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good evening. we begin, this friday night, with the weight of a week's worth of evidence that our struggle with covid will not be over any time soon, unless, of course, a lot more people get vaccinated. without that, even though this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, it's going to continue to limit what the vaccinated can do, as well. that's where we are tonight. the country is now averaging close to 45,000 new cases, a day. about four-times more than a month ago. at the same time, only about 600,000 vaccine doses are being administered, daily, now. that's down from a peak of more than 4.5 million, a day, in march. so now, with the much-faster-spreading delta variant, by far, the dominant strain. hospital intensive-care units are, once again, filling up. localities are, once again, imposing mask mandates. the nfl this week imposing new penalties on teams with outbreaks due to unvaccinated players. even a number of red-state governors and other conservative politicians and tv personalities began shedding months of vaccine
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denial and defiance. not soon enough. in alabama, for example, the governor, today, pushed hard on people to get the vaccine. only 33 -- 33.9% in her state have. that's the worst in the nation. another thing that's become clear, this week, is that some people, for many reasons, just don't want to get the shot. not even as cnn's elle reeve discovered, when they've got the best reason in the world to just roll up their sleeve. >> reporter: did anyone you know get covid? >> my son had covid. >> how old is he? >> 8. >> wow, so that's, like, pretty rare for, like, a young kid. what -- what was that like? >> he was sick a lot. he's been sick a lot, for a while. and he is still sick so going to have to get him looked at and see if there is further damage. i don't know because he got real sick. fever, every day, for weeks. >> are you guys going to get the vaccine? >> no. no vaccine. >> how come? >> i just don't trust the government. >> it is extraordinary to hear that.
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an 8-year-old child -- child, sick for weeks, with a fever. still, sick. maybe, going to go see a doctor but the parents, the family still won't get vaccinated. tonight, conservative radio talk show host, phil valentine, is in the hospital with covid. for months, he's downplayed the need for most people to get vaccinated. today, his family posted this on social media. it reads in part, phil would like for his listeners to know that while he's never been an anti-vaxxer, he regrets not being more vehemently pro vaccine and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on air, which we all hope will be soon. the statement concludes quote, please continue to pray for his recovery, and please go get vaccinated. a vaccine doubter's family telling people, on his behalf, to get vaccinated which is, certainly, welcome. every voice helps. but again, this comes, after far too many people have died unnecessarily, including some who, in their very last, unassisted breaths before being put on a ventilator, have begged for a dose of the vaccine.
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it's a story our randi kaye heard, quite a bit, during her visit to a hospital in jacksonville, florida, and she joins us now. so you went to the covid ward at the hospital. what did you see there? >> anderson, we were at baptist medical center on the covid floor in jacksonville and i saw doctors and nurses gredesperate trying to save lives. the number of covid patients is increasing right now. they have 349 covid patients. 74 of them are in the icu. 72 of those 74 are on ventilators. that's how serious it is. they are also turning regular hospital beds now into icu beds because they need them so badly. we were there yesterday and on that same day, they had 60 new-covid patients come in. and i am told that 57 of those 60 were eligible for the vaccine. and, anderson, only one of them had, actually, received it. and that's the problem. 99.6% of the covid patients at that hospital are unvaccinated. so, i spoke to one nurse.
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and she told me that, in their desperate times, here they are facing a ventilator or being intubated. these unvaccinated patients are begging for the vaccine. listen to this. >> people who are here, who are unvaccinated, really staring down death, are any of them asking for the vaccine? or voicing regret? >> that's a great question. yeah, i mean, every single day, most of -- somebody was just saying we are getting ready to intubate the patient which means putting them on a ventilator and they said if i get the vaccine now, could i not go on the ventilator? so i mean, they are begging for it. when you are in icu with covid, it's not the time to get vaccinated. you got to do it now, before you get sick. they are desperate because they're gasping for air. they can't breathe. they are scared. they feel like they're going to pass away. and so, they're just asking for whatever they can do to possibly being kept from being put on a ventilator because once patients get on a ventilator, it's really hard to ween them off. >> and you say they are begging for the vaccine. >> they are, they are baegging.
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>> what do you tell someone who is begging for the vaccine now? >> we just tell them we are going to try to make it easier for you to breathe. relax. we are going to intubate you. we're going to keep you as comfortable as we possibly can. when you get better, we'll vaccinate you. >> and, anderson, the nurse there, you heard her saying that these unvaccinated patients are terrified. they're struggling to breathe. they are afraid they're going to die but these are patients, now, who chose not to get the vaccine. but now, desperately, want it, anderson. >> were you able to speak to any patients? >> i was. i spoke to three patients. all of them were on breathing machines. struggling to breathe, as i was speaking to them. they are in a lot of pain. all of them said that they regret not getting the vaccine. they all had the opportunity to do so. one woman told me that she was more afraid of the vaccine than getting the disease. well, now, that has certainly changed for her and they all told me that if they do survive this and they get out of the hospital, they will get the vaccine.
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but, anderson, one other note. they are also seeing a lot younger patients here, at this hospital. they told me that 44% of the covid patients they have, now, are 40 years old or younger. and they're, also, staying in the hospital much longer because they are much sicker, anderson. >> randi kaye, i appreciate it. thank you. joining us now, dr. jerome adams, who served as surgeon general in the former administration. in a recent op-ed for t"the washington post", he calls for tighter new guidelines on masking in light of the delta variant. quoting now, i was among those who initially thought the revised guidance might encourage more people to get vaccinated. after all, they could enjoy more pre-pandemic freedoms at lower risk but things have not worked out as i and other public health experts had hoped. in hindsight, he continues, there's clear the message many americans heard is that vaccinated or not, masks were gone, for good. we are pleased that dr. adams could join us tonight. thanks so much for being with us. i want to read more about what you said in "the washington post" op-ed. but first of all, you know, i don't know if you heard. but just a second ago, we played a sound -- sound that our
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reporter elle reeve was talking to a -- a mom in alabama. and the mom's 8-year-old child got covid. and according to her, had it bad and had been sick for weeks with a high fever. and was, still, not feeling good. and she was planning to go back to a doctor, try to figure out if there was any damage or anything that could be done. and yet, she, still, will not be vaccinated because she says she doesn't trust the government. as a doctor, i'm sure you have had patients like that. how do you -- how do you convince somebody, who sees their 8-year-old child sick and, still, sick. and still, doesn't want to get a vaccine for anybody? >> well, anderson, that story breaks my heart because i have an 11-year-old daughter, who is unable to be vaccinated, right now. and what i would say to your viewers, first of all, is the best way to protect the unvaccinated -- and remember, a lot of the unvaccinated are our children, who aren't eligible to be vaccinated -- is for adults around them to be vaccinated.
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but to your point, we have to remember that there are people who don't wear motorcycle helmets. there are people who drink and drive. there are people, who don't get cancer screenings. there are people, all the time, who don't do what health officials say. and as doctors, as public-health officials, it's our job to continue to treat them with compassion. to build that relationship, to build that trust. and you will win them over. and i know people don't believe this. but i win people over, every single day, with a compassionate touch. really approaching them, and trying to show them that i care because when people know that you care, they'll actually care what you know. 600,000 people are getting vaccinated, every single day. that's not as much as we'd like but that's, still, 600,000 people who are now protected and protecting those around them. so we've just got to keep at it. >> so i want to read more of what you wrote in "the washington post." you said i know what it's like to be well intentioned but wrong on masking. you went on to say, quote, after
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realizing you have errored, the best way forward is to own the situation, hit the reset button. that's what i did and that's what the cdc needs to do unquote. do you think, at this point, it's even possible to hit the reset button when it comes to masks? i mean, everyone is sort of -- the idea of putting on a mask, for a lot of people, feels like a huge step they don't want to take. a huge step backwards. >> well, i do believe and we have to have faith in that. we have got to start treating americans like adults. we try to make everything binary. we try to make it simple. we try to make it into a tweet. i'm sorry. covid is just not that simple. it's not. there is a lot of nuance and we've got to trust our health officials to give the best advice they can, at the time. and the cdc gave the best advice they could, at the time. but guess what? that was pre-delta surge. delta variant is changing things. that was putting trust in the american people to -- to -- to really do the right thing. but unfortunately, people chose to go out and pull their mask off, whether they were vaccinated or not. and so, the messaging needs to be adjusted. needs to be clarified, on the
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part of the cdc. but the american people need to own up to, hey, we are all in this together. we rise or fall, together. and you know, i push back. i don't think this is a pandemic of just the unvaccinated. we are all suffering through this pandemic but we need to help people understand that when you're unvaccinated, you are putting yourself and other people at risk, for sure. >> i think that's an important message because i do think a lot of people -- i mean, we have heard a lot of people who have chosen not to get the vaccine say, well, what do you care? you're vaccinated. you're fine. it ignores the fact that, you know, especially with the delta variant, even those who are vaccinated now can become sick. and even though you may not be hospitalized or die, it's still not pleasant to be sick. and you are sick and perhaps can pass it to your child. or the person that chosen not to get the vaccine it does affect those who are immunocompromised or children. and there is millions of children running around, who can't get vaccinated right now. and they are threatened by people who are choosing not to get vaccinated.
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>> absolutely. i have an 11-year-old daughter. i have a wife, who is still dealing with a cancer diagnosis. i have a mother, who had a stroke last year. these are, all, people who are vulnerable and are made vulnerable by the individuals around them. but they're, also, social consequences. we're going to see masks come back, whether we like it or not, in many communities. because when you have got a 20% positivity rate. when you have hospital wards full. that forces us to have to reengage in mitigation. so, young people, if you want the bars and restaurants to stay open. if you want to be able to go out in communities without your mask, then you have got to do your part and get vaccinated. the nfl, you mentioned. the olympics. there are people missing out on great opportunities, simply, because they wouldn't get vaccinated. and so, there are social benefits to getting vaccinated. but also, know this, delta variant. there was a recent study that showed you have 1,000 times the viral particles when you're infected with the delta variant, than when you were infected with previous variants. this is a different beast that we're dealing with.
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and it requires a more intense response. so please, i am pleading with you, get vaccinated. it is safe. most of the -- the problems you see with vaccines and history occur within the first couple of months. we've gotten hundreds of millions of people vaccinated. if this vaccine weren't safe, we'd know it, by now. that's not to say there aren't side effects, there aren't problems. but the benefits far outweigh the risks. >> so just unmasking because, you know, you are saying the cdc needs to revise their guidance. what would your guidance be, right now, to friends and family members and americans out there about -- even if you are vaccinated -- if you are vaccinated, where should you wear a mask? >> well, that -- that's a great question. the cdc put a lot of responsibility on individuals to make decisions. but i don't think they gave them granular-enough recommendations to be able to act on their own, best behalf. if you're unvaccinated, you need to get vaccinated, as soon as possible. and if you choose not to, then you need to mask up. if you are vaccinated, you need to understand that you still
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could be spreading this delta variant. not as much as if you were unvaccinated but you still could be spreading it. if you are going out in a public setting, then i suggest that you mask up, especially if you are in a community that -- that is seeing high prevalence numbers. and if you are taking care of someone who's sick, or someone who is unvaccinated, then you should, also, consider masking up when you go out in public around mixing of vaccinated and unvaccinated. and that's -- that's what we are seeing in schools, too. schools are struggling with this because you have got unvaccinated and vaccinated mixing. if you are in a high-prevalence area, then, please, listen to your health officials and consider masking up even if you are vaccinated. but if you are unvaccinated, especially, mask it up. >> dr. jerome adams, i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. just ahead, a report from the least-vaccinated state in the nation, alabama, on efforts there to get more shots in people's arms. next, though, breaking news on bail for one of the former president's old associates and why this one is anything but a get out of jail free card.
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there is breaking news tonight on one of the former president's many friends, associates, former friends and former associates, who have fallen afoul of the law. in this case, tom barrack. the very wealthy, very well traveled investor who learned today what getting out of jail will cost him while he is facing a string of federal charges. the figure is staggering. a quarter-billion-dollars bond, secured by 5 million in cash. cnn's paula reid joins us, now, with more. so when this indictment first came out, the justice department said mr. barrack was a flight risk. that he had friends in countries that don't have extradition treaties with the u.s., access to private jets. what changed? >> anderson, he has the best lawyers money can buy. as they said today, they moved mountains to convince prosecutors that he had put up enough to convince them he wasn't going to flee. now, as part of this deal, he has to wear an ankle-monitoring bracelet. he has to surrender his passport and abide by a curfew but this is still a really good deal for him because he narrowly avoided a flight on the notorious conair. the plane the u.s. marshals use
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to move people across the country because he is in california, his case is in new york. so overall, this is a really good deal for him. >> what did your sources tell you about whether or not he'll cooperate with officials. >> >> talked to a lot of sources close to this case, anderson, and i continue to hear that there is no expectation that mr. barrack will cooperate, in any ongoing investigation. specifically, those involving the former president or his family. now, anderson, we know a lot of people say that, right? and then, they realize they really just don't have the resources to defend themselves against the justice department. and they wind up having to cooperate. but here, i -- i think we've established that mr. barrack, certainly, has the resources to fight. not sure if he'll win but he, certainly, can fight. >> just lastly, two democratic lawmakers, house representative ted lieu and kathleen rice are requesting an investigation into whether mr. barrack's case was potentially suppressed by the previous administration. after cnn reported earlier this week, the prosecutors were confident they had enough evidence last year to bring charges. what more do we know on that?
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>> they had this evidence but the case didn't move forward and what's not clear is, did it not move forward because they knew -- the u.s. attorney at the time, richard donoghue, didn't support it? or was it because mr. donoghue did something to intentionally stall that case? we also know then-attorney general bill barr wasn't a big fan of these illegal lobbying cases. so it's unclear if the inspector general is going to take this up. but i think you can expect both sides of this case, anderson, to be arguing their politics at play. >> paula reid, appreciate it. thank you. it's fascinating. we are joined now by cnn legal an analyst. elliot williams. so, elliot, obviously, a lot of money. have you seen an amount like this for bail? 250 million bond and 5 million cash? >> i have not seen an amount like that but i have also never seen anyone with foreign-agent registrations that they failed to do with the united arab emirates and being a former president -- a friend of the president of the united states. look, this is a remarkable case, anderson. but just step back and let's look at what the law is. there are two reasons why people are detained, prior to their
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trials. either, they're a danger to the community. or they are a significant-flight risk. and the prosecution was saying, quite accurately, that he presents a significant source of risk. number one, the wealth. number two, the jets. number three, one of his co-defendants, actually, has already fled the country and they haven't found him in -- in a couple years. and so, yes, this is an alarming amount of money. and it just goes to show what $250 million can buy you in our criminal-justice system. >> how does someone disappear in this day and age? i mean, co-defendant fled in 2018, still remains at large. i find that kind of remarkable. i mean, anyway, i digress. but i mean, with -- with barrack's access to money and private jets and powerful people in other countries, does it make sense to you on what the strategy the justice department is imploring here? i mean, i guess, it would be 250 million at stake, if he split town. i don't know what his form of wealth is. >> uh-huh. well, it's not just the $250 million at stake, anderson. because, number one -- so imagine that he gets on his
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private jet and flies to the uae tomorrow. number one, okay, he loses the $250 million. number two, he becomes a fugitive from justice and is subject to additional charges for that. number three, any bank that transacts with him is considered aiding and abetting his flight. and any individual that helps him get to his assets in the united -- any individual in the u.s. who helps him is also subject to charges, themselves. so he would bring a whole bunch of other people into this and for a 7 -- what -- 3 or 4-year-old individual, who is already facing significant amount of jail time, it's incredibly risky. >> whether or not the justice department may have squashed this under the former administration. what do you think? what do you make of that? >> so, look. there is two different outcomes and two different things that could have happened here. number one, look. if, in fact, the justice department was squashing it and hiding things, then absolutely, both, congress and the independent inspector general within the justice department should look into this and get to the bottom of it. however, there is an entirely plausible explanation here.
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and believe me on this. that imagine they had the evidence in june -- june, july, august, september of last year in the run-up to a presidential election. it would have been very poor form for the justice department to bring charges against an ally of a president of the united states, regardless of what people think of donald trump. that's just bad for the justice department. and risky and a violation of justice-department procedures. so perhaps, it's not sitting on it or suppressing it. it's just waiting until after election day. or even after months after election day for a new-justice department to come in. that's not incredibly uncommon. >> elliot williams. appreciate it. thanks. tomorrow, the former president heads to arizona, ground zero for his lies about election fraud. we'll discuss his session with that state. plus, a new report that spells out just how much of the money his pac is raising, claiming it's going to the ballot recounts to fund that. how much is actually going to the fraudulent-ballot recounts, like the one in arizona? ge the . my great-great-grandmother, my great-grandfather, great-great-grandfather was that kind of person.
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"the washington post" reports that of the $75 million the former president's political action committee has raised in the first half of this year, none of it has gone to pay for the arizona recount or to support similar efforts across the country. and that is despite fundraising e-mails that talk, extensively, about the need to support so-called election integrity. according to "the post" sources, who are familiar with the finances the political action
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committee spends some on travel and staff but mostly, it's just holding onto all that cash that people gave them. the former president heads to arizona tomorrow, kyung lah has more on his focus on that state. #. >> reporter: as the so-called arizona audit begins its fourth month, there's been a constant drumbeat from donald trump. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: since it started in april, trump has blasted off more than two dozen statements to his loyal followers. amplifying the big lie, and praising arizona republicans. despite what arizona-senate president and leader of the effort karen fann publicly says. >> this is not about trump. this is not about overturning the election. this has never been about anything, other than election integrity. >> reporter: her e-mails tell another story. obtained by watchdog group american oversight last month, fann writes in a december e-mail that she spoke with mayor giuliani, at least six times, in
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two weeks. and mentions a private two-hour meeting with giuliani and the trump-legal team. in november, fann writes she asked the trump-legal team to, please, file a lawsuit to halt vote certification in the state. she tells another voter, last december, about a personal call from president trump thanking us for pushing to prove any fraud. but fann wasn't the only elected official who received calls from the trump orbit. maricopa county board supervisor, bill gates, got a voice mail on christmas day, 2020, from then-trump lawyer rudy giuliani. >> maybe, we can get this thing fixed up. >> reporter: do you believe that this entire thing was always about donald trump? >> yes. yes, i do. that's what this is about. this is about an effort to continue to raise doubts about the election system. >> he thinks, somehow, in arizona, the election was stolen from him. and it's just not true. >> reporter: but trump wants it to be true, says kirk adams,
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lifelong republican and former chief of staff to arizona's republican governor. >> he believes here in maricopa county can somehow be proven that the election was stolen, that it will, therefore, mean it was stolen in other states, like pennsylvania or else -- georgia or elsewhere that he needed to win. >> so, the -- so, the former president is going to -- to arizona tomorrow. the -- this audit, obviously, has been ridiculed as a sham. it's not an official audit, at all. it's, still, going on, anyway, behind you. and arizona republicans are still clamoring to get onstage tomorrow with the former president. what do you expect to happen tomorrow at the rally? >> well, we're expecting to hear the former president say exactly what he's been saying in the statements. he is going to perpetuate the big lie because he wants it to be true, even though it is not true. even though this audit, which has been maligned by
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federal-election officials, independent auditors, independent people who run these audits, legitimate audits, say that this is completely a sham and a show and an exercise. so, we're expecting him to -- to p perpetuate that myth, anderson. but that's not stopping a number, a very long list of 2022 republican candidates for arizona governor, for the u.s. senate, to want to be onstage with him because the republican base finds donald trump popular and they believe what he says. >> yeah, kyung lah, appreciate it. thank you. and i just want to repeat what we mentioned earlier. according to "the washington post," the former president's pac has raised $75 million, this year, on the back of these election-fraud conspiracies. all those newsletters, all those appeals about, you know, what they call election integrity. but to quote "the washington post," trump has been uninterested in personally bankrolling the effort. the pac has mostly been sitting on all that cash. perspective, now, from maggie
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haberman, washington correspondent for "the new york times" and cnn political analyst. and david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama and cnn senior political commentator. maggie, if the former president bel believes this, you would think he would be using every single resource, including the money his supporters donated to him that he was asking them for in order to kind of fight these battles to uncover evidence but he's not. >> you would, anderson, and you raise a key point, which is that he raised this money on this premise. that this was about fighting the election results that he has repeatedly, falsely claimed were the result of widespread fraud. but this is in keeping with who donald trump is. number one, he uses people's money when he can. he tries to have other people pay for things, when he can. and, two, he often tries to have other people do things for him. he tends to try to not have his direct fingerprints on things that could be controversial. some of this might be a strategic choice by him. some of this, i think, is also
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being driven candidly by the fact that most of his advisers are not happy with his focus on these arizona efforts and his efforts to -- to -- his attempts to try to find similar efforts in other states or at least push for efforts in other states. they think it's counterproductive. they think it's not helping him and they think it's going to make it harder for other republicans to keep supporting him, going forward. >> david, i don't know what the technical definition of a grift is. but the former president's pac was formed in the wake of the 2020 election loss with a barrage of e-mails going out to raise money for election recounts. i mean, we reported, at the time, that given the very loose rules about how that money could be spent, this could very well end up being a political slush fund that he had control over how it was spent. isn't that exactly what this has turned into? >> 100%. you don't have to be sherlock holmes here, anderson. it's very, very clear. this is a con. he's asking people to contribute money to fight a legal battle that has no foundation. i mean, it's been thrown out of just about every court in the country where it's been
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contested. and -- but he gets to pocket the money. and let's point out. you know, we -- we know, from other reporting, that, you know, he is -- he's got financial pressures and so on and he can offload a bunch of his -- certainly, a bunch of his political expenses and other expenses onto this fund. so this is -- yeah, he is taking advantage of his cult here. and -- and, you know, meanwhile, he's propagating these myths about the election. particularly, the arizona one. i mean, that have been just so readily debunked, including by the republican-election officials in maricopa county. >> right. >> so, you know, it is a con. it is a scam. and -- and people are involved in fantasy fulfillment for donald trump. >> and it goes on. i mean, now, maggie, he's going to -- to arizona to go onstage. to have all the politicians who are going to be running are going to be on the stage with him or dying to -- to get a photo with him.
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and there will be, i'm sure, more e-mails going out about sending money to him to continue fighting for what they are calling is election integrity. even though that's a ruse. >> it's interesting, anderson. you know, he -- he was talking -- some reporting that he was talking to an adviser a couple of weeks ago and he was trying to push this person to say, you know, that -- that this idea that he could be reip st reinstated in august is real, which it isn't, to be clear. squ and he was trying to push this person to say this arizona effort and other efforts could really be productive in terms of undoing results of the election. they won't be. but when this person told him that they weren't going to do that, that it just wasn't true. he said something to the effect of, you know, i know that this is almost impossible but i want to keep the focus on election integrity. he is knowingly letting people have this hope. and whether it's just because he wants to believe it. whether it is just because, as david says, he wants to raise money, you are correct. his efforts are going to be
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focused, tomorrow, not just on e-mails going out but his actual words to this -- to the people he is talking to are going to be encouraging of trying to undo the election. and yes, there is profitability for him in it and it just can't be ignored. >> and, david, yeah, go ahead. >> if i could just comment on this. you know, we've -- it has really dramatic consequences because there are people who believe him. we know that. they're the same people who send the money. they are the people who showed on on january 6th. and by propagating these myths, he is also inciting what we've, already, seen can be very, very dangerous actions on the part of people. so, you know, yes, it's a scam. he is also -- >> david, it's not just that -- it's not just that people believe him, david. it's that legislators are -- across the country -- are actually trying to pass legislation, based on this fantasy. i mean, they're -- they are -- i mean, that's what's behind all these, you know, what they are
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calling election-integrity bills in various state legislatures. which, you know, democrats and others are calling, you know, attempts at voter suppression. >> yeah, the arguments for that legislation around the country are, in fact, the real-election fraud. we had, probably, the most certifiably honest election in the history of the country and the most litigated. and, you know, and so this isn't about curing a problem. it's about creating anxiety. and then, using that anxiety to justify restrictive-voting laws that they feel will advantage their party. and that trump is demanding. >> maggie and david, i am just told that my crack team of researchers looked up the definition of grift and according to merriam webster, it is to obtain money or property illicitly as in a confidence game. sounds about right. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. next, more on covid and vaccine refusal. our gary tuchman has spent the day at a vaccine clinic in alabama trying to understand why so many of its residents, the
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mentioned alabama's governor, kay ivey, and the exasperation she expressed when asked about the large number of people in her state which has the lowest vaccination rate in the country not getting their covid shots. here is some of that exchange. >> what is it going to take to get people to get shots in arms? >> i don't know. you tell me. folks supposed to have common sense. but it's time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. it's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down. >> but as a leader of the state, don't you think it's your responsibility to try and help get this situation under control? >> i've done all i know how to do. i can encourage you to do something, but i can't make you take care of yourself. >> according to the cdc, only 33.9% of alabama residents are fully vaccinated. and the white house says hospitalizations are up 60% in the state from the week prior. "360's" gary tuchman spent a day at a clinic in one of the largest counties in alabama to
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get a better understanding about why the resistance to vaccines is so high. >> reporter: it's 5:00 p.m. and a pop-up covid vaccine clinic has just opened at mobile, alabama's annual bay bites food truck festival. there is a choice of all three vaccines but there are no takers. only the workers for the mobile county health department. but ten minutes later, the ceo of the soul heaven cafe leaves her food truck and becomes the first visitor, choosing the pfizer vaccine. >> lily, you are done. that's pretty easy, right? >> it was, real easy. >> reporter: mobile county has more than 400,000 people. and one of the lowest vaccination rates of any large county in america, at 37%. in a state that is the lowest in the country, at 34%, the county-health department is striving for more frequent outreach to get people vaccines. and that's why its employees are here. ten minutes later, another woman gets a vaccine.
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cindy. she chooses moderna. >> you told me you have multiple sclerosis and your doctor told you you are okay to get the vaccine. >> my husband's been after me to do it and i know it needed to be done so i am really glad to have gotten it. i'm glad that they are here doing this, today. because otherwise, i'd still be kind of dragging my feet. >> reporter: 40 minutes passes by, with no more vaccine customers. but two people then show up. don bates, on the left. brittany williams, on the right. >> the reason wi'm doing it because i can do it. >> it's right here and it's free. >> most of my family's been vaccinated and they have been pushing me and pushing me and i have been putting it off but the delta variant kind of scares me so -- >> that's why you got it today? >> yeah. >> reporter: it's now 6:00, one hour into the vaccinating. the curiosity level is high. but the vaccinating level is not. you have met four people who have gotten the vaccine. those are the only four, who came over the first hour. the health department is sponsoring other vaccine events at places, such as truck stops,
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coffee shops, and car dealerships. the department's director of disease surveillance is dr. rendy murphy, she says her department must be creative. >> since july 4th, we have just had an explosion of cases. you know, a doubling or tripling of the number of cases, every seven days. it's accelerating greatest in the age groups of 18 to 49. >> back at the food-truck festival, jacqueline is 22. and says no vaccine for her. >> i just don't think that i need it. so i'm not going to get it. >> do you know, though, that almost everyone who is dying or being hospitalized is somebody who hasn't been vaccinated? the people who have been vaccinated, almost all of them, are not going to the hospital and not dying. does that concern you? >> not really. i'm a healthy person. i don't have any underlying-health issues so i'm not really concerned about it. >> i will just do the johnson & johnson. >> okay. that's perfect. >> reporter: but those who are concerned continue a slow trickle to the vaccination tent. jason sullivan says he wasn't
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planning to get a vaccine until coming to this festival. >> how come you waited this long? >> um, based off a lot of stuff that i heard off, you know, the internet and what people were saying about the covid shot. >> basically, rumors? >> rumors. rumors. >> reporter: it's now 8:00. the vaccinations at the food-truck fair are over. the final number of people who got vaccinations, 12. that's an average of four an hour. it's not a big number. but the health department workers will tell you the numbers are getting higher at their various outreach events over the last week. good news, amid the delta variant bad news. >> and gary joins us now from mobile, alabama. so are the health department workers disappointed with the turnout for vaccines at the food-truck festival? >> yeah. the workers, anderson, are not disappointed. they have been holding events like this for several weeks now and a couple of the events only had one person getting vaccinated. so this event had 12 people. that is an 1,100% increase and these are glass-half-full kind
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of people. they will keep holding the events and keep hoping that the vaccination numbers go up. >> yeah. i got to say, public-health workers. i mean, they are unsung heroes. they get no credit. they get people in their face probably all the time, these days, because the way things are but they do incredibly important work. so, gary, appreciate it. thank you. and i am glad you profiled them. coming up. what food costs more in terms of land, water, and pollution, than any other? well, the answer is in the new cnn special report "eating planet earth: the future of your food." i will have a preview, next. but eventually, with spring comes rebirth. everything begins anew. and many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other like-minded people. welcome back to the world. viking. exploring the world in comfort... once again.
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according to scientists, the humble cow cost more in land, water, and air pollution than any other on the planet. that being said, the equally humble hamburger. isn't likely to disappear any time soon. a new cnn special report. eating planet earth. i certainly like my hamburgers. but as bill weir discovered in his new cnn special report, "eaten planet earth the future of your food." >> we are going to go to a classic patty melt. we are going to show you some meatballs for the beef. and then, the pork variety, we are going to do some buns, as well as some pork bolognese.
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>> oh, beautiful. all of this will be made with flavored plants and in five years, a guy with no experience in food or business took impossible, from one restaurant, to over 30,000, including burger king and starbucks and 20,000 stores. >> here we go. the moment of truth. lots of burger. >> oh, yeah. >> mid, rare, to medium. absolutely. you ever heard of a burger taste? this is what we do. we taste the burger. >> cheers. >> wow. that's really good. >> got to go in for seconds. >> reporter: and since everything is political, these days, don't take my word for it. get a load of conservative fire brand and ranch owner, glen beck. >> i would say a is meat. b is the fake burger.
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>> b is the real burger. a is the impossible burger. >> that is insane. >> that is insane. bill weir joins me, now, for more on his special report that airs in just minutes at the top of the hour. the first time a car raced a horse. the horse won. the car is getting better. horses aren't improving. that technology is getting bigger and bigger. the only way to get carnivores off meat, you have to come up with something that taste just as good. at the same price or less.
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the plant based ones that's the beginning. we met one founder of companies that discovered a new protein in the water of yellow stone national park. >> a huge thing. >> yeah. they can make out of the same stuff you can make yogurt, a chicken breast. a hamburger. you wouldn't know the difference. it's expected they could take 40 to 60% of the meat market in 20 years. it's addressing a massive problem. there's so much waste in the food system. a billion tons is wasted every year. it's so hard for small family farms to compete against giant factories. we look at all of the different problems and the really solutions that are out there. >> it's extraordinary whey they are doing now. i hadn't realized with cows even
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the flatulence is a serious contributor to methane gas. and the warming of the planet. it's like 4%. >> it's the burps than the toots. that's the case. 1.4 billion cows and all have four stomachs. and put out planet cooking greenhouse gas. than the oil wells that leak all that. they're working on engineering a planet friendly cow. if you feed them seaweed. it goes down 90%. and lobster in maine are growing kelp to feed cows approximate people. >> the news continues next with don lemon tonight. panera. order on the app today.
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