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all our vaccinators are educated to vaccinate this population. >> okay. good job. >> awesome. awesome. >> getting the vaccine to this population absolutely is saving lives. i just feel that everyone matters and has value, and that everyone should be included. >> to learn more go to yours "inside politics in the starts now. >> hello, everybody. welcome to "inside politics". a blistering cdc document says the delta variant is covid wildfire as contagious as chickenpox. >> we are becoming victims of the unvaccinated. you cannot avoid delta. it is not possible. >> and over the last two weeks not a single shift has gone by where there hasn't been a
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vaccinated person that i've still diagnosed with covid-19. >> plus who still hasn't gotten the vaccine and can they be convinced to get it? and the bipartisan infrastructure deal facing another hurdle this hour. progressives are not happy. some promise to tank a top biden priority if they don't see action on voting rights. a pathway to citizenship and police reform. up nfirst today, the war chz changed. the war has changed. that's the rethink everything take away from a brand new alarming cdc document that says delta covid variant is as infect x as chickenpox and new precautions are needed. days ago scientists put the delta variant on par with the common cold, believing each infected person transmit the virus to maybe two other people. the new analysis says each infected person on average is actually infecting eight or nine others. cnn national correspondent christen holmes with more on the alarming, alarming findings.
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christen? >> yeah. john, i mean, there's no doubt about it. these are incredibly sobering numbers. it gives us insight into what the cdc was looking at when it issued the masking guidance. so let's actually take a dive into what this internal document showed. it starts with exactly what you said. this is likely as infectious as the chickenpox. it spreads faster than sars, ebola, the flu and the common cold, and fully vaccinated people may spread at the same rate that unvaccinated individuals spread. that goes to, of course, what i was mentioning that cdc masking guidance that really lines up there. higher hospitalization and death risk to older groups regardless of their vaccination status, and here is what i think is the most important thing i want to point out. vaccines prevent more than 9d 0% of severe disease. the reason we have to emphasize this is because yes, the numbers are incredibly scary.
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vaccinations work. we've looked through the documents. they talk about a potential for a chun kags issue, because people are seeing this rise in cases or experiencing delta variant. they might not believe in the vaccine. and this data shows that that's not true. listen to how one top health expert put it. >> the average case of delta may infect more people and then we now know that at least according to this, that the severity of cases may be higher. we have to get more people vaccinated because this virus is better at its job than the original. we have to go back to more universal masking than what we have or this thing is going to spread like wildfire. >> so we have to get more people vaccinated. that is the key there. that's what we are all talking about. and when you look at this data, that is what this supports. again, vaccines prevent more than 90% of severe disease. so even if people are hesitant right now, even if they are saying they're seeing this in their community, they're
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experiencing it, they know people who are getting hospitalized, that should not scare them. what they should do instead is go out and make sure that they are vaccinated. the facts show that this could be an issue of life and death. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to have the severe illness? >> christen, thank you for the life update. the president getting a briefing on wildfires. >> you know, one month ago we convened a first what will be a regular presidential briefing on wildfire preparedness. we're joined by many of the governors who we were joined by many of the governors with us today as well as experts from across the administration and leaders from the electric utility sector. i said then that the threat of western wildfires this year was as severe as it's ever been. and in the past month, we've sadly seen the truth of that being played out. since our last meeting, the number of large uncontained wildfires has nearly doubled to
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66. 66 of those fires. the number of firefighters on the job, that battle them is tripled. over 3 .4 million acres have already burned. in argument, the bootleg fire has destroyed more than 400 structures. in california the dixie fire has grown to over 220,000 acres and our firefighters are working in really rugged and dangerous conditions and terrain. the number of states are experiencing the impacts of smoke from these fires, degrading the air quality and not just for the fires that are burning but all the states moving east. not all, but most. in short, we've got a big complex wildfire burning across multiple areas, and despite the incredible -- this is not being solicitous, the incredible heroism of our firefighters, our resources are already being stretched to keep up. we need more help. particularly when we also factor
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in additional nationwide challenges of pandemic-related supply chain disruptions. and our ongoing efforts to fight covid. we've had a few covid clusters at our fire camps. they have further limited resources. it's just one more reason why it's so darn important that everyone get vaccinated, i might add. sadly, we've also lost two brave firefighters in the last month in a plane crash in arizona and five were seriously injured last week, battling devil's creek fire in montana. it's a -- to state the governor, and you governors know better than anybody, it is really dangerous work. and it takes incredible bravery to do it. and these heros deserve to be paid and paid well for their work. that's why last month i was able to announce and it's not paying that well in my view to be honest with you, immediate action to make all federal firefighters making at least $15 an hour. i think they deserve more than
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that. we're also working with congress to make sure that our firefighters are paid better permanently. permanently. so far fema approved 20 fire management assistance grants. totaling up to $100 million. it helps states pay for the cost of fighting the fires. we're also working with fema and the defense logistics agency to get ahead of this emergency supply chain challenges and we still have some supply chain challenges relating to hoses and a number of other things. we're trapped -- we've tapped additional aircraft from the department of defense to aid in the fire detection and fire fighting. we also welcome the support of our allies from australia, for example, sending large air tankers to which -- that's going to begin flying missions this week. and last month i also noted that the epa would be launching an upgrade app for mobile phones to
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easily share location specific information with the public about the affects of fire and smoke and air quality. for them. it's now even more important, because smoke for many of the fires burning in the best and along the canadian border is affecting air quality in states across the country. as of today, the upgrade app, the upgrade air now app is live and ready for use. folks in affected areas should download this important tool as quickly as possible. >> you're listening to the president of the united states. he's receiving a briefing. you hear him talking about the urgent federal efforts to help state after state after state deal with wildfire challenges across the united states right now. we'll continue to track that meeting for news. we want to get back to today's dramatic breaking news from the cdc. i'll put it on the wall. the cdc updating the assessment of the threat of the covid delta variant. as of yesterday, cdc scientists
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rated the delta variant just like a common cold. as in if you were sick, you were likely to infect two people. the new guidance says it's much more of a threat. if you're sick, meaning infected with delta, you're likely to infect 8 or 9 people on average. think about the math here. infecting two in a common cold. this is like chickenpox. eight or nine people. that means the delta variant is more of a threat. now it's a conversation about what needs to be done to deal with the new science. at that point let's bring in dr. peter hotez from texas children's hospital and the dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor school of medicine. yesterday the conversation was this is like a common cold. be careful. wash your hands. keep your distance. you probably are going to infect one or two people. this is a new world, especially when you talk about the exponential growth of cases if one person is infected on arch eight or nine people.
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>> yeah. that's right. and the initial numbers we saw, we knew that this was going to be twice as transmisable as the original lineage. now we're getting higher numbers. we're not quite measles territory yet, but it's really, really infectious and contagious. and that's why this thing spread like wildfire across the indian subcontinent and the same in the uk and why it's going to happen in the southern united states and the mountain states where so few people are vaccinated. especially young people are vaccinated. the other piece to this that we're hearing and this is not as firm as the -- how transmisable it is, is whether it's producing more severe illness as well. and, again, this -- this makes us understand why the president was literally pleading with the country yesterday to please, please vaccinate, and you know, your heart broke as you saw him do everything possible, in his
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powers at the federal government level to try to get people vaccinated. but we still need help from the leadership of the states, especially in the south to take ownership of this and recognize that schools are about to open in the south in a few weeks. some of the perishes in louisiana, it's august 9th we're talking about. and i'm really worried with this highly infectious agent. a reproductive number of eight or nine meaning eight or nine people will get it if a single person has it. plus the low vaccination rates. 15, 16% of adolescents in many of the southern states, maybe 30 %, 40% of the young adults. and the refusal to implement mask mandates. this only spells trouble for the nation. >> right. and so to that point, i want to bring up this is how we know. about half of americans are fully vaccinated. this shows you by age. older americans tend to be more protected. they were first in line, early
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in line to get vaccinated. you see school age children. only 28% of children 12 to 16. 18 to 24 is 44%. a lot of this group up at the top here they're going to school soon. and again, if this doesn't show it to you, if you are unvaccinated out there and you don't get this, that if you're sick, you're going to infect two people as of yesterday. now know it's eight or nine. there are other ways to look at this. the numbers don't lie. this is where we were a year ago. 65,000 new infections a day. we're past that. 67,000 new infections a day. from that 65,000, we got up here into the horrific winter we all went through. so this we thought the summer surge was bad. then we had this. i want to put it into context for this. to the point you were making. on may 13th when the cdc relaxed the previous mask guidance, it thought and it was right, we were on a slope down. new infections were down. covid appeared to be under control or at least under better
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control. we got down here. to 11,299 infections on the 11th of june. you mentioned the global perspective. we know about delta. it's starting to attack root. that's where we were. we knew it was out there taking root. it's like a weed. june 22nd nd, 11,300. round it up, new infections. over a month later, just shy of 67,000 new infections. the question is if it's a weed and we're going up that fast, how high can we go? >> yeah. i mean, this is so heart breaking. i mean, we had the chance, i think, to vaccinate our way out of this epidemic. had we maintained high vaccination rates across the southern states and the mountain west and done as good a job as in vermont and massachusetts across the country, we would not be having this discussion right now. this is the reality. and john, remember, when you showed that average of adolescence in terms of vaccinated. that's an average. that's not the way this works. when you look at the numbers
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offed a december ends, 70% of the adolescence in the northern states are vaccinated. 17 % are vaccinated in the south. nobody is vaccinated. and we know what's going to happen. mother nature told us this over and over again. with each wave of go ko vid, this thing is going to accelerate with catastrophic consequences. >> i want to emphasize your point. i'm showing national averages when i show the numbers. it's different the disparities by region. this map helps with that. in 30 states, less than half the population is fully vaccinated. you see a lot of them are down here in the south. arkansas 36%. louisiana 37%. 34% in alabama. 39% in georgia. schools are about to reopen here. if you have not received a vaccine, look at these numbers. in states where you have more than 50 % of the population vaccinated, on average five people per 100,000 people in the
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hospital. in states where the vaccination rate is below 50%, the numbers are three times that. the numbers don't lie. and yet, there's still a lot of vaccine hesitancy out there. >> yeah. and, again, this is why the president's out there, why you see the surgeon general out there. it's why i'm out here. we're doing everything we can to get this message home. and i think one of the really important parts of this narrative that needs to be better told is one of the fakery that's out there and coming from the anti-vaccine aggression is they're saying hey, look, this is -- it's only -- exclusively old people who are going to get sick. look at the death rates among old people. no, that's not the way it works. we are now seeing lots of young people get hospitalized. even with the original lineage, the data coming out of the journal of the american med sal association a couple months ago sews 26% of young adults are getting long covid.
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we're going to have basically a generation of young people in the south and in the mountain west getting long covid. we don't know how long that duration is going to be. at least six months. in many cases probably longer. and then we're going to see a lot of young people going into hospitals. right now all we have are the anecdotes. terrible stories of young people losing their lives. we're going to see more of this. people will get scared enough and realize maybe this thing really is real. and get vaccinated. but we still have to find a way to get our conservative champions to step up. >> doctor, sober day. but appreciate your thoughts and ib sights. when we come back, the cdc warning adds to the urgency of getting a vaccine. a closer look at the unvaccinated. more than half of them say they will never roll up their sleeve. into this chip i invested in invesco qqq a fund that invests in the innovators of the nasdaq 100 like you become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq
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important breaking news. brand new documents provided to lawmakers show us now the depth and the intensity of the former president donald trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. mr. trump repeatedly pressured top justice department officials to declare the election corrupt, even though the justice department kept telling him they had zero evidence of major fraud. notes from december 27th call with the acting attorney general and his deputy record the former president saying this. quote, just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me. cnn's paula reed is with us to share more important information. we knew president trump was making calls to the justice department, that he was unhappy. specifically asking the then acting attorney general declare the election corrupt with the goal his allies in congress
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could use it to refuse the accept the electoral college. >> that's right. the words were say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and republican congressmen. these are notes from then acting deputy attorney general about this conversation, and it is remarkable. because these are additional details, additional evidence of exactly how the president was trying to pressure the justice department in the final weeks of his administration. to try to overturn the election. now, of course, the justice department is usually supposed to be independent of the white house. we saw repeated examples throughout the trump administration of how the president continued to try to pressure them. now, according to the new notes the president wanted the justice department to make this declaration so that he and his allies could then try to go and overturn the election results. if you see in the notes where the acting top justice officials say we don't have the power to overturn the results. they had no evidence of widespread fraud.
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the president said that's fine. he and the allies could take their declaration and use it in the efforts to joefr turn the election. an extraordinary instance of the president trying to pressure the justice department in his long standing campaign at the end of his administration, and donna hugh, the then acting deputy attorney general, he took these notes and another thing that's interesting in the notes that i came across is the fact that the president does allude to some of who the allies are. who he believes his allies would be including jim jordan. it's another instance of the president tieing specific republicans to this effort to overturn the election. >> paula, appreciate the hustle on the breaking news. significant breaking news. let's discuss it now in studio. on the one hand, it is not surprising. we knew the president was trying this. on the other hand, it is shocking the level of detail and the specific ask.
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we know he vents and complains. where's the fraud. to ask the attorney general of the united states to publicly declare the election is corrupt is an extraordinary what? abuse of power, overreach? >> all the above, i think. i mean, it's what we saw last year and what we heard about. we heard about state officials. we've heard about from members of congress. but to see it is still extraordinary, and it's exactly what president biden campaigned on. he said look, i'm going to be independent from the justice department. this is something that donald trump wouldn't do. >> and the biden justice department is turning the records over to congress. it tells me two things. number one, they are -- let's put sunshine on this. number two, i assume jeffrey rosen would get a heads up if this were happening and run for court if he objected. >> you would think so. this is shining a deeper light on it. as paula was reporting, perhaps another interesting thing is the degree and detail in which the president went in naming members of congress from jim jordan to
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scott carrie to ron johnson showing he'd been having detailed konss. he described the senator of wisconsin as someone getting to the bottom of things. jim jordan as a fighter. clearly trying to build his case here of a potential conspiracy. but this is what rudy giuliani had been saying into the former president's ear really from election day on ward. say it's corrupt. and we'll sort of fill in the blanks from there. that's exactly what mr. tdon hu is quoting. not giving details, but this is two days after christmas last career. this is the widen transition underway. filling in the blapgs of a chaotic and urgent scene in the 2.0. >> and the flaming red light, the former president can say it. we know it's not true. rudy giuliani can say it. he lost touch with reality a
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long time ago. for the justice department to say it independent of the president would have been a huge deal. it would have given the republicans in congress the foundation to say the attorney general said it's corrupt, so we refuse the accept the results. the chairman of the oversight committee put a tweet. she says trump directly instructed goj to overturn the election. she says i will use every tool to ensure all witness testimony is secured without delay. i assume that means she's asking for attorney rosen but we've asked this question in the context of the january 6th committee. >> that's the thing. over and over again we see how close this country came to having an election that would really be under question. it's under question now, but how close democracy came to not actually playing out. like, and all that was standing between us were these people at the doj saying we're not going
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to do that. but this matters, because you still have the former president making these same claims. you have the january 6th committee, but you have people saying that what happened on january 6th, that the violence we saw, you have lawmakers saying that didn't happen. you have a rewriting of history. you have the fights going on, and are you always going to have people at the doj who will stand up to a president saying no, say that election was corrupt? we don't know that. >> and so it raises a ton of legal questions about lines of authority, lines, lines between the justice department and the white house. i'll get to that in a second. the political question is we learn things about this. the president of the united states calling his acting attorney general saying lie, corrupt the system. and yet, we have republicans every day still kissing the ring of donald trump. still using him to raise money. it is mind numbing. >> yes, and it continues after that. we have to remember that this election, we saw record turnout among african americans, mexican americans and travel people. across the board they changed
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arizona, georgia, and parts of nevada. and then after that, republicans said well, we'll need voter restriction laws. that's occurring right now. not only is it occurring, but it's continuing. and we're having challenges to the supreme court. allowing people of color to vote and seeing these voter restrictions. he set the tone. he's sending dog whistles to say the number of people voting is corrupt. the republicans are saying we agree with you and need state laws to prevent it. >> elie honig, walk us through number one, i'm not a lawyer, i know this is grossly inappropriate. grossly inappropriate for the president of the united states to call the country's chief law enforcement officer and say help me lie and cheat. but walk us through the specifics of why this is such a morass. >> yeah. first, this is a closl abuse of power by the president. i think it's important we not take this for granted. we've seen plenty of evidence
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that the president was willing to do anything to overturn the election. here we are getting confirmation that he reached out to the justice department which really ought to be the last bas chan of truth and independence. he essentially asked them to make it up. doj told him we don't have evidence of that. and the president essentially said just say it and i'll take care of it from there. so it's an absolute abuse of power. abuse of presidential authority. doj deserves some credit here. i was certainly critical of the justice department under trump, but for taking a stand and doing what doj does and standing up for truth and in a sense justice as the name suggests. this really is an astonishing abuse of power by the president and there needs to be accountability in congress and potentially elsewhere. >> obviously chairwoman maloney says he's going to bring witnesses in the chair. it will be interesting in the former acting attorney general publicly testifies about it. appreciate the hustle. when we come back, another breaking news story.
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we thought the president's infrastructure plan would clear a procedural vote, but there's a hiccup in the senate. we'll tell you what's going on next.
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the floor of the united states senate, a procedural vote underway on a key issue for president biden. bipartisan infrastructure plan. the vote was supposed to be over, but there was confusion. procedural mix up on capitol
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hill. let's get to our correspondent manu. what happened? >> a fight, actually, at the last minute broke out between republicans and the senate majority leader chuck schumer about what the bill looks like. now, this is the result of the fact that this bill, 1. 2 trillion over eight years has not been formally released yet. there are different versions of the bill that are floating around. even though the senate cast the first procedural vote to move toward, and today is another vote to get into the bill. the legislative language is not even publicly available yet. senators aren't even clear about what they're voting on. the way the senate works is the senate majority leader after the vote can offer the first amendment as what's called a substitute amendment. it would be the underlying bill, $1.2 trillion bill. the republicans thought schumer was pulling a fast one. he would offer his own version of the bipartisan agreement.
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they pushed back and said they didn't want to move forward on this vote. so there have been delays. they fought about it behind the scenes for about an hour. rob portman, the chief republican negotiator came out and told reporters he got personal assurances from schumer that he would not pull a fast one and the underlying bill would reflect the agreement reached between ten senators from both sides of the aisle. so that's where we are right now and why this vote is moving forward. now, after today's vote, assuming this motion gets adopted which is expected it will, then it will be open to the amendment process where senators can offer amendments and offer changes. but to do that, it would require almost certainly require 60 votes in order to make any changes to the bill. so that's why it is so important right now, what does the legislative language look like? that's what ultimately could pass the senate and ultimately could potentially become law which is why this squabbling is happening behind the scenes fighting to get every provision right and get every pet
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provision that every senator wants here. we'll see what it looks like. we haven't seen the text. >> that is remarkable. thank you for clearing up the confusion. the last point, we've not seen the text. let's bring that part into the conversation with our reporters at the table here. it is stunning. we're going to get to a bigger spending plan in a minute. it's over $1 trillion, and members of the united states senate are casting a vote. it's not a vote for final passage, but still, none of them know exactly what's in the bill. >> it shows you how precarious every step along this way of this infrastructure battle is going to be. and it's going to be a play in 2 x. at least. it may be more than that. this is just the beginning of the bipartisan substitutions. never mind the house. there are deep concerns and squabbling in the house among house democrats about essentially how they've been railroaded. if anything gets this many votes in the senate, 67 votes to proceed, that's a clear sign that speaker pelosi is going to corral her troops and push this
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through. but we have to follow this. it's not a done deal until it's done. the one thing the white house gives them confidence is senator portman has a good relationship with people in the west wing when they're negotiating in good fate. >> and this lack of trust is one of the reasons. never mind the specifics of the bill which are kmp complicated and everybody has their own pet projects. but the lack of trust tells you this is fragile in the senate. for the sake of argument, and you can laugh at me next week, say it gets through the senate. then it goes to the house where democrats run the white house. they have a tiny margin. progressives say we're not voting on this until we see the second piece. which, biden has they call it reconciliation spending plan. it's supposed to be health care legislation fixes in it. expanded child care credits, clean energy issues. progressives say we want to see it and listen to one of the
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leading members of the progressives of the house say until we see that and know that everybody is ready to vote on that, don't count on anything. >> there is no path forward for a bipartisan bill that doesn't move simultaneous with the reconciliation bill. >> we've been very clear. we've got five priorities. if the priorities aren't met, there is not going to be a piece of legislation that passes. >> so fragile is an understatement here. right? >> yeah. well, this is the thing that got president biden into trouble a few weeks ago. he tried to put the two packages together and the republicans said no. here we see the house democrats saying it has to be together. fragile suspect the word. it's i don't fragile. two sides are saying two things. it's unclear what's going to happen. the five things mentioned, it's unclear they're going to be in there and unclear it's going to get through all the senate democrats, these moderate
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members that are just not sure about that. and you have one senator saying she's about to go on vacation, so hurry up. >> welcome to washington. and among the issues the president wants to put in there, and i'll try to explain this as clearly as i can. a lot of the proimpgressives do think the infrastructure package is big enough. they're willing to eat peas as long as they get enough of what they want in the other package. the president is trying to put another thing in, what about the dreamers. those who as children were brought across the border by family members or others who through no fault of their own are here and undocumented. we know what happened during the trump administration. president biden says i'm going to get it into the spending plan. >> how did your meeting on daca go? >> it went well. i think we should include in the reconciliation bill the immigration proposal. my staff is putting out a message right now. >> easier said than done. the senate parking lotmenttarian has to say it's okay. it fits the rules to do it.
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and then the politics of immigration. >> yes. and people are cynical right now. because we've been saying this since the 90s. we need immigration reform. and dreamers are in this bind. they were giving this pathway for residents, residential status and now they're in limbo. can they get this in this sort of reconciliation bill and right now senator shumer is trying to be kind of like the lbj but he's not as tall and can't give everybody the treatment. he's not in that position, but he needs to have this strategy to get this 50/50 split senate to get this over the line. can he do this with dreamers, infrastructure, and by the way, some senators are asking us, what do you know? is my broad band in there, the infrastructure? senators want this broadband. they want the infrastructure, especially with water. where travel governments are struggling with water treatment and clean water. >> water issues everywhere, but particularly in the west.
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vaccines are the best weapon in the war on covid ply is not an issue anymore. some 90 million americans eligible to get a vaccine have not. so what do we know about the hold outs? let's look at the data. this data, surveys done for axios. those are among the people who said i haven't gotten a vaccine, don't want to. 53% of them, majority, are hard pass, meaning they say never. no plans at all. 47% say i'm hesitant, but i might get a vaccine under some circumstances. among those who say maybe, maybe, i'm hesitant but maybe, more than half are women. 54%. 46% are men. the persuadable, potentially, half on them are black or hispanic. 43% are white. they say talk to me, maybe under some circumstances. what about those who say no, absolutely not. i'm not getting a covid vaccine. they tend to make less money.
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70% make less than $100,000 a year. they also tend to be less educated. half, 49% of those who say hard pass, no, never, go away, when you ask about a vaccine from high school education or less. 17% college. and there aren't many democrats in the group that say hell no. only 12% of the hard pass are democrats. you see 42 % of them are independents. 45% of them are republicans. if you have not gotten a vaccine and you won't listen to the president or dr. fauci or your governor, maybe listen here. to a patient. >> exhausting. extremely frustrating. tiring. and the fact that i am here now, i am furious with myself. >> why? >> because i was not vaccinated. i just don't want anyone else winding up like me.
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especially when the vaccine is so easy to get now. >> our panel is here to discuss. it is a difficult sales message. you have americans for different reasons saying no. some saying hell no. with the information about the delta variant, if you have it infected, you can infect eight or nine people. let's look at people who say maybe. half of them are black or hispanic. this is an effort the white house has said we're going to get into communities and knock on doors and find influential people. >> they need to start a campaign. you have black and latinos who live in places where there's no -- there are no newspapers. there's information. there's a lot of scatter, false information floating around, especially on social media. places like southern colorado. places like eastern new mexico, that's when you face the resistance. these are areas that want to go out and play football in the
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fall. they want the right to not wear masks. they don't want to be vaccinated but they want to spread the vaccine that's going to go on like chickenpox. that's a concern. they need to go places. i talked to recently senator cortez eae office. 33% of the vaccination rate, and those are mainly latino casino workers. that needs to be addressed. there needs to be a campaign to allow them free transportation for vaccine events. until then, we'll see the numbers. >> you mentioned the vaccine mandates kick in as more businesses say if you want to work here, you have to have a vaccine. let's look at it by political party. democrats are not the issue. only 12%. you want everybody to get a vaccine. you have a democratic president trying to talk to people to say get your vaccine. 45% of the people say under no circumstances are republicans. 42% of them are infeint. that's why i thought it was interesting when the president talked about this yesterday, he made a point of adding some republicans to the pitch.
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>> the vaccine was developed and authorized under a republican administration. i have to compliment republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. he hadn't made it political. alabama republican governor, cay ivy, recently spoke out to encourage vaccination. this is not about red or blue states. it's literally about life and death. >> you can say it's not about red states or blue states. it is about a democratic president. frustrated he can't reach the people. he has tried and tried and he can't reach these people. >> and you have some people who have gotten sick with the coronavirus who say they did not get the vaccine because they felt like they were conservative. it was a conservative -- they took it as a conservative position. we are a conservative family. we're not going to get the vaccine. that's how deeply embedded it has become. they feel like it's a part of their political identity to not get it.
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biden is not going to be able to make the case for them. as long as you have people in congress saying you don't need to wear a mask or raising these concerns about vaccines, i think it's going to be difficult, because a lot of people, they don't want to hear it from the government. they don't want to hear it from doctors. maybe their family doctors. they want to hear it from people in their community they trust. >> it opens up -- it's been open, but the new cdc data about how deadly and transmisable the delta variant is opens the conversation. if you look at the 30 states less than 50% vaccinated the data shows if your vaccination rate is above 60%, the hospitalizations are less. trump won 25 of the 30 states below 50%. >> it's not just members of congress. it's people in their community. people they know who are saying look, i'm not getting vaccinated. and local officials and president biden did compliment mitch mcconnell. there are a number of others
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saying i'm not getting vaccinated. he encouraged state officials to use money to offer $100 for people to get vaccinated. this morning you're hearing republican governors saying look, we're not going to do that. for everything that they're hearing from the government, they're also hearing it from the other side. it's confusing. it's a patchwork of different comments and laws and guidelines. they don't really know what to do. >> if they won't listen to a democratic president -- some are trying. a lot of the republican governors in recent says have said we're not bringing masks back. we don't trust the science of the cdc. >> exactly. and several republican members, texas, iowa, on and on. we're going to see, again, this r r red/blue divide. as we end the month of july, the white house thought it was a turning point in the paebd. it was, but not in the way they hoped. the question here is they're
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trying to go after the 47% who are at least open to this idea. and that would be a sizable chunk of people. some students going back to school will do it. some other people, the incentive question is interesting. the president talking about the $100 incentive. i was thinking back yesterday to the young man i met in cincinnati last week who said he was skeptical of the government offering all these things. he said if someone paid me $1,000 to jump off a cliff, i wouldn't do that either. it's unclear how much this works. through faith communities and doctors and families, that's where -- and probably at the end of the day, the people being afraid of the delta variant. that probably will drive this more than anything the president says? . >> i think the rising case count and the marketplace, employers, is going to drive this more than politicians because of the lack of trust in government. ahead for us, brand new information about the subpoenas we can expect from the january 6th select committee investigating insurrection. is mealtime a struggle? introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency
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topping the political radar, new word the select committee investigating the riot plans to issue subpoenas season. the chairman would not say when the subpoenas would issue or who would be targeted. >> here is the house speaker this morning swearing in the newest member of congress who will represent the sixth
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congressional district in texas. a republican who defeated another republican who had been backed by president trump in the race. democrats cling to a house majority. the win gives the democrats an eight-seat margin in the house. stay safe. we'll see you monday. ana cabrera picks up coverage right now. hello on this friday. the data is out. the cdc moments ago unveiling publicly it disturbing findings about the delta variant. it explains why mask mandates are back and how alarming this variant threat is to unvaccinated americans. here's what's key. these states are deep red because the delta variant is as transmisable as chickenpox, meaning if you have the delta strain, you infect up to n


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