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what's driving the rise in infections is the delta variant. this is the most highly transmissible virus we have seen to date. >> in an uphill battle to get vaccines into arms, members of the clergy are getting involved in the push to vaccine. >> if you had not had your vaccination, then you are part of the problem. let's make an attempt at getting back to some normalcy, protecting ourselves and others. blue origin founder jeff
bezos is preparing for a rocket-powered 11-minute excursion to the edge of space. >> i wanted to go on this flight because it's a thing i've wanted to do all my life. it's an adventure. it's a big deal for me. ♪ i'm pamela brown in washington. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world on this sunday. you are live in the cnn newsroom. as more and more places try to emerge from this coronavirus cocoon, the delta variant may have other plans. days before the u.k. lifts restrictions, the prime minister needs to self-isolate. here in the united states, half the country is at risk of catching this powerful strain. >> this variant is so contagious, it's going to infect the majority. most people will get vaccinated or have been previously
vaccinated or they will get this delta variant. it's going to be the most serious virus they get in their lifetime in terms of risk of putting them in the hospital. >> your risk of catching the delta variant is especially high in these 12 states that haven't reached a 40% vaccination rate, alabama, arkansas, georgia, idaho, louisiana, mississippi, north dakota, oklahoma, south carolina, tennessee, west virginia and wyoming. more now on alabama, where about 34% of the population is vaccinated, according to johns hopkins. there are more than 48 ho00 new cases reported last week. now everyone from church pastors to high school cheerleaders are being asked to share the pro-vaccine message. it's still a tough sell, though. >> take it from me. i'm 15 years old. go get the vaccine. >> reporter: the effort to get covid-19 vaccines into arms in alabama is an uphill battle. >> if you had not had your
vaccination, you are part of the problem. >> reporter: pastor cedric has passed out fliers but sometimes he meets resistance to people. >> you can't get your news from social media. >> reporter: but the rampant spread of misinformation on social media is the biggest hurdle, according to health officials. some are buying into false narratives including people under 30, who are the least vaccinated in alabama. birmingham city schools have been hosting vaccine clinics at their high schools, getting the pan band to play and cheerleaders to perform. but some members of this pep squad still need a pep talk. half of these girls told cnn they are too scared to get vaccinated, saying they don't want the actual virus injected into them, which is not how covid-19 vaccines work.
instead the vaccines use a tiny piece of the virus's genetic sequence to send the body a message to send a specialized protein to prompt our immune system to create antibodies to protect against the virus. and just like snapchat, the message disappeared. mistrust looms still. >> i'm not sure. i want to wait a little longer, see how it affects my family and my friends. >> reporter: kennedy brown and her mother both became infected with the coronavirus, an experience powerful enough to motivate them to get their first vaccine shots on saturday. >> most of my friends, their parents don't make them do anything, so it's really their choice. my mom made me come get it. >> reporter: since april 1st, 529 people have died of covid-19 in alabama. more than 96% of them were unvaccinated. around 34% of people in the state are fully vaccinated. since peaking in march and april, the number of doses
administered has been dropping dramatically. now the state has seen another surge, with more than double the new case numbers last week compared to the week before. in mobile, the entire baker high school football team is quarantined. >> i think the variants out and about are kind of poking around. >> reporter: the first baptist church in spanish fort announced it would be postponing events and all in-person services are cancelled for the rest of july. people commented on the post, asking for prayers for loved ones who have gotten covid-19. >> i got a call from my father about my uncle who did not get the vaccine. guess what? he's in the hospital now. >> reporter: anthony gardener is ceo of alabama medical services and even he captn't convince al his family to get vaccinated. unfortunately only about 10 people have come through here today. it's an example of the ongoing
challenge that health providers and local leaders, clergy and schools are having in convincing the larger community to get vaccinated. pamela. >> thanks to natasha chen. the partisan divide on vaccines, namely republican hesitancy based on polling and what we know, is based on misinformation and distrust in large part. covid as identity politics may be most striking in this kaiser poll on the level of trust for sources of vaccine information. the vast majority of both democrats and republicans trust their doctors, but gop supporters have little faith in other information sources. in fact, fewer than half trust the cdc or their state government. only 30% trust dr. anthony fauci and even fewer believe in president biden. our next guest is among 13 members of the house gop doctors caucus who took part in this psa that puts aside politics to
debunk misinformation and tout the sicience and benefits of getting vaccinated. congressman buddy carter of georgia joins me from savannah. you're a pharmacist and you represent one of the states that has one of the lower vaccination rates. why did you and your colleagues in the medical field feel it was so important to put out this message even though many republicans may not be open to it. >> well, vaccines are the single most life saving innovation in the history of medicine. thanks to operation warp speed, we have a number of vaccines to come on the market in less than a year. i encourage people to get the vaccine, because it is safe and effective. however, i do not think we should be mandating it. this is a decision that should be made by individuals in consultation with their doctor and their families. i believe in the vaccine and i believe it's safe and effective, so much so that as a health care professional and a member of the doctors caucus in congress, i myself went through the clinical
trials. i c to set a good example. i'm glad i did. i do believe it is safe and effective. however, i have to stop short of saying it should be mandated. this is a decision that should be made by people in consultation with their physicians and with their family members. >> right now the only place it's being mandated is in private companies that choose to do so. but unfortunately, this has become this partisan issue. this recent poll that we just referenced earlier, this kaiser family foundation poll, shows that 23% of republicans would definitely not receive a vaccine compared to 2% of democrats. why do you think so many republicans are vaccine hesitant even though science shows the vaccine is safe? >> well, first of all, we get caught up in this about the number of republicans, number of democrats. it should be how many americans are not getting vaccinated and
we should do everything we can to encourage them to get vaccinated, because, listen, i'd rather have the vaccine than the virus. there's no question about that. these vaccines are safe and effective and i would encourage people to get them ea. it would be un-american to mandate it. it would be like big brother making us have these vaccines. >> who's talking about mandating it? the white house isn't mandating the vaccines. there's no discussion of that. okay. just want to make sure. >> sure. >> but i need to ask you, because you heard, i'm sure, president biden when asked what role does facebook play with all this, what is your message? he said, they're killing people. how much do you think right wing news outlets that suggest it may not be safe or the document is we -- the government is
weaponizing it to kill people. >> it shows to me the big tick is answering to the socialist left. they should not be doing that. we're a country where the first amendment is the most important amendment that we have and the most important right that we have. yes, there is misinformation out there. we need to make sure we get that cleared up. however, keep in mind early on the big tech, the platforms were actually suppressing the idea, the possibility of the origin of this vaccine. now we know not only is it possible, not only is it probably, but it did indeed originate in the virology labs in wuhan. >> we don't know that. we don't know that, congressman. >> that's what they're trying to suppress. >> we do not know that. my reporting is that senior pap biden officials who say no one knows whether it emerged from a
lab or from an animal to a human. going back to my question, do you think that misinformation on right wing media and social media sites, that it's killing people? >> the misinformation needs to be straightened out, but at the same time we can't be dictating to these platforms what is misinformation and what is not misinformation. that is something that you get into the first amendment and the suppression of free speech. that is something that the biden administration is trying to do that they should not be trying to do. what is misinformation? that's in the eyes of the beholder. i encourage everyone to get the vaccine. i think it's safe and ervffecti. as a health care professional, i think everyone should do it. but i'm not going to be suppressing first amendment rights to make sure it happens. we have to get the information out there that it is safe and effective, that i'd rather have the vaccine than the virus and
we need people to get the vaccine. >> i think it's really important you are using your position as someone with a medical background to speak out. this is you attending a gop event to call for the firing of dr. fauci. other republicans like marjorie taylor green are telling people to not get the vaccine. do you think that mixed messaging adds to the confusion? >> you want to talk about misinformation. keep in mind that vice president harris is the one who said she would never take a vaccine that originated under the trump administration. >> i'm talking about you with your colleagues right there. that's what i'm asking about. >> i understand that. >> does that give mixed messages. we talked about kamala harris and what she said back then a lot. this is what i'm focused on now. >> understood. certainly representative green has every right to her opinion. i respect her opinion. i don't agree with it.
i would rather fhave the vaccin than the virus. but it should be a decision made by individuals after consultation with their family and their physicians. >> okay. i want to go to what president trump -- he released a statement today, the former president trump, seeming to defend the mistrust we're talking about here. here's what he said. people that are refusing to take the vaccine because they don't trust the administration, the election results or the fake news, which is refusing to tell you the truth. we should note you did vote toove to overturn the results of the presidential election, do you agree with trump? a i i think the point the president was trying to get across is there's so much mistrust out there, not just in the vaccines or the election process, but in the media as a whole. that's the point he's trying to make. it's not that, oh, if you didn't trust the election results, then
you shouldn't trust the vaccine. no, that's not it at all. i think the greater point that's trying to be made here is the mistrust and misinformation we're getting from the media. that's the key here. >> on the vaccines, do you think people should be listening to news hosts and to politicians who don't have a medical background or should they listen to medical professionals, pharmacists like yourself, on whether they should take the vaccine? >> no question about it. health care in general depends on having confidence in your providers. that is the key. that's why if you like your doctor, if you like your insurance, you can keep it, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. that's why that's so important. confidence in your health care provider, that's half of the victory, making sure you're confident this is going to work. if you go into something thinking it's not going to work,
it's probably not going to work. >> exactly. so you're saying basically the source of information is very important, where people get their information. i want to apply that on the election. do you think people should listen to politicians or the nearly 100 judges across the political spectrum, the republican and democratic election officials that certified the election and administration official whs who agree there's no evidence of widespread fraud in the election? >> you're getting into apples and oranges. there's a danger you're going to come up with bananas. to your point, look, i've always said that the problem in the election certification was that changes in these states, in the state of georgia and arizona and michigan were made by the executive branch and the judicial branch and not by the legislative branch they should have been made by. the recent ruling in the arizona
case is a perfect example of where even president carter at one time said that the biggest problem, the biggest potential for cheating in elections is through absentee ballots. even he said that. that was part of the reasoning for the arizona decision there. >> if you're going to apply that principle, then that same principle would have to apply in the other states that trump won, north carolina, texas, ohio. if you look at the voter fraud and so forth and the amount of it, if you look at that, it's less than .001%, meaning that the election itself from all we know was like 99.99% successful with eligible voters having their voices heard through their vote. that's pretty good, is it not? >> what i know is this, is that the changes made to the election
process in the state of georgia were made by the executive branch without the approval of the legislative branch. our constitution is perfectly clear that it should be made by the legislative branch. that's why i applaud the georgia state legislature for the election integrity act that makes voting easier and cheating harder. what happened in arizona, what happened in pennsylvania, those were made by the judicial branch, not by the legislative branch. i think that's the whole key here. >> okay. i'm not going to sit here with you and go into the weeds on all this,ing but of course the law in georgia does give the secretary of state leeway. you argue that he shouldn't have signed the memorandum and so forth. again, you're saying that the bottom line here is that all these judges, all of these election administration officials, republican, democrat, they all said this election was safe and secure. so should people listen to that versus politicians who may have an interest in staying in power? >> people have the right to
listen to who they want to listen to. you know, you're trying to demonize politicians here. >> i'm not trying to demonize politicians. i'm not. i'm saying as sources of information on important issues like the vaccine, you said they should listen to their doctors. >> absolutely. there's no question about that. they should listen to their doctors. again i think we're getting to apples and oranges here. the point of objecting to the election integrity to the election certification was that the changes that were made led to the potential for cheating in the state of georgia. the changes that were made were not made by the legislative branch, as our constitutions says they should be. the changes that were made were made by the judicial branch and the executive branches. that's not the way our constitution has us. >> we could talk a lot more about this, but you can't divorce from the context as
well. when you voted to decertify those results in the two states, that was against the backdrop of the sitting president saying the election was stolen, that the people's voices weren't counting. so it was against that backdrop, which is different. also, doesn't it raise into question all the republicans who won in these states? does not not call into question whether you won legitimately then based on that logic? >> and i would present to you if that's the case, why are we even doing the certification in congress. >> it's basically pro forma. >> if i had to do it over 100 times again, i'd do it the same way, because the people of the state of georgia felt like there was cheating and results were not correct. so i stand by my decision. if i had to do it over again, i'd do it just the way i did it. >> okay. congressman buddy carter, thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me.
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fans and players scrambline ing during a game at nationals park stadium in wan washington, d.c. cnn journalists inside the stadium reported hearing multiple loud bangs. >> we were not on the lower level. we were just in the middle section so we could look down. we saw people beginning to duck and then run for the gates. we had heard thunder during the night, so we weren't sure if it was thunder. now we know it was actually gunshots. what we saw was a crowd in full panic. on the first baseline, that's the nationals' side,people ran over the fence onto the field into the dugout because they were trying to escape whatever they thought might be out there. they ran into the tunnel to get away. on the third base side, that's where the gunshots were heard from. that was the san diego padres side. people went both out the gate,
this gate that we are at right now, the center field gate, and also in and around the padres' dugout the same way. >> reporter: the nationals were playing the padres when the shooting began. >> the news report coming out from the security guards is that there was a victim shot outside the stadium. he ran into the stadium covered in blood, which freaked out a lot of individuals, which caused a lot of the chaos and panic. people rushed back into their seats because they didn't know what was happening. >> reporter: play was interrupted in the bottom of the sixth inning. a message on the scoreboard initially told fans to remain inside the baseball park, but it was updated later to say it was safe for fans to leave the stadium. at a press conference saturday night, officials tried to reassure the public. >> we believe this was an isolated incident, again, had nothing to do with the game itself. it is safe for folks to come
down here for tomorrow night's game. >> reporter: two people wounded in the shooting were associated with a recovered vehicle and are now in the hospital being questioned by police. it's unclear what their exact involvement was in the incident. an official said those individuals were known to law enforcement. the fan who was shot, a female, is expected to recover. san diego padres star fernando tatiz thanked everyone that helped during the shooting outside the park. he said on twitter, hope everyone is safe, keep the prayers up, thank you everyone that helped on the front line. god bless. the nationals were able to complete their game with the padres. they are now onto game three. they're almost wrapped up with that. a lot of people i spoke to were excited and enthusiastic saying they're not going to let this isolated incident get in the way
of having a good time. there is a new normal. as you mentioned, d.c. police presence has been increased. we just got this statement from mayor muriel bowser as well as the nationals team. we stand together against senseless acts of gun violence in the city. it is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. d.c. officials offering $10,000 for any information leading to an arrest when it comes to this shooting. pam? overnight in los angeles a new mask mandate went into effect after a 500% jump in covid-19 cases. when we come back i'll speak to the sheriff. not touching is still touching protection. adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria. detergent alone, can't. lysol. what it takes to protect.
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there's a new indoor mask mandate in l.a. county. in response to that, the top law enforcement official in the county sheriff alex via knew ava said this. forcing those who got the vaccine to wear masks indoors is not backed by science. l.a. county will not extend our limited sources and ask for compliance. l.a. county has seen a 500% jump in covid cases since california fully reopened on june 15th. sheriff alex villanueva joins me now.
thanks for being with us. >> you got it, pamela. >> you say that forcing the vaccinated and those who already contracted covid-19 to wear masks indoors is not backed by science. why are you choosing to go against public health guidance from medical professionals in your county? >> one, the person who issued this was not a medical professional. it's the director of the department of public health. she's not a medical doctor nor is she an epidemiologists. these are not guidelines consistent with the cdc. number three, we want to reward good behavior. we want to incentivize people to get vaccinated, but if we're telling people to get vaccinated but you still got to wear a mask is not going to help us get that 60% become that 70 or 80%, not at all. all we're doing is breeding conflict, which is not going to further our goals. >> i interviewed who you just
mentioned. she said this is about the unvaccinated, not the vaccinated. it is true that the cdc said fully vaccinated people can go without masks indoors, but it does add an exception where it's required by federal, state, local laws and businesses. what do you say to critics who say you're a sheriff, not a scientist. why are you the win tone to cal shots here? >> i have a raging problem with homelessness. we're the epicenter of the nation's homeless crisis. i have homicide, violence up 60%. i have out of control grows in the high desert and illegal dispensaries in the basin. those three things representative existential threats. at the same time i'm being defunded by the board of supervisors, so what few re resources i have available are going to be devoted to those threats.
we're not going to stretch ourselves even further than we already are. we have to have some common sense. >> you're saying this is a resource issue. i just want to go back to what we were talking about here. how much is this about, for you, calling attention to a lack of funding for your department and the need for more resources or actually, you know, caring about whether this is backed by science? >> remember, i lost 145 million last year. this year i'm losing an additional 143 million. i had 1400 positions removed by the ceo's office. the job didn't go away. i just lost the deputies to get the job done. on the practical side, enforcement, i have a district attorney who has not filed 5,932
cases that are criminal cases, let alone a health order case. he's not going to file a single one. again, it does not make sense. from common sense and practical purpose, we have neither the resources, neither the prosecutorial side of the equation is not going to do anything with it. so we are not going to put personnel into these conflicts unnecessarily. >> will you comply with the mask mandate? >> as a vaccinated person, i'll go with whatever the establishment wants. i'm fine with that. >> so you're not going to comply by the l.a. county mask mandate, you'll only comply depending on what the establishment wants, is that what you're saying? >> obviously when i'm working, all of my employees will go by the guidelines of the county and the public health officers. >> when i interviewed the health official who imposed this mask
mandate you mentioned earlier, a lot of this was about the unvaccinated, including children, children that can't get vaccinated yet. as we've seen, there is a big explosion of cases there in l.a. county. do you see this also -- i mean, couldn't you argue that enforcing a mask mandate is part of your role in protecting these kids, sheriff? >> you may be trying to tug at heart strings, but your argument falls apart when 99% of everyone in the hospital right now in the e.r.s and the icus are the unvaccinated. >> i'm just looking at the facts here that kids under the age of 12 can't get vaccinated. >> that's something -- >> it's about protecting them as well. >> well, just like any population is vulnerable, you've got to pick and choose where you're going to expose yourself. if kids under 12 are not vaccinated, then their parents need to pick and choose exactly
where they're going to expose them plublicly. that's up to the family member to understand and make those risk assessments on an individual basis. the department as a whole will comply when we're working, of course. we're going to rely on voluntary compliance of each business owner. ultimately it's backfiring on us, because we're creating more resentment, more anger and more mistrust. the county dph did not consult with law enforcement, the board of supervisors. they did this all on their own without considering the consequences and our ability to enforce it. they just assume they're going to come down from the mountain like moses with the tab lets and say this is the law of the land, deal with it. >> thanks so much for being on the show. >> you got it, pamela.
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science. dr. ranney, great to see you. can you respond to what you heard from sheriff villanueva? >> talking to my colleagues whop live in l.a., they say there's virtually no one masked in public settings right now. only about half of folks in l.a. are vaccinated. that means a lot of people who aren't vaccinating are going unmasked as well. we're talking about putting masks back on faces. we know that masks stop transmission of covid. if i were running the department of health, i sure would think about putting a mask mandate back in place to help slow the spread of this super transmissible delta variant until i can get more vaccined in arms. if i trusted that everyone who was unvaccinated was wearing a
mask, i might not need it. this is backed by science and is a worthwhile thing to do. >> that sums it up right there, from a doctor dealing with covid day in and day out in the e.r. i also want to talk about something that the republican congressman from georgia buddy carter said to me earlier in the show. he's a pharmacist. he thinks people should take the vaccine. he also made clear he believes taking the vaccine is a personal choice. i want to remind our viewers of what dr. fauci said yesterday. let's listen. >> if we had had the pushback for vaccines the way we're seeing on certain media, i don't think it would have been possible at all to not only eradicate smallpox. we probably would have still smallpox and polio in this country if we had the kind of false information that's being spread now. if we had that back decades ago,
i would be certain that we'd still have polio in this country. >> so how much do those personal choices of not taking the vaccine impact the rest of us in lo he light of that? >> just look at arkansas and missouri to see how much it impacts the rest of us. these vaccines are great, but not 100% effective. as cases rise, particularly this delta variant, which is so much more transmissible, it puts at risk not just those who are unvaccinated but also those who have gotten both doses of the vaccine and are immuno suppressed or have other illnesses or chronic conditions. all that said, right now it is up to individual businesses, employers or schools to make that decision whether or not to mandate a vaccine. for now, the congressman is right, it is a personal choice. i just hope that people make the choice that protected not just themselves but also their friends and family. >> that's key.
it's not just about what's best for your personally. it's about what's best for others. i want to look at canada. canada, as we know, also has social media. it has less access to vaccines. yet it is surpassing the u.s. our correspondent there said the only difference there is it's not as politically divisive. >> i agree completely. in the e.r. i talk to patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated. the things they tell me accord with some of their other political beliefs. they're hearing things on social media or from friends in family that go in a certain direction, that make it feel like it's part of who they are as a person, when in fact it should be driven by science, not by politics. this virus doesn't care if you're a republican or a democrat. it's going to get you sick
either way if you're not vaccinated and happen to be in contact with it. >> i think it also krcrystalliz how politically divided this country is. you look at polio and measles and how this country came together to eradicate that and look at where we are now. i want to ask yowu a personal question that i've noticed. as we return to the office and social gatherings, the question is are handshakes and hugs acceptable? i personally have been in some really awkward positions. what should we do? >> i always say ask permission. if you and the other person are both vaccinated, i'm giving people hugs and handshakes at this point, but i ask first. some people are not comfortable with that, and that's okay too. think of it as yet another level of consent in society right now. >> okay. it's funny, i just have this
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ed. t-2 days and counting until the next launch in the billionaire space race. jeff bezos will rocket to the edge of space and will be back on tuesday with his company blue origin. also on board will be 18-year-old oliver daemon and wally funk. the youngest and the oldest people ever to travel into space. so what else sets the mission apart? let's bring in our analyst and retired astronaut. dottie sits on the board of the challenger learning center which has received money from the blue origins club for the future.
we know this isn't the first time a billionaire traveled to space. we just covered this. what makes this trip different from richard branson's trip to space? >> it is a little different way to get there. it is a single stage rocket all the way up. instead of flying for several minutes on board a carrier aircraft, as they did in the case of sir richard branson. it will be a lot quicker. it took a long time to get to it altitude. 40,000, 50,000 feet before it got into space. in this case, the rocket begins firing on the ground. takes them up to space. they see the curvature of the earth, the sky gets black and then down they come. 11 minutes. >> so what goes through your mind as you see these back to back billionaire space trips? does this make you excited about the future of space travel? >> absolutely.
i was thinking about the journey that even of the astronauts have. even though these are different vehicles, there will be a unique experience for each person. and the stories that they will go on to tell. i would love to hear their perspectives as well. you know, i have my own story but i love to hear from other astronauts, what inspired them in the beginning that led them on this journey to the trip that they're taking. the work that they've put in. and for the perspective of an 18-year-old and an 82-year-old. for wally funk, just a wonderful story, too, of a woman who had this shot but then it didn't happen when she was younger. and now she's going to get it. i can't wait to hear these stories. >> and i want to know what would you say to those watching right now. oh, this is jeff bezos' dream of he has billions of dollars. he's going to space.
but there are children here on earth who are starving and there's a pandemic going on and children dying of cancer and so forth. all these problems here on earth. why does this matter? why should we be paying attention to it? what would you say, dottie? >> yeah. there are definitely problems here on earth. i think when you understand what your earth is, i don't think you can not be changed by it. so as you say jeff bezos did donate to the challenger learning center and other nonprofits. people are definitely aware of the things they want to make a difference with. i think when anyone sees their home planet, when they see the thin atmosphere, the deep dark know of space and they know only things that keep us alive are back there on earth, you cannot help but be changed. our problems are big. it isn't up to just one person to solve they will. it really does take team world
of the world. so i think this will give the opportunity to think about what changes they want to make on their home planet. >> i think that's such an important point. everyone we've heard from who has been to space, they said it was a transform i have the experience. they had a different philosophy toward life. thank you both. we'll be looking to the launch in a couple days. >> absolutely. rising coronavirus cases across the country are once again putting tremendous pressure on hospitals and hot spots. when we come back, i'll speak to an arkansas medical official. he warns hospitals are getting close to their limit on staff and beds. we'll be right back. not touching is still touching protection. adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria. detergent alone, can't. lysol. what it takes to protect.
the olympics games are just days away but already some of the world's best athletes are sitting this one out. positive covid tests inside the olympic village. plus, catastrophic flooding across europe. tens of thousands forced to flee. tonight hundreds are missing. and the brink of war. new insight about how close the united states could have been to an all-out battle with iran during the final days of the trump administration. i'm pamela brown in washington. welcome to our v