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♪ it's all tied up, the bucks rally past the suns in a nail-biter to even the nba finals at two a piece. >> good morning, john. milwaukee just needs to prove now they can take this show on the road. they've proven they can play with their backs against the wall and after dropping the first two games of the series in phoenix, they are right back in the mix now battling on their home court to even things up in a rugged affair which led to a tense fourth quarter. chris middleton came to play in game four. middleton scoring in a playoff career high 40 including 10 down the stretch. as dominant as he was in the later half of the fourth quarter, the most dramatic play of the night belongs to the team giannis who delivered one of the greatest plays in nba finals history, a huge block to shift the momentum in the bucks'
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favor. milwaukee won by six. milwaukee needs to get a win in phoenix. tremendous night for women's hoops, too in preparation for the tokyo olympics. facing the wnba all stars last night. a treat for fans who normally wouldn't get this game in an olympic year. and dallas guard led the way for the all stars hitting five threes and put up a game high of 26 points on the way to mvp honors. the all stars won by eight. sue bird summed it up afterwards that team usa learned they aren't a team quite yet. team usa seeking historic seventh-straight gold medal when they begin their olympic campaign against nigeria on july 27th. "new day" continues right now.
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♪ welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it is thursday, july 15th. we're beginning with explosive revelations about just how close american democracy came to the edge. jaw-dropping excerpts from a new book about the aftermath of the 2020 election. >> so the excerpts obtained by cnn are from the upcoming book "i alone can fix it" by two washington post reporters. among the revelations, america's top generals feared then president trump would attempt a coup after the election. and they planned ways to stop him. this is really the first time in modern u.s. history there was this much potential for a showdown between the commander in chief and the military. >> it's very stunning here. general mark milley and the other joints chief plotted mass resignations, one by one, rather than carry out orders from trump that they considered to be illegal. something of a reverse saturday night massacre and according to the book, general milley also
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viewed truch as an authoritarian leader and trump's big lie milley told his aides it was, quote, the gospel of the furor. >> he generally confronted the white house chief of staff during an army/navy football game and grilled mark meadows about whether trump would fire the fbi and cia directors and claims milley and mike pompeo privately met. pompeo telling milley, quote, crazies are taking over. that is an account that pompeo now denies. >> this book describes tense moments that played out during january 6th and in its aftermath, including liz cheney telling jim jordan during the capitol riot, quote, you f'ing did this and house speaker pelosi's fears that trump would use a nuclear weapon during his final days in office. the book describes a private conversation that she had with general milley and he reassured pelosi that the military would not carry out an order that was illegal. >> and finally, the book talks about trump's disdain for angela
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merkel during an oval office meeting about nato and germany. trump refers to the german chancellor as, quote, that bitch merkel. >> joining us now jaymie again gal. you got the excerpts of this book. and the perhaps most alarming part of this is general milley worried that donald trump could attempt a coup and how we learn about what was going on behind the scenes to make sure that didn't happen. >> absolutely. what we learn is that after the election general milley is, quote, shaken because he is really afraid that trump and his allies may attempt a coup. and they write in the book, they're quoting milley here. quote, they may try but they're not going to f'ing succeed, he told him, this is to senior
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aides. you can't do this without the military. you can't do this without the cia and the fbi. we are the guys with the guns. just for context, general milley is quoted extensively through this book. let's remember, his reputation took a hit when he posed with president trump at lafayette park. so there's no question that i'm sure he apologized for that. he wants to help his reputation, but this goes way beyond this. he is putting himself on the line, going public with this. >> general clark, i don't want people to lose sight of the historic nature of what is being reported here. you have the chairman of the joint chiefs taking evasive action in a way, in discussions because he's concerned about a military coup. now, civilian control of the
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military is a bedrock of u.s. democracy. to have the u.s. joint chief so concerned how does this strike you? >> it strikes me that general milley was on the inside. he saw the character of the president. he heard the discussions of people around the president. he saw historically grounded. he is experienced. this was his read of it. that there was significant concern. so i think, you know, on the one hand it's a very shocking story. on the other hand, it's a very reassuring story because it reassures the american people we have people in government service who are dedicated to put their lives on the line and stand up to their oath which is their loyalty to the constitution. >> kaitlyn, in this book, milliwas essentially -- not essentially, he was comparing donald trump to hitler. >> which is not something if you know milley and reported on him as i have, this is not language
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that he uses. he doesn't gjust speak off the cuff. that's what he does here at length. and i think this is something that to keep in mind, this is not just about january 6th. this is an issue that was months in the making for milley and a position he was put in after jaynjay jaymy noted he attended that photo op after they forcefully cleared peaceful protesters from the area. so it was in that area and in that moment when those george floyd protests were happening around the country some of them turning into riots that president trump was talking about sending the military into the streets. and that is where this fear, i think, about what the president wanted to do, the former president now when it came to the military was how that really started for milley and where those concerns started to happen. i think it was something that built up over time, months and months. it happened as they mention in the book where there were concerns about the president wanting to fire then cia
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director gina haspel. that was something real. i remember when that was happening. and the plan was actually to fire her deputy and force her to resign essentially. that is how detailed it got. and it became so close that the president was saying let's do it. i've made the decision. have the deputy fired. and then later pulling it back. you can see why these concerns were so great for milley because these were things that were actually happening. it was a concurrence of multiple events that really drove him to the comments that he's now making today. >> jamie, there will be trump supporters saying how could there be a coup, he was president at the time. no what milley is talking about here is trump not recognizing the results of the election. adolph hitler in 1933 used the burning as an excuse to suspend habeas corpus and take over the entire apparatus of the government, the military. so that's what milley is talking about here and he was genuinely scared and you have more reporting on how worried he was about the inauguration itself.
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>> just to be clear, general milley believes in civilian authority. he was walking a fine line here. so, after january 6th, he is now helping to prepare security for the inauguration. and we all know that washington was on lockdown. but what the book shows is behind the scenes he's at a meeting with other law enforcement and security officials and here is what he says to them. here is the deal, guys. these guys are nazis. they're proud boys. these are the same people we fought in world war ii. everyone in this room whether you're a cop, whether you're a soldier, we're going to stop these guys to make sure we have a peaceful transfer of power. we're going to put a ring of steal around this city and the nazis aren't getting in. again, for someone like general milley, a student of history, to
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make that comparison is stunning and this context, donald trump is already teasing about running in 2024. general milley knew this would come out now. he wanted it to come out now. >> i wonder, general, you had the military -- things were so off the rails from milley's perspective that he was sitting in as a guardrail and preparing essentially to act as what any normal civilian administration would act as, which donald trump perhaps wasn't going to was his fear. how -- what does that tell you about how the constitution of the military held even as it was potentially acting in a very extraordinary manner? >> well, i think it's a reassuring story because of general milley and the other senior leaders in the armed forces, they're well educated, they're well read, they're experienced, they're connected
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with a lot of people in washington. now, remember, general milley is not the commander of the armed forces. he is legally the adviser to the president and to the congress and to the secretary of defense and the chain of command goes from the president through the secretary of defense. so, i think mark esper was mentioned in that book from what i've read about the excerpts also. so, general milley is acting as a leader. he's not someone who is in command. he is a leader. he is orchestrating. he is sharing perspectives. he is doing what a good leader would do. he's concerned. he's taken an oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. and he's concerned that the president of the united states would become an enemy of the constitution. >> jamie, very quickly, to that point, i think that is one of milley's fears is that esper was gone, bill barr people don't like to hear this on the left, some people saw bill barr as a guardrail and general milley saw
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bill barr as a guardrail, he was gone. milley felt like he was on an island here. >> absolutely. there were meetings he had with white house chief of staff, mark meadows, with then secretary of state mike pompeo in which he would do daily check-ins. and the book talks about those meetings and reports that milley was also using those meetings with meadows and pompeo to keep tabs on the president. he was trying to get a daily read on what was going on. >> so afraid he was that things were going out of bounds. jamie, thank you so much. general clark, kaitlyn, thank you for being with us. stand by for us. there are more revelations including what liz cheney said to jim jordan, the congressman, during the insurrection. and what general milley told speaker nancy pelosi over her fears that trump might fire nuclear weapons in his final
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accidental firing of nuclear weapons. how can you guarantee me, pelosi asked? ma'am, there's a process, he said. we will only follow legal orders. we'll only do things that are legal, ethical and moral. jamie, the point that you've been making that mark milley knew this was going to get out. clearly excerpts from a book he knew were going to be made public right now. why does milley want everyone to see this now? >> so i don't know why. i haven't spoken to him, but i would say two things. 2024 is already happening. and i think he wanted to be clear and public about how dangerous he thought donald trump was in that context. he also, i would say, is sending a message to the troops. he is still chairman of the joint chiefs. a lot of members of the military voted for donald trump. and i think he's sending them a
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signal. >> yeah. there's certainly a schism especially between the rank and file and the officer corp. that donald trump was trying to create. and you see milley circle the wagons and send that signal. i also want to point out, jamie, that the book reveals a liz cheney moment where the wyoming congress woman reportedly told general milley about a confrontation she had with jim jordan, ohio congressman on the hill the day after the insurrection. tell us about that. >> i can confirm that that conversation happened after i read it in the book. so this is a conversation on january 7th. general milley and liz cheney are friends. they're close. they're having a phone call and general milley says to liz cheney, how are you doing? and liz cheney lets loose about jim jordan, the head of the freedom caucus and trump
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supporter. and she says, quote, that f'ing guy jim jordan, that son of a bitch, cheney said, while these maniacs are going through the place, i'm standing in the aisle. and he said, we need to get the ladies away from the aisle. let me help you. i smacked his hand away and told him, get away from me. you f'ing did this. i don't think liz cheney needed or wanted jim jordan's help at that moment. >> no, but the point that you did this is an interesting and important point to be making right now, especially because so many people running this show for the republicans in congress, you know, were very much in touch and in tune with the former president. >> and the thing is, a lot of those allies of the president, who are still in congress, the former president, they did not believe what he was saying act the election, yet they were helping him publicly push it whether that was not condemning what he was saying or it was
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actually pushing it and repeating those lies about the election, casting doubt on the fact that biden had won the presidency. and the thing with jim jordan is he is a smart person. and he is an ally of the president who sticks very closely to him publicly, but he was one of several people who on january 6th we were told was in touch with the white house and other aides calling them as this was going on on capitol hill saying, what is the president doing? he has got to say something about this when they were essentially begging the former president to put out a statement telling people to leave the capitol, to go home, to stop what they were doing. and so, jim jordan is not someone who is just completely oblivious to what was happening. but i think what happened on january 6th and changed very quickly after we know because everyone is trying to whitewash what happened, is even those people who played a role in this, the day of realized holy crap, like, this is a real situation. and look what this has led to. so i think that moment, that outburst from liz cheney towards jim jordan is not that surprising.
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but i think that was something that it was kind of this moment of realization for so many of the president's allies who were there that day of just how real and the consequences of what they had been saying for several weeks. >> kaitlan -- go on, jaime. >> from liz cheney's perspective, jim jordan was perpetuating the big lie. he was on the phone with the president between election day and january 6th, if not everyday, several times a week. and so, her saying you did this is really about that he perpetuated the big lie that led to january 6th. >> kaitlan, you mentioned the whitewashing. i think that's why, look, some of these things that we're learning from this book confirm what we knew or what we suspected. and yet, i think it really stands out the narrative arc that this book shows us because of that whitewashing of what
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happened in january -- on january 6th and certainly what proceeded it. >> and i think with milley, something that's really important to keep in mind here is that he is not someone who is always at odds with the former president. when he had first selected him as the chairman of the joints chief of staff, people would often go to milley to get to trump on something because he knew how to connect with them they felt like in meetings. so see him take a drastic turn given the events and now that this is all becoming public, i think you have to think of this in the context that trump is not just some long gone past politician and president and poses no threat to the public. he is someone who is actively talking about running for re-election. he has a very powerful grip on the republican party and so that is the context i think that people have to read this book. >> he is the front-runner for the republican nomination, this matters for now not just for history and we continuously, continually repeatedly learn here how dangerous so many people around him thought he was
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who cooperated with him, who tried to privately stop him, who tried to publicly stop him. i think that's the big picture here. it's so important. >> jamie and kaitlan, thank you for your insights here. appreciate it. just ahead, the race to vaccinate americans as this delta variant of coronavirus spreads. the former director of the cdc will join us live. and child tax credits being paid out starting today. who is getting them and how could they help? your skin isn't just skin, it's a beautiful reflection of everything you've been through. that's why dove renews your skin's ceramides and strengthens it against dryness for softer, smoother skin you can lovingly embrace. renew the love for your skin with dove body wash. the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. it's the most comfortable, body-sensing, automatically-responding, energy-building, dually-adjustable, dad-powering, wellness-boosting,
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♪ the fight against covid-19 is now a race between vaccines and variants. 47 states are reporting an uptick in new cases compared to the previous week and the delta variant is driving this surge.
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patients are now younger and virtually all of them are unvaccinated. more than 99% of covid deaths in the country right now are unvaccinated americans. and vaccination rates have plunged as anti-vax propaganda sweeps parts of the country and takes hold. joining us now is the former cdc director and former new york city health commissioner dr. tom freedman. sir, thank you so much for being with us. i want to talk a little bit more about this delta variant. i think it's essential that people understand just how much more transmissible this is. what about two to three times the initial strain of coronavirus. what makes it so transmissible? >> the delta strain is both dominant and deadly. and what we've seen around the world and in the u.s. now is increases even in places that have high vaccination rates primarily among unvaccinated people. but the good news is that the vaccines we're using in this
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country work very well against delta, particularly to prevent severe illness and death. the delta variant appears to be about twice or even more than twice as infectious as other strains. there are a few theories for why that is so. not definitive, but basically you have more virus and in a way it's stickier. it gets into your lungs and invades the lung cells more effectively. so if you are not vaccinated already, please get vaccinated soon because the sooner you're vaccinated, the sooner you'll be protected against this and other strains. >> you said that if the delta variant is not controlled it will beat us. what does that look like? this variant beating us. >> unfortunately we're going to see increases as has already begun. first in cases, then in hospitalizations and then in deaths. those increases will be largest in the communities with lowest
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vaccination rates. because vaccination is our way to defeat delta. that's why it's so important that we get more people vaccinated as soon as possible. although no vaccine is 100% effective, it's extraordinarily rare to have someone get severely ill after vaccination even if they do have the misfortune of getting infected again. >> as we have this discussion that is on going right now about a third shot, a booster shot, and the federal government says that's not necessary yet, we hear these stories about americans with compromised immune systems, maybe they are cancer patients or they're transplant patients and they don't actually have even with the vaccination the immunity that say a healthy person would have. so there's a question about are they going to need a booster before other people. when do you expect that is going to happen? it must be soon. >> brianna, there are really two different issues here. one is about boosting. i'll come back to that in a
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moment. and the second is about the right vaccine schedule or dosing for people who have serious problems with their immune response or maybe some people who are much older who have other problems. what we have seen is some people with some forms of immuno compromise don't respond well to the vaccine and for that a third dose or three-dose series may make perfect sense. that's not a booster. a booster is if the vaccine immunity wanes after months or years, then you might get another shot or if something worse than delta comes along because delta may not be the worst this virus deals us, then you might need a tweaked vaccine that would boost your response. in terms of when we'll know, we're going to have to be a little patient here because there's no blood test that can perfectly tell you what is protective. i think the companies are jumping the gun. we don't know if people will need boosters. we won't know that until we find that, gee, after eight months or 12 months people are having more
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and more serious breakthrough infections. maybe that will happen and we'll need periodic boosters or maybe the vaccine is so good that it will be lifelong. we just don't know yet. science will determine whether, when and who is going to need to get a booster shot. >> okay, children. when will children be vaccinated, do you think? >> well, 12 and older can be vaccinated. that's really important. it depends on the clinical trials and approvals by the fda. i think the hopes are by the end of the year maybe even into october, november you might see approvals for younger kids. >> what age do you think, sir? what age are you thinking by october/november? >> well, i'm not going to predict because it really depends on the trials and the fda. but what you would expect is 9 to 12, 6 to 9, 2 to 6 and walk it down the age groups. but the bottom line here is that
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schools can be opened more safely. it's very important that we get schools open for in-person learning and you need a layered level of protection. anyone who can get vaccinated should be. masks need to continue to be worn unless there's universal vaccination. you also need to increase ventilation and distancing and test and prepare for cases and the response to cases so you can limit any spread if it does occur. we can tame this virus, even with the delta strain, but that means working together, vaccinating and following the data so we adjust our policies and our programs to protect people as effectively as possible. >> one of the most insidious things that we're seeing right now as we have these miracle vaccines is fox and other right wing media outlets and politicians who kind of have this, you know, feedback loop with them, creating this anti-covid vaccine and even
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anti-vaccine period message and just perpetuating it. how concerned are you about that? >> it's very worrisome. we used to say about foreign policy that partisanship stops at our shores. and that's long gone. but at least we should say when we're coming to the human race, our -- all people, all humanity against a virus we should all be in this together. and when it comes to some of the misinformation that we're seeing, i think we need to do a much better job at prevention. prevention is better than treatment here. once a rumor gets out, it's very hard to confront it. it's important to do that quickly with facts, with actual stories of actual people. but at the same time, i think any responsible news or social media outlet needs to be much better at reducing false claims. there are false claims about the virus, about the vaccine, about the variants. and we need to, i hope, tone down the partisanship. this is not about democratic or
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republican. there's no democratic or republican way to get vaccinated. there's just vaccination that protects us against the virus and the better we do with that the better people will do regaining our jobs, regaining our economy, going back to schools, going back to the activities we love, having more freedom and instead of having as we are increasingly seeing two americas, one vaccinated, one unvaccinated, one having more and more covid, one able to get on with more of life, we'll have one america united, fighting not just covid but i hope other public health threats as well. >> as we've heard some experts say, two americas, one vaccinated, one infected. dr. tom freiden, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. why did the world's biggest ransomware gang suddenly just go dark? we're going to ask the white house next. plus, just in, the world has been waiting to hear whether supreme court justice stephen breyer will retire.
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now a cnn reporter just got the first interview with him about those plans. you'll want to hear this.
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♪ president biden is set to deliver a mark touting the expanded child tax credit from his coronavirus relief package, as a historic effort to reduce child poverty. and starting today, american families should expect to see these payments on the 15th of every month providing them with extra funds through the end of the year. cnn's adrienne broaddus live in chicago with more on this. i know a lot of people are going to be watching their bank accounts for a direct deposit or the mail for a check, adrienne. >> reporter: that's right, brianna. the irs already has your banking information on file, you should expect a direct deposit.
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one mother we heard from says this will be a big boost for her family. the continuing challenges of the pandemic. >> we made ends meet. it's been difficult with the kids not being in school and just all the struggles of covid. and you know i had a baby in october. >> reporter: and raising four children, three who live with autism, weighs heavy on margaret sullivan. >> we just have a lot of medical appointments and a lot of medical costs. and kind of what keeps the bills coming. >> reporter: now relief is on the way. president joe biden has promised an enhanced child tax credit, even for those who pay no taxes. starting thursday, parents who qualify will receive $3,600 per child under 6, and $3,000 per child between the ages of 6 and 17. sullivan, who works part time in rockford, illinois, knows how she and her husband will spend
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the money. >> we're looking forward to just kind of having to be able to pay our property taxes and pay on the mortgage, get ahead on utilities. >> reporter: the tax credit is available for joint filers, earning up to $150,000 a year and heads of households making up to $112,500. in youngstown, ohio -- >> you like these in the front? >> yeah. >> reporter: mothers like 28-year-old said the pandemic forced her to choose between parenting or a paycheck. >> i have three children. 20 month old twins. it's been really tough on everyone. not being able to go to work because we don't have a baby sitter and when all the day cares closed down. >> reporter: the credit equals several hundred in monthly payments for jasmine and her three children. >> my checks only be like 2, a little bit over that.
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so that would be a big, big difference. >> reporter: she said she recently started working 20 hours a week at a deli. >> mommy -- >> reporter: after staying home during the pandemic to care for her kids. the money will more than double her monthly income, but it won't last long. >> i have a car note that's 250. then my rent, then my electricity, clothes for them, shoes because they're growing everyday. >> reporter: the white house says the enhanced credit will help more than 39 million american families at a cost of an estimated $110 billion. but critics say it discourages work. in a joint statement earlier this year, republican senators marco rubio and mike lee called the credit, quote, welfare assistance, adding congress should expand the child tax credit without undercutting the responsibility of parents to work to provide for their families. sullivan, who said she's doing
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her part to provide, wants a permanent credit. >> great opportunity and we hope it continues. >> reporter: even though this is a tax credit, nonfilers qualify. those folks will be required to provide a little extra information to the irs. brianna? >> so listen up to those folks. look, these are kitchen table issues and adrienne, thank you for taking us right into the kitchen. live for us in chicago, adrienne broaddus. >> this morning, the russian government denies it knows anything about the apparent disappearance of a ransomware gang known as revel. the group got millions in ransom. the disappearance comes after discussion between presidents biden and putin and also as the biden administration prepares to announce new steps to streamline the government response to ransomware. along those lines, joining me now the homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. thank you for being with us.
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what can you tell us about who took this ransomware group offline? >> so, thank you very much for having me this morning. we can't really comment on that publicly right now, but i will say the president has spoken very strongly about the fact that nation states have a responsibility to identify and hold accountable cyber criminals within their boundaries. and that is what we are moving forward on. >> in their boundaries. well, that's interesting. should i read from that that russia itself may have played a role in this? >> so, forgive me, i can't comment on that now, but we are vigilant in our nation's cyber security and we are working with our allies and other nation states because this is a crime that knows no boundaries actually. >> consider yourself forgiven because the united states today is also instituting some new measures, some new processes to deal with ransomware. explain exactly what's
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happening. >> so, we have already begun an all of government effort to increase the cyber crime that's trending a number of years now. one of the greatest threats we face in the cyber area is ransomware, where cyber criminals hold people, homes, small businesses, medium sized, large businesses hostage. their systems hostage until they pay a ransom. and of course, we advise that they not pay that ransom. so one of the things that we've done is set up a -- for the first time ever, a federal government website, a one-stop shop for information, how one can prevent one self from becoming a victim of ransomware and should one become a victim, how one can work with the federal government in partnership to address the
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situation. and that website is called stopransomware.gov. >> mr. secretary, you have expressed support for people in haiti who are experiencing a presidential assassination and frankly a certain degree of chaos and the people in cuba protesting against the authoritarian communist regime there, you expressed support but you also told them don't come to the united states, at least by sea. listen. >> allow me to be clear, if you take to the sea, you will not come to the united states. >> to the united states from cuba in 1960 with your family, fleeing the castro regime. is it fair to tell the people in cuba and haiti right now who want to flee, you know, dangerous situations not to do so? >> it's a very important humanitarian message.
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it is a long-standing message from the united states. and the reality of it is that when people take to the sea, they put their lives in tremendous peril. just in the last few weeks, we have seen approximately 20 people lose their lives by taking to the sea. it is extraordinarily dangerous. it is not worth the risk. and consistent with long-standing practice, people will be returned. one cannot take to the sea and come to the united states. it won't work. and it is extraordinarily dangerous. >> so you will return them to cuba if they leave on a boat from cuba? >> that is correct. and if they have a well-founded fear of persecution or torture, they are resettled in a third country. they are not resettled in the
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united states. and so, an effort to take to the seas imperil one's life to come to the united states specifically will not work. and that is an incredibly important humanitarian message. >> i want to ask you about immigration in general, legal immigration. there are, what, 188,000 arrests or apprehensions or encounters at summer, and specifically -- and it's all connected because there is a lot going on now. there are deadlines expiring or they need to be reviewed. the ban on non-essential travel, which i think expires in days, is that going to be extended? >> so, that is something that we are looking at very carefully. it expires on the 21st of this month. and what we do is we look at the data. we look at the science, the arc
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of the pandemic and make a public health determination as to whether or not to continue with the travel restrictions or to ease them in some regard in the best interests of the american public. >> you know, again -- >> we're looking at the data carefully. >> no decision yet, but it has to come in the next six days. >> yes. >> on that front, i mention the immigration numbers, high numbers. why is it people aren't getting the message you're sending about not coming to the united states? >> well, regrettably, the smugglers are also exploiting the vulnerability of the individuals, individuals who flee economic desperation, violence. and so we are trying to counter that narrative, and we're working very closely with the countries of origin. i was in guatemala, but last week, to speak with the officials, including the president of guatemala to
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address irregular migration. and we are receiving the increasing cooperation of those countries in addressing this issue. >> mr. secretary alejandro mayorkas, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you so much. >> so the former president, we are learning more and more in a series of new books that are coming out, brought u.s. democracy really to the brink. how do we keep that from happening again? a reality check next. plus britney spears demanding that her father be charged with abuse in an emotional hearing. hear what happened. ♪ ♪ ♪ with cutting-edge tech, world-class interiors, and peerless design... their only competition is each other.
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and they planned for ways to stop it. john avalon with a reality check. >> what's it going to take? what's it going to take to make republicans realize that donald trump was and is a danger to our democratic republic? how about the news that america's top generals, quote, believed trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the insurrection act and call out the military to stay in power. that's called a coup, and that's how democracies die. a new book by pulitzer prize winning journalist "i alone can fix it" shows the weeks attack on our capitol. they said trump was acting like, quote, a classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose. this isn't some democrat talking. this is a leader of our nonpartisan military, and it should be a wake up call to anyone who still tries to downplay donald trump and the big lie. because we just lived through the nightmare scenario our founders feared. "the new york times" reporting
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that trump's aides drafted an insurrection act order to deploy the u.s. military on american soil in response to protests. president denied it at the time. no surprise there. but the idea was in wide circulation. because right wing vigilante group members were caught online hoping trump would invoke the insurrection act around january 6. but even this bombshell news about a potential presidential coup for which there is no precedent in mrn history might sound to some folks like a trump scandal. most republicans will react with a shrug and defer to what aboutism. it's because they can't handle the truth. that's why the vast majority refuse to support a bipartisan commission to investigate the tack. that's why we know the threat to our republic is not over, not by a long shot. the guardrails held in the end thanks to a few good men and women in the government. but far more were afraid to speak out which means they remain complicit.
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despite all this evidence that a manifestly unstable man tried to tear up the constitution and overturn an election, donald trump is still the clear leader of the republican party. my country, right or wrong, has been replaced by my party, right or wrong. so who is to say that the next time there is an opportunity to overturn the will of the people that republicans won't refuse to certify an election if they control both houses of congress? we can't say that it can't happen here. because it almost did. and that's why we need to strengthen democracy's guardrails now especially when republic cans are working overtime on voter suppression. president biden's speech was strong, but it side stepped the filibuster. it is clear no election reforms will pass without filibuster reform. that includes the john lewis voting rights act which is now backed by 150 major companies. but a full fledged democracy needs to have guardrails against presidential abuse of power.
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it also requires reforming late congress works, select committee on modernizing congress offered 97 suggestions. books on bipartisan ship, civility and transparency. it's clear many republicans intend to obstruct any reaction. he wants 18 more months of chaos and the ability to get stuff done before the midterms. democracy depends on assumption of good will between fellow citizens. that assumption has been broken by donald trump and his minions that's why there needs to be accountability before there can be unity. if conservatives can't clear a presidential coup, what can they condemn? if this isn't wrong, what is? and that's your reality check. "new day" continues right now. ♪ ♪

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