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testing positive. four have tested positive among the 11,000 athletes from 200 countries expected to compete there but not all of them have arrived in japan. some are getting positive covid tests before they leave home. among this group is coco gaffe. more than 61 covid cases linked to the tokyo games for the fifth consecutive day the city of tokyo reported more than 1,000 new infections. this just yesterday. unlike in years past there will be no crowds cheering on the athletes and the city is under a state of emergency as well. until august 22nd, that after the games are over. sanjay gupta is in tokyo live with us this morning. we just got an update in numbers, sanjay. so now it is 61 cases linked to the olympics and 33 are from residents of japan and 28 from the olympics, includes athletes
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here. based on the numbers so far and the size of the overall group coming into tokyo, is that a concerning percentage at this point? >> reporter: well, you think it is still seems like it is relatively rare, these type of infections. we don't know what percentage of those people that you just listed there have been vaccinated or not. vaccines are not mandatory here, jim, as well. one thing i will say, just as point of reference, in the united states if you've been vaccinated, you're not getting tested unless you go to something like this. i had to get tested at 96 and 24 hours and again when i landed here. the point is we may see more infections, a higher breakthrough infection rate than we have previously known but i don't know that that means people will be getting sick or seriously ill, which is the big question. >> okay. so how concerned should we be about the effect on the games of the cases reported so far?
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>> reporter: i think the majority of the effect will be more in terms of the impact of the quarantines and the isolation. so the situation is this. someone tests positive, let's say. they're surprised. i'm been vaccinated and i feel fine and they test positive. they're not going into isolation. this will take them out of the games. what is the contact tracing like for them and how many members of the team may potentially go into quarantine as a result of that. or other people they've come in contact with. that is the big impact, jim. it is a public health sort of thing, obviously trying to figure this all out, but also just the logistics of it. we talked to the people trying to put it altogether and here is how they explained it to us. last year these stadiums sat empty. as tokyo 2020 was officially postponed. many people assume the games simply wouldn't happen.
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>> he had no idea what was coming in terms of covid. >> reporter: postponing the olympics again was no longer an option due tonight sports schedule sod it was to a doctor, chair of anyone dependent panel advising the olympic committee on covid-19 counter measures to figure out how to hold the games in 2021. >> was it just going to be inevitable that the games would happen, you just have to figure out how to do it as safely as possible. >> it was possible it could be canceled completely and that was always part of our thinking, that we could only do this if we are satisfied that we could do it safely and securely. >> reporter: while we have seen other sports make it through seasons or tournaments safely with little interruption, the olympics bring a unique challenge. more than 11,000 athletes representing 206 different countries and states and territories will descend on an island nation that is currently fighting to keep the virus at bay. >> what is the risk of doing an
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event like this in the middle of a pandemic to the citizens of japan, citizens that live in that area? >> first realize that coronavirus is going to be an issue for the games. we're trying to maximize the separation between the international visitors and the athletes and the local population. >> this is all why spectators both local and from abroad have already been banned in tokyo. and athletes movements will mostly be confined here to the olympic village. beyond that strategy, mccloskey said the rest comes down to the pillars of public health. >> social distancing and physical distancing, wearing your mask and hand hygiene. these are the fundamental core of what we knew would be the rick of covid during the games. and then we started to layer on top of that the testing strategy that we might have. >> reporter: but that has not stopped the concern from both
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locals an other health experts like epidemiologist michael osterholm. >> this is around the concept of hygiene theater. >> reporter: to him the organizers are missing a fundamental point. >> originally the plans were set up on this being a respiratory droplet, ie, it falls within six feet of of the individual infects but as we know the primary means of transmission is aerosol, things that float in the air like cigarette smoke. >> reporter: so he thinks things like plexiglass miss the mark but masks are even more important. right now the ioc playbook states that a face mask must be worn at all times except when training, competing, eating, drinking, sleeping orring interviews. but there is no specification for what type of mask should be worn. >> we know the cloth mask versus n-95s, it provided no clear
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directions, they should be recommending the n-95 respirators. >> reporter: but they are not required. requiring them could create an uneven playing field. >> we're fairly confident that we would have a vaccine but if we had one it wouldn't be around the world, it wouldn't necessarily be in good supply. >> reporter: still the ioc estimates more than 80% of residents of the olympic village will be vaccinated. but that is still not cleared the metaphorical cloud continuing to hang over the city as the world waits to see how this global event will fair in the face of a pandemic. so about 12% of japanese citizens fully vaccinated. so lower vaccination rates than you see on the side of the screen, the united states for example closer to 50%. and that is been a level of concern here.
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i mean people -- [ inaudible ] as you might imagine. but they did polls and 80% of people polled here in japan said they would have preferred that the olympics not happen here because of what is happening with the pandemic. >> so you bring up the u.s., right. and yes, the u.s. does have a higher vaccination rate and we're seeing out reach in low vaccination areas. tell us about the relevance of what you're going to be watching in tokyo in terms of the delta variant as perhaps a test case, right, for how it might spread here? >> reporter: that is a really good point, jim. so i think there is a couple things that are going to be put to the test. we know the vaccines are pre protective even against the delta variant in terms of preventing people from getting hospitalized and dying. think there are two questions. what about more mild illness, are people getting not sick enough to go to the hospital but still getting symptoms that are significant after vaccination because they are exposed to the
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delta variant. it is a possibility. and also just recently new data shows that if you have an infection as opposed to -- compared to the original event, you may have a thousand times the viral load in your body. now, again, people aren't getting really, really sick but will that make them more contagious and see more transmission events. those are questions that people are going to try to answer here. >> dr. sanjay gupta, so good to have you there. we know you'll be watching closely. thank you very much. dr. fauci is going to join cnn live next hour to weigh in with his answers ahead of the olympics an the effect of the delta variant here in the u.s. please do stay tuned. >> and next hour president biden will speak on the growing economy and reaching a deal finally on infrastructure. still a lot of work to be done. it may sound familiar to you. in congress, ahead of a key procedural vote deadline set for wednesday. manu raju on capitol hill this
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morning. manu, you've been covering this for a while. is a deal going to happen? we talked about a thousand years seems like they have the 60 votes and ten republicans, is that still a reality? >> reporter: we don't know yet because the negotiations have happened all throughout the weekend. remember what they initially agreed on it. was a bare bones outline. the president came out of the white house and then a bipartisan group of senators rallied behind it. that was not the details that we need for legislation to actually pass congress. they've been negotiating the detailed legislative text for weeks and they still don't have a deal about how to pay for this package. those negotiations have been happening throughout the week. the proposal $1.2 billion over eight years in new spending over the next five years. what triering to do is things that would not raise taxes because republicans said that is off the table or not increasing the gas tax which democrats don't want but there are other
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things they've struggled to come no an agreement on. increased irs enforcement. democrats have pushed that. that has been dropped. so as a result, they've been trying to figure out alternative w ways to pay for that package. that is one of two tracks to get joe biden's agenda through. through there is the larger $3.5 trillion proposal that would expand the social safety net central to joe biden's agenda. what chuck schumer wants is an agreement from all 50 democrats by wednesday that they would agreed to move forward with that process. that agreement is still not there yet because a number of moderates are still concerned about the details an they want more details about that. so all sets up a critical few days here, do they get 60 votes to advance the bipartisan deal and could they get all 50 democrats on board. not yet there. jim. >> manu raju, thank you very much. please to be joined by ben cardin. serving as chairman of the mall business committee and the senate transportation and
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infrastructure subcommittee. special involved in the negotiations. senator, thank you so much for taking the time this morning. >> jim, it is good to be with you. >> so, we got a date on wednesday, a vote will be a test of gop support for this. if this wednesday deadline passes, is it time for democrats and the president to move on to reconciliation? >> well, jim, first, it was a very businy weekend. there were a lot of conversations taking place about many of the moving pieces in both the bipartisan infrastructure bill and as far as reconciliation budget agreement. and i think progress is being made. we'll be patient, but understand the clock is ticking. there is only a certain number of days that remain even after an agreement is agreed to on the bipartisan package it will take time on the senate floor. so we have to see the bill shortly. i don't know whether wednesday is in stone. but i could tell you this, we don't have that much more time
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remaining. >> you tried it seems like a thousand different ways to pay for it. it started with raising corporate taxes, taking back some of the cuts that happened in 2017, that went off the table. talk of gas tax and that went off the table and even talk of giving the irs more money to chase down tax cheats and get -- be able to collect existing taxes now republicans saying they don't want that. so what -- what is still on the table to pay for this? >> well, as the bipartisan outline originally pointed out, we do have some unencumbered funds that would be reprogrammed. >> but not enough. >> there is an issue -- >> but not enough for the price tag. >> no, it is a combination of different things. look, that is probably the most difficult challenge we'll be dealing with the offsets. and quite frankly, there is a lot of uncollected taxes that are out there. we had a hearing in our senate finance committee that the
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annual shortfall is close to a trillion dollars a year. so i think we are missing a point by looking at the irs and not giving them the tools they need to fully collect the current tax liabilities. >> do you understand why republicans even some of the moderate ones who were on board for the bipartisan deal don't want to give the irs more resources to go after uncollected taxes? >> for the life of me, i can't figure that one out. i know senator portman well and we've worked on irs reform tod together and we know if they have the tools they could collect more taxes particularly from those using tax gimmicks to avoid the true tax liability. so i think it is unfortunate. i think this is a avenue that if it is not in the bipartisan package, it will be in budget reconciliation. >> with some, you know, frustration, admission of some frustration, i've read and asked questions for weeks, months now about the clock is ticking and
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about negotiations are going on, we're making progress. but we haven't gotten there. so i just want to ask the question again and i know you want to hold out hope for bipartisan agreement at this vote on wednesday. but if that yet one more marker day passes, are you and your colleagues ready to say, okay, we tried, we got to do this alone? go alone, do it through reconciliation, you only need 50 votes plus one. >> we got to get this package done. there really must -- it must move forward. we're still hopeful that will start with a bipartisan infrastructure vote. we think we could get there. we think that helps us in getting the budget reconciliation bill done. so we're going to move on both tracks but at end of the day we have to pass the infrastructure bill. >> okay. and just time wise, do you know beyond this week? >> well, i think we have this work period which takes us through the first week in august, as i said, it is going
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to take time on the senate floor even after an agreement is reached so i don't think wednesday is a magic day that we can't go beyond. i think senator schumer recognized if we don't have deadlines, we're not going to get things done. >> understood. senator ben carden, good to have you on the program. >> thanks, jim. well be sure to watch president biden joining don lemon for an exclusive cnn presidential town hall, airs live on wednesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. we have breaking news to the dow jones industrial average, watching down sharpry there morning close to 800 points. matt eagan joins me now. matt, it looks like this is focused on the delta variant, concerns that perhaps the reopening won't now happen as broadly and quickly as hoped? >> jim, that is exactly right. covid fears are definitely back on wall street as you could see,
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the dow down nearly 800 points, more than 2%. and what we've seen is the investors are getting out of some of the stocks that have done so well because of the reopening. so we've seen airline stocks, jet blue, american airlines, delta all down sharply, carnival cruise and royal caribbean are tumbling and while investors are getting out of risky stocks they're putting money in ultra safe government bonds. that has sent treasury yields down to levels we haven't seen ins -- since earlier this year. we have to remember that markets are up big. they're still up big this year. they're up massively from last year. and that is because of all of this optimism about the economy. in some ways, though, markets have been priced for perfection and the concern is that this delta variant, which has been described as covid on steroids, is going to slow down that recovery. i don't think there is any fears of another recession or anything
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like that, but it may not be as strong as people had hoped. >> on the flip side there is concern about rising inflation and therefore interest rates but if bond prices are going up and yields are going down and that is a lower interest rate future, does it not. >> that is right. there is a bit of a disconnect even because even though it is on the rise we voont sen it play out in the treasury market and to your point though, to whatever except that the delta variant actually slows down the recovery, that would ease those inflation concerns. >> there you go. always good to have explain it. matt eagan, thank you very much. still to come this hour, the mysterious health attacks targeting american diplomats overseas, perhaps even here in the u.s. seems to be getting worse. it is called the havana syndrome. it struck again. we have new cnn reporting coming up. plus escalating violence and
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a worsening human rights situation in belarus. now the opposition leader haves about forced to leave her country in exile leaving behind her husband who is in prison. she'll join me to talk about the threat to her and her husband and what the country is asking from the biden administration.
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diplomats and intelligence officers an other government personnel have reported symptoms of miysterious health incidents similar to havana syndrome. kylie atwood here with more. this is a remarkable number of people, right. and in a place where we were just talking considered relatively safe from this kind of thing, vienna. >> exactly. you talk to u.s. diplomats who are just hearing about the reported potential incidents through the press and they're concerned about where they can safely serve. so this new news demonstrates that the alleged attacks weren't just happening in one concentrated group in havana, cuba, but also now this other group of u.s. diplomats and intelligence officials an other government u.s. officials in vienna who have already apparently been attacked. they're similar to those that came under the havana attack and
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i want to remind those what the symptoms are. we don't know what is causing this but these are folks coming down with extreme nausea, they have vertigo after never having vertigo their whole life and t they have some trouble remembering things and some experienced traumatic brain injury. and so this is serious. and with the new cases about two dozen as we said, is that the biden administration has said this is front and center for them. but this demonstrates that this isn't something in the rearview mirror. this is ongoing. and it is a really tremendous effort. i want to read what the state department spokesperson said about this. in coordination with partners across the u.s. government, we're vigorously investigating reports of possible unexplained health incident as mong the u.s. embassy vienna, community or wherever they are reported. so they're doubling down saying they're looking into this but there is still a lot more questions than there are answers about what the heck is going on
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here and who is doing this. >> and other places. questions about one perhaps on u.s. soil, too. >> right. >> well i feel for these people because the symptoms are horrible. thank you so much for staying on top of it. ahead, there is escalating violence in belarus. the leader of the opposition is in washington now asking the biden administration for help after she had to flee ore country even though she won the presidential election. she joins me live on set next.
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this just into cnn, the u.s. sect of state an tone blinken, vat lana skia is in a series of meetings, she's been forced into exile from her home country for nearly a year despite winning her presidential election and office she wan for after her husband was imprisoned. alexander lukashenko, a friend of vladimir putin, refused to release power. vat lana joins me live in studio. thank you for taking the time. >> thank you for the invitation. >> first i want to begin with your own safety. because you have had to leave
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your own country because of the way this government treats dissidents like yourself. we know that russia has done worse to others if you think of alexei navalny, they attempted to poison him. first question to you, is do you feel your safety is in danger? >> you know, since the day i give documents to election commission, i didn't feel safe. and of course after the hijacking of the air flight, i don't feel as safe as well. but of course i have to think about my safeness. but first of all we have to think about safeness of those people who are inside of our country, inside of belarus fighting for the freedom and safeness and it's very dangerous to be in belarus now. you could be kidnapped at any moment. so we have to take care about ourselves, about those who are in exile, but first of all to think about those who are in prisons and in belarus. >> people at home might not know about tens of thousands of
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belarus have been taken into prison. i want to ask you, because your husband is one of those people who have been detained there. have you had any contact with him, do you know about his safety and his health? >> people in belarus who are in prisons don't have opportunity to communicate with relatives and we have communication only through lawyers, a couple of times a week and through the letters. and people in prisons are really in awful conditions and they suffer a lot at the moment and my husband now is in a so-called trial, and no journalists or relatives could see him there and the lawyer has access to him. but we understand that the people are being sentenced to years of jail just for a position and we have to stop this. not one of these people has to
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be imprisoned. this is our task to release all of them and bring our country to new elections. >> i respect your courage. because you face a real threat and your family faces a real threat. your children, you have a 5 and 11-year-old, they've had to flee the country to lithuania for protection. you'll meet later today with antony blinken, what help do you plan to ask the u.s. for? >> you know, the u.s. is the oldest democracy in the world and the usa is promoting this struggle between autocracy and democracy in the world and so is belarus, on the front line of this struggle, i think that the usa has a moral obligation to be with us. and i ask the usa on the one hand to help civil site to survive. because it is rather difficult,
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it is extremely difficult to struggle inside of the country, people have had to flee the country, our -- is destroyed and also have to work somehow so this support is crucial at the moment. but on the other hand we understand that without pressure on the regime, without political and economic revelation it would be much, much harder to achieve our goal. so don't hesitate in putting sanctions on the the cronies of the regime or the -- of the regime to stop this violence as soon as possible and bring our country to new elections and after to democracy. >> have you been satisfied with the support that the us has offered so far to you and other members of the opposition in belarus? is the u.s. doing enough? >> you know, as far as what is happening in belarus, it is my personal opinion, it is painful.
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9 million people in belarus, i think that nothing is enough at the moment. i'm sure that all of the actions that the usa and european union are doing could be faster, could be stronger. because people in belarus are suffering and they understand that prolonging this adequate answer from other countries only prolong lukashenko into power and suffering and people in belarus want to stop this violence as soon as possible and only joint positions and joint sanctions and joint pressure and joint assistance to civil society will help our electives to be released an joined with her families. >> you believe you won the presidential election. not lukashenko, as he claims an it is the view of usa and the nato allies that this election was stolen by lukashenko.
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do you have hope that a new free and fair election will be held in belarus and when? >> you know, i don't hope. i'm sure that we will succeed in this. because it's impossible to live in the country with a person who is legitimate in the country who is illegitimate to the rest of the world where people hate this person and people are not giving up in the struggle. and i'm sure that we'll reach our goal and new elections that will help us to solve this crisis, economic and humanitarian crisis. when? i don't know when. but our goal is to have the elections this year. and with the help of with other countries with their strong position and strong voice, we'll
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be able to reach this aim sooner. >> yeah. >> and stop suffering for the belarus people. >> the sad fact is that not only belarus but russia and lukashenko and putin are very close. they have done this before. they have imprisoned the opposition, they have attempted worse against the opposition for instance i mentioned navalny others and there are allegations of torture in belarus as well by the authorities. but the sad fact is that often these actions work, right? they work in holding back people like you. i want you to give you a moment to speak to mr. lukashenko, you're both from belarus, how would you ask from him and encourage him to change the way he's leading the country and treating you and other members of opposition? >> first of all, he's not leading the country. he is violating his people, it is not the same. and i don't think that i have
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any worse -- words toward lukashenko, but the other word i have is for some people, i know that the faith keeps you to move forward, for responsibility for those in jail keeps you going on and i ask people don't -- don't let fear settle down in your mind. i know that you have changed, i know that belarusans woke up and together we're going to be able to win. so that's it. >> well listen, i just want to remind folks at home, they may know, you're not a professional politician and you're carrying out the acts of courage because you believe in them and i salute you because i know you face real risks when you do. and i do wish you the best of luck. >> thank you so much. and stand with belarus. >> vet lana skia, we appreciate
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some 60 miles or so above earth. >> i don't know how it is going to change me but i know it is going to to and i'm excited to find out how. >> his flight just nine days after his competitor you might say richard branson took virgin galactic unity on the edge of space. with me neil degrass tyson. so good to have you on. >> good morning. >> and you're the author of the book cosmic theories and who we are and how we got here and where we're going. so where we're going. let me ask you your view, does space tourism like this and frankly high priced space tourism, really high priced, does that encourage or aid in space exploration? >> i first want to say, this should have been happening decades ago. there is no reason why government should have had the monopoly they did on people's access to space for like 50 years. so that is just my first
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comment. second, something not highly discussed is or widely discussed is that these two billionaires are not the first billionaire to go into the space. charles simonyi, one of the microsoft billionaires bought a seat on the russian soyez capital and if you're going to open up a new business sector, go for it. i don't have any problem with that. it doesn't become money-making until it becomes more widely available. becomes a commodity for everybody. so i look forward to that for sure. >> a lot of folks have made the comparison to the early days of commercial flight, down here closer to earth when it was really the province of the super wealthy and only over time and with competition and more volume that you had people like you and me being able to buy tickets. do you think that is a fair comparison, granted this as starting at a higher spot but is that a fair comparison of how
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this might go? >> yeah, the difference is governments didn't lead that advance in the aviation frontier. that was -- except for when we entered warfare. but between wars, it was just people in their garage basically making incremental improvements on their aero plane as this emerged on to the market place. and as they could carry heavier loads for longer distances, you say i don't need to carry your cargo, i could carry people. so then there is this transition that takes place. so right now at a quarter million dollars or whatever jeff bezos is charging, it wouldn't be a market place until that comes down in price and if he has rapid reuse of the vehicle, you amortize over your annual cost, i doan see that being that far away from where we are today. >> i know you've been asked this question before but it is still
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important to ask. is this really space. because it is suborbital, not high enough or fast enough to orbit but going high. i would take a ride in a second if anybody was listening from these comments. but explain to our viewers, is this space travel, sort of space travel? >> well, you just asked me that question and you just want to -- you really want me to go there. for context, if you take a schoolroom globe and ask where is mars, it is a mile away. where is the moon? 30 feet away. where is the international space station? it's three eighths of an inch above the surface. where is jeff bezos going to be? he's going to be half of one-eighth of an inch above the surface. about the thickness of two dimes. >> yeah. >> and so they're official definitions of space, fine. but i'm an astrophysicist and if you're two dimes thickness above
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a schoolroom globe, it is hard for me to embrace that as a space journey. sorry. that is just -- that is just me. so, just but to keep in mind, no, they're not going to orbit, orb sit a whole other kind of spacecraft that you have to design because you have to take it to 17, 18,000 miles an hour, five miles per second and come out of the orbit with heat shield. that is a different designed craft. and for me, just going up and back, i'm going to wait until they have the orbital craft and then better yet i'll wait until they take me somewhere instead of boldly going where hundreds have gone before. >> well i'm going with you. whether you invite me or not or at least i dream of it. neil de grass tyson, thank you so much. thank you so much. there is new guidance on wearing masks in school. the american academy of pediatrics is out with a recommendation that every child
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in western europe has now killed at least 200 people with many, many still missing both in germany and belgium. sam kiley is live in the hard hit town of shult in germany, sam, i'm curious, how many more are still missing because some of the estimates are alarmingly high? >> reporter: yeah, i think exactly you put your finger on an important issue here jim in the original estimate was for some 1300 people in germany alope who were quote/unquote missing. i think the way to see that is ub unaccounted for. and those numbers are down into the low hundreds but there is an expectation that some of the missing individuals sadly and catastrophically may emerge from the disaster deceased because the numbers of people dieing are goes up as the number of people unaccounted for -- [ inaudible ] was a wall of water that came down the rivers.
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you said in your intro, very importantly as a result of flash flooding. i've been in the surrounding hills here and it is two, three four feet deep on a perpendicular slope as this gigantic amount of rain in some areas eight inches, inside of 12 hours was delivered on western germany, jim. >> let's hope more and more people are found alive. sam kiley, good to have you there for us. and thanks to all of you for joining us today. i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour" with kate bolduan will start right after a short break. if you have this... consider adding this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today for your free decision guide. ♪
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hello, i'm kate bolduan. here is what we're watching at this hour. growing concern that the unvaccinated are fuelling resurgence of coronavirus pandemic fears are rattling the stock market. dr. fauci joins me live. deal on brink, the infrastructure deal could collapse. and president biden is speaking this hour. blaming china, the u.s. and allies accusing beijing of hacking microsoft. what is the biden administration going to do about it now? thank you so much for being here. we have breaking news on multiple fronts on the pandemic and that where we must begin


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