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country. yesterday new york city near 90 degrees. how does 74 sound for tomorrow. cnn "new day" continues right now. ♪ welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world, it is wednesday, july 28th, and no one on the planet, no one, can beat her. but mental health is proving to be a formidable opponent for simone biles. the breaking news this morning is biles announcing she is pulling out of tomorrow's all around final, the individual competition. usa gymnastics saying she has their support. of course biles withdrew from the team competition one day earlier after she stumbled during a landing from a vault. here is what she said about it yesterday. >> i was just like shaking. could barely nap. i've just never felt like this going into a competition before. once i came out here, i was like, no. mental is not there. so, i just need to let the girls do it and focus on myself.
>> joining us now is sports psychologist jared spencer. i'm so glad you're here because we're in this mental health moment right now where i think the world is beginning to focus on something which is so important. one of the questions i think people have this morning when they look at simone biles, who is the greatest gymnast ever and for my money the greatest athlete on earth right now, and they say, well, how did she get through qualifying? how did she win all those titles? how did she get to this point to be at the olympics in tokyo only to have the weight of the mental health issue being so immense that she couldn't compete. how could that be? >> even she has a limit. and the truth is, john, like we all have that point where we begin to break down emotionally. and even though she's obviously got the skills and ability to manage in a pressure cooker at a very high level, even simone has a threshold.
once that threshold is crossed where you, me, anybody else out there, it's a very different version of ourself. simone realizes that about herself. >> what risk would she have posed to herself had she competed? the reason i ask is when you watch her do what she does with the twists and the turns and the flips, her head is circling six inches off the ground at a velocity i can't begin to imagine. >> yeah. that's a great question. i actually talked to two top gymnastic coaches about this very question. what they told me was this, simone's level of skill is like nothing else the world has ever seen. so if the mental side of her performance isn't there, she literally is potentially risking catastrophic, life-long injury. so it's not surprising she might say, i don't want to have that happen if my mental focus and ability isn't there, it's not worth the risk. >> so one of the phrases that i think people who don't frankly
understand what's going on like to toss around is toughness. why toughing it out. well, talk to me about what mental toughness really is because doesn't it take a certain amount of mental toughness to tell the world that you are not feeling well enough to compete? >> well, we're redefining that word. we think about mental toughness, for a long time it's been suck it up, don't whine, don't complain and pretend like nothing is bothering you. and that paradigm has shifted and now it's a matter of mental toughness is really being able to say it's okay not be okay. i'm struggling right now. i need a little bit of help. that for today's athletes is really what mental toughness is all about. >> so she's taken herself out of the all around competition. a few days after that, some of the individual competitions, which she's qualified for, she's more than qualified for, she's really the best on earth at so many of these events any way, do you think it's possible that she
could get herself in a space where she felt comfortable, safe enough to compete there? >> well, of course i don't know simone, i never worked with her. but you, me and everybody else would love to see her rally and find somehow the mental capacity to get back out there and compete. so i think we're all rooting for that and i think we're opt opti optimistic, yes, it might occur. but it's a time and place and history the world will say to her, we've got you. we understand it. because at this time in the pandemic, like who among us isn't really struggling at some point along this journey? and for this pressure cooker to be so big and the whole world be looking at her, i think most people would give her a pass today and say we understand. we get it. we're cheering for you. but we do understand that this is just not wise for you to move forward. >> that's a great point and you said it so well. she's given so much. you know what, we got you.
we're here for you now, simone biles. thank you for everything you've done. jared spencer, i appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you. >> my pleasure. as republicans dodge questions and refuse to watch the emotional testimony from four capitol police officers, four officers, some capitol police officers, some d.c. metro, testifying about the january 6th attack, this sparked a fiery exchange at a house committee meeting last night with democrat jamie raskin confronting republican andrew clyde over clyde's comments comparing the capitol rioters to tourists. let's watch. >> did you watch the testimony of the capitol officers who defended our lives on january 6th? or did you not? it's a yes or no question. >> it's irrelevant. it's absolutely irrelevant to this amendment right here. i would like to stick to it. >> okay. i'm reclaiming my time, sir m. >> is that what you want to do, mr. chairman? >> excuse me, mr. clyde. i have the floor, not you. >> our colleagues have taken us
down the road of quotations and we have somebody with a quote right in the room. i thought i would check it with him. he refuses to say whether or not he heard the capitol officers who risked their lives. and have experienced traumatic, medical injuries. he refused to say whether or not he watched them today. under the first or fifth amendment he doesn't have to testify about it. but i want to ask you this, they were asked the question by several of our colleagues, including ms. cheney, about statements that you made, saying that the january 6th violent insurrection against congress was akin to a normal tourist visit. and those officers said, they weren't tourists. they were terrorists. do you stand by your statement that they were tourists? >> um, i would like you to quote
my exact statement. not your interpretation of my statement. >> okay. watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and watched through statutory hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the ropes taking videos and pictures you know, if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist. those are your words. >> i stand by that exact statement as i said it. >> okay. do you agree or disagree with the officers who spent four or five hours battling that medieval mob that had baseball bats and lead pipes and so on, do you stand by the statement that the people that they were fighting were tourists? or would you agree with them that they were terrorists? >> that statement did not say that those people were tourists. okay. read the statement. >> well, i'm asking you now. you got the opportunity to clarify for the whole country
right now, for these officers, i urge you to watch it on tv. i urge you to watch it in your office. officer hodges, officer fanone, who experienced traumatic brain injury, had a heart attack after he was tased by some of the tourists or terrorists, officer dunn, officer hodges. do you think that what they experienced was an attack by tourists or terrorists or violent insurrections you have the opportunity to clarify for the whole country right now. >> if you will read the first part of my statement. >> you're not interested in my statement, are you? >> can you yield to me for one second? >> i have read your statement once. the whole country and lots of people online believed your statement that it was a normal tourist visit. >> that is not my statement. as you said -- as you quoted and then just misquoted. >> clarify right now for america. >> i just clarified for you. >> i spent several hours today with millions of americans
watching sworn police officers testify about their battle to defend our lives. the members of the house and the senators. and they took issue, not with -- let's put your statement aside because you think that you've been misinterpreted by people. but they're taking issue with an internet meme that the people here were just tourists. it was a normal day. and they were saying they weren't tourists. they were terrorists. how do you react to that? >> well, i'm not responsible for an internet meme. okay? we are here to discuss this amendment, mr. raskin. >> okay. so you don't want to answer the question? i appreciate that. i wouldn't want to answer it if i said what you said. >> we are here to discuss this amendment and you're obviously not interested in that. you want to make this another january 6th hearing. this is not. this is the rules committee.
>> reclaiming my time, mr. clyde. you voted no on giving congressional gold medals to the officers who defended our lives on that day. 140 of whom were wounded, injured, dozens of them in the hospital, people lost fingers, people had their eyes gouged, people experienced traumatic brain injuries, people were experiencing traumatic post-traumatic stress syndrome to this day and you voted no on extending congressional gold medals to them. why did you do that? >> again, that has nothing to do with this amendment. but you know what i will tell you -- >> oh, i'll bring it back to the amendment, mr. clyde. >> that i co-sponsored an amendment -- excuse me, a bill to give a gold medal -- three gold medals to the capitol police. all right, for all of what they've done. it was introduced by representative gomer. i'm sorry if you didn't understand that or didn't get that information. >> i'll reclaim my time.
>> i'm not going to vote to give speaker pelosi a gold medal because she is the one who -- >> excuse me. >> is in charge of the capitol police and the sergeant at arms. >> i'm sorry, mr. clyde. i'll reclaim my time. you're one of 21 members out of 435 who voted no. you voted not to award four congressional gold medals to the u.s. capitol police and those who protected the united states capitol on january 6th. i'm giving you the opportunity to tell us why you were one of the 21 members who voted against it. >> i just told you. and you obviously didn't listen. >> you told me about another bill you said you sponsored i never heard of. why did you vote no on this bill which was on the floor of the house? >> the particular bill on the floor of the house, all right, was not appropriate. it was not that the bill that was appropriate is the one i cosponsored. >> really. what made this inappropriate? >> because it awarded that those
gold medals to those capitol police for all of the times that they have defended this capitol. back in the 1970s, the 1980s, the 1990s, not just one incident. because i think they deserve -- because there were capitol police officers that died from gunshot wounds back earlier. did you know that? >> so you're saying this didn't go far enough? is that your point? so you wanted to give the gold medal to these people but you voted against it because you wanted to give it to them? >> no. >> okay. well, with that, mr. chairman, i would just like to say, forgive me, colleagues, but i spent four hours today with the police officers who defended our lives on january 6th. and the level of rhetoric in this room about defunding the police, and standing by the police does not stand up to what we heard this morning. and i don't accept it.
and i find the rhetoric dangerous, describing anything that took place that day as analogous to tourism. and i would urge my colleague to please go back and listen to those capitol officers and how they reacted to the idea that there was anything remotely analogous to a tourist visit in what they suffered on that day. >> i want to bring in former republican congresswoman barbara comstalk to talk about this. you accompanied them to their testimony yesterday, which was incredible. what did you think of the testimony and what do you think about this moment where you see a republican completely denying what happened on january 6th? >> well, donald trump, remember on january 6th, said remember this day always. and thanks to the four officers who testified yesterday and i know you'll be hearing from michael fanone yesterday, these heroes laid out an excruciating
and in painful detail what they went through that day. and i think the american people saw it unfiltered. they didn't have to see it through the eyes of a fool like that man you just saw representative clyde from georgia. i would beg any republican in georgia, anyone in the phone book, he comes from a very red district. anyone would be better than a fool like this who is doing you no good to be in congress. but what's so painful for these officers, i think, is they go to work everyday. with people they protect who they protected on january 6th. think what we realized, many of these members don't realize how close they came to real danger. how close these people were to -- if there had been one wrong turn, gone left or right, what they would have been in for with this very angry dangerous mob. and we also learned that there were weapons there. that some of the people there did have some guns. officer dunn talked about seeing
a gun imprint on somebody and of course none of these insurrectionists and i will point out that gold medal the officers got, they got it for battling, quote, the mob of insurrectionists who violently attacked the capitol. so, these were insurrectionists. even jim jordan voted for that to say that these were insurrectionists. very dangerous people. but now the american people got to see that unfiltered, through the eyes of people who protected our capitol and members and staff on the front lines. and i can't thank them enough. and i hope more members -- because i know even some of the members who didn't support the commission, they support these officers. and they need to thank them. and they all should be calling out somebody like officer clyde and their goofy g-caucus that had a press conference yesterday, gomert and gaetz and
marjorie greene to defend the insurrectionists. >> the american people got to hear, but people like andrew clyde say they didn't watch, right? so you have republicans who say they didn't even bother to watch. lauren fox who reports for us on the hill said yesterday she was watching police officers engaged. they wanted to see even as they were working and protecting the capitol what's going on. how do these republicans walk by those men and women who are protecting them and not even give them the courtesy of paying attention to what happened? >> well, i don't know. and i hope they really think about that because i know when i was accompanying those officers and the sicknick family around the senate to ask to have this commission, that so many of the officers were high-fiving has to guys and thanking them. and they do represent so many of the rank and file who may not feel that they can come forward because i think last night on cnn you saw the kind of
attacks -- the ugly phone call messages that michael fanone got left yesterday while he was testifying. we've all gotten some of those, liz and adam and others have gotten threats and gotten those ugly phone calls. but the thing is this is breaking down now. people are seeing the truth. history and facts are on the side of these officers. and now you're having this investigation, which will really be nonpartisan, i'm so glad you heard the chairman and liz cheney saying we'll get every phone call, every text. they'll get every phone call of donald trump from those days and leading up. mark meadows, who is going to be a key witness, not just him himself because who knows what he'll say, but his documents, his records, his texts, because he was at the center of dealing with georgia and with arizona, with the campaign people, harassing the justice department to do things. of course being involved in the rally on january 6th. and then being in touch with members of congress.
imagine that information trail and all of that that is going to lead to mark meadows. the american people are going to hear that. and i think donald trump is going to hear a lot of things that if he looked at any of these books he's going to realize a lots of people close to him are leaking out very unflattering things about him and his closest staff and i think it's a lot of his closest staff who are leaking out, hey, we tried to tell the guy there was no case here. >> we will see what this investigation uncovers and how quickly it can uncover it. but you were there right the middle of things yesterday. we really appreciate you former congresswoman barbara comstock joining us this morning. >> thank you. this morning, nearly two thirds of u.s. counties have high or substantial transmission of covid-19. and even if you are fully vaccinated and live in this sea of red and orange, the cdc is now urging you to resume wearing a mask. cdc director rochelle walensky explained the new science that led to this major change in guidance. >> in rare occasions, some
vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others. this new science is worrisome, and unfortunately warrants an update to our recommendation. >> and joining me now is cdc director dr. rochelle walensky. always a pleasure to see you. so exactly what problem does the delta variant create that masks for vaccinated people solves? >> good morning, john. thanks for having me back. so, this is -- we have new data here. we have always seen -- first of all, i want to reemphasize our vaccines are working just as we thought they would. with the delta variant to prevent severe hospitalization and death. we should be getting vaccinated to prevent severe disease in ourselves and to protect ourselves from the delta variant and from getting severe covid.
here is the new science we saw just in the last several days. with prior variances, when people had these rare breakthrough infections, we didn't see the capacity of them to spread the virus to others. but with the delta variant, we now see in our outbreak investigations that have been occurring over the last couple of weeks, in those outbreak investigations, we have been seeing that if you happen to have one of those breakthrough infections that you can actually now pass it to somebody else. we thought that was really important for people to know and understand because when people are out there vaccinated, thinking that even if they get mild illness they can't give it to someone else. if they're going to a loved one who is immuno compromised isn't vaccinated or couldn't be vaccinated we want them to take the protection to protect others. that was the new science that prompted the guidance. and you know, it was not -- it weighed heavily. i know this is not a message america wants to hear. >> just yesterday you also put
out, the cdc did, a new science brief which contained this sentence. these findings along with the early evidence for reduced viral load in vaccinated people who develop covid-19 suggests that any associated transmission risk is likely to be substantially reduced in vaccinated people. so even though that brief came out just yesterday, you're saying that's no longer operative? >> yeah. we are -- this, as i said, the science that prompted this guidance is just days old. and in the coming days you will actually see the published information on the science that motivated this change. >> okay. so can you quantify how much transmission of this new delta variant is coming from vaccinated people? >> what we know is the vast majority -- what you call the sea of orange and red on the map, the vast majority of that transmission is coming from unvaccinated people. if you look at that map, 80% of those counties that are red are from -- are in areas that have
less than 40% of vaccinated people. so our lowest areas of vaccinated people are producing 80% of those red counties. so really important to understand that the vast majority is occurring in unvaccinated people, but we wanted people who are vaccinated to understood they could potentially pass this virus if they were one of those breakthrough infections. >> well, predominantly this is something coming from unvaccinated people to unvaccinated people, correct? >> for the most part, absolutely. >> so then you can understand the frustration in those of us who are vaccinated saying, why the hell do i have to pay the price for this? >> right. so we're asking everybody in those areas of orange and red to mask up. here is the reason why, if you're vaccinated person and you're in one of those areas, as you said, a sea of red, a sea of covid, you have a reasonable high chance, if nobody is wearing a mask, to interact with people who may be infectious.
and so, for every 20 people, one or two of them could get a breakthrough infection, every 20 vaccinated people, one or two of them could get a breakthrough infection. they may only get mild disease, but we wanted them to know that they could bring that mild disease home. they could bring it to others. they think they're protected in terms of transmission. and we felt it was important that they know and understand parents, families of immuno compromised people, families at risk of severe disease that they should protect themselves so they don't bring ta disease home to others. >> again, this is just a small percentage of the concern. let's shift to schools, for instance, and ask you the same question i asked overall, what problem does the delta variant pose that masks for vaccinated students, and let's focus predominantly on those, 12 years old and older. i understand what you're talking about unvaccinated students and classrooms where no one is vaccinated, but for vaccinated students, what problem does the delta variant create that masks
solve? >> so, we've seen over the summer that there have been numerous school outbreaks in places that haven't taken the proper prevention strategies. our goal right now is to make sure that children get back to school, to full, in-person learning, full-time and have a relatively normal school year. as you noted, children under the age of 11 aren't eligible for vaccination as of yet. but what we're now seeing with this transmissible delta variant is 12 to 17-year-olds now, we still have about 30% of those vaccinated. so we haven't seen the vaccination rates in those people. we now have a very high transmission. the majority of people in our schools right now will be unvaccinated, just by virtue of the numbers. and we felt that it was really important to lean in and try and have our children back to school in the safest way possible and that would mean masking. >> now, the delta variant isn't making kids any sicker per se.
the statistics come back from children and covid from the uk, what did we learn there some 99.995% of the 470,000 children in england infected survived. that's incredible survival rate. the delta variant isn't making kids any sicker, is it? >> we don't have any evidence that it's doing so, but that's great news. but i do want to emphasize and i know all of the data -- and it is so true that all of the data say that kids do better than adults. transmission is less in schools than it might be in other places when prevention strategies are in place. but i think it's really important for people to understand that this is not a benign disease in kids compared to other diseases that our kids see. so if you look at the mortality rate of covid, just this past year for children, it's more than twice the mortality rate we see in influenza in a given year. >> if all kids in a classroom were vaccinated, would there be a need to wear masks?
>> we have always said that our guidance has to be taken to the local level. and this is -- i can imagine a situation where a school system might have all of their teachers documented and vaccinated, all of their children in a high school documented as vaccinated and very little disease in the community. right now we don't have a lot of situations that are like that, but i could imagine a situation like that and boy do i hope we get there as schools start to open and we have more and more people vaccinated and disease comes down. and that might be a very reasonable approach. right now we have very few places in the country where that is true. >> you can imagine a situation like that. can't you do more than imagine it, though? can't you advise it. there are vaccine mandates for measles and other things around the country in schools. why not mandate vaccines for covid? especially in kids 12 to 17? >> so, we are -- we can provide
this advice but can't mandate at the federal level. those are all jurisdictional mandates. we are hoping that our advice will lead to more and more jurisdictions leaning in towards to get more people vaccinated. >> is your advice that local school districts should mandate vaccines for children 12 and older? >> that will be a state level and leads to state level laws. right now we have authorized vaccine. we don't have fully approved vaccines. i'm hoping that might be more viable when we have more fully approved vaccines. >> but if they were all vaccinated it would make things easier, wouldn't it? >> it certainly would. i'm really all for leaning in to get more and more people vaccinated. whatever it is that that will take. >> what's the metric then for dropping the mask mandates -- not mask mandates, the mask guidance in schools? at what point will you say this is not something that we
recommend? >> i think if we see more and more people who are vaccinated, our children are vaccinated, we have full vaccination in schools, we have full vaccination in teachers, all of those are documented, we have disease rates that are low, then we can start thinking about what -- how we can loosen up and, you know, not seeing clusters ands you breaks in these school systems. the thing that's most important to me through all of this is that our kids get back in school full-time in-person learning. and we're not there yet. we're far from there. i want our children to be safe. >> goals help. can we put a number on it? right now you say in communities with transmission less than 50 cases per 100,000, that's the level where people in the community need to wear masks. what about schools? and communities with case rates less than 10 per 100,000. maybe that's something where kids won't have to wear masks in schools? >> i think if we had overwhelming rates of mandated vaccination would be one way to get there and we saw a lot more
blue on that map. as you can see on that map, it's more red and orange than anywhere blue. but if we saw a lot more blue on that map with high vaccination rates. to be clear, these will go hand in hand. if we have more and more people vaccinated we will win in this race and the virus will be less transmitting. and we'll be able to lift some of these things. >> i don't want to play the blame game, for vaccinated people, why is this happening to them? i mean, this is a situation created by the high numbers of people still unvaccinated in this country. is that a fair statement? >> this is a situation that is created by more and more transmission of the delta virus among people who are unvaccinated. this is not about who needs to take responsibility. that is not really why we put this guidance out. we put this guidance out because the science demonstrates that if you are vaccinated you could potentially give disease to someone else. and that was what was the motivation for this. >> and just last question
because i know they're doing it in europe but you're not cdc director of europe which i'm sure you're plenty happy about, they're issuing health passes there, you can go to a disco or discotheque if you have a health pass. is that something that the cdc would ever lean into or perhaps advise here? >> you know, i think some communities are doing that. and that may very well be a path forward. i do want to sort of comment that in some fully vaccinate d ve venues, if they're unmasked and few people transmitting there as a fully vaccinated person it is possible to pick up disease. overall, it's so very critical to just get the huge amount of disease in some of these areas down. >> again, for the vaccinated people getting it by and large, they're not getting sick or ill, they're just carrying the virus and can maybe then pass it on. the vaccination is the easiest,
best, most direct way to stay healthy and keep other people healthy. dr. rochelle walensky, i appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you. >> thanks so much for having me. hospitals in some states sounding the alarm. we're going to speak with one doctor who says the spread is happening too fast to even grasp. plus, how the capitol riot hearing played on some right wing media outlets for the people who really needed to see it the most. (realtor) the previous owners left in a hurry, so the house comes with everything you see. follow me. ♪ (realtor) so, any questions? (wife) we'll take it!
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chief medical officer at our lady of the lake regional medical center. doctor, thank you so much for joining us. how fast is the spread right now in your community? >> right now in the community the spread is exponential. and that exponential spread is because of the delta variant. we know now that delta variant carries 1,000 times more viral load and everybody who is sick with it and that spreads to more and more people than previous variants. last year's variant we thought was bad enough was far less contagious than this variant and that's resulting in just an exponential number of patients coming into the hospital. this morning we're sitting at 119 covid positive patients in our hospital, that's a 50% increase from just last week. >> we're looking at that chart right now. that incredibly steep rise you say exponential. you have your arms around it? is this something you can grasp? >> you don't get your arms around something like this. this isn't a controllable thing at this point. this is blocking and tackling. this is everyday making a new plan. we had a physician meeting last
evening. the e.r. physicians coming into the meeting looked a little shell shocked. asking about things like i need more oxygen tanks. there are people outside we can't get to that we know are hypoxic. how will we get those people in tonight? what are we going to do in the morning? this is an every 12-thun12-hour decision for our program. >> i can't believe what i'm hearing. this sounds like new york city in march of 2020. it sounds like right now you've got a run away situation? >> you know, it was so hard. we were hit so hard in march and april of 2020. but we never got to that point that we heard stories about in new york -- that was our conversation last night -- that it feels like we're headed that way. and now i can see what they were feeling and how do we take out that play book that we've been through multiple surges with
just incredible numbers of patients but we have never seen this cadence that speaks to the delta variant. it's more contagious, spreading throughout community too fast and mitigation measures just aren't out there right now. >> the patients, what's the vaccination status of most of the patients you are seeing? >> almost wholly unvaccinated. we are seeing some breakthrough cases, but if you look at everybody under the age of 50 and i say that again because under the age of 50 should be rare in the hospital, but today that accounts for about 50% of our covid positive patients. they are all unvaccinated. when you get to the elderly, especially over the age of 80, you'll find some breakthrough cases. these are patients we don't expect to make great antibodies and respond to the vaccine. we were supposed to protect them by being vaccinated ourselves. >> dr. katherine o'neal, i can hear the frustration in your voice. i hope you get the help you need. i hope this situation turns around some time in the near future but lit take work. it's going to take work and vaccinations from all of us.
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♪ the testimony before the select committee on the january 6th capitol attack warranted wall to wall coverage here on cnn. meanwhile, most conservative networks tried to down play and discredit the hearing and one seemed to pretend it didn't deserve coverage at all. cnn's brian stelter is with us now. not maybe too hard to guess which one, brian. tell us. >> trump's favorite channel one america news completely ignored the hear, only aired the gop's
counterprogramming. so imagine that the people that needed to see this the most, the people who don't believe there was violence on january 6th may not have seen it at all. fox and news max, yes, they showed the hearing live but surrounded with so much spin. >> reporter: for a few short hours on tuesday, fox and news max viewers did hear the violent truth. >> i heard people in the crowd yelling, get his gun. kill him with his own gun. >> reporter: but then right wing media reverted to form. >> i refuse to lead my show with it tonight. >> reporter: news max host grant dismissing the hearing. >> it is all theater. >> reporter: and distributing talking points heard all a across the right wing web, radio and tv. >> the video doesn't back up nearly all of it, one officer said he thought it was going to be the moment he died. well, there were no guns at this place. >> reporter: of course, there were guns.
and there were weapons that injured scores of officers. >> rebars, bats, pvc pipes, rocks, table legs, broken down. >> reporter: news max and fox did air the hearing live, but wrapped it in republican commentary. >> what they already know, this is a political stunt by pelosi and democrats and nothing more. >> reporter: and the whitewashing extended into prime time with pundits attacking the politicians who were at the hearing. >> we're defined by how we come back from bad days. >> kinzinger hadn't cried this hard since he drank too much rose watching the final rose ceremony on bachelor, the one they were mean to brianna. >> exaggeration in a supporting role. the winners, for best performance in an action role, the winner is, michael fanone. >> news max greg kelly went so far as to cast doubt on officer
dunn's account that rioters hurled racial slurs at him and other black officers. >> where is the audio? i've heard all kinds of audio. but i haven't heard that. i haven't heard that. and i doubt that. i do. >> reporter: audio proof, video proof, it's not. it's not a quest for proof, it's a quest for power. if anything, the hearing yesterday just intensified the backlash in right wing media, intensified the what aboutism, sadly never going to be a moment of national catharsis about january 6th. i think what i'm seeing right wing media hosts doing going deeper into rabbit holes of denialism, brianna. >> thank you for putting that together for us. brian stelter. >> there's an alarming surge in violence crime and it has frustrated police chiefs who are now speaking out. >> people are really mad as hell right now. i don't blame them. i am, too. >> one big city police chief joining us live next.
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a recent spike in violent crime in the u.s. has police chiefs in major cities across the country frustrated and calling for accountability. >> people are really mad as hill right now and i don't blame them. that's the reality. the other reality is i think that people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. i think that people want to ensure there is accountability nor what's happening. >> there is documentation in this city that violent offenders are being released back to these
communities that are seeing violence. >> let's talk about this now with art acevedo, the chief of miami police department and president of the major cities chiefs association. chief, thanks for being with us this morning to talk about this issue. i know it's concerning so many americans right now. why is this happening? and what do communities need to do to combat this? >> well, it's happening, first and foremost, because we have a lot of judges and prosecutors, attorneys, district attorney's across this country who are thinking their role is activist, to coddle and protect violent criminals instead of protecting vulnerable communities. the revolving door justice this country has turned into. it's time for the american people to speak up, pay attention and it's not just covid killing people. it's the activism of judges and prosecutors across the country.
>> so you're agreeing with the chief in chicago. what are you seeing specifically to that issue in miami? >> well, look, i'm fortunate that when i got here i kind of rang the alarm here in miami, and our judges here actually met with me right away. our d.a. met with me right away. i've only been here a few months. i came from harris county, which is the largest county in texas in houston where there are 100,000 cases waiting to go to court, waiting to go to trial. people going in, murder suspects on 100 bond, four, five, six bonds, criminals going out and killing people, hurting people. it's time to get the courts running. it's time to bring transparency to what the judges are doing and what the prosecutors are doing in terms of the violent offenders. the people of this country deserve safety, they deserve security and they deserve respect. >> you've also spoken out
previously about guns. what specifically would you like to be seen done? >> well, listen, we have seen the violent gang members have been committing so much fraud with all the covid money that is being given out by the government, that they're actually using this money to buy tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of firearms that are ending up in the wrong hands. it's time for congress, it's past time for congress to start dealing with the gun show loophole, background checks, having a real straw purchaser law going out after people buying the guns for these crooks. and we need to start having people that use firearms that hurt others go to prison. they're not afraid of death, but they are afraid of going to prison. they've got to be held accountable and the justice needs to be swift, not taking three to five years to get their cases through the court system. >> last -- well, this week, a
former senator, california senator barbara boxer was assaulted, and she was robbed, and this is what she said in the aftermath of that. >> we need to come together and we need to get at the root causes of it and we need to be very strong with tough love on our kids, real enforcement and more community policing. i believe in that and i always have. >> what do you say to that, a call for more community policing? >> you know what, community policing is about helping good people. justice and accountability is about holding bad people accountability. community policing is not going to be a -- stopping people from pulling the trigger. we've got to -- we'll continue to do our community policing, but we need people that are other parts of the criminal justice system to do their job, which is hold violent criminal accountable and start being transparent, stop hiding behind the robe, which is what judges do. they will never answer for their
actions. and start looking at this, media. look at how many of these judges are kicking cases for so-called no probable cause when other cause exists, the evidence is there, and they're just kicking cases because they can. it's time for people to start seeing what's going on with these activist judges across the country. >> chief, can i just ask you finally before i let you go, i mean, look, this is a complex situation. and you know that you are going to have some critics who say, what about the role of police in all of this? you know, they may -- you're pointing the finger somewhere else. what do you say to that criticism? >> i say that the law enforcement in this country, 800,000 plus police officers are involved in 1,000 shootings a year more or less. we have a thousand murders between chicago, houston and new york well over a thousand so far this year.
that's what we're approaching. we can do both. we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we can reform policing. we can make it better, but let's -- we'll point at what we think is wrong, we'll point at ourselves, ultimately it takes all of us going in the same direction. that's not happening now in our country sadly enough. >> chief, thank you. we appreciate you joining us. >> thanks. >> just ahead, the new simone biles bombshell overnight. the superstar gymnast dropping out of another competition. and new testimony and video evidence of the capitol siege. will reality ever sink in for the riot deniers? great tasting... mies aren't jut they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way to conquer your day. try centrum multi gummies. now with a new look. did you know diarrhea is often caused by bad bacteria in food? try pepto® diarrhea. its concentrated formula coats and kills bacteria to relieve diarrhea. see, pepto® diarrhea gets to the source,
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i'm john berman alongside brianna keilar on this new day. breaking news overnight, simone biles pulling out of the highest profile olympic event, taking the stand for her mental health. plus the cdc's new change to mask guidelines. what's the science behind the decision? dr. sanjay gupta joins us in just a moment. and a mother who lost her son to covid is now speaking out in the hopes of helping others. we'll have more on her struggle and her biggest regret when she joins us live. also a police officer who defended the u.s. capitol not backing down in the face of the abuse that he is now enduring after testifying at the first january 6th hearing. he will respond right here live. ♪ ♪