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d'agostino helps hamblin back up. are you okay? -yeah. hello, everybody. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. the coronavirus is changing everything again. companies revising now when and how workers go back to the office. president biden today tries to break the vaccine impasse with a big change of his own. all but requiring the shot for federal workers. plus the bipartisan infrastructure deal survives the first hurdle in the senate. but there are big questions ahead including this one. can the president keep the democratic family from
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splintering. and a member of the capitol riot committee tells us where this investigation goes next. up first for us this hour, a seismic shift in the american workplace toward requiring covid vaccines. facebook, google, netflix, all announcing that all employees returning to the office must be fax vaccinated. morgan stanley and black rock doing the same. the growing change reaches into every sector of the economy. "the washington post," essential and history saying you want to come back to work, you have to get a vaccine. later today the president will put all federal workers and contractor or thes on notice, get a vaccine or face strict protocols, including regular testing and masking. we are starting off from the white house. a big shift from the president. >> there's no doubt. a dramatic shift in tone from president biden later today when
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we do hear him addressing vaccinations and covid-19. we're told by administration officials he feels like he's up against a brick wall. has been unable to breakthrough with almost daily pleading to the american people. they've tried incentives. it has not worked to the degree they would like. he's going to take it a step further. the ceo of the federal government, some 2 million workers across the government, he's going to gently require, not a firm requirement, but require a worker to get a vaccination or submit to routine testing that's designed to be uncomfortable. that's designed to not let people live their lives as they would like. urging vaccinations. john, we're told several things are behind this. if the federal government puts a requirement in place, it's easier for private sector companies to do the same. you saw the list of company after company adding their names to the white house, the president, trying to get ahead of this delta variant in many respects they're very much behind this. but the white house has always resisted using the word mandate. they do not believe it's good
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politically or good policy. they don't believe it would convince the hesitant to get vaccines. now they are taking a dramatic step further even from where they were several days ago byishing the requirement. i'm told the speech this afternoon, the president will be having sharp words for the unvaccinated as well as the vaccinated, trying to urge others in the country to get the shot. >> jeff zeleny live for us. a big day at the white house. let's walk through the numbers behind the shift right now. number one, look at the map. look at the map and look at all the red. look at the deeper gold. that's high and substantial coronavirus community spread right now. only 1 % of americans. think about that. only 1% of americans live now in areas where low community transmission. if you're in high or substantial transmission, the cdc says even if you're vaccinated, you should put on a msk when you go inside the delta variant is spreading. look at the red in the middle of the country, across the south and southeast. on this point, i want to bring
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in professor of medicine and surgery at george washington surgery. you know the state and the nastiness of this delta variant. the corporate sector trying to move this debate with the mandates. the president doesn't want to call it a mandate, but he is calling it a requirement. is that necessary at this moment and why? >> absolutely. look, i think we've been long due a vaccine mandate in the united states. and for viewers, you need to understand that the government can't not force you to get a vaccine. but there are now consequences for many employers around the country if you choose not to get vaccinated. 600 universities are requiring students and faculty returning next month to be vaccinated. and now we're seeing essentially a tsunami of private industry follow suit. i've been saying for a while that vaccine mandates are pro business. this is a pro business initiative. if your workers are sick and if your workers are quarantined or
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if your customers are at risk, that does not promote growth. i think the business community is finally really getting this done. as for the federal government, the federal government needs a vaccine mandate. not a mandate, not a vaccine versus testing. they are not the same. a vaccine prevents people from getting sick. a test tells you when you are sick. the federal government should simply mandate vaccines for federal employees. >> so not strong in your view. i want to go through the data behind the shifts right now. this is where we are right now. 64,000 new infections. that takes you a flash back exactly where we were one year ago. 65,000 new infections then. this is why businesses and the president and public health professionals and medical professionals are so worried. here's where we were a year ago. some mitigation was put in place. we came down some. not to a low baseline.
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look what happened. we lived through the winter. can we get this high because of vaccinations? maybe not. do we want to test it? definitely not. that's what has people worried including the leader of a major restaurant chain in new york city. not only should employees be vaccinated, if you want to dine, they'll require you to prove you've been vaccinated. >> we have a really serious responsibility to our staff members and to our guests to make sure that it is a safe working environment and a safe place to dine. if you really want to go unvaccinated, you could dine somewhere else and you can also go work somewhere else. >> walk through the importance of this. as you know, when you mandate things for people, some people say thank you. appreciate you trying to keep my safe. some people do the opposite. >> right. but there are people who have been on the fence waiting for a few things. they've been waiting to see if the vaccines are safe. and the pfizer vaccine, for instance, has been administered to a billion people around the world. so people should understand that
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we know the vaccines are safe. other people are waiting for a little bit of a sharp prod. and having their employer mandate that they get vaccinated is often enough. my employer, gw, will require all health care employees by october 1st to be vaccinated. we're seeing this around the country. look, we've tried the carrot. we've tried lotteries. now some people need to be told that as part of your civic responsibility and job requirements, you have to be vaccinated? . >> one of the things we watch every day is the numbers to see if anything is changing. certainly the case count is not changing in a good direction. let's look at the vaccination numbers. there's a slight up tick. we are nowhere near where we were in april with 2 million people getting vaccinated on a daily basis. 271,000 three weeks ago. 382,000 now. i want to zoom in on the map. the map here is vaccine
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hesitancy. the darker the shading, the higher the rate of vaccine hesitancy. it is no coincidence that you see a lot of darkness in missouri, arkansas, louisiana. across the southeast. that's where we see cases going up. listen to this doctor in missouri who says fear factor might be playing a role. missouri's numbers are up a little bit. a little bit. modestly among vaccinations. doctors saying people see the cases rising and some of them quietly. they don't want to tell their friends and neighbors, but quietly getting vaccines. >> they came to their own decision they wanted to get a vaccine. they talked to people and made the decisions themselves. but even though they were able to make the decision themselves, they didn't want to have to deal with the peer pressure or the outburst from other people about them, quote, giving in to everything. >> i can't wrap my mind around that. people who finally maybe belatedly but finally making the decision to protect themselves and their children, protect their families and neighbors and
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co-workers are afraid to tell anybody because they think they'll be shamed for getting a vaccine. >> exactly. think about it. we have almost 100 members of congress that won't tell their constituents whether they've been vaccinated. almost all of them have been. look, i think by around july 4th, many people in this country thought the pandemic was over. the united states was averaging just a little over 10,000 cases per day. hospitals were fairly empty in many areas. but the virus is back and the people who weren't vaccinated because they thought there was nothing to fear are now starting to get the message. that's why i think we're starting to see a tick up in vaccinations. and i hope that continues. >> help me with this if you can. i know part of this, part of this we need more data. we can't get there yet. i heard a doctor from alabama saying he is worried that as we head into the winter they could exceed where they were last winter. this was a national perspective. it's not alabama. we all lived through this.
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it was horrific. with the vaccination rate, i know it's lower than it should be. lower than you want it to be. but with about half of america vaccinated right now, can we get back up this high again? is that the risk? >> no, i don't think we're going to get back to the point where our hospitals all around the country were inundated. the big difference between now and last winter is that we now have over just about 90% of people over the age of 65 in this country vaccinated. and when you look at about 80% of the deaths in the united states have come in people over the age of 65. so we have protected the most vulnerable. and if you look at the current stats, while cases are up about 150% in the last two weeks, deaths are, quote, only up about 10%. because the most vulnerable are protected. i don't think we're going to hit the horrific levels we saw last year. >> but we don't have to go
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anywhere near them if people would just get vaccinated and protect themselves and their community. grateful for your candor and insights. up next, the senate bipartisan infrastructure plan is a big deal. but can the president answer liberal complaints and get it to the finish line? st friend to switch. feels moisturized and clean. my friend stefanie, her skin was dry. i'm like girl you better get you some dove. she hooked me up. with a quarter moisturising cream, dove cleans effectively and cares beautifully. (piano playing) here we go. ♪ [john legend's i can see clearly now] ♪ ♪ ♪ make your reunion happen with vrbo. your together awaits. vrbo
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the first step is a big one and proof washington can work. >> at a time when washington seems broken, this group of members behind me came together along with others and decided we were going to do something great for our country. >> the word in this town and all across this country from the nay sayers is bipartisanship is dead. that it doesn't work anymore and government is broken. and we are here to say no. it works. >> with us in studio to share the reporting and insights, jackie ka sin itch, and jonathan martin. so it is -- washington has not worked yet. it worked for a day. this is not to the finish line. it's a big deal they got the car on the track. here's what's in it. there's money for roads and bridges, railroads, you can see there's clean water in here. there's electric car vehicle incentives. it goes across the board in terms of physical infrastructure
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that most people in america say creates jobs, addresses needs in my community. however, a senate bipartisan deal to get to open debate is not a law the president can sign. there are a lot of hurdles to go. >> it's not even text. we should be clear. >> there's not even text. >> but this is a vindication for bidenism. bidenism, at least for a day has triumphed. he got heckled by his own party. a lot of nay sayers in 2019, 2020, you're living in the past. you can't get bipartisan support for a big bill. those days are over. mitch mcconnell is hopeless, don't bother. mitch mcconnell and schumer voting for the same bill. joining with the california and new york delegation. are they going to abandon the final passage? it's on track. joe biden said i can make washington work again. he's right in the senate. >> it's a participation trophy
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so far, not a championship trophy. >> it's the first half of the game. >> now back to the congress. out of the stadium. biden invested a ton in this. meeting of the ohio minds. but -- and they invested. the biden administration has invested a lot of political capital into making end roads with the progressive caucus. whether it's enough. we've been told they have an open line with ron klain. the white house chief of staff, but will it be enough to make them vote for this, to swallow this? that majority is not guaranteed going forward. >> that's one of the key questions going forward. can nancy pelosi keep democrats in line, especially as you have seen some progressives already out the gate criticize this agreement and signal the reservations. can they move it through the house without making any significant changes that will kick it to the senate and
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jeopardize the deal. and separately, there is a deal track that president biden has said he will pursue for what democrats are referring to as human infrastructure. other key domestic priorities like paid family leave, expanding medicare. that's a $3.5 trillion package that will also need to have support from every democrat in the senate to pass it through reckon stilluation. all eyes will be on senators joe manchin and koiersten cinema. >> that's where it's important. on this day where it's a big deal and you think all of washington says a long way to go, but let's celebrate if we talk to each other, we can do things that matter in the country. you mentioned senator cinema. the progressives in the house say we will not do this plan unless we get the bigger human infrastructure plan. he said i've told leadership and biden i support the goals in the plan but i've also made clear while i support beginning this process, i do not support a bill that costs $3.5 trillion.
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that is already way below what house progressives want. you'd ask progressives to eat their peas at $3.5 trillion. alexandria ocasio-cortez jumps in and says good luck, tanking your own party's investment. you can read on child care and so on. immediately back to a family feud that the president is going to have to referee. it's not going to be easy. >> yeah. i do think you have some of the president's advisers going out today, sort of laying the ground work for their defense. you know, you have cedric richmond, chris coons going out saying these are all the things that this bill would bring. and if you're going to vote against these things, these are the things you're getting against. like getting led out of schools and all that stuff. there's already somewhat of a small defense going on from the white house. >> but it's the small defense, can it be convincing enough to convince house progressives. >> he says t both of the bills or neither. you have to start a negotiation somewhere.
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i don't know if it will stay there. >> the coops of the world have to say that to keep the progressives in the family. the question now, let's say the senate moves the bill. it gets whatever, 70 votes, 69 votes. the question becomes what does pelosi say when her moderates come to her, the problem solvers come to her and say we can't wait forever for the senate to move on another large bill. we've got to take the burden hand and we have to vote right now before facing a tough midterm. we have to give folks a victory to go home to have this. >> or what does she say on the flip side? the next meeting is with the progressives who say we want to change it. even at this price tag, even if you keep it at that price tag, many say we want to spend more. let's change things. if you change anything in this and send it back to the senate, you're going to lose them. isn't the likelihood the 17 republicans that voted for this, most of them will say adios? >> right.
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republicans expect to be able to support the legislation if it stays within the contours so far. any significant changes to the compromise imperil the chances. that's a question for democrats. are they going to threaten what will be president biden's first major bipartisan legislative agreement? because democrats did pass the covid relief package that fell along party lines. and so this would really i think be the test to jonathan's point of really the premise of his candidacy. he's uniquely positioned to unite. when was the last time it was not emergency leaf or must-past legislation? >> it would be a huge deal. again, part of the complication is cinema says the price tag is too high. listen to joe manchin talking today saying i'm not sure, but i'm not ready yet. >> i'm keeping an open mind looking at everything. >> you could support a bill that high? >> i'm not saying i can or can't but looking at everything out of respect for any colleagues. >> we look forward with the
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budget resolution? >> we should. you've got to get on the bill to work it. but there's no guarantees. >> truer words have not been spoken. there are no guarantees. it falls on the president who has to manage his friends in the senate. he knows joe manchin well and the newer progressives, many of whom have never had to sit in the room and say will i take half? will i take a third? there are only about 8 85 house democrats who have been in the situation. how much are you willing to compromise for the good of the family as opposed to what you ran on? >> and many of them who got elected to push the establishment. to do big things. to not accept compromise, and for whom sitting down with republicans and having a compromise conversation doesn't work. the question is who is joe biden and the progressive caucus going to lean on or talk to or have a conversation with to try to sway them a little bit? >> the car is on the track. that's a good deal. you want something -- >> real fast, there are a few more bitter pills for house member to swallow than taking a
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senate bill and casting the vote on it with -- no, i mean -- >> the old joke in the house is the other party isn't your enemy. the senate is. that's a tough deal for them. >> it's a complicated onion in washington. we'll follow it. next, will donald trump be on the list of subpoenas ahead? gold. your strategic advantage. my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind
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the chairman of the january 6th select committee says he wants to get straight to subpoenas for key witnesses and documents and a decision by the justice department this week could help clear a path for some former trump officials to cooperate. who should be on the initial witness list? we have a member of the select committee. congresswoman, grateful for your time and for the work of the committee. i'm going to put on the screen a list of some potential witnesses. they include the former acting attorney general at the end of the trump presidency, jeff rosen. his boss before that, bill bar, mark meadows. others could be among the witnesses. in the washington post today, interesting reporting about rosen. he was in the trump administration. he was attorney general. president trump called his acting attorney general nearly every day at the end of last year to alert him to claims of voter fraud. and alleged improper vote counts in the 2020 election. we know that mr. rosen, smartly
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ignored the president. because he knew there was no serious fraud. but in your view, who should be in the chair first before the committee and why? >> well, i hope you'll forgive me for not saying who should be first. but we will be issuing a series of subpoenas. we will, i'm sure, first be interviewing the potential witnesses in a deposition typesetting before we have a public hearing. our goal is to find all of the facts. what led up to january 6th. who was involved? obviously there was preplanning. you don't show up to a rally in a bullet proof vest with weapons. so who funded it? who coordinated it? >> you just raised the yes, you don't show up at a rally with a bullet proof vest. i'm assuming you're talking about moe brooks. i was warned on monday there might be risks associated with the next few days. i did not go to hi condo.
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i slept on the floor of my office, and when i gave my speech, i was wearing body armor. he said it was time for those meme to go kick ass at his speech. do you know him to answer who told you there were risks and why were you wearing body armor? >> actually, the body armor i was referred to was that worn by the rioters. i'm sure we'll want to talk to members of congress to find out what their activities were, and many of them, and i think all that have spoken publicly, have indicated they have nothing to hide. they will certainly cooperate with the committee, and that would be my expectation. >> we'll see if that proves true when you issue the subpoena or invitation. whether what they've said in advance ends up to be their posture. among, jim jordan. he said he speaks to president trump frequently and including on that day, january 6th, he
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told this to cnn. i have nothing to hide when asked if he would testified. he suggested republicans would respond by trying to desuppose democrats like adam schiff and eric swalwell. should they take the majority next year. does a threat like that bother you? >> it sounds like he's got something to hide and he's trying to threaten people so he won't be called. but i think we need to find out everything that happened on that day and proceeding it. and that includes people who were communicating with the then president, and apparently that includes our colleague, mr. jordan? . >> do you see it as a fruitful enterprise to try to question donald trump himself? or do you think that would be a waste of time and it's better just to question everybody around him and build the documentary evidence of where was he? who did he meet with and speak with? >> well, i don't think we've made that decision. we'll follow the facts where they lead up. i am mindful that the former
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president has a veracity problem, and so that has to be factored into the decision making. >> i want to ask you lastly, congresswoman, before we go. we were talking about so many things before we came on air that are connected. the threats against local officials around the country. republicans continue to perpetrate the big lie. a complete lack of trust and respect among a lot of people here in washington. the speaker the other day called kevin mccarthy a moron because of what he said when she put in place with the house physician the mask policy. again, in the house of representatives. i want you to listen to the leader this morning. the republican leader. >> we believe in science. and we want a speaker that will take the time to understand the science instead of calling people names. >> let me do a little fact check on that. he says we believe in science. a good piece of the republican conference either has not been vaccinated or won't tell us if they've been vaccinated. that's why the house physician believes it's safer to wear a mask on the floor. but where are we? you served in washington
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including as a staffer back in the nixon impeachment days. you've been here through the highs and lows. where are we in terms of if we can't agree on a basic self-protections against a pandemic, can this town work? >> well, i've just got to say the minority leader and many of my colleagues on the republican side have been just whining big time act the mask. who likes to wear a mask? i don't. but i'd rather do that than give covid to children too young to be vaccinated. so let's stop thinking that the rules don't apply to us because we're so special that we're in the house of representatives. come on. get a grip. do what's responsible. and let's get to legislating the people's business instead of whining ing about your circumsts and having to wear a mask to keep other people safe. it's ridiculous. >> you've known a speaker a long time. a friend and fellow californian.
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when you hear her say moron, where is that frustration coming from? she respects the institution and the titles. for that to come out tells me this thing has disend grated. >> well, you know, the house of representatives is still functioning. we are despite where differences, working on bipartisan issues in many cases, the science committee just reported out some by voice vote. a number of issues. those are not newsworthy. but certainly the minority leaders' statements are disappointingly incorrect. and he seems untethered, really, from reality. it's very difficult to deal with. >> congresswoman, grateful for your time and we'll keep in touch. thank you so much. up next for us, we'll continue the conversation about refusing to mask up. there is high drama in congress as the mask mandate returns. only pay for what you need! o! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual!
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and vaccine hesitant americans are putting progress at risk. the president is requiring covid vaccines for federal workers and contractor or thes. you write about this in the journal. this is a big shift for the president. not a mandate, but a requirement or else you have to wear a mask and be distanced and tested all the time. explain the frustration. >> the white house did not anticipate the vaccinations would slow to the pace it has. it's one of the more robust actions president biden is taking to try to ensure vaccinations. it's not a mandate. he's expected to require that workers go under mitigation measures. we're seeing a number of private companies adopt a similar policy. i think this is a way for the president to signal to local officials, to the private sector that perhaps we need some kind of vaccination requirements, especially as the delta variant
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is surging across the country and really threatening to imperil the progress that has been made in the fight against the pandemic. >> and to imperil biden's political status, too. this is a pivotal moment for biden. if you look at the data, he does the best with voters when it comes to his handling of covid. where we does well is on covid. if he loses that, that creates challenges for him. >> that's his -- with the requirement debate, the marketplace driving much of it, you're right about that. that's important. now we have the renewed mask debate. the cdc says if you're in a moderate transmission area, put your mask on even if you're vaccinated. this is playing out in washington. first a house republican says the house attending physician said let's wear masks indoors when you're in the house. office building or on the floor. republicans say no. >> when you say we have to wear masks, we're sending a signal to our country to lay down in fear
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for our kids have to be in the corners. and here we are saying oh, we're going to have to wear masks on the floor of the house but do nothing to stop the flow of people coming across our border. >> remember half or more of house republicans are not v vaccinated or will not tell us. that's why a moment ago someone said give me a break. >> the minority leader and many of my colleagues on the republican side have been whining big time about the mask. i mean, who likes to wear a mask? i don't. but i'd rather do that than give covid to children too young to be vaccinated. let's stop thinking the rules don't apply to us because we're special and we're in the house of representatives. get a grip. do what's responsible. >> so my colleague wrote in his piece today the house is devolved into the physical equivalent of a physical angry
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facebook comment board. that's a good way to describe it. stepping back from the theatrics in the house of representatives, there's a lot of confusion in the country about whether to mask, whether to not, and it is slightly impractical to expect people walking out of their house to be like what's the transmission rate in my county? and the inconsistency, i think has really -- has rattled some folks out there. while we're seeing -- it would be ridiculous in congress. they're reflecting frustration in the country about the changing rules. >> i think that's also why you see biden be careful in his wording. when you start putting out words like mandate, and have to, forced, it invokes this kind of reaction, and eventually just descends into the facebook comment board or something like that. especially with the additional confusion. >> swooel see.
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today marks a giant and important shift in the american workplace toward requiring covid vaccines. president biden issuing a requirement for federal workers either get a vaccine or be subject to regular covid testing. and mitigation rules and corporate america getting bullish on rules.
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our next guest is at the forefront of this fight. the ceo of methodist hospital in fact the first major hospital to make vaccines mandatory for employees in april. dr. boom, thank you for your time today. we put up companies on the screen, across the economy now, people saying what you did back in april, they view it as necessary. is it working? >> it's worked really well for us. we announced back march 31st, june 7th deadline. as a hospital system, we have a sick red obligation to keep our patients safe. we see the most vulnerable in society. very appreciative to our employees who rolled up their sleeves, stepped up, did the right thing and got vaccinated. we were able to achieve near 100% vaccination. we lost about half a percent of the work force. 26,000 individuals work at houston methodist.
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we lost 153 individuals who did not want to get vaccinated. about 1% of people have an exemption for a religious reason. 1% to deferred until after pregnancy. 98% of people are walking around vaccinated. and we've watched dozens of hospital systems follow suit. all the major hospital societies, et cetera, recommending strongly that health care institutions -- i. >> did we lose the signal? we got you back? sorry. we had a glitch there. welcome to the technology of today. so your system, your -- >> i'm sorry. >> it's all right. you're setting an example at what has become another testing time. another testing time in the sense that you mentioned -- told our staff 17 days ago you had
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109 covid patients, today you have 374. what are you seeing now and what's the difference between over the winter? >> it's a different scenario. it's a younger population on average. and mostly unvaccinated individuals. more than 85% of people who are admitted unvaccinated. we're seeing that group of people with an age range that's about 14 years younger than we saw before. unfortunately, we are seeing some vaccinated individuals. they tend to be older. they tend to have underlying illness like a transplant or cancer illness. that's been a problem. we're also seeing that group as an average age of 69. versus 51 on the unvaccinated. so there's a big difference there. but very importantly, that group of older people are only using icu about half as often as that group of younger people who are unvaccinated. we're seeing milder disease even in a very sick older population of vaccinated individuals.
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the fundamental answer is get vaccinated. protect yourself. protect everyone else. >> and to that point, that's one of the goals of your mandate there. get your workers that you did effective in june. it's one of the reasons the president is going to speak about federal workers and we're looking around. we can put a map up of people fully vaccinated around the country as a percent of population. it varies from place to place. and it's no coincidence, i'm sure you would agree that we have rising case counts. cases are rising fastener places with -- you see evidence of an up tick. this past monday was your highest vaccine day since mid may. why do you think? is it fear or public education or mandates? is it everything? >> i think it's probably a little bit of all of the above. but to be honest, i think the biggest issue is people now see how significant the delta variant is. that it is surging quickly. so if you go back a couple months ago, an individual might look at things and say i'm okay.
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everyone around me is vaccinated. things seem to be quiet and they're holding off. they're realizing it was a mistake and this is going out of control. unfortunately, while we've seen an up tick, it's not enough. we've seen an up tick 40week ov long way to go and a lot of people to vaccinate. we urge everybody, roll up your sleeve, get vaccinated. protect yourself. let's get out of this delta surge and not have young people getting admitted to the hospital, getting sick, and sometimes dying. it's all avoidable, and we need to work together to avoid it. >> doctor, thank you for your time. appreciate your hard work on this issue. we'll be right back.
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in california. >> that's the massachusetts senator, elizabeth warren, former president candidate, linking to restrictive voting against the country including the former president. thank you for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow. ana cabrera picks up right now. thanks for being us. we are entering a new era in the pandemic fight in the u.s. vaccine requirements. soon president biden is expected to say all federal employees will have to prove they're vaccinated or face strict routine testing. corporate america already going there. facebook, google, netflix and more now requiring or mandating shots. the resounding message here, get vaccinated or get a new job. all as the delta variant is fuelin

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