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yet to be identified. hello again, everyone. thank you for joining me. i'm fredericka whitfield. covid-19 cases are spiking across the country and now the nation's top health officials are looking at potential reverting back to mask-wearing guidance, even among the fully vaccinated. dr. fauci telling cnn this morning that he is part of the active discussion to revise the guidance and it's in large part to the number of people who are still choosing not to get vaccinated. >> we're going in the wrong direction. we have 50% of the country is not fully vaccinated, that's a problem. particularly when you have a variant like delta, which has this extraordinary characteristic of being able to spread very efficiently and very easily from person to person.
>> former u.s. surgeon general dr. jerome adams said once covids have received full approval from the fda, it could be easier to mandate vaccines, especially in the military and some businesses. all of this as the pandemic is quickly spiraling out of control once more. cases are continuing to rise in nearly every state. and while vaccinations are dragging with still less than 50% of the u.s. population fully vaccinated. now some cities are ordering new mask mandates to try to slow the spread. cnn's suzanne malveaux is in st. louis where a mask mandate goes into effect, in fact, tomorrow. but not everybody is embracing it? >> reporter: well, you can imagine it was just a little more than two months ago people were breathing a sigh of relief here in st. louis that they did not have to wear their masks. now all of that is changing tomorrow. this mask mandate will, in fact, go into effect tomorrow.
and it covers st. louis as well, st. louis county. and what this requires is that folks will have to wear a mask indoors and public spaces as well as public transportation. everyone who is 5 years old and older. the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated will have to wear their mask. the only exception to this is for those who are eating or drinking at a restaurant or a bar or those who are disabled, not able to put on or take off a mask. and then there will be a very strong recommendation that people wear masks outdoors as well. so, you can imagine kind of the confusion, the frustration, if you will, even among -- especially among the vaccinated, who we have spoken to, saying they did not need -- they didn't think they had to come back to this place again, but the mayor making it very clear, the county executive making it very clear, that this is a health and public safety issue. fred, it did not take long to get quite a bit of pushback
here. attorney general of missouri, we're talking about eric schmidt, hoping for the gop nomination for the u.s. senate seat. he was very quick to respond saying he's going to file a lawsuit on monday to go along with the mask mandate to try to block this. he tweeted this saying the citizens of st. louis and st. louis county are not subject, they are free people as the attorney general will be filing suit monday to stop this insanity. he is framing this as an issue of freedom and not of public health. they are responding very strongly, tweeting, saying our top priority is protecting the health, safety and well-being of the people of st. louis city and county. nobody is surprised the attorney general plans to file yet another frivolous lawsuit to serve his own political ambitions. in the meantime, who is caught in the middle of all this? the small businesses, the business owners, the employers, folks actually serving at restaurants and bars. just listen to the concerns that they have, fred.
>> whenever we had the mask mandate, we had to fight a lot of people who didn't want to wear masks. >> we had a customer pull a gun, we had customers threaten to fight and just go crazy. >> reporter: so people are a little nervous, anxious about what's going to happen tomorrow. they'll have to sort it out themselves. we'll see how this all goes. in the meantime, this is a very serious situation, dire situation in missouri as well as in st. louis. when you look at those covid cases, they are surging as we speak, fred. >> suzanne malveaux in st. louis, thank you. let's bring in dr. jonathan riner, cnn medical analyst. always good to see you. so, dr. fauci addressed mask mandates earlier today on cnn. this is what he said. >> do you think masks should be brought back for vaccinated
americans? >> you know, jake, this is under active consideration. if you're asking am i part of the discussion, yes, i am. part of the discussion, the cdc still says and recommends that if you are vaccinated fully that you do not need to wear a mask indoors. however, if you look at what's going on locally in the trenches, in places like l.a. county, the local officials have the discretion and the cdc agrees with that ability and discretion capability to say, you know, you're in a situation where we're having a lot of dynamics of infection, so even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a mask. >> doctor, what do you want people to do, regardless if there's a mandate or not, just given the rise of cases, the delta variant, what we're all seeing and experiencing? >> hi, fredericka. i want everyone to stay safe. if you're vaccinated, you are
largely very safe, but if you're unvaccinated, you are at grave risk. and is the only way to get the unvaccinated to mask up is to mask everyone up. we don't have vaccine passports, we don't wear lapel pins saying vaccinated. there's no way to know who's vaccinated or unvaccinated. for that reason to protect the unvaccinated, we are all going to need to mask up. that's just the brutal truth. there's very little risk in most places in this country for the vaccinated. it's true, you can still -- a small number of people who are completely vaccinated will have breakthrough infections, which are largely mild. but the reason to mask up now is to protect the unvaccinated. >> you heard suzanne reporting out of st. louis, the attorney general, you know, who said stop the insanity, but how do you see it? what's the insanity, the wearing of the mask or the spread -- the continuing spread of covid? >> right.
so s covid is spreading very rapidly through missouri. missouri is one of the top four states in the united states in terms of the rate of infection now. something has to be done. either you close businesses down, and certainly there's no political will to do that, or you get more people vaccinated. we're having a very difficult time in places like missouri and arkansas and alabama, mississippi, to do that. or have you to get people to mask up. the virus doesn't care what you think about it. the virus will infect you. this virus is very, very avid for people who are not vaccinated and have not been infected in the past. so this virus is likely to infect you. if you go out in public, if you go to a bar -- in fact, i would say mrbluntly is if you are not vaccinated in the united states, you should not go into a bar. you should probably not eat in a restaurant. you are at great risk of
becoming infected. >> we're back to that. really the early stages of when, you know, a pandemic was declared in the united states and globally. dr. jerome adams said it would be easier to mandate vaccines once they are fully approved by the fda. do you see a correlation there, that the hesitancy is also predicated on whether it's fda approved or not? >> you know, i think there are some people who are hes titant w to vaccinate and will get a shot once a vaccine is fully approved. really the benefit will be for industry, for airlines, for state agencies, for the federal government to then mandate vaccines. legally they can do it now. it will be less of a headache once the vaccine is fully approved. i think the federal government should mandate vaccines for all federal workers. i'd like to see the president
now issue a mandate for the armed forces. i'd like to see a mandate for everyone who works in the white house. let's set an example for business around the united states and show that the federal government has faith in the safety and ef ficacy of these vaccines that the federal government is going to mandate it for all workers that get a federal paycheck. that would set a great standard. it will be easier once fully approved but legally the federal government can do it right now. >> still on the issue of vaccines, president trump, former president, said this in arizona at this appearance on vaccines. >> i recommend you take it, but i also believe in your freedoms 100%. but just so you understand -- but it was a great achievement. what they've done is because they don't trust the president, people aren't doing it. and that's as simple as it can be. >> a couple different messages there. at least we're now hearing from the former.
the to encourage people to get vaccinated. i mean, he did, after all. >> right. he did it in secret. that's just a half-baked endorsement. he says on the one hand, get vaccinated and on the other hand, he believes in freedom. this reminds me of when he said, you can wear a mask but i'm not going to wear it. we need full -- we don't need conditional approval. we need a full-throated recommendation. we need him to urge his followers to get vaccinated now. that's weak. that's weak stuff. >> doctor, good to see you. thanks much. >> my pleasure. coming up, former president donald trump also spouting more lies about the election. so, where do republicans go from here? plus, congresswoman liz cheney is facing new attacks from members of her own party. why she is being compared now to hillary clinton.
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trump is still not letting go of his big lie, spouting more wild claims about the election and the vote in georgia. and he said all of this during a rally in arizona last night. >> the big lie they call it. you know what's the big lie? the opposite is the big lie. the election was the big lie. and eye got to tell you, a got to say this. i've never said it before but i've always thought it. if i lost the election, i'm okay with that. i'm okay with it. seriously. if we lost the election, we lose an election. i'll go home, i'll start building buildings, do something, keep myself busy. but you know what, if we lost the election, we know when we lose. you know, in georgia they had an election. we did so well and everyone knew we won by hundreds of thousands
and they stole it from us. what happened is we had two senators running a couple months later. you know what happened to them in the republicans said, we're not going out to vote pause this was rigged. this election was rigged. and they know it. you know when you win and when you lose. if i lost this election, i could handle it pretty easily. when they steal
it from you and rig it, that's not easy and we have to fight. >> no, what we know is you lost the election. and you're still not okay with it. so, let's talk. joining me right now, former republican congresswoman from georgia, barbara comstock and amanda carpenter. good to see both of you, ladies. congresswoman, please explain the logic, if you want to, what the president -- former president is talking about. he keeps saying republicans in georgia didn't vote because they thought the election was rigged, but he's the one who had been
talking about this rigged election even before the election actually happened. how do you make sense, how do his supporters make sense of what it is he's saying? >> well, there's no sense in what he is saying. i would dare anyone in house leadership, house republican leadership to stand up and say those very same things or any republican lawyer to go into court and say those same things and not get laughed out of court. i think be when you look at the past week, i think one of the most startling things we saw this week was super bowl champ tom brady making fun of donald trump's election denialism when he was at the white house for the super bowl celebration. more people, i would imagine, saw the here roadway tom brady than saw the ridiculous rantings of donald trump. that's why he's becoming diminished, taken less seriously. as these books come out and as we have the hearings start this week, this is a diminished,
though still dangerous man. and, obviously, he still draws some people who are going to continue to believe in this delusion. but it is going away. and i think it will in the month to come. >> diminished but still dangerous because there are people who are still believing a lot of the ridiculousness that continues to come out of his mouth. amanda, moving forward tuesday, hearings. we just learned today that ahead of that, house speaker pelosi has named another republican to join liz cheney to the panel. congressman adam kinzinger. do you think this helps bring credibility to the objective of this commission and their search for who, what, when, where and how? >> absolutely. i completely applaud nancy pelosi for appointing strong republicans to this committee and for liz cheney and adam kinzinger to answer that call. this certainly will not be he's is i for them.
listen, i agree with barbara that donald trump does have a diminished influence broadly but he is hugely influential within the republican party. i was sort of flabbergasted to see the retiring pennsylvania senator pat toomey tell jake tapper this morning that he didn't think donald trump would be relevant in the 2022 election. he didn't see a reason to go on with this investigation. that clip that you just played at the top shows why we must have that investigation because donald trump is absolutely making that a central issue for republicans going forward. he wasn't there just to speak for himself in arizona. i listened to that entire five-hour lineup. that forum was not only to keep the big lie going but to enforce it among republican officials and candidates. you had speaker after speaker embracing that big lie. this question is not going away. in order to have a truthful, honest accounting for what happened, we absolutely need republicans who seat truth of
that election, to serve in that commission. i really hope she find more staff and counsel who are on the republican side to assist in that effort. >> congresswoman liz cheney and adam kinzinger has said it before he was officially asked and then accepted the position saying they want to get at the truth but here's a consequence, particularly for congresswoman cheney. she is getting the brunt not only as the gop removed her from important positions, she runs the risk of losing, i guess, even more cloud among the gop. in fact, there's kind of a campaign now that is trying to compare her to what the gop sees as a nemesis. hillary clinton. take a look and listen. >> she been fitted from a famous political last name. she sided with nancy pelosi and attacked president trump when he was in office. she supported impeachment and she continues to attack
president trump today. hillary clinton, no liz cheney. >> how creative. congresswoman, does congresswoman cheney really care at this point? she took a great stand at a great risk and seems to be feeling very broad of what she's doing. what do you see the long-term political consequences potentially for her? >> i think long term people look at somebody who stands up for themselves and conservative principles, as liz always has. she's standing with the constitution, the rule of law. she's strong on defense. she happens to be pro-life, pro second amendment. she's fighting for wyoming's local issues and knows them in and out, unlike many of the people who are challenging her. i think this is nonsense. when you see some of the people, i wasn't as good as amanda. i could not watch those ridiculous people bowing and scraping to donald trump. i predict none of those people will win.
if you put somebody who is there saying the kind of nonsense they were saying last night at that rally, they are not going to ever be a u.s. senator. certainly won't be a republican u.s. senator. they might not get dominated and then they'll lose a seat. which is unfortunate, i would like to have a republican senate. these kind of people who are bowing and scraping for donald trump, they do not look like real ammen and women. that's why somebody like tom brady making fun of him this week singularly kind of changed the dynamic here. here's somebody who knows how to be his own person and stand up for himself. and the people that you're seeing there -- that's what this week -- we're also going to see this week with the hearings and going forward in the hearings, you're going to hear in real time republicans who worked closely with donald trump saying things similarly about him, about how ridiculous he was being, how they knew it was a lie. people like his white house counsel who told him his
elections theories were nonsense, bill barr, his attorney general and many other close staff that need to be subpoenaed. heck, ivanka trump was saying this was nonsense, according to recent reports. so, let's get her texts, let's get her phone records and let's get her deposition. put these people under oath. you're going to see a lot of these people saying the same kind of things that amanda and i are saying when they have to be put under oath. >> i guess it's going to be very interesting to see who's going to cooperate, who will be willing to do that, to testify or to get -- >> if they're subpoenaed and put rnd oath. if they're subpoenaed and put under oath, they have to do it. if they take the fifth amendment that implies they have a criminal liability and this is a political issue so they should have to testify. >> first on deck on day one of testimony tuesday, we'll hear from four of those very brave officers who responded that day and what they
amanda, including the officer you see right here, daniel hodges, who was crushed in that doorway by rioters. some republicans want to say this was a sham of investigation, like another day of tourists on capitol hill. i mean, but now a re-examination of these images, of testimony and i wonder, amanda it, is it really going to change the minds of those who have been so dug in to turn away from that imagery and stories to continue to say it didn't happen that way? >> there's a chance. but more importantly, we have to establish for the record what really happened that day. the excuse coming from a lot of trump supporters is that we don't need a congressional investigation because these are -- there are criminal proceedings happening. now, within those courtrooms and people prosecuted for those actions, you will never hear the stories from the capitol hill police officers.
you will never get the inside story from someone like jerome milley who said he was worried trump was trying to engineer a coup. those are the stories we'll get from there. it may be the first time that someone, say, like a dedicated fox news listener, ever hears that. when that report is produced, it will be read widely in a way these criminal proceedings and statements from the judges will not. yes, absolutely be hopeful it will change minds. we do it because it's the right thing to do and we have to establish the facts for the record that will stand the test of time. >> yeah, this might, indeed, be a pivotal week. former congresswoman barbara co am. stock and amanda. thank you. the story of a front-line nurse in arkansas who has helped covid patients and now facing what she describes as a torrent of insults and lies for just doing her job. >> then you have the public saying, you signed up for this.
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taking care of the sick and dying but also abuse from those who continue to doubt the virus and its vaccine. cnn's elly reeves traveled to arkansas and has this story. >> it was extremely difficult to watch so many people die and then have people tell you, you know, on facebook or walmart that you're a liar. >> reporter: sonny worked on a covid floor at the hospital at the height of the pandemic. being a nurse was heart, but made it surreal was living in western arkansas have many people, even some in her own family said covid was overblown, just the flu. >> the nurses were really the symbol for this whole pandemic and almost all of the hate has centralized around us. i just have ptsd. a lot of us are suffering from it from last year and now we're having people come in and look us in the face and say, no, i diplomat get the vaccine and now i'm sick.
>> reporter: arkansas has the third lowest covid-19 vaccination rate in the country. just 36% of the population is fully vaccinated. like many places with low vaccination rates, it's now seeing a spike in case cass. >> are you going to get the vaccine? >> i have not yet and i will not. i'm not a gun inea pig. >> you got covid? >> i did. but then after i got over the covid, i had a heart attack. >> then why would you not get the vaccine? >> that's good. that's better. >> i believe that it's a freedom issue and i've worn a mask a maximum of one hour in the entire whole thing since this covid came. if it's so communicable, why am i still standing? >> we had people accuse us of giving their loved ones something else so they would die so we could report it as covid. we heard it more than once we were fudging the numbers or
killing people on purpose to make covid look worse than it was or make it look real when it wasn't. for the first majority of the pandemic we wore the same n-95 for weeks at a time. >> tell me what you think about the term health care heroes? >> i think it sucks. >> reporter: why? >> they dubbed us health care heroes. it gave the public this really wrong impression that we were sacrificial lambs and willing to die for them. we want to help people. up, i want to save lives. i want people to get better. but not at the expense of my families' lives either. then you have the public going, you signed up for this. no, i didn't. when i was 17, i enlisted in the army, i knew i might die for my country. when i was 22 and went to nursing school, that wasn't on the agenda. i didn't volunteer to die for everybody. even with the vaccine now, it's still a highly politicized thing for no good reason. >> reporter: last year sunny started venting on tiktok. >> you're just trying to spread
fear. >> if that's what it takes to get you to listen to me, sure. >> i had avoided posting about covid for a long time because of the negative reactions i got. like, it hurts my feelings. just a couple weeks ago i had people in my in box threatening to kill me, calling me a murderer, saying i helped call those people. i get called a crisis actor all the time. is my thing to respond to hate email for $10. i made about $100. >> reporter: really? >> yeah. >> and people spend you $10 and you're like, i'm not a crisis actor? >> i'm not a crisis actor and covid is true. surprise. i'll tell you all the truth you wanted to hear. >> reporter: sunny says dark jokes bring some relief from a dark reality, that her own health is the a risk. her fellow nurse got covid in august and was on a ventilator for 42 days. >> it's real. covid's real. i nearly died from it.
and will probably have issues from it for the rest of my life. i have family that they believe that it's real, but they're not concerned with taking the vaccine. they understand some people get it and it's not bad. but i got it and it was bad. now we're seeing this new variant hit and it's really hitting arkansas. >> sorry. my sister doesn't have the vaccine. >> reporter: sunny says recently covid patients have been telling her they got it at church. this week arkansas had its biggest spike in cases since february and has the worst case rate in the country. the state is offering vaccination incentives like free lottery kikts. it hasn't helped anyone. >> reporter: do you know anyone
who's gotten co-sflid. >> yes. my son. he was 8. he was sick a lot. he's still sick. i'll have to get him looked at and see if there's further damage. i don't know. he got real sick. fever every day, weeks. >> reporter: are you guys going to get the vaccine? >> no, no vaccine. >> reporter: how come? >> i just don't trust. >> reporter: are you going to get the vaccine? >> absolutely not. our kids are not going to get it. none of us. >> reporter: how come? >> i figure i'll let the world work its natural ways. >> reporter: are you able to get religious exemptions at schools? >> no. we'll take it if we have to. >> reporter: what do you mean when you say you don't usually get vaccines. >> we didn't do the pig swine flu, any of that, we didn't do any of the befores. it's something i don't believe in. i haven't ever. it only comes about every presidency and it seems like it's either crowd control or whatever you want to call it, but i want my family to have nothing to do with it. we've always been healthy.
seems to work better that way. >> reporter: not everyone around here feels this way. >> i think you need to get it because it's not only helping you, it can help your whole family. everybody around you. it's better to take a chance on the shot than it is on the covid. cowboy up and go in there and get a shot and come out of there like a grownup, you know. >> come here. come here. >> reporter: one of my biggest fear with covid is we're seeing a lot of nurses with compassion fatigue. a lot of the cases we're seeing are nonvaccinated individuals. if i had a patient come in not vaccinated with covid, i'm obviously still going to treat them to the best of my ability but i do know some nurses who had to quit because they don't have it in this them to do that. a lot of arkansans would give you the shirt of their back to help you out for a stranger. i think that a lot of people being anti-covid and anti-vaccine is just a product of the way we were raised here, but they're not bad people.
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to come home with a gold medal even though that's the american basketball team has done. for the last three years they have brought home olympic gold. based on the game last night against france, american fans might want to recalibrate their expectations. they did struggle and not so good towards the end. they have a number of issues. the coronavirus situation, which has impacted everybody. a number of players just didn't want to have to deal with all of that and so they made themselves unavailable. then there were two late admissions because of an injury and the coronavirus protocol. then three players that arrived really, really late because of the nba finals. and they have literally just got there. the warm-up games, the american lost. i mean, this is not no surprise, but as you say, they're not out of it. they have to finish the group. they have games coming up against iran and the czech republic, so they can hopefully progress to the latter stages. you might want to recalibrate your expectations. >> over a little bit of time you'll be more climateized because you're -- we're talking
about, you're upside down in the time zone. >> those players that just arrived, maybe by the next game on wednesday, they'll be better. we do have better news in the pool. chase kalisz delivering the first gold for america in the 400 individual medley. he's a protege of michael phelps. remember him? it's kind of weird seeing phelps on dry land but he has helped him win a gold medal. they're both from maryland. he won silver in rio five years ago. a step up for him. a very rare american gold medical in fencing, only the third american gold in this sport. she did well to win it, beating the defending champion in the final. >> we'll wrap it up. gym gymnastics, people are rooting for and it's all about simone biles and the team didn't come out of the team so strong in
qualifying, but they're going to get there. don't worry. >> they have qualified, but in second place, which is very, very unusual for this american gymnastics team. usually they're ruling the roost, looking down on everybody else. they made a lot of mistakes. even the great simone biles. the grace of all time. >> i like your word, recalibrate. they're going to recalibrate, too. that's okay. expectations can remain high for team usa in gymnastics. great to see you. appreciate it. coming up from mary tyler moore to murphy brown and who's the boss, we're looking back at some iconic workplace sitcoms. ♪ when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪
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all right. in the sitcom world, the workplace is an endless source of comedy from murphy brown to "the office," "veep," "30 rock." the next brand-new episode of "history of the sitcom" looks at iconic characters who were working for laughs. here's a preview. >> i want to get out of here. >> boy, do i hate to start a day like this. >> hal lyndon is the bob newhart of that office surrounded by all the craziness. >> lenny is my other personality. >> you have the same address? >> the workplace comedy is great because all the characters come in and they're not related. so they don't have something in common. >> turned out to be a diverse cast which was, i guess,
different in those days. >> jack sue, gregory sierra, ron glass. that was pretty unusual and revolutionary. >> all right. boy, that really is taking us all back. let's bring in lorraine ali, the television critic for the "los angeles times." i thought about it in sitcoms and categories but then when you put it together like that, it makes perfect sense. what is it about -- i mean, whether it's "wkrp," "taxi," "murphy brown." what is it about the workplace that could conjure up so much good comedic material? >> i mean, it's kind of like what isn't there about the workplace. it's just got everything in it. it's got the dysfunction the family has but it's got all these people thrown together with their oddball, you know, kind of personalities. and they have to deal with that. they don't have their collective history of a family. and also, you know, the workplace really kind of reflects shifts in american
culture. when you look at -- especially in this documentary, when you look at like how american culture changes, the workplace really reflects that. so do these sitcoms. that's what's so fascinating about it. >> there were real lessons learned, too. you pick your friends but in your workplace, you're not necessarily picking colleagues, you know, in the basis of that, how to get along. and that, i guess, does create so much fodder for funny things. but they also become lessons, right? i guess these sitcoms that are workplace based also teach a lot of lessons. and what does it say about us? and how we see ourselves. >> it's interesting. i mean, it's really particularly american. if you look at "taxi," all of them are completely different from one another. there's women in that workplace. you know, and when you look at barney miller, people of color. "veep," a female vice president who becomes president. she's terrible, and that show
would later have to compete with reality but we won't get into that. but it's really interesting in that it kind of says we're constantly like this experiment of how we can push ourselves to accept and get along with each other and clash with each other. >> yeah. >> if you look at even mary tyler moore, with her and ed aser in, they were totally opposite and such a great couple. like a classic work couple. >> right. and mary tyler moore, murphy brown. it also helped showcase some very strong women and a presence, especially in various times when america just didn't want to see that and these shows made you see those characteristics in these women. >> if you look at what we're coming off of, june cleaver, the housewife, all of those things. mrry tyler moore comes along. a single woman, working in a newsroom. she just broke down barriers. and then after that, you -- just
like you said, you start to see, whatever it is. "designing women," "murphy brown." and out of that "30 rock" and it's really showing you the reality of what's out there. economically and women's liberation. all of those things. so, yeah, we can thank mary tyler moore for a lot. >> big time. really laying the ground work. lorraine ali, thank you so much. it will be fun walking down memory lane as we watch "the history of sitcom" tonight at 9:00 here on cnn. thank you for joining me this weekend. i'm fredricka whitfield. the "cnn newsroom" continues after the break with ryan nobles. here we go. ♪ ♪ so i'd like to know where you got the notion ♪ ♪ to rock the boat don't rock the boat, baby ♪ ♪ rock the boat don't tip the boat over ♪ ♪ rock the boat don't rock the boat, baby ♪ ♪ rock the boat ♪
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you are live in the cnn newsroom. i'm ryan nobles in washington filling in for jim acosta. summer 2021 is looking a lot more like summer 2020. see all that orange and red on the map? well, that's because coronavirus cases are going up in all 50 states. covid hospitalizations have been rising for the better part of a month. this is the aggressive delta variant tears through unvaccinated communities. new guidelines could be on the way, even for those of us who are full