the type of conduct, we didn't hear of any rapes or attempted rapes, that sort of thing. it did have more women who came forward with the same kind of conduct we had heard about, and it had allegations of the coverup, the treatment of charlotte bennett after she made her complaint and the way they tried to hide that is really, really important in terms of what kind of leader he is and
9:15 am
how he abused his office. so if i'm in the assembly, that's really important that they look at that in addition to, of course, all the other matters that the assembly is looking at that were not part of this report. they certainly have a lot to chew on her. >> and elliot, if you're in the room with the governor of new york right now as the legal representative and he's asking for your advice, it would appear there may be one or two criminal investigations out of this. it is more likely that this will end up being a civil matter from legal. let's set impeachment aside. a civil matter. some of the women may sue the governor and they'll have this report. and the findings of the attorney general and this investigative team behind them. what is his move? >> look, it's the weight of the evidence. and it's -- what's striking here is the number of allegations. number two, the amount of evidence that was presented. also the attorney general outsourced the investigation to two people with a background as a civil and criminal lit gator and one as a workplace harassment expert in the state
9:16 am
of new york. often these cases are he said, she said. here it's an army said versus one individual. and it's just going to be very hard to overcome the weight of this evidence. >> i think that's such an important point. already leading up to this, you heard the people around the governor saying well, this is political, because the attorney james wants his job. she wants to be governor of new york. and the fact that she buffered that or she surrounded herself with people who you describe as a legal expert and somebody who knows it with people who are -- should not and do not have a political ax to grind is really, really key here. and the other thing you said before, john, we know, i was talking about these as allegations, you're right when you said they were findings. this was because of the people who were doing it. this was an extensive, exhaustive report where they interviewed not just the women but the people in the workplace and the governor himself.
9:17 am
and the fact that it isn't just the people who worked around him in the political sense, but it was a state trooper? somebody who was assigned to protect him? to protect his life at all costs that had to, according to this report, deal with being sexually ha rrassed by the man she was trying to protect. it's -- you almost can't believe it. >> you go through them. another woman was a businesswoman in upstate new york who did not work for the governor alleged she gave him unwanted kisses on her cheek on a visit to her home to tour flood damage. >> it's not just the number of allegations. it's the consistency. they all corroborate each other. that's the kind of -- that's legal gold if you're bringing cases against an individual. >> and so the question becomes at some point who does the governor listen to? and we know this is just a fact, you know, that it's new york democratic politics are kind of dysfunctional. and governor cuomo is a powerful figure, but he's an island.
9:18 am
we know he has a very feisty relationship with the mayor of new york city. they don't get along. bill de blasio saying he finds what he's hearing troubling. and he said what we've seen is disqualifying. the question is will the governor listen? >> there's no evidence leading up to today that the answer to that is yes. we could all be surprised. but you have to believe that deep in his heart, he knew that all of this was going to come out because of the nature of -- and the intensity of this investigation. and yet, he has been saying that he is not going to go anywhere. >> again, the burden is on him to respond. ann clark, one of the independent investigators said the governor admitted some of this behavior, took issue with some of the context or serious level of it and disputed parts of it as well during the 11-hour interview with the investigators. we're waiting for the response from the governor of new york
9:19 am
and other important players. up next, more on the investigation. the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. it's the most comfortable, body-sensing, automatically-responding, energy-building, dually-adjustable, dad-powering, wellness-boosting, foot-warming, temperature-balancing, recovery-assisting, effortlessly life-changing proven quality night sleep we've ever made. save up to $1,000 on select sleep number 360 smart beds and adjustable bases. plus, no interest until january 2024 on all smart beds ends monday. welcome to allstate. (phone notification) where we've just lowered our auto rates. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and savings like that will have you jumping for joy. now, get new lower auto rates with allstate. because better protection costs a whole lot less.
9:20 am
you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. lisa here, has had many jobs. and all that experience has led her to a job that feels like home. with home instead, you too can become a caregiver to older adults. apply today.
9:21 am
9:22 am
when you earn a degree with university of phoenix, we support you with career coaching, including resume building, interview prep,
9:23 am
personal branding and more, for your entire career. so if you commit to earning a degree with us, we commit to standing by you until the day you retire. that's career services for life. find out more about our commitment at a month's long investigation corroborates multiple allegations from multiple women that the democratic governor of new york sexually harassed them. i want to bring in democratic congressman from new york. congressman, thank you for your time on this day. i anticipated we're going to have a different conversation, but we'll have that another day. the democratic governor of new york, 11 women. painstaking detail. horrific details laid out by the independent lawyers who investigated this. do you believe andrew cuomo can
9:24 am
stay in office? >> no. i think the governor's conduct is disqualifying and that's why so many democratic members of the new york congressional delegation and the state legislature called on him to resign several months ago. my heart goes out to the victims most importantly of governor cuomo's conduct. both the sexual harassment piece and in some instances, the sexual assaults. and this is something that no one should ever have to experience. i'm also thinking of my sisters and friends who work in politics, and all of the people who are at risk of people like governor cuomo's conduct. and that we have to stop this. we have to set a standard. and i'm hopeful we can resolve this in short order at the legislative level, if nothing else. in terms of removing him from office. >> in the meantime, we're waiting to hear from the governor. if his answer is i want to fight, i want to stay, dispute some of these allegations, what
9:25 am
will you do? what should the new york delegation do? >> the evidence of misconduct is replete. and, of course, this is separate and apart from the nursing home data manipulation and all the other things that led to the impeachment inquiry that the state legislature began several months ago. this is something that is a huge distraction in addition by the way from the act of governing as the governor of new york state. we are so ill-served by the status quo. and the great state of new york. today is a very, very sad day in the history of our state. in order to move forward, we must have new leadership. >> part of that new leadership question is not just the governor himself. if you were listening to the press briefing by the attorney general and especially again the two independent lawyers she hired to look into this, the environment in the governor's office is reprehensible in their view a violation of state policy
9:26 am
and a violation perhaps of state and federal law with top aides to the governor essentially helping push this aside and berating them if they brought about allegations. what should be done about that, and are you disappointed. the attorney said this is a civil investigation, my work is done. do you think she should do more? >> i will leave it up to the prosecutorial authorities to decide whether to press forward with civil charges. make no mistake about it. anyone who is an even superficial observer of new york politics is familiar with some aspects of the culture and the governor's orbit. so everyone who has been responsible for this conduct, whether as active participants or as people who helped to cover it up, or otherwise facilitate the misconduct should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. and certainly should not continue to hold the positions they hold. >> you mentioned earlier in the conversation you hoped this is
9:27 am
resolved legislatively. i assume you mean impeachment. the question at this moment, especially for younger newly elected progriszive like yourself, even before we knew about these allegations has been clamoring for change, for the status quo to change. how do you mobilize that at this moment to get results and get them quickly? >> this isn't about policy disagreements. i want to be clear about it. there's an independent basis now to have this governor removed. in addition, people of all political strives, throughout new york state, can agree that this is conduct unbecoming of a governor and indeed, disqualifying. and i think that is going to mobilize people to elect new leadership in next year's election. >> congressman, i'm grateful for your time today as i said, if we were going to discuss other important issues in washington right now, we'll have that conversation on another day.
9:28 am
i'm grateful for you join us about the breaking news in your home state. thank you. >> thank you. we'll come back into the room here, a conversation with our political panel, dana bash is with us. also to share their reporting and insights, song min kim of the washington coast. and the daily beast jackie coka sin itch. i asked you a political question and you put context in. to learn to the attorney general lay out detailed allegations, 11 women against one of the most powerful men in the united states, not just the governor of new york but a national figure, with a brand name in american politics, what is the importance of the moment? >> it's certainly. >> it's a message to women that now after decades and for so long of having this behavior be so common by powerful men, that their stories will be taken seriously, and i think that's what you were seeing from some of the women's reactions coming
9:29 am
in early after the report. and so just really first of all, our gratitude to the women who were brave enough to talk to authorities about this. and i think this sends a message to women across the country and world that you'll be listened to by authorities. >> i thought it was really powerful when the attorney general said we've listened to these women and we believe them. and so it's not just about the bravery of the women for coming forward, but for women, you know, on any level not just when you accuse a powerful politician, but when you accuse the boy next door or your boyfriend to believe that people in power will believe you, but i think the moment depends a lot on what governor cuomo does next. >> to that point, we've just been told, we will hear from the governor in about 30 minutes. the governor of new york to respond to this at 1:00. and as we wait for the governor, i'm going to put this on the record. the governor's brother, chris, worked as an anchor here. he was interviewed as part of the report as someone who reached out and talked to his brother as the crisis was
9:30 am
unfolding. again, andrew cuomo, the governor to speak about 30 minutes from now. if that's a live event, we'll bring it on cnn. and the stakes for the governor are enormous. if you heard one of the investigators, ann clark, saying he acknowledged some of this. said he had a different view on how some of it played out, and denied other parts of it. >> he in march said that he wasn't going to bow to cancel culture. that this was cancel culture at play after the most of the new york delegation including senator schumer, including senator jill brandt as dana mentioned earlier came out and said it was time for him to go. so this is also a message to male politicians. it doesn't matter how powerful you are. it doesn't matter what kind of network you have. one of the things i think that struck a lot of us when all of these democratic politicians in new york were kind of coming out on mass is the united front they
9:31 am
were presenting, because governor cuomo is known as a very vindictive man. as someone who will ga after people who speak out against him, and there was so much evidence that it was just enough is enough. >> i want to add one thing. as heroic as the women who came out and told their stories are, and they really are, i think we have to just be real here. that it's still not easy for women. i mean, many of them, those who became -- came out and were public like lindsey boylen, she's had her reputation dragged through the mud. she's been accused of a lot of things, and that shouldn't have happened. and it is still even in 2021, even in the #metoo, even post #metoo era, it is still very, very difficult for women. and that was the point that the attorney general was trying to make over and over again. believe women. it's our obligation to protect
9:32 am
women, and that is the message that she was trying to get out there. >> to your point, a woman identified in the report as executive assistant number one said she only came forward because she was afraid, afraid. she only came forward after she watched the governor publicly at a press conference deny he had ever touched anyone inappropriately. that's when she came forward. we'll hear from the governor at the top of the hours. governor cuomo, perhaps this is unfair, perhaps it's not the right word to use, but has used a trump-style play book in the sense of deny, attack the accusers, say this is being taken out of context. in the democratic party, in the state of new york, in this day and age, can you pull that play book out? >> it's happening. i mean, it is -- i mean, look -- >> now that this report has been published, 11 women who the attorney general and the state of new york and the independent investigators say they find 11 women credible? >> to borrow a term from the president and vice president, this is an inflection point. this is an inflection point.
9:33 am
and we'll know the answer to that very soon of whether or not that can happen in today's day and age, especially among democrats and even among and by a governor who helped change the law to make it easier as elliot williams was saying to allow these women to seek justice. >> because new york is a democratic state, though, that erases part of the trump play book. that to accuse us of being partisan and these are your political enemies out to get you. the governor has said that to some degree. that's a harder argument when most of the people asking you to step down are fellow democrats. >> again, if you don't understand new york state politics, andrew cuomo is the most powerful man in new york state politics, but he doesn't have a lot of friends, even among democrats. it's true. he's had a lifelong dream of winning four terms as governor. his father was denied a fourth term. i covered his father years ago.
9:34 am
marrow cuomo different than andrew, but andrew cuomo for the legacy wants a fourth term. this report would seem to say no, sir. >> it isn't hard not to sexually harass people. it's actually really easy not to sexually harass women who are your subordinates. men who are your subordinates. it's not hard. if he wanted a fourth term, what happens he should have taken that into account. >> right. and i think that's going to be really important later today after the governor's press conference is what president biden and the white house say. we talked about this earlier in the show, but earlier this year when president biden was asked about the allegations, he said if they are confirmed, yes, he should go. does this rise to that level? i'm sure there will be a lot of questions about that. >> we know the president's preferred rutte on these things is to pick up the phone and do it quietly. the question is is that phone call happening? has it happened? will it happen? you're right. an important question for the president of the united states who is the leader of the
9:35 am
democratic party at this moment. ladies, thank you so much for coming. next, another critical -- we're waiting again for andrew moe. up next a covid crisis point. hospitals filling up again. the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis...
9:36 am
...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™. janssen can help you explore cost support options. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection.
9:37 am
we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value
9:38 am
and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. team usa is ready for the olympic games...
9:39 am
...and so is sharon! she got xfinity internet and mobile together... so she has fast and reliable wifi at home... wow! ...and nationwide 5g on the most reliable wireless network... oh my gosh! up to 400 dollars off her wireless bill! wow! cheer on team usa with xfinity internet. and ask how to save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill when you add xfinity mobile. get started today. president bryden speaks later today about the covid crisis trying to close still the vaccination gap. new york city's mayor had an
9:40 am
announcement earlier today. this among troubling covid numbers. hospitalizations across the country at their highest level since back in february. and nine of every ten americans, nine in ten live somewhere where the cdc says you should mask up even when you go indoors. especially when you go indoors. let's look at this as the cases right now. if you look at the cases, cases up 50% from last week. above 80,000 new infections a day. not since february. not since february when we were coming down from the horrific winter peak. when you have new cases, we've been through this, hospitalizations go up. 200% from just last month. americans in the hospital because of covid are up. we're above 50,000 in the hospital for the first time since february. and this is what i mentioned at the top. red on the map is high spread of covid. high community transmission of covid. you see substantial is the gold color. nine in ten americans are now in places where the cdc says you should think about this. you should think about this and
9:41 am
mask up. let's bring into our conversation so share his expertise, the former cdc director. doctor, grateful for your time. you have the new york city mayor saying you want to go to a gym or indoor recreation, you need to prove you've been vaccinated. is that what we need? is it proof of vaccination? should we divide americans? if you're not vaccinated, you can't do certain things? >> big picture here is that delta is making this virus doubly dangerous, and we have to double down on protection mandates to enter jips and restaurants make a lot of sense. in other countries, it's helped business, because people are more comfortable going out to eat or going to the gym if they know everyone around them has been vaccinated. >> so you worked at the national government. you're trying to come up with a national response, understanding we have 50 states that are different in many ways. part of it is the vac nation rate right now. you see in the lighter green, people at home, 37% in arkansas.
9:42 am
37% in louisiana. 64% in maine. a lot of cases down here. but doctor, texas had 44% vaccination rate. florida almost halfway at 49 %. in the past week one in every three new infections come out of those two states. they have republican governors who don't listen, frankly, to team biden's advice on this. what do you do? >> it's not about team biden. it's about team science or team team anti-science. if you're team science, you can beat this science. we're seeing places with low vaccination rates relaxing mask mandates seeing an explosive spread. the numbers are bad, but i'm sorry to tell you, i think the numbers are going to get worse in the next month. the one silver lining and it's an important one is because more than 8 0% of the most vulnerable people in our society, those over 65 and also people with
9:43 am
underlying conditions are already fully vaccinated, we are going to see a much lower death rate compared to the case rate. so vaccines are saving tens of thousands of lives. but basically, bottom line, you're about 100 times more likely to be killed by this virus if you don't get vaccinated. >> i want to come back to the vaccination. you talk about things could get worse as we look. it's largely in the south, the southeast part of the country will the vaccine rate is behind the national average. 39%, 34%. 35% across georgia, mississippi. those are also the places that go back to school earlier in the season. typically. i want you to listen to dr. francis clolens who says it's true. when children get covid, they tend not to get severe symptoms. he says there are sadly tough exceptions. >> it's clear that this variant is capable of causing serious illness in children. you have heard those stories coming out of louisiana
9:44 am
pediatric icus where there are kids as young as a few months old that are sick from this. so yeah, you do need to think about it. >> i know you spent a lot of time on this. what should every school administrator, every parent, every mayor, every governor, every person in public health whether state or local level be asking themselves right now about children at this moment? >> it's actually not just all the people you mentioned. it's all of us. we have to get our kids back in school, get the schools to open and stay open. and all of us can do our part. the risk in schools reflects the risk in the community. schools can open and stay open, and it's crucially important they do so, but they have to do so with a layered approach. that means vaccinating everyone who can be vaccinated. that means masking indoors for everyone in the school. this is terrible to see some of the states banning mask mandates in schools. this is condemning our kids to outbreaks of covid. and we have to make sure we increase ventilation.
9:45 am
we have special protections for some of the kids or staff who may have underlying conditions. and we're ready for when there are cases because there will be cases. we can stop them from becoming clusters or outbreaks. schools can stay open if we take a layered approach and nothing really nothing is more important than saving lives and keepg our kids in school. and we can do that by vaccinating and with an extra layer of protection, masking up. >> amen to that. doctor, grateful for your time. thank you. >> thank you. ahead for us, new york city says show us you're vaccinated if you want to eat inside a restaurant or go to the gym. fought for his people. em. protected this nation. they are the heroes in my family. who are the heroes in yours? oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need. sorry? limu, you're an animal!
9:46 am
only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ are your hr processes weighing down your employees? on to quarterly projections! expense report! if you're using multiple systems, re-entering data over and over time sheet! using email and spreadsheets to manage information and approvals, then your hr systems are a drag on productive time. with paycom, employees enter and manage their own hr data in a single, easy-to-use software. visit paycom dot com and schedule your demo today. do they know this door is locked
9:47 am
9:48 am
new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit and get started today.
9:49 am
team usa is ready for the olympic games... ...and so is sharon! she got xfinity internet and mobile together... so she has fast and reliable wifi at home... wow! ...and nationwide 5g on the most reliable wireless network... oh my gosh! up to 400 dollars off her wireless bill! wow! cheer on team usa with xfinity internet. and ask how to save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill when you add xfinity mobile. get started today.
9:50 am
new york city mayor this morning drawing a sharp dividing line. you will need proof of a covid vaccine to go to a restaurant, a jichl or any other indoor recreation venue in america's most popular city. let's get to athena jones. big step. >> it is a big step. we've been talking a lot about mask mandates and vaccine or testing requirements in private companies or for certain cities, municipal workers. this goes the furthest we've seen in the nation. new york city starting september 13th will require anyone who wants to eat indoors, indoor dining, anyone who wants to work out indoors, indoor fitness centers and gyms and
9:51 am
anyone who wants to see entertainment, indoor entertainment venues, everyone has to show proof of vaccination. they're going to have several ways to do this. they can show the new york sit has an excel sheet that shows you've been vaccinated. you can show your vaccine card and there's an app as well. you only have to have one shot. in some cases you have two-shot vaccines. only one dose is necessary to be able to meet this goal. listen to how the mayor described his goal here. >> if you're unvaccinated, unfortunately, you will not be able to participate in many things. >> he wants to make it uncomfortable for people to participate in the activity of the city if they're not vaccinated. we saw something similar in france and a huge number of people signing up to get a vaccination once it was introduced. that's what they're hoping for. >> fascinating to watch the numbers to see if there's an up tick. grateful of the important reporting there. let's move from new york to
9:52 am
louisiana to get a view from someone who's hospital is in the middle of this. the physician and chief at the hospital in new orleans. he's also a pediatric -- >> i want to put up on the screen the children cases in louisiana. 20% of the new cases in louisiana are children under the age of 18. you see the 5 to 17-year-olds are the yellow line. what are you seeing and what is different about children in the hospital now as opposed to previous spikes of covid? >> i think the delta variant of covid-19 has been a game-changer for us. we're seeing far more children hospitalized with covid-19 than we have in the past. and a number of them in the icu. we had one death at children's hospital new orleans just last week. this is wreaking havoc. it's overburdening all the pediatric and adult health care facilities across the state. transmission is rampant. i don't think we have seen a virus like this one that has the
9:53 am
combination of contagiousness this one has, and so -- and we're still on the up slope. we're not anywhere near plateauing in terms of cases or suffering or unfortunately, deaths. >> and in the middle of the storm, this question may be premature, but do you have enough data? are you seeing enough when the children are coming to the hospital with covid, are their parents vaccinated? >> i don't have enough data to say. but i know that only 37% of louisianians are completely vaccinated at this point. and that number is one of the lowest in the nation. we've got to work hard to increase it. and now every adult in the united states and particularly here in louisiana has another reason to be vaccinated, and that is to protect our children. children are suffering from this disease. the myth that children could not become infected or would not be very ill with this disease, that has been dispelled by the delta variant, and certainly they're
9:54 am
getting quite ill from this disease now, and we as adults can insulate them from the disease by getting vaccinated and masking up and doing the things we know we can do to blunt this transmission. >> i'm glad you addressed it that way. when you talk to people, many say our kids can't get it or they get mild cases. with schools about to reopen, what's your message to parents across the country? >> well, we certainly are proponents of face to face learning at school. but we've got to do it in a safe way. so schools need to be practicing good hand hygiene. they need to practice distancing. we're proponents of masking in the schools. governor edwards in louisiana yesterday instituted a mandatory state-wide indoor masking policy that does pertain to all schools and school children five years of age and older. we think that's a very important
9:55 am
step. but all those things have to be done. we've got to protect children from becoming infected and suffering the acute affects of the disease, but you know, we don't know what the long-term or the late effects of covid-19 and particularly the delta might be for children. we have a lot of good reasons to try to keep children safe now. >> grateful for your message. appreciate it. grateful for what you do in the middle of the storm in louisiana. thank you for your time today. don't go anywhere. stay with cnn. the breaking news from the governor of new york. andrew cuomo with speak in just a few minutes after stunning allegations of sexual harassment.
9:56 am
9:57 am
9:58 am
(vo) unconventional thinking means we see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. that's how we've become the leader in 5g. #1 in customer satisfaction. and a partner who includes 5g in every plan, so you get it all. is your family ready for an emergency? you can prepare by mapping out two ways to escape your home,
9:59 am
creating a supply kit, and including your whole family in practice drills. for help creating an emergency plan, visit a little preparation will make you and your family safer in an emergency. a week's worth of food and water, radio, flashlight, batteries and first aid kit are a good start to learn more, visit
10:00 am
zblnchtz hello. we're following major breaking news. any moment now andrew koe cuomo will speak for the first time since the state attorney general -- let's listen in. >> i interfered. i said i would hold my tongue, and i have. making only limited comments. it has been a hard and a painful period for me and my family. especially as others feed ugly stories to the press. but i cooperated with the
10:01 am
review, and


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on