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the news continues. i'm going to turn things back over to don who is in ohio tonight with the presidential town hall and president biden. don? this is "don lemon tonight." welcome, everyone. i am here broadcasting live to you from beautiful cincinnati. that's where tomorrow i'm going to be moderating cnn's town hall with the president of the united states, joe biden. coming to you from the iconic union terminal train station. isn't it beautiful? it's an art deck oo masterpiece that in its 8 0-year history ha hosted presidents, vice presidents like president biden during the campaign. six months after taking the oath
of office, in america, that can really do amazing things. like go to space, you saw that today, like create miracle vaccines, we've witnessed that. but we cannot bridge the political divide that's tearing us apart. billionaires taking their own rockets way up into space. amazon's jeff bezos built a company and built his own rocket ship and took off for space. he did that today. bezos telling our very own anderson cooper that he is looking to the future. >> we have lots of problems on earth and we have poverty, we have hunger, we have all kinds of problems. we have climate disasters, we have pollution. we have to work on the here and now. and we have to look to the future. we as a society, as a civilization, as humanity, we've always done that. >> we can go to space. we can create amazing vaccines, safe, effective and ahead even the most ambitious schedules. vaccines that save lives that
even if it is life or death, we can decrease the political divide and convince people to get vaccinated. an average of 34,000 new cases every single day. 97% of patients in hospitals are unvaccinated. and 99.5% of people who die are unvaccinated. president biden urging the holdouts to get the shots. >> we have to stay vigilant, especially with the delta variant that's out there. while covid-19 cases are rising, virtually all of the covid deaths, virtually all of the covid deaths and hospitalizations are from unvaccinated people. let me say it again. virtually all are from unvaccinated people. that means the safest thing to do is to get vaccinated. get vaccinated. that's why we're focusing on our next phase on getting the unvaccinated vaccinated. i know it seems like a constant uphill climb, but gradually
we're making progress. we've got a way to go yet. >> the reality is most of the cases we're seeing now, 83%, the delta variant. the fact is it's not a serious threat to people who are vaccinated, but it is a threat to the unvaccinated. yet here we are. with miracle vaccines and far too many people refusing to take them. far too many people buying in to the misinformation that is literally killing us. a majority of vaccine holdouts say that they're not at all likely to even get the shot, no matter what anybody says. only a quarter or less say they would be likely to change their minds. that's according to a new "axios" ipsos poll. nothing seems to make a dent, not even children too young to be vaccinated. dr. walensky pushing back on people who try to argue that not that many children have died. >> one thing i just want to know about the children is, i think we fall into this flawed
thinking of saying that only 400 of these 600,000 deaths from covid-19 have been in children. children are not supposed to die. so 400 is a huge amount for a respiratory infection. >> but the misinformation keeps spreading, especially on capitol hill. that's where the delta variant has been detected, prompting the capitol doctor to urge members to get vaccinated and to consider mafsking up. that is one of the chief vaccine deniers, rand paul, who tried to make dr. anthony fauci his personal punching bag today as they went head to head with rand paul saying dr. fauci somehow funded the lab in wuhan. >> do you wish to retract your
statement of may 11 where you claim the nih never funded research and move on? >> senator paul, you don't know what you're talking about, quite frank frankly, and i want to say that officially. you do not know what you're talking about. this is a pattern that senator paul has been doing now at multiple hearings based on no reality. he talks about gain of function. this has been evaluated multiple times by qualified people to not fall under the gain of function definition. i have not lied before congress, i have never lied, certainly not before congress. you are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals. i totally resent that. and if anybody is lying here, senator, it is you. >> what is wrong with rand paul? seriously. i know that's what you at home are thinking because i'm thinking the same thing. what's wrong with him? what is he trying to prove? there is nothing to prove there
and he keeps embarrassing himself. rand paul, stop it. you look like an idiot. the lying, the misinformation. it's why we can't bridge the political gap even though our lives are at stake, and you still have people who are acting like rand paul. here's what a recent "washington post" abc news poll found, that 45% of republicans were unlikely to get vaccinated. only 6% of democrats were. it's no surprise the white house is trying to fix this, trying to bridge the gap by reaching out to -- wait for it -- the fox propaganda network, yet the home of vaccine hesitancy and the outright hostility from the likes of tucker carlson and laura ingram. although some hosts, some, have talked about the positives of the vaccine. white house presidential secretary jen psaki saying this today. >> we understand also the importance of reaching fox's audience about the covid-19 vaccines and their benefits, and like we are with all of you here today, we, of course, are in
regular contact. >> and sean hannity who previously downplayed the pandemic but has been in favor of vaccines, calling on his audience to take covid seriously. >> please take covid seriously. i can't say it enough. enough people have died. we don't need any more deaths. research like crazy. talk to your doctors, medical professionals you trust based on your unique medical history, your current medical condition, and you and your doctor make a very important decision for your own safety. take it seriously. you also have a right to medical privacy, doctor-patient confidentiality is also important, and it actually makes sense for many americans to get vaccinated. i believe in science, i believe in the science of vaccination. >> let's see if this sticks, if he sticks to that message. we'll see. mr. mcconnell today urging
anyone listening to get vaccinated. >> if there's anyone out there willing to listen, get vaccinated. these shots need to get in everybody's arm as rapidly as possible or we're going to be back in a situation in the fall that we don't yearn for that we went through last year. >> steve scalise vaccinated with his first dose over the weekend reportedly because of concerns about the delta variant. >> are you telling constituents to get vaccinated? >> sure, yeah. i've been vaccinated again, and i have high confidence in the process that was used to bring these vaccines -- in fact, it's not only saving lives in america, but it's saying lives worldwide through american ingenuity. >> our vino -- vaccine officials
had the opportunity to get vaccinated a while ago. president biden's infrastructure deal teetering on the brink tonight with a key vote tomorrow afternoon. then there is a division over the big lie that fueled the attack by a trump supporting mob trying to overturn our free and fair election. we all saw it with our own eyes, yet far too many deniers in the gop are trying to whitewash what happened, trying to stop the january 6 select committee from getting to the truth. >> we know what this is about. this is about the democrats attacking president trump again like they've done for what, now, five years? >> no, this is not about attacking the former president at all. this is about the attacks by his supporters, beating hero police officers attempting to defend the seat of our government. the doj releasing new video tonight from police body cameras. i need to warn you, because what you're about to see and hear is
truly disturbing, but it is the truth of what happened on that terrible day. you're going to see a rioter taking a swing at police with an american flag. officers shoved and writhing in pain. >> get back! >> that is the truth of what happened. the truth far too many in the gop are trying to bury. we just can't seem to bridge the political divide, the divide over the pandemic that is killing us. the divide over the big lie that is threatening our democracy. but like i said, we can still do amazing things. president joe biden making that clear today. >> i'm making it absolutely clear that democracy is more
capable, more capable, and america is back, whether it's helping vaccinate the world, we're not just vaccinating ourselves. we'll help vaccinate the world. we're building back ready to create jobs in the middle class not just at home, but everywhere. >> the stakes couldn't r hbe hir for president biden and the clock is ticking with midterms next year. can he save the elections in his own party?
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tomorrow. republicans try to block the vote although democrats say they will advance it next week. mr. david chalian here and
also senior senior commentator john kasich, former governor of ohio. >> you'll be doing a town hall with the president. can you believe it, lemon? it's unbelievable. >> i think my mom already knows that, but thank you very much, john kasich. >> i'm saying she's proud of you. she's proud of you. >> i know. thank you very much. i appreciate it. i'm just having fun with you. but i have to get to the business on hand. talk to me about where this country is right now when it comes to the president.
his significant accomplishments early, covid is back. at first we thought it was over, right? he's got a lot on his plate. much of his agenda is stalled. what do we do?
>> well, i mean, i think the state of this moment six months in for joe biden is that he is a president pre siding over a country that is extraordinarily divided. and while he talked a lot in the campaign and his inaugural address about breaking through those divisions, i think we see six months in how hardened a lot of those divisions are. that being said, on covid, don, that is the thing that the country has actually rallied around joe biden on. it is by far his highest approval rating in the polls, his rating on covid. we'll see if that holds with this resurgence we're seeing with unvaccinated americans right now, but that has been his strong suit. he is dealing with a moment in time right now where this virus is not fully behind the country. clearly, it's not, and he's
going to need to keep that front and center while his major legislative packages, the infrastructure, the hard infrastructure, roads and bridges, and the soft infrastructure facing a do or die moment on capitol hill. >> is it fair to blame the misinformation of people who are not getting vaccinated on the president? he's out there every day telling people to get vaccinated. there is resistance and hesitancy in the country. i'm sure there is something he could do, but i'm not sure what more the administration could do. >> by no means am i blaming the misinformation out there on the vaccine on joe biden at all. even among some people who didn't vote for joe biden, they approve of the way he's been handling the covid crisis in this country. clearly the president has to keep doing what he's doing in the sense of -- on the vaccine every day, hammering americans to get vaccinated. what we've seen here, there is only so far that will go.
i don't know how much of this is in joe biden's control to get a lot of people that tune out joe biden or in information echo chambers that do not sort of convey the president's message of what he's trying to do on the vaccine. it's going to be very hard for joe biden to reach those. other folks are going to need to reach those americans. >> governor, i want to bring you in now because you're the former governor of the state. biden and you both believe he could work with republicans. but even more importantly, you both believe republicans could work with him. were you right or were you wrong? >> well, look. i mean, two things. first of all, the mood and the tone in our country is much better. people aren't waking up in the morning trying to figure out what the heck just happened down there in the white house, and that's been a really good positive. but i will tell you, don, i think that joe biden is frankly afraid to offend the left wing of his party. and that stops him. look, you might have an infrastructure bill. the minute they negotiate an infrastructure bill, the left
goes crazy and then he goes, well, we're not going to do this if we don't get the $6 trillion package. and then he had to walk that back. at some point a leader has to be willing to say to the members of his own party, particularly those that are not in the middle of this country, those who are on the extreme, you have to say, sorry, we're not going to go there. and the problem he has, cof course, some republicans, no matter what he does will not cooperate with him, but we're getting close to this infrastructure package, infrastructure as i know it. when they say soft infrastructure, that's a term that just got invented by people. there are some parts of it that are good, but you can't shove it down everybody's throat, you have to break it down into pieces and see what you can get done. but people aren't waking up saying, hey, honey, did you hear what the president did? and that's a positive for our country. >> david, i have to ask you that. democrats, even progressives
like bernie sanders, alexandra cortez, so far they have hung with the president. do you think it's fair what john is saying, that he can't offend the left wing of his party? they have seemed to have stood by him. is there hesitation coming from the left wing of his party? >> the surprise is how much of the left has stayed on board. we understand those divisions that exist in the democratic party to really go forward. i think covid, don, kept a lot of that at bay initially because they were so unified in getting the relief package passed and getting their arms around this virus that that was mission-critical number 1, but now i don't see this is a president that is fearful of the left. i actually think this is a president putting together some of the most progressive initiatives that we've seen in decades in this country put forward in this democratic only reconciliation bill, the soft
infrastructure, if you will. there is some sort of historic investments that joe biden is making thavt have been on the progressive wish list. i don't know that fethat's fearl of the party, i think he's investing in a way that people like bernie sanders are eager to see. >> he just made my point. he's doing the bidding of the left. the problem he's going to have with this soft infrastructure package, this additional $3 trillion in spending with we don't even know all the taxes, but a lot of them -- larry summers, the former democrat guy who was running the treasury department is worried about inflation. we're seeing inflation today which hurts everybody. but what we know is that there are many democrats who are not on the left. we have democrats who are more conservative who are worried about getting re-elected. so david made the good case, yeah, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, they're all happy. but that's not where the party is. and, frankly, that's not the way
that joe biden ran for president. he ran for president to pull people together and not be idealogical. >> you seem to be making two different arguments here. you're saying he's getting pulled by the left, but the party is actually more centrist. >> he is. >> i don't understand your argument there, because as david just said, the real story here is that the left has stood by him. quite honestly, it doesn't seem that your argument is making sense. if you look at the democrats who are elected across this country -- let me fin ish my point, john, we have a delay -- even the mayor who is elected in new york city -- okay, we have a delay. yeah, okay. >> i'm listening. >> if you look at the people who are actually elected among democrats, it is moderate democrats. it's not the left. the left may be getting the most media attention.
maybe the media has somehow bought into the republican narrative of what the democratic party is, but that's not what the actual party is, and perhaps that's not what joe biden is. perhaps joe biden is doing the leading instead of the left leading him. >> that's where i disagree. i think -- listen, the reason why those on the left are happy is because bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are really happy about it. eric adams, the new mayor of new york, and it looks like he's going to be terrific, he is moderate. what i'm saying to you is, when it comes to this big package of spending and taxes, you're going to see the conservative democrats sort of say, oh, no, i don't think we can go for that. so what i'm suggesting to you is biden should be more in the center. he ran as a centrist. he didn't run for $6 trillion in spending and all these taxes. he never uttered any of that on the campaign trail. he was to the right of elizabeth warren. he was to the right of all those other candidates. but i don't think he's governing that way. he's doing a good job on the
f infrastructure. i hope that becomes a habit and the mood and the tone is better. and i welcome all that. >> david, i'll give you the last word. >> i just think what governor kasich is saying is actually making the case for why joe biden is approaching these two legislative pieces the way he is on this dual track, that he is making this all-out effort for bipartisanship, don, not only because he thinks that's the way the country is best governed, but also it's because what joe manchin and kiryrsten sinema demand, they want a full-out for bipartisanship for all these priorities. he has to work both at the same time. that's why tomorrow is so critical, because if it falls apart, it will all get collapsed in one big package and that will be a tough sell to keep all democrats on board with. i l >> i lied, i get the last word. happy birthday, david. 25 all over again.
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just in case you missed it, we want to play an intense moment for you between dr. anthony fauci and rand paul. dr. fauci told rand paul he doesn't know what he's talking about, paul pushing false claims that fauci's institute played a role in starting the pandemic and saying the institutes of health funded a so-called gain in funding research. that is to help viruses grow better or make them more infectious. here's how it went down. >> dr. fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to congress, do you wish to retract your statement of may 11 where you claimed that the nih never funded gain of function research in wuhan? >> senator paul, i have never
lied before the congress. >> your microphone. >> senator paul, i have never lied before the congress, and i do not retract that statement. this paper that you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function. let me finish. >> you take an animal virus and you increase the tran transmissibility to humans, that's not gain of function? >> yeah, and senator paul, you do not know what you're talking about. i want to say that officially. you do not know what you're talking about. you get one person -- can i answer the question? >> this is your division that you guys wrote. it says that scientific research that increases the tr transmissibility among animals is gain of function. they took animal viruses that only occur in animals and they
increased their transmissibility to humans. how you can say that's not gain of function -- >> it is not. >> it's a dance and you're dancing around this because you're trying to obscure responsibility for 4 million people dying around the world of a pandemic. >> dr. fauci? >> mnow you're getting to something. if the point that you are making is the grant that was funded as a sub-award from ecohealth to wuhan created sarscov-2 -- >> it all points to the lab and there will be funding for the lab, including yourself. >> i totally resent the lie that you are now propagating, senator, because if you look at the viruses that were used in the experiments, that were given in the annual reports, that were
published in the literature, it is month ele-- molecularly impossible -- >> we're saying gain of function research was going on in that lab and it funded it. you are obfiscating the truth. >> i am not obfiscating the truth. you are. i want everyone to understand that if you look at those viruses, and that's judged by qualified virologists and evolutionary biologists. those viruses are molecurly impossible to cause covid-19. >> i'm saying they are animal viruses to contain the virus. >> and you are implying that
what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals. i totally resent that, and if anybody is lying here, senator, it is you. >> senator smith. >> thank you, dr. fauci. and thanks to all of our panelists for being here today and thank you, chairman and ranking member burr. i just want to say, dr. fauci, is there anything more that you would like to say to counteract these attacks on your integrity that we've all just witnessed? >> senator, thank you. i don't think i have anything further to say. this is a pattern that senator paul has been doing now at multiple hearings based on no reality. he keeps talking about gain of function. this has been evaluated multiple times by qualified people to not fall under the gain of function definition. i have not lied before congress, i have never lied, certainly not
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welcome back, everyone, to cincinnati and the beautiful cincinnati terminal. the senate held a hearing today that was supposed to be about the federal covid response, but gop senator rand paul useing it to attack dr. fauci in a fiery exchange in what has become a very familiar pattern in covid hearings. we played it for you in the last segment. joining me now, cnn's medical
ana analyst, dr. john reiner. i appreciate having him on. thank you, doctor, i appreciate it. doctor, this is not the first time these two men have gone at it. listen to this and then we'll talk. >> let me just state for the record that masks are not theater, masks are protective, and we -- >> if you already have immunity, you're wearing a mask to give comfort to others. you're not wearing a mask because of any science. >> i totally disagree with you. >> dr. fauci, do you still funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely examineand completely incorrect. >> dr. fauci, knowing it is a crime to lie to congress, do you wish to retract your statement of may 11 where you claimed the nih never funded gain of function research in wuhan? >> senator paul, you do not know
what you're talking about, quite frankly, and i want to say that officially. you do not know what you are talking about. >> so, dr. reiner, you're a doctor. rand paul is supposedly a doctor, yet he's picking these fights. why does he continue to beclown himself and how is this helping the federal covid response? >> well, it obviously doesn't help the covid response, don. look, almost from the outset, senator paul has been trying to, you know, deflect or sort of mask the prior administration's disastrous response and sort of throw blame on others, and particularly dr. tony fauci. what he did dishonestly today was really conflate two issues. he raised this issue of the national institute of algae infectious disease support for a research lab at that wuhan institute, and he tried to
basically link that to the sars co-v-2 virus. he tried to make it sound like the research supporting the nih led to the sars-cov-2 virus. that's what enraged dr. fauci, understandably so. he's really -- senator paul is the person who, while he was waiting for his covid lab results to come back, decided it was a great idea to take a swim in the senate pool. he's the person that during the hottest days of the virus in january refused to wear a mask on the senate floor. and to this day, he has refused to be vaccinated, claiming that he has all the immunity that he needs. look, he picks a fight with somebody who is perhaps the world's expert on this topic and something that he really knows very little about.
>> a pediatrician group finding 23,000 children caught the coronavirus last week, and i just want you to listen to what the cdc director is saying about that this week. here it is. >> one thing i just want to note with the children is i think we fall into this flawed thinking of saying that only 400 of these 600,000 deaths from covid-19 have been in children. children are not supposed to die. so 400 is a huge amount for a respiratory virus. >> i know a lot of parents were comforted earlier in this pandemic that children are not getting sick. but she's right. how should people be thinking about this? >> 400 fatalities in children is an enormous toll. the worst year on record for flu was two years ago and 188 children died, and that was
unacceptable. the way to think about it is this, don. even though the case fatality rate for covid in children is very low, if you multiply that very low number by a very large number of infections, we'll see a completely unacceptable tragic number of children dying. so even if only .001% of children die, if millions of children become infected, we'll see a tragic, horrible number of children getting very sick and dying. that's the point that dr. walensky was trying to make. >> and the cdc director, dr. walensky, saying today that the highly transmissible covid variant makes up 83% of all covid cases. this variant is clearly highly
transmissible. what do vaccinated and unvaccinated people need to know today? >> vaccinated people need to know they are very well protected. it is extraordinarily unlikely they will become ill. it's unlikely they will become infected. it's much more unlikely that they will become ill and possibly die. the unvaccinated needs to know that you can die from this virus. it is much more transmissible and you can very well die. all of the people in hospitals now essentially are unvaccinated around the country. there was 7,000 new cases in florida today. in two weeks we're going to start to see, again, unacceptably high levels of death coming out of the south and southwest and up through the midwest in this country. it doesn't have to happen. this is happening in unvaccinated people. we have the answer. it's just the shot. get the shot. >> get the shot. during the height of the
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president biden marking six months in office by addressing multiple challenges facing his presidency during his second full cabinet meeting touting what he called the historic economic progress that's been made since he took office. thanks in part to his covid stimulus package. joining me now democratic senator sherrod brown of ohio. thank you so much for joining. i appreciate it. let's talk about what the president is doing. he's taking up his american rescue plan and the impact on the economy. a lot of the focus has been on the expansion of the child tax credit which i know you're very passionate about. the president says this is how he's going to show that democracy can still work for people. how would you describe it,
senator? >> you're exactly right. he's coming to cincinnati tomorrow to talk about that and to make sure people are signed up. 65 million american children are eligible. the parents will get up to or exactly $250 a month starting this past week and then monthly out through the end of the year and beyond, if we extend it, or $300 a month if their child is under six. it will lift 40% of american kids out of poverty. it makes a big deal. i did a bunch of round tables around ohio a couple weeks ago and you hear these stories. a mother said i can send my son to a summer camp, a dad said i can play softball equipment for my daughter. others have said, i'm anxious every month, the last week of the month to figure out how to pay my rent. the good part about it is these families, they choose.
we don't make the decision about how they're going to spend their money. they do. and it empowers these families to launch their children and give them more opportunity as they grow up. >> empowering and transformative, as it has been described by some democrats in washington. senator, ohio is a good representation of the u.s. as a whole. it is diverse. there's urban areas, rural areas and a fairly even distribution of democrats and republicans. why haven't they been able to connect here? >> i'll answer it this way. i think that for the first time in a long time, in either party, a president of the united states is putting workers at the center of trade policy, tax policy, wages, all that we need to do. in the past, presidents of both partie