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you have a decision. the results are if you are not vaccinated, you have a poor outcome. >> i'm hopeful people are beginning to realize how essential it is. >> if we can't get extremely high rates of vaccination, we're going to see more and more
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variants, some of which will be worse. >> if you put on a parachute and you have a good chance when you land, we would all put on the parachute. i'm phi ml mattingly in washington. pamela brown is off. health experts are now scrambling to drive home the message, as the frightening surge of cases presses higher. also knowingly, vaccine hesitancy, just less than half the nation is vaccinated. it's slowly inching higher as the cdc stresses that the vaccine is still the best protection against infection, hospitalization, and most of all death. at the cases climb nationwise,
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conditions only worsen. those younger than 12 are not yet eligible to go vaccinated in the u.s. in new york, vaccination is climbing. cnn's polo sandoval is in new york. polo, when it comes to restrictions and mandates, we haven't seen they very partisan divisions. what is the view there, likely seeing more precautions ahead? >>. >> you have seen the return, starting this morning, regardless of their vaccination status, being required to wear a mask, as you point out here in new york, we certainly are expecting an announcement regarding that very same topics, possibly as early as monday. this is as the rate goes up, but so does test positivity. >> new cases of the coronavirus are rising. in every state across the nation, by at least 10% over the
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past week, but there are glimmers of hope. weekly vaccinations rates are up from just three weeks ago still, far short of when the white house hoped s in the south, not seeing the number of shots double, but the south still has a long way to go. as bad as things are in the south, they're about to get worse, if for lots of unvaccinated individuals. >> new cases in florida have jumped by more than 50%, in neighboring georgia, the new case rate has tripled. in louisiana, where they had the most cases per capita last week, daily vaccinate rates jumped 111% from three weeks ago. >> the delta variant is a game changer, and at this point it's not whether we vaccinate or mask. we have to do both.
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>> an internal documents from cdc says the delta variant, which is fueling much of the rise across the country right now, produces similar viral loads in both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. vaccinated people may also spread the rate at the same rate as unvaccinated people, but it's critical to know that breakthrough cases on vaccinated people are rare. president biden says more restrictions could be coming. >> reporter: should americans expect more guidelines coming out? more restrictions because of covid? >> in all probability -- >> reporter: health experts agree, unless many more get vaccinated, things could get much worse. >> what we can say is this virus is doing exactly what we predicted it will do. if we can't get extremely high rates of vaccination and those rates now need to be higher than with the original strain because
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of the increased infectivity, we'll see more and more variants, some of which will be worse. >> reporter: a quick note on the state of florida, getting worse that test positivity among those ages 12 to 19 now up to 22% there in the state of florida, phil, as the state's governor rules out a new executive order to prevent the implementation of a mask mandate in places like schools. >> so many concerning numbers. great reporting, polo. thanks, as always. hundreds of thousands of stories on this pandemic, but fewer are more tragic than the people who delayed getting vaccinated. 39-year-old michael freedy, node ago big mike, after a trip to san diego. he thought it was just a bad sunburn, but he tested positive
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for dough individual, and despite a hard-fought fight with the virus, michael died on thursday, his fiancee jessica was beside his side when he passed away. one of the last text messages is -- i should have gotten the damn vaccine. it's a sentiment sadly we're hearing all too often as this claims more and more lives. jessica joins me now. first of all, you know, there's no words in a situation like this. i'm so sorry for your loss. i can't imagine what you and your family are going through. first and foremost, how are you doing now? >> really, it comes and goes, really. it still feels surreal, like he should be here, he should be coming home. this is somebody else's life. and then other times, i'm like, as long as i'm doing something, i'm okay. i have to get the kids lunch or this load of laundry done. as long as my mind is moving,
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it's okay. >> i would start by saying you have a beautiful kiddo sitting on your lap right there. >> this is our youngest. >> he far more quieter than my children are. hey, buddy. tell us a bit what michael was like as a person? >> michael, i mean, he was larger than life. not just because of how big he was. he would caulk into a room of strangers and walk out having been invited to somebody's wedding. his smile, as lopsided as it was, was infectious his whole personal was a gentle giant. >> i know this is complicated to talk about, but our understanding is he wasn't vaccinated, he was reluctant until it's too late. i think it's the misperception
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is it's monolithic, but what was his rationale? >> we had talk -- we've talked about it numerous times over the different times different vaccines have been released, different things happening all over the world. we were just like, if we wait one year, what's one year from when the vaccine starts being released? within year is not bad. after that, we will decide which one of the ones have hit the market are best for us and our family. so it was never, no, we're not doing it. it was we need to see which one has the least side effect. what is the safest one? >> it was never we're not doing it. it was the hesitancy, which way to go? >> it's an important point. it's not an anti-vaccination things. i know it's extremely difficult to talk about, but i don't think
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anybody wants people making that decision as well. by delaying the vaccine, what would you say to people watching right now who still haven't gotten shots and maybe taking a similar approach to what michael took? >> i think that right now at this point, if you're on the fence, and it's only about side effects, it's totally worth it. i don't have mike anymore. my kids don't have a dad anymore, because we hesitated. people will go this, that, and you can die from a vaccine. anybody can have a bad reaction to a vaccine. i would take a bad reaction over having to bury my husband. i would take that any day. >> i guess i would just close with this -- you know, we're grateful that you come out to share your message.
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we're extraordinarily sorry for what you've been through. is there any last thing you would want to say about michael as the person? i think everybody is trying to take lessons, but one of to wrap it up? >> mike was the kind of person that everybody should strive to be. he was kind, he was gentle, giving, he was funny. he was just larger than life. he was everything. he was a great person. >> yeah. i don't think there's any question, the way you describe him. jessica, we're so sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> we're also extraordinarily grateful for sharing your story. it's extremely, extremely important. take care of yourself and your family. >> thank you so much. if you want to know more about michael, his life, jessica has set up a gofundme page in his memory. later this hour, william
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schaffner, joins us. tweet me your questions to @phil, underscore, mattingly. this is a weekend that could impact the long-term future of tens of millions of americans, depending on what happens in the united states senate, and a $1 trillion infrastructure bill. i'm chuckling, because we've been in this place for a while. meanwhile, it looks to also be the final night for the eviction moratorium. i want to focus on the infrastructure. the senate is holding an unusual saturday session, as joirlt leader chuck schumer vows to have infrastructure passed, along with reconciliation -- which we won't go down that rabbit hole yet -- but so far the text hasn'ting finalized.
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>> i have said for weeks the senate will move forward on both tracks of infrastructure before the beginning of the august recess. the longer it takes to finish s. the longer we'll be here, but we're going to get the job done. with me now, white house economic adviser jared bernstein. jared, we're both working on a saturday. good to see you, sir. >> good to see you, too. >> i won't ask about senate parliamentarians or budget reconciliation, but i do want to top line it right now. the happen has been so committed to this deal, the ups and the downs. are you confident that this gets over the finish line sooner rather than later? >> i am. we're seeing a level of progress that no one expected. we keep getting the votes that are well over 60 -- again, without going down any budget process rabbit holes, we need
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more than 60 votes for this to pass on a bipartisan manner. what we have seen is this president reaching across the aisle, and just getting over every hurdle that's been put in front of him, with help from members of the senate, both sides of the aisle. this has to be extremely welcome to the american people. a new poll shows that 70% support what's in this measure. that doesn't surprise me. one of the things i'm confident about this legislation moving forward, i have heard for many years, from democrats and republicans who want to get clean water in their districts, who don't want their constituents sitting around on broken bridges or fixing their axles in garages because of potholes, who want to see broadband reached world communities, who want to be electric buses, so there is just a lot of momentum here, not just in congress, but from the american people. >> can i ask you, though --
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there's no question, you look at the polls and white house officials regularly give it to us, on that and on the provisions and on the bill at large, it's well above a majority in most indications, but some of the folks who i think would consider you one of their ideological allies inside the white house, progressives have voiced concerns, it's not enough. it's a fourth of what the president put out in the american jobs plan. how do you counter that in terms of what's actually in the bill and what it means overall? >> there's a number of ways to respond to that. surge i am close to the progressive community and proud of it. many of the things we're talking about are things i've worked with, with those colleagues, getting climate mitigation into a bill that's getting north of $65, 67, 68 votes in the senate is a tremendous accomplishment by a president who can clearly
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reach across the aisles. especially when we're talking about progressives, we should recognize behind in frontcourt bill is the president's priorities in areas of child care, elder care, education including two years of community college for free, and universal pre-k, not to mention an extensions of the hugely anti-poverty child care credit. these senior what progressives have worked on, and they're seeing it come to fruition through the actions of the president. >> one or two more times, and we're going to go down the rabbit hole. >> your viewers thank you for that. >> so do my bosses. more broadly, you're on the council of economic advisers, you are an economist. when you're looking right now, we have spend the last week, all of us, looking at the new delta data, obvious live there's
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surges throughout the country, primarily driven by the unvaccinated. from an economic perspective, how does the administration look at it, and how does this affect downstream economically? >> well, you happened to ask me that question on a good day. even though it's saturday, i've spent the whole day poring over data on exactly that question. if you look at what we call high-frequency data, people passing through tsa, people going to restaurants, google tracking mobility, there you don't see much evidence of the delta variant in the economy yet. i think the keyword there is yet. the thing we know, from data that came in last week, is that the american people are deeply reengaged with commerce. they're going back out, going to restaurants, food services finally passed the pre-pandemic
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peak. gdp passed its pre-pandemic peak. we're adding jobs. we have some positive wage pressures going on there. we see this recovery as having strong momentum. of course, the virus remains in the application and the delta adds a level of uncertainty. the key thing, and you just did most moving and informational stories here is, of course, vaccinations. one other indicator we're seeing is that vaccinations rates are rising in places where they've been the lowest. that's good to see, but we have to track this intersection between the spread of the variant and economic activity. we're not seeing much there yet, but we're looking at it. >> yeah, i mean, it's fascinating to watch play out. i know you keep a close eye on it. i know you made clear that this was a dual crises, and you were managing it both. i don't think know that we
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thought we would be back here. >> can i make a comment about that? >> yeah, go ahead. >> weds knows we're in a period of great uncertainties. what people can have faith in, you have a team that is devoted to doing everything we can to make sure we're not just generating robust recovery, but one that's reaching everyone, by combining the scientific and economic approaches that i think we have seen yield results. >> jared bernstein, thank you for taking the time walking us through things. i will ask him lisa herring, school superintendent, about what they're doing. dr. william schaffner is here to answer your questions. plus our will ripley, never sleeping, always live at the
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georgia is facing pandemic numb% not seen since before vaccining became widely available. covid-related deaths up 18%. new cases, 230% in the past two weeks. we haven't seen levels like that since mid february. given less than 40% of the state's residents are fully vaccinated. the outbreak has prompted gwinnett county to issue a mask mandate for schools. the move was widely chris sized by parents who protested yesterday afternoon. >> we have to learn to live with covid, and it's very important to define what a covid outbreak means. just like the flu in past years, this is going to stay with us
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going forward. when we say there's a covid outbreak, school is the safest place for kids to be. will we live with masks going forward? when you look at the outbreaks in schools, they've been very low. >> joining me is lisa herring, superintendent of atlanta school. thank you for your time. the first question on everybody's minds, what is your message to parents who take issue with the wearing masks. >> good evening. i appreciate the opportunity to respond. first and foremost, we have a public education entity. we honor and respect there are different opinions and positions around the mask mandate, but as a public educate entity, we do have a responsibility for the safety and wellness, as best we can provide it, for all of our students. we know there will be positions that will be different, but when we stake into consideration our
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actions, we have to consider the entire population. >> si understand, it's been a different months for any education trying to figure out how to threat this needing with what's going on. what systems to atlanta public schools have in place now to protect students and teachers that maybe they didn't have when schools resume? >> a great question. certainly first and foremost it's been universal practices that help us mitigate for safety reasons. a year and a half ago, obviously none was us were talking about the need to have masks at all times. we have implemented a universal mask man dade. so within atlanta public schools, we will start the school year out with students in masks. in addition to that, we started this past semester with the surveillance testing opportunity. so surveillance test sergeant available weekly for all of our buildings, for students and staff, to get surveillance tested for covid on a weekly
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basis. we believe that's been another layer for effective mitigation towards protection within the classroom. the others are quite similar across the board, appropriate social distancing, hand washing, disinfecting our buildings, but the ones that are most prominent have been around masks. for us, the addition of universal surveillance testing. >> what are the triggers to force the schools to resume remote learning? >> yes. that's been top of mind for all of us. i want to acknowledge how we have watched data relative to vax neegsz here, of course in atlanta public schools. as of last week, we had about 18% of our student population, 12 and under -- i'm sorry, 12 and over that had been vaccinated. only 58% of our employees workforce.
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we're also looking at georgia's overall numbers, data relative to the vaccinated pop lanes. then, of course, because we do offer surveillance testing, we are carefully monitoring the numb bers of individuals testing positive, and we're watching the up tick of the delta variant. we recognize those are critical data points to help us determine how to proceed day by day. >> lisa, the governor vowed no new mask mandates, no lockdowns. if these trends continue, how much responsibility would the governor bear if the schools had to shut down, if you hit some of the triggers? >> i understand that governor kemp has articulated his position around the masking mandate. that's an open question, to determine how much of that responsibility is there to bear. i will safe, for me as
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superintendent, part of what is mission critical is to issue every strategy that gives us an opportunity to say we did as much as we could to help prevent the spread. again, watching the data helps drive that. i'm certain and i'm optimistic that that would be true for our state government as well. 100 students were quarantined after an outbreak among nine students and five staff at a charter school in atlanta. i know everyone is try to go learn from everybody else as this has all played out. was this an appropriate and effective response, based on your read of things right now? >> absolutely. they are one of our charter schools. it was absolutely an appropriate response. we certainly support that. being able to identify the individuals who had tested positive, immediately track and quarantine individuals who would have been at risk is a vital
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part of mitigating safety for all. we support that without question. it puts us all in a position where we're trying to identify what will that look like, as we begin to open back up our schools. we'll have to find ourselves in a position where we find the need to pivot, if that becomes a reality, we've been there before, so we can prepared to do that. most importantly, if we can simply implement the great practices, our greater hope is to prevent numbers from increasing, so we can continue to protect our teachers and staff. >> by far, those last two the most important, no question. lisa herring, i know you have a long road ahead and a lot to do. thank you for joining us. >> i appreciate you. thank you. tomorrow we'll talk to two who founded teachers for attituder. just tweet at me, and they'll answer your questions.
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it's becoming increasingly likely we'll see simone biles compete again at the summer games. the team usa start, the goat some might say, is skipping the finals for the vault and uneven bars. she's not competed since suffering a bad case of what's known as the twisties. will ripley join me now. we're all trying to digest this,
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how many other gymnasts could win medals if she doesn't? >> reporter: two more chances. on machined aonday and tuesday, seems unlikely given the instagram posts. the twisties is a really terrifying condition, gymnasts say, that can completely disorient her. it gives her credibility stepping aside and letting her teammates shine, like suni lee. simone is a once in a lifetime talent, but these are different, at least for right now. >> it's been eye-opening that the team is just really, really talented, no question about it,
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overall. novak djokovic is out, losing in the bronze singles match, pulling out of the ducks match citing an injury. where do things stand right now? there's some interesting things that occurred in that match. is that right? >> reporter: yeah, it kind of resembled a rock concert where somebody just starts smashing their go ahead tar, though it was the tennis racket. he's frustrated. the golden slam he came hoping to get, is now a dream. he'll have to wait until paris 2024, tess earliest. so that was annoys. the heat has been incredibly frustrating for him. he talked about just brutal temperatures. he said, in his career, he's never had to endure such extreme heat. it is true this could go down as perhaps one of the hottest summer olympics on record. >> it's been a huge complaint of those in the tennis competition throughout. will ripley, a man who i know
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would never throw a racket into the camera guys. >> reporter: never. >> thanks, my friend. i pressured it. in just hours, millions of americans could be evicted from their homes. congresswoman aiyanna pressley joins me, next .
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health battle against covid, but vaccine resistance remains stubborn and deadly. infections are climbing in every state, and the more contagious variant now accounts for 90% of the new cases. you have questions, and actually, so do we. here to answer those questions, dr. william shaft ner. dr. shaft ner, thanks so much for joining us. we've been looking at new cdc data. frankly it's been a confusing week, if i can be blunt, what it all means, but there's new data coming out 0.001% of individuals who are vaccinated have died. 0.01% of those vaccinated have been to the hospital -- sorry, have been infected. 0.004% of individuals vaccinated have been hospitalized. 165 million people have been vaccinated. what does that tell you?
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>> well, what it del tells me, t of all is the vaccines are working extraordinarily well. they're keeping vaccinated people out of the hospital. and even though you can get a breakthrough mild infection, you are protected from having to be in the hospital. at the moment, also, the virus is being transmitted very, very extensively and very rapidly in the unvaccinated population, and there is some mild spillover into people who are vaccinated, who can, nonetheless, the vaccines are not perfect, can get mild illness, but they don't have to go into the hospital for the most part. that's a great success. >> and extremely important context, given the week we've had. doctor, i want to move into some of the viewer questions. millions of american school kids will start returning to schools next week.
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it seems like all the trends are going in the wrong direction. kids younger than 12 still can't be vac nailed. how much does that worry you? >> we're all concerned, and we're hopping that everybody is doing everything they can in order to make schools safe. for example, all the of the adults associated with schools, not only the teachers, but school bus drivers, people who work in the cafeteria, custodians, coaches, they should all, by now, have been vaccinated. also, all those children, 12 and older, they should be vaccinated. in addition, we can do spacing so we do social distancing, good hand hygiene being emphasized, improve the ventilation. we can do all of those things, and some school systems even are making testing available. every school system can't do all of those things, phil, but every school system should do many of
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them, and the key to all of that, too, is masking. the american academy of pediatrics says when children go back to school, they should have their masks on. >> another viewers question, and i think this is an important one, are there any trials underway to determine if a booster would be beneficial for those who received the johnson & johnson vaccine. what's your read on this right now? >> a sophisticated question, phil. we call that mixing and matches. there are some studies like that underway here, they're doing much more of that in europe. it really does look as though it works. >> one quick question, the sophisticated question came from a viewer, clearly not me, i want to clarify that. one last viewer question, doctor. we're seeing pfizer promote the effectiveness of a booster dose. given what we know about the
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structure of moderna and ju&j, s it very likely they would -- >> it's very likely all these vaccines would function in a similar way. we don't need the boosters yet. we need to focus on getting doses into the -- because this delta variant is different from the parent strain. it's a new game. we really need to get everyone vaccinated. >> by far, the most important thing. dr. william schaffner, thank you for your time, sir. >> thank you. hours from now, millions of americans are facing the very real possibility of eviction. what are lawmakers going to do? congresswoman ayana pressley joins me next. can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for.
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tonight we have ne former py real and very dangerous attempt to try and overturn the election he lost. cnn's katelyn polantz has more. he quite literally took steps to try and overturn the election, do i have it right? >> reporter: that's right, phil, what we're seeing now is notes, essentially, that were turned over to the house oversight committee. we've known a lot about president donald trump's efforts to put forget this message that he didn't believe in the election results. but right now we're getting little pieces as the house oversight committee is investigating. they got a set of notes from the
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former deputy attorney general, richard donohue, who was serving at the very end of the trump presidency, but a call that donohue was on along with the then-acting attorney general jeff rosen and trump. that call took place on september 27. in it, donohue was pushing back to trump's discussion with him that he wanted to overturn the election results. donohue said we won't and we can't at the justice department change the outcome of the election. and the president then responded to him, well, i don't expect you to do that, just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and republicans in congress. so that gives us a new window that we didn't see before into trump's thinking at the time. it also does fit into this constellation of lots of pieces that we have learned since the election and the aftermath of it of donald trump publicly wanting mike pence, the vice president, to not certify the election
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results, and lawyers at the justice department bringing cases to the supreme court. all of these things are stacking up. the house committee chairwoman, carolyn maloney, after this came out said yesterday that trump was directly instructing the nation's law enforcement to take steps to overturn the election. trump says what he was saying was being misconstrued in a statement today. but at the end of the day, phil, the justice department has never uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud and certainly didn't take the steps that the president appeared to communicate to richard donohue. >> you make such a good point, it feels like every single week we're getting more pieces of the puzz puzzle and they're all going in the same direction. it's now vividly clear that what we thought was happening actually was happening. katelyn polantz, thank you so much for taking the time on a saturday. the push to vaccinate as
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many americans as possible against covid-19 has been massive. but making sure everyone has access, it's not easy. two cnn heros are going the extra mile to make sure people who serve don't miss out on these lifesaving measures. cnn's anderson cooper has more. >> reporter: in pittsburgh, dr. jim withers bringing medical care and now vaccines to those experiencing homelessness. >> can i take a listen? you have to go to where someone is and cut down those barriers. when you provide something that can save a life and the lives of people that they come in contact with, it's a really unique and powerful feeling. >> anthony, i just want to say hi. >> hi. >> reporter: in philadelphia, dr. wendy ross' low-stress, sensory-friendly vaccination cling for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities like autism, as a game changer. >> there's less waiting on line. we provide tools like fidgets.
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all of our vaccinators have experience with this population. getting the vaccine to this population is absolutely saving lives. i just feel that everyone matters and has value and that everyone should be included. >> to see anderson cooper's full story and nominate someone you know to be a cnn hero, go to now. thanks for joining me tonight. i'm phil mattingly. "cnn newsroom" with my guy ryan nobles continues after the break. cnn heroes is brought you to by rocket mortgage. need to know what it takes to fit a home loan to your budget and family? rocket mortgage can. go to to see
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tonight, muddled messaging causes confusion and hysteria about the delta variant surge. former cdc director dr. tom frieden sets the record straight. a woman in florida says she lost her mother, her fiance, and her grandmother to the virus in a single week, and only one of them had been vaccinated. also tonight, mask protests in paris against the so-called health pass that will force people to prove their vaccinated. and as a new day of events dawns, we're live at the tokyo olympics with news o


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