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with cases, hospitalizations, and deaths rising. the va is now mandating vaccines for front line health workers. and we're hours away from the first hearing of the january 6 celebrity committee. four hero officers who defended the capitol will testify. and this is from michael flynn, the trump ally who riled up a crowd less than 24 hours before the deadly insurrection and even called for martial law. now flynn, in a church no less, is given a semi-automatic rifle and jokes about taking it to washington, d.c. >> this is, uh, one of our top quality guns. >> maybe i'll find somebody in washington, d.c. [ cheers and applause ] >> i mean, and people laughed and cheered. you know what? tell that to the brave police officers who are testifying tomorrow. those american heroes who risked their lives to defend lawmakers and the vice president on
january 6. tell them your funny joke about taking a gun to washington and see if they laugh at it. i want to bring in cnn correspondent john harwood and political commentator charlie dent, a former republican congressman. thank you both, i appreciate you joining us. i mean, whatever. hi. we're just hours away from the four officers who risked their lives defending the capitol on january 6 testifying under oath for the first time. what else can we expect tomorrow at the select committee's first hearing, john? >> don, i think we're going to see something we haven't seen from hearings of this kind in a while, which is a serious-minded, thoughtful probe, because nancy pelosi has managed to make a bipartisan committee by picking a couple of honest republicans who are serious about what happened on january 6, in liz cheney and
adam kinzinger. and we're going to see something we didn't see, say, in the trump impeachment hearings, when you looked at what house republicans did then, they didn't care about getting to the truth, it was all air horns and fog machines trying to protect donald trump. and that is not going to be in that select committee hearing room. republicans will be displaying their pathologies like the one you played in that clip of michael flynn. you have the lunatic wing, gosar, morning arjorie taylor g matt gaetz, people who have been prosecuted for committing acts of violence, they'll be referred to as political prisoners, and the lying wing of the republican party, which is most of the rest of it, trying to blame this on nancy pelosi. you law saw kevin mccarthy toda
labeling liz cheney and adam kinz kinzinger as "pelosi republicans," which is really kevin mccarthy insulting himself. >> charlie, say pelosi should give the republican members of the committee an equal amount of time to make it look bipartisan. do you think there will be enough open minds to make a difference? >> don, i certainly hope so. pelosi has turned this into a bipartisan proceeding. i thought initially that she made a mistake by removing the two, banks and jordan, and then mccarthy made a mistake by removing the other three. but by appointing kinzinger in addition to cheney, i think there is an opportunity for the american people to hear from
serious, thoughtful republicans. and if i were pelosi, i would defer to them as much as possible, because they will make solid, rational arguments about what happened on january 6, they will try to find facts, and get answers to the big question, the big question being, why did thousands of our fellow citizens think it was a good idea to violently assault the u.s. capitol and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. so the more time kinzinger and cheney are out there speaking, i think that just adds to the credibility of the whole proceeding. >> let's hope she's watching or someone is going to tell her about it. listen, john, when i spoke to -- actually i think that's not a bad idea. john, i spoke to the president last week at cnn's town hall, he told me that the infrastructure deal could get done today. clearly that did not happen. you say this is about will, not terms. why is that? >> this is about whether those 11 republicans have the stomach to stand up and cut a deal with
joe biden when they know that much of the republican party wants biden to fail, believes that if they pass this bipartisan infrastructure deal, it will lead to the passage of a larger spending bill, the reconciliation deal, $3.5 trillion, that they really don't want. and so, you know, they struck this deal five weeks ago. they're haggling over small details. but when you get that close to a deal, it's about do you really want to do it. and that's what we're testing right now. there have been a variety of twists and turns. you've got laura ingraham, the fox anchor, saying last week, oh, these are useful idiots for the left. and that stings for a lot of those members. we're going to find out, they said they want this physical infrastructure deal, it's very popular with their constituents, roads, bridges, broadband, all of that. we're going to see whether they have the willingness to stand up
to the political heat and do it. they haven't done it yet. but they haven't walked away either. >> i have one more question for you, john. president biden confirming today that the u.s. is going to end the combat mission in iraq by the end of the year. the white house is not making it out like a mission accomplished moment, we all remember that. what's going on? >> well, this is largely in reaction to iraqi politics, because the iraqi government does not want to be seen as close to the united states. relations were inflamed when the trump administration took out general soleimani. the question is are they really leaving. u.s. officials, when briefing reporters at the end of last week, wouldn't say how many of the 2,500 are actually going to
leave as opposed to being relabeled as advisers rather than combat troops. this seems to be a significant amount of pr. but it's fraught, because it comes at a time, as you know, don, when president biden has committed to removing troops from afghanistan. conditions are getting worse with the taliban making headway. and so there are certainly downsides to withdrawal. this is a less stark case. we of course saw president obama pulled out troops in 2011, had to send them back because of the rise of isis. this is president biden responding to iraqi politics in a way that's consistent with his own politics. >> charlie, i need to talk to you about the pandemic, the unvaccinated putting this whole country at risk. how can the white house convince these people to get vaccinated with so many on the right still pushing dangerous misinformation? >> i think the most morning thing they can do right now is take the unvaccinated people who
have come out of the hospital with these near death experiences, who have had a deathbed conversion, led them speak to the unvaccinated about why it's important to get vaccinated to protect not just ourselves but our friends, our unvaccinated friends and family. i keep pounding the point home, all these people in the hospital, nearly 100% of them, are unvaccinated. this is insane. take these powerful voices of people who have come out of the hospital, near death, let them speak to the unvaccinated. if the unvaccinated don't listen to them, i don't know who they'll listen to. >> we just had one at the top of the 10:00 hour, a couple. thank you both. the director of global health at the council on foreign relations joins me now. he is the author of the book "plagues and the paradox of progress: why the world is
getting healthier in worrisome ways." thank you for joining us, tom. the va will now mandate vaccines for its health workers. new york city is ordering its city workers to be vaccinated or get regular testing. california says state workers must get their shot. is this what the rest of the country should be doing? >> i'm in favor of more vaccine man mandates, particularly in health care settings where people are patient-facing. the va policy is sensibly done, it does take into account due process, medical reasons. as you mentioned, number of other hospital and health care systems have done the same. i think it's favorable. i think we need to look at other settings like increasing what we see at universities, among federal and state employees. i do think it will be helpful
when the fda finally approves this vaccine for it to occur among more private employers as well. >> it is july 26 and the white house still hasn't reached its july 4 goal of getting 70% of americans with at least one shot. do you think we'll remain stuck and this turns into another major crisis or are we already there? >> we're already there. i'm going to be honest with you, don. i think we're looking at a hard few weeks or months ahead of us. the dominant strain now, this delta variant, is at least twice as infectious as the original strain. it's finding pockets of the undervaccinated. we are seeing substantial increases nationwide. of course we're at more than 50,000 per day. that's up 50% from last week. but the hotspots are really in these, again, pockets of undervaccinated populations.
florida now has the highest weekly death rates among all 50 states. it has under the average of vaccinated individuals. arkansas and louisiana now have the highest rate per 100,000 of infections. they are in the bottom ten of vaccinated states in this country. as long as these pockets of undervaccinated people exist, we're going to see these surges. and i'm afraid that's what we're looking at in the next few weeks. >> my family is in louisiana. every day on our family text chain i send them a story from louisiana because i want them to be safe. it's unbelievable. it seems like we're hearing about more contracting the virus, although the majority have few symptoms. does that mean vaccinated people need to bring back their old routines of skipping crowds, masking up inside? >> i think if you're in a setting if you're uncertain if
the population around you is unvaccinated, i think it can be sensible, particularly if you're immunocompromised or an older individual, it's sense to believe wear a mask in those settings. in terms of more formal mask mandates, i think they're important tools for preventing infection. we do need to be very careful on how they are applied. they can discourage the unvaccinated from getting vaccinated if they don't see the benefits. my worry is we're no longer producing the data that can help local public health officials make these decisions. florida, as we mentioned before, has one fifth of the covid cases nationally. and they've stopped reporting their testing data. they've stopped breaking down data by county for deaths and infection. and that's really preventing our ability to have target applications of these mask mandates that we had before to protect populations. we need to have that data for
that to occur. >> let me just restate some of what you said and reiterate it and ask you a question at the end. you talked about the cases being up across the map. but in florida and arkansas, every single county is now listed as having high levels of community transmission according to the cdc, david. now, some florida hospitals are reporting more covid patients now than at any other point during the pandemic. how risky is it right now to be in or travel to these states, particularly if you're unvaccinated or have unvaccinated people in your household? >> it's risky. we're really expecting, you know, the forecasts out to 12 weeks forward, states like florida or louisiana, arkansas -- >> 12 weeks? >> out to 12 weeks, yes. >> wow. >> and we need to take this seriously. you know, your guests before had some sensible ideas for
promoting vaccination among these populations. anyone watching this, really, if you haven't gotten vaccinated yet, it's really time to be more serious about moving forward with that decision. >> tom, thank you. >> my pleasure. as i mentioned, more cities are now reinstating mask mandates for everyone, whether you're vaccinated or not. savannah, georgia made that change just today. joining me is savannah's mayor, van johnson. mayor, thank you. this is an important conversation we're going to have. >> absolutely, thank you. >> you're requiring masks in all government facilities as well as savannah city schools and early childhood centers. was this a tough choice for you? >> it was a tough choice, but it was a necessary choice. don, our community transmission index is triple. on july 12 we were at 84. today we're at 289. our percentage of positive tests have gone up from 5.7 on july 2
to 12.2 on july 23. our seven-day rolling average has increased from 8.3 on june 8 to 80 now. our vaccination rates are still very low, 42%. we have 40 folks in our hospitals here where a couple of weeks ago we had no one. we obviously have to do something. >> we see how controversial mask mandates have become. police officers or people say, how do you enforce that? how do you plan to enforce this? to say you have a mandate and then don't do anything about it really means nothing. >> absolutely. in every way we can. it's unfortunate that the minority has to suffer because of the inactions of the majority. there are some people and certainly savannah is known for its tourism, we have been exploding lately from people coming visiting our beautiful city. but if we have a mask mandate,
we believe a lot of people will follow it because we have a mask mandate. other people will do it because they recognize it's necessary. and then for those who choose not to comply, then obviously we have to have penalties associated with that. >> this mandate, it does not apply to private businesses or institutions, but, i mean, you're strongly encouraging owners to require everyone to mask up. have you got any pushback from local businesses or citizens? >> well, you get some. the fact is this is not a political issue, it should not be a political issue. this is an issue of public health and public safety. today i had some of savannah's finest medical and epidemiologists with me talking about the necessity of this moment, that we are quickly spiking up. and if we don't want to go back to where we were, the times when our businesses were closed, we were socially distant and we couldn't be around each other, then it's necessary for us to do
the necessary thing, although uncomfortable or inconvenient, to simply wear a mask or get vaccinated. we have prayed for this wave to get past us and we have been blessed with a way to get past it, named pfizer, moderna, and johnson & johnson, and folks need to take advantage of that opportunity. >> and your name is van johnson, no relation. just to restate some of the numbers again, because you gave us a lot of stats, but cases are spiking in your state likely because the vaccination rate is just under 40%, you mentioned that earlier. do you feel anything more can be done to talk unvaccinated georgians into getting their shots? >> it has to come from the top, we have to make it a priority. southern states have not done as well. >> what's going on with y'all?
>> we have to prioritize the right thing. we have to prioritize the health and safety of our folks. as far as i'm concerned, if i have to knock on every savannian's door and personally ask them to get the vaccine, we have to do it. we cannot, we will not allow covid to win in savannah, georgia. >> the thing is, too, obviously we want everyone to be healthy and safe, but you said your economy was just starting to recover. people are coming, they're visiting. now you have to revert back to the mask-wearing, and we'll see what happens with your businesses. you want to get things back up, get the shot. >> simple as that. >> mayor, thank you very much, keep us updated. we wish you luck. >> thank you, appreciate you. we got the story tonight on what happened when fox host tucker carlson was confronted in a montana fishing shop by a man who said this. >> you are one of the worst
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but we'll see where this goes. i have mixed emotions about this one. fox propaganda host tucker carlson confronted in a montana fishing shop, called the worst human being known to man. the man posted the confrontation to his instagram post. he accused carlson of vaccine misinformation and supporting racism. >> it's not every day you get to tell someone they are the worst human being. >> you are the worst human being known to man. i want you to know that. >> my daughter's here. >> i don't care, man. dude, you are the worst human being known to man. >> i appreciate that. i appreciate that. >> what you have done to everybody else -- >> okay. >> okay, so fox news reacting in a statement saying, ambushing tucker carlson while in a store with his family is totally
inexcusable, no public figure should be accosted regardless of their political persuasion or beliefs simply due to the intolerance of another point of view. the store where it happened is called dan bailey's outdoor company, it issued a public statement saying even though they have the same name, they share no affiliation with the dan bailey in the video, it's a coincidence that it's the same name. ana navarro and scott jennings are both here. thank you both so much. let me tell you this, yei don't like it when people do that because you wouldn't want people to do it to me. but tucker has done these things to other people. tucker said some nasty things about me and the next day there were paparazzi outside my house, hiding, taking pictures. i don't want it to happen to anyone, i don't want it to
happen to tucker, but when you do things like that, i don't know, that's the real deal, that's how i feel about it. ana, we're all on tv. we've been approached. we hear good things, we hear bad things from people. we don't even know who they are, it's part of the gig. don't you think this went a little too far, though? >> umm, you know, i actually thought the guy who confronted him was quite polite, was not shouting, was not violent, was not aggressive in any way. he expressed his opinion in the same way that tucker carlson expresses his opinion. it happened to me, there was a lady stalking me, she wanted to insult me for loathing trump.
>> but i don't think that should happen to you, ana, i don't think it should happen to chris or me or scott. >> don, i also don't think there should be hurricanes or there should be covid. but crap happens, okay? we get remunerated for giving our opinion and that comes with good and that comes with bad. so put on your big boy pants or your big girl pants and get on with life. when it comes to tucker carlson, it's not just about infrastructure or immigration or you name it. it's about covid and it's about life and death. i think people are very raw and emotional and angry about that in particular. so i think that with the platform we all have, scott, you, all of us, tucker, i, have, comes the benefit of some people liking what we say and some
people not liking what we say. in the same way i have a first amendment right, they have a first amendment right. deal with it. >> but first amendment right doesn't mean invading my personal space, i'm sorry, ana. i understand what you're saying and i get it. i think what tucker says much of the time is completely reprehensible and divorced from reality. but he has a right to be in a space and not be accosted and not be ambushed by anyone. people yell all the time at me. i was in cincinnati, there were trump supporters out there yelling across, whatever. they weren't in my face. if you want to stand across the street, fine. >> there was one person who made contact there. it was tucker carlson with a guy. the guy never touched tucker carlson. the guy never accosted tucker carlson. he gave tucker carlson his opinion about what he said and it is what we have to deal with for giving our opinion every night. >> i hear you.
and tucker carlson says if you see a kid wearing a mask, you should call the cops. i get it. >> if you're going to dish it, you better be able to take it. >> scott, fox news called it an ambush. what do you think? >> well, i agree, it was an ambush. i thought tucker handled it fine. he's been approached before. and he usually finds a way to defuse it and laugh it off. i thought the guy actually looked pretty aggressive, he got right in his face, was chest to chest with him, looked like he was trying to move with tucker as tucker was trying to get away. i had a similar reaction to you, don, i don't want this to happen to tucker carlson because i don't want it to happen to you. you by the president of the united states have been personally singled out, people at cnn have been personally sing singled out. there's a whole group of folks who would love to get in the face of people here and others
out there who would love to get in the face of people on fox news or msnbc. to rationalize it or laugh it off or say put on your big boy pants, to me is condone it. if you want to condone a confrontation like this, you're inviting the next one and the next person may not have the same physical restraint. don, you've met people i'm sure out there who look like they would love to commit violence. when you encourage these kinds of confrontations or condone it, i think the next one may not be so friendly and people may lay hands on each other and that makes me extremely uncomfortable. i don't mind this guy's views, he's welcome to have them, but in a space like that, tucker's daughter was there, in a small store, it made me uncomfortable. >> my response is always, thank you for watching, i'm so glad, thank you so much, even if they say the worst things about me because really i want it defuse it and want them to go away. again, i know people have the right. i'm on tv.
i give my point of view and i say my take all the time. and so i understand it's going to happen. but do i like it? no. ana, go on, respond. what do you want to say? >> there's a lot of things in life i don't like, don. but they happen and they come with the territory. i'm not condoning it. i'm not encouraging it. i'm saying that in the same way that tucker carlson spews out hatred every night and racism every night and anti-covid rhetoric every night which puts lives at risk, this guy in this fish store, whatever the hell it was, has a right to his opinion. and so i can't say that one's right is greater than the other. and again, i have actually seen video of this exact same thing happen to chris cuomo while one of his daughters was in tow. and is it uncomfortable?
is it awkward? is it unpleasant? is it horrible? all of those things, yes. but when we take on the job of going on tv and spewing our opinions, we should know that that comes with the consequence of other people approaching us and spewing their opinions. and as long as there is no violence, and this man was not violent, as long as there is no violence, i think they had exactly their right to their opinion. the only thing is i think this guy was wrong. >> ana. >> no, wait. tucker carlson, he said, is the worst person known to man. i think tucker carlson is worst person known to man and women. so i think he was a little less than what i would have said. >> okay. listen, i'm not saying what the guy said was right or wrong. there's a difference between stating your opinion and
standing and intimidating someone and blocking them. people stop me all the time and give me their opinions and sometimes i don't like it. but you know when someone is being aggressive. you know when they are in your personal space. of course that comes with the territory. i was in the whole foods the other way, this guy talked to me, he said, look, i watch you all the time, legal tt me tell what i don't agree with you about. we stood there and had a conversation. that is not what happened in that video. you know the difference between someone being aggressive and blocking you from walking or moving or not letting you get your point across. there is a difference in someone respectfully saying i don't agree with you and let me tell you why, do you have a second. if i say no, i don't have a second, move on. if i say sure, if you engage them, and you want to, that's a different thing. i don't think we should be encouraging this. >> what is encouraging it, don?
where was tucker carlson when donald trump was saying you are the enemy of the people? who is encouraging this? they encourage trump saying the media and the press was the enemy of the people and shouting horrible things about cnn and other outlets. >> and we call them out for them. >> forgive me if i don't shed tears over tucker carlson. >> you don't want to become them. >> no, i don't. but i also don't want to forgive or forget the stuff they've done for four years. i also want to acknowledge why people are angry. listen, they've been spewing out crap about covid and anti-fauci stuff and anti-vaccine stuff and people are dying. and people have every right to be furious. >> that doesn't mean you have to get in people's face in public. >> okay. then --
>> don't watch tucker carlson. our signal has broken up. i got to run, guys. >> it's a rare night, don, when you get to speak for me, this is amazing. >> okay, listen, i need to say this, we tried to reach dan bailey to come on and comment but we didn't hear back from him. again, that doesn't mean i agree or disagree with anything that he said. but no one should have that treatment in public, even tucker carlson. we'll be right back.
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only weeks after he appeared to endorse a myanmar-style coup in the u.s., trump's former security adviser joked about firing a gun at someone in washington, d.c. cnn's alex marquardt has more on the story. >> reporter: it was in a church that the latest disturbing turn in the michael flynn story came. >> we were trying to come up with a rifle that we thought was appropriate for a general. so we went with an old school woodland camouflage. >> reporter: in yuba city, california, after flynn was gifted a semi-automatic rifle, he said this. >> maybe i'll find somebody in
washington, d.c., ha ha ha. >> reporter: laughs on stage and in the crowd in this clip of the event that surfaced after the retired general jokes about using the gun against someone in the nation's capital. that same capital earlier this year saw the violent insurrection by supporters of donald trump who flynn spoke to the night before the riots, spouting lies about a stolen election. >> and the entire world knows, everybody in this country knows who won the election on the 3rd. who won the election on the 3rd? donald trump. >> reporter: flynn riling up the crowd less than 24 hours before the historic assault on the capitol building. >> tomorrow we the people are going to be here and we want you to know that we will not stand for a lie. >> reporter: flynn was trump's first national security adviser and pleaded guilty for lying to the fbi before being pardoned by trump. weeks before january 6, he called for martial law, to use the military to overturn
legitimate election results. >> he could order this -- um, within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities and place them in those states and basically rerun an election in each of those states. >> reporter: he has embraced the farthest fringe of the maga movement including the qanon conspiracy theory. appearing on qanon podcasts, selling qanon merchandise, and taping himself with a group reciting the movement's catch phrase. >> where we go one, we go all. >> reporter: a few months ago he attended a qanon conference and said there was no reason a military coup couldn't happen in the u.s. like the violent and deadly one unfolding in myanmar. >> i want to know why what happened in myanmar can't happen here. >> no reason. i mean, it should happen. no reason. >> reporter: a furious backlash followed and flynn claimed he wasn't calling for a coup. >> michael flynn! >> reporter: but it was clear he believed the big lie. >> trump won.
[ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: we tried to reach flynn about these latest troubling comments but were unable to. after what he had said about the myanmar-style coup happening here in the united states, the pentagon said they would not be investigating him. but they are reviewing whether he had approval for money that he's received after retiring from turkish and russian entities with ties to those governments. if not, financial penalties could be imposed. remember, this is a guy who, as a retired three-star general, is still getting taxpayer-funded retirement benefits, don. >> alex, thank you so much, i appreciate that. the chair of donald trump's inaugural committee heckled, called a traitor before pleading not guilty in federal court today. more next. so, are you gonna buy the car? please! if i could just go home, and discuss things with my wife- i've been here all weekend. you can leave anytime you want.
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longtime ally of former president trump and chairman of the trump 2016 inaugural committee tom barrack pleading not guilty to charges unveiled by the district attorney last week. barrack putting up a massive $250 million bail package. cnn's jennifer rogers, good evening to you. tom barrack entered a plea of not guilty. how strong is the case against him?
>> it looks pretty strong, don, reviewing the indictment. it's not just the fair violations, of course, when authorities uncovered this case, they spoke to tom barrack and he lied to them. so we have false statements and obstruction of justice too. so it looks quite solid. >> he is out on a $250 million bond deal. that's a lot of money, no chump change here. prosecutors are calling him a flight risk. he can only fly commercial to approved locations. were you surprised by that $250 million price tag? >> i have never heard of a bail package that high. so i was. on the other hand you have to have a very high package, something that will keep him in place and make him not want to flee the country. so apparently that's what they agreed upon. and, you know, he put it up, so we'll see. presumably he'll come back to court with this kind of package in the system. >> wow. so sources are telling cnn there is no indication that he will cooperate but if he wanted to cut spot. a deal, what do you think that would look like? >> that's a good question.
so the district that's charged him, the brooklyn u.s. attorney's office, has the inaugural committee investigations. so certainly he could cooperate in that investigation. he could cooperate in his own case against one or both of the other co-defendants. the question is what else does he know. there's no indication that he could cooperate, for example, in other potential criminal matters involving president trump. you know, and if i comes in, it could get interesting. >> jennifer rogers, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. so big day tomorrow. the house committee investigating the insurrection, calling their first witnesses. the officers, who protected the capitol. are going to tell you what to watch for. that's next. [sfx: radio being tuned] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪ and even when things go a bit wrong, we've got your back. here, things work the way
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req good evening. tomorrow, a house select committee begins investigating the worst attack on american democracy by americans since the civil war and this is not just a look back to the 6th of january. experts in how democracies die, have told us on this program, they consider what we saw that day, nearly one man fesstation of an ongoing threat. amplifies to root out the facts of what happened on january 6th and why. what led up to it? what the implications might be for the future of a democracy, that's still under considerable strain. congressman adam schiff, who every serves on the committee, and joins us shortly, says tomorrow's opening session will be fairly limited. one round of questioning and never-before-seen video showing what it was like to be a police officer facing the mob. it was no love fest issue as the former president continues to say. not something akin to tourism, as one georgia