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♪ hello. i'm ana cabrera in new york. america's attempt to come back hitting a major setback. a new cdc forecast is projecting hospitalizations from covid will likely jump over the next four weeks. until now, we have seen weeks of declines. vaccination rates also declining. so is the age of covid patients. unvaccinated americans now driving up cases in 46 states, and in a state with the lowest vaccination rate, mississippi, seven kids are now fighting covid in intensive care units, two of them on ventilators. vaccinatie ing as many americans possible is key to this pandemic. divisions seem to be overshadowing that. one state eliminating outreach to adolescents at a critical
time with school approaching. vaccinations among adolescents are lagging. how concerning is this? >> it's very concerning. this is a significant chunk of the u.s. population. also, think about it, children under 12 can't get vaccinated. so a lot of them have older siblings who are 12 to 15. so we rely on those to protect the younger ones, but the numbers are not looking great. only 25% u.s. children ages 12 to 15 is fully vaccinated. you can see that's really lagging behind other age groups. kids that age started out great and the numbers really took a nose dive. let's see what parents say about why they're not vaccinating their 12 to 15-year-olds. first of all, about a third have
received at least one dose. 18% of parents are saying i'm going to wait and see. i want to wait and see how other kids 12 to 15 do. spoiler alert. they do great. they don't die of covid. it's amazing. they should try it. in the definitely not group is 25%. 1 in 4 parents of a child 12 to 17 say they will definitely not vaccinate their child. as a parent, i cannot imagine not wanting to protect my child. children are in the icu. children die of covid. children have neurological complications, long haul symptoms for months if not years. why wouldn't you want to protect them? >> we have to encourage those parents to talk to their kbreed tr
pediatricians. there's this new kaiser family foundation poll that shows a little bit of good news. 54% of people who previously were unsure about getting the vaccine changed their mind. they got vaccinated. what was the key? >> it relates a bit to something that you just said. if we look at people who back in january said i'm going to wait and see. 54% did end up getting at least one dose. 25% are still in that wait and see department. it's unclear what they're waiting for. 9% said they would only get it if required and 8% said definitely not. let's take a look. there are some reasons why these people said this. so 25% said i changed my mind because i saw that others were getting vaccinated with minimal side effects. 11% took advice from their doctor. 8% said pressure from family or friends convinced them. only 3% said they changed their
mind because they wanted to be safe among family and friends. it's not because they thought the vaccine would protect them. for the most part, people are getting vaccinated because others around them in some way, shape or form are encouraging them to do so. nearly every state is seeing an increase in cases. take a look at the top five states topping the chart right now. one thing they all have in common are low vaccination rates. we have reporters in two of those states. laila santiago is in miami, florida. miguel marquez is in lafayette, louisiana. both of these states have less than half of residents fully vaccinated. louisiana just 36%, florida 47%. >> reporter: where we are right now jackson health system, they said that over the weekend they saw double the amount of covid-19 patients coming in over
what they saw earlier in the month. many of those who were coming in were unvaccinated and also they're noticing a surge in a younger patient. we're talking about the age bracket of 30 and 40. so you look at the dynamic at play here. we talked to one epidemiologist who said you have the cases doubling, you have the number of positive results going up and then you see that the number of vaccinations is steadily declining. i spoke to an infectious disease expert who said that not only is she concerned about the unvaccinated population and the younger population, she's taking a look at where we are and she believes that not only the u.s. but also florida jumped the gun. >> we jumped the gun because people who were unvaccinated were following what the cdc recommended for vaccinated people and mingling and
co-mingling. that is part of the problem. we got to our mass gatherings too soon. >> reporter: she warns that if something doesn't change, if more precautions aren't taken, we're going to see more cases and more deaths. i did check in with the governor's office this morning. they say right now there are no plans for any closures or he has ruled out any possible lockdowns. this comes as norwegian cruise lines is now suing florida's general surgeon because of the ban on vaccine passports, essentially a law in place that does not allow the business to ask for their employees or passengers to provide proof of documentation. they say it's a big dilemma because however they operate, they're on the wrong side of health and safety or on the wrong side of florida law.
>> i want to turn to miguel in louisiana. what are doctors there saying? >> reporter: we're at our lady of lords regional medical center in lafayette. we just spoke to a doctor who's been dealing with covid patients over the last year. the state is now in its fourth surge of covid infections across the state of louisiana. doctors are tough people. this is a guy who told us that what is different now is that the people are so young. these are parents of young kids. what is different about what he is seeing now is that he is having to explain to 4 and 5 and 6-year-olds that their parents will not be coming home because they're going to have to stay in the hospital because they are very sick. he got very choked up talking about that. we're seeing the same thing in other parts of the state, low vaccination rates and a high rate of the spread of the delta variant right now. we spoke to a doctor at st.
frances hospital. he laid out what is different about what they are seeing coming through their doors right now. >> mostly young people and people at risk. that's the different in this potential surge over the next few weeks, is that we're seeing patients in their 30s and 40s. 99% of the patients that are presenting are unvaccinated. the main issue is that the delta virus is more transmissible. the original virus, there were estimations from the cdc that every one person that got the virus infected one to two other people. with delta, we're concerned that six to eight people may become infected from one person. >> reporter: so here is the problem. if you have that virus spreading in that way with six to eight people getting it off of one person, in areas where there is a high number of people who are unvaccinated like in louisiana,
only about 30% of the people are vaccinated. but if 70% of the population is unvaccinated, that virus is going to find them and make them sick. all preventible. >> that is the keyword, prevention. you don't have to end up in the hospital. you can stop it. vaccines are highly effective. thank you both. dr. leana wen is with us now. she's an emergency physician. as you listen to laila and miguel, what goes through your mind? >> i'm extremely upset and frustrated, because we have been there before. listening to these reports is as if we are back in november or december of last year. the difference, though, is that we actually have life-saving vaccines. we have the ability to prevent these surges, but we're seeing this happening all over again. there are areas of the country
with very low rates of vaccination. this is an extremely contagious variant, the most contagious variant yet. it is ripping throug h >> given the vaccine requirements, which i know you've been advocating for a while, tennessee is pulling the plug on adolescent vaccine out reach. what's your message to leaders in those states that are making those kinds of decisions? >> i want these leaders to think about what their values are. are our values of freedom for
we're seeing the surges across the country in part because of the confused messaging from the cdc. >> dr. leana wen, thank you. senate democrats just announced a new plan to decriminalize pot nationwide. but can the rest of washington get on board? and whay the administration is considering an emergency hotline with beijing. plus, hours from now a major hearing could take britney sp spears' fight for independence in a new direction. ♪ [music and sound effects played in reverse] this...is our shot. the covid-19 vaccines are ready. and so is walgreens, with pharmacy experts ready to make it easy for you to get it safely, for free.
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president biden just arrived on the hill moments ago, where he will have lunch with senate democrats as they sharpen their knives for the battle over infrastructure spending. democrats on the senate budget committee say they reached a deal last night on the framework for a $3.5 trillion spending plan. notably this is separate from the bipartisan bill that's mostly focused on roads and bridges. manu raju is on capitol hill. are democrats on board at this point to get it through? >> reporter: that's a big question. they are moving on two separate tracks. there's a bipartisan proposal spending $600 billion in new money for traditional infrastructure. those negotiations still ongoing, still haggling over how to pay for it and still uncertain whether they'll get 60
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from tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. this would end a federal ban on marijuana, decriminalize it at the federal level. >> it's long overdue. we have all seen the agony of a young person arrested with a small amount of marijuana in his or her pocket. and because of the historical overcriminalization of marijuana, they have a severe criminal record they have to live with their whole life. >> now, the proposal calls for regulating marijuana just like tobacco or alcohol and taxing it like those products as well. we have the executive director for the national organization for the reform of marijuana laws. this group has been waging this fight for more than 50 years now. great to have you with us. marijuana is already legal in 37
states and d.c. for medicinal use. 18 states and d.c. allow recreational use. it's a multibillion dollar industry in this country. what kind of game changer would this be if the federal government were to decriminalize pot? >> it would be a huge game changer nationwide. it's so long overdue. we have all these states across the country that are technically out of compliance with federal law. what this bill would do is simply acknowledge that reality that you have on the ground. it would let these states move forward with their legalization models free from fear of federal incursion and we can slowly bring to an end this disastrous war on marijuana that has ruined so many lives across this country, particularly with the overincarceration and arrest of black and brown americans. around 70% of all americans support removing marijuana from the controlled substances act. it would fulfill the will of the
people and acknowledge the political reality on the ground. >> i used to be a correspondent based in colorado which was ground zero with the cannabis experiment. they have raked in billions in sales revenue. how much money are we talking in terms of tax revenue if this were to be a new federal revenue source? >> well, you would have a several-layered tax structure. you'd have the states that would apply their own taxes. states that legalize marijuana for adults bring in significant tax revenue, often well in excess of $100 million a year. that's on top of the savings they have from simply not arresting people and paying police officers and the courts for dealing with simple marijuana possession. this would apply a 10% excise tax at the beginning at the federal level. we should look at this as a money makmaker to fund the prog. this is really an issue of civil
liberty and justice. the tax revenue ultimately is just icing on the cake. >> as far as concerns related to health and safety, to those who may say there is not enough research to know all the risks to marijuana, you say what? >> well, i say go over to pub med, the online repository the government maintains of peer reviewed studies. there is well over 33,000 results for marijuana on that website of peer reviewed research. that is more than they have for as aspirin. >> do you expect republicans to be on board with this legislation? >> well, they should. the infrastructure bill, the bipartisan package that everyone in congress says they want, one
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we're told this hotline could be used to share information like sudden military movements or warning messages about cyber hacks. is this a good idea? >> it really is an interesting report. i would say it does have a strong cold war echo to me in a way. that's a good thing, obviously, more communication. however, it also suggests people in the white house are anticipating a future where there might be more chance for misunderstanding and more potential conflict. one thing i consistently heard over the years is that the chinese at the highest levels of their military are much less interested in engaging with their counterparts in the u.s. than even the soviets in the latter stages of the cold war. there's not as robust a dialogue right now as perhaps there should be. i think that's what's motivating this. >> what's interesting to me is, i there's already a similar hotline to china that exists exclusively for military
purposes. but we're told the times the hotline has been used no one answers. it just rang and rang and rang for hours. what does that tell you about the communication between the u.s. and china? >> it's a metaphor for the entire relationship, isn't it? we're not only not speaking each other's language, but we can't get through even when we think we have the right number. for example, think about something as important as nuclear arms control and the strategic dialogue both on nuclear weapons or cyber weapons. the chinese have been very reluctant to participate. the trump administration wanted to have a three-way negotiation with the russians and the chinese over such issues. no go. i think that's also the case right now with the biden administration. right now, the old order has sort of broken down and it's not clear what the new order is going to be in terms of an international framework for dealing with conflicts between
great powers like the u.s. and china. >> i want to shift dpgears. former president bush, who launched the war in afghanistan, spoke out on the possible consequences of the u.s. troop withdrawal. take a listen. >> sadly, i'm afraid afghan women and girls are going to suffer unspeakable harm. >> is it a mistake to withdraw? >> i think it is because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. >> susan, what's your reaction? >> it's interesting to hear former president bush speaking out in this way. as you know, he's been very circumstance spect in the years since he left the white house, even when donald trump was in office. as you know, trump often attacks bush. bush did not tend to respond publicly in kind. the situation with women and girls in particular was a big issue not only for president, who launched the operation there 20 years ago, but also his wife, former first lady laura bush was always active on this specific
issue of the status of women and girls in afghanistan. i think what you're seeing there a little bit is a reversion to the foreign policy norm of the republican party. trump at times took positions that many in the republican establishment were very uncomfortable with, and trump had set in motion this withdrawal from afghanistan with his peace deal with the taliban and could certainly have gone through with it had he gotten a second term. many republicans might not have spoken out at that time, but they are more willing to be critical of biden for doing the same thing. >> susan glasser, i always learn so much from you. thank you. children fighting covid in a mississippi hospital. they didn't have the vaccination choice, but the adults around them did. we talk to one of the doctors seeing it firsthand.
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words and deeds, is pushing back even harder now in her latest challenge to leader kevin mccarthy. melanie zanona, what message is cheney sending to the top house republican? >> liz cheney had some strong words for mccarthy about who he should and should not appoint to the select committee. quote, it's important we have members who are committed to upholding the rule of law and members committed to their oath to the constitution and i would certainly hope that the minority leader will be guided by that as he makes his choices. she didn't name names here, but this means republicaning s tryo challenge the legitimacy of the election or whitewash january 6th. that characterization would apply to a large swath of her house republican colleagues. these comments underscore how cheney is approaching this committee and not shying away
from calling out partisanship. >> she's taking a big risk, right, in how this plays with voters in her home state of wyoming. is she worried this is going to cost her her seat. >> the short answer is no. i asked cheney whether she was worried about the political blowback for agreeing to serve on this panel at the behest of speaker nancy pelosi. she said this is bigger than politics and she felt a sense of duty to be on this panel. she knows her presence will bring some credibility and bipartisanship to the panel's work. she also framed it in dire terms. she said it's really dangerous to have donald trump still out there spreading lies about the election that incited violence. she felt like she had to put politics and calculations aside. of course, the reality is this could be an issue for her in her primary race. this panel is likely going to drag into the next year, it's going to be high profile and guarantee that liz cheney is in the spotlight and her opponents are going to try to seize on it and use it against her.
>> melanie zanona, i'm sorry i got stuck on your name when i introduced you. >> that's okay. >> so great to have you as part of the cnn family. >> happy to be here. it's just a heartbreaking situation in mississippi right now. the state says seven children there are in the icu with covid, two of them on ventilators. their infections come months after vaccines became widely available free of charge to adults and to anyone 12 and holh older. some of these children are being treated at the university of mississippi medical center. dr. alexaan jones joins us. this is really concerning. tell us about the cases you're seeing involving children. what's the age range? what condition are they in? what else can you tell us? >> so we are seeing an increase in the number of hospitalizations of children. most of them are -- we've had
infants as small as 6 to 8 months old up to the teenage years. many of them are not icu level patients and are just in the hospital on a regular floor, but we have seen an increase in both icu patients as well as patients on the regular floor. >> are you seeing similarities in terms of what would have made these children more vulnerable to covid? >> a lot of the patients that we're seeing, particularly the ones ending up in the icu, do have some type of chronic comorbid condition that would predispose them to having covid or having hospitalization or a bad outcome from covid. but we also are seeing some that don't have any underlying medical conditions and are just a little bit more ill than they could stay at home for. >> are their symptoms similar to
what adults are experiencing? >> we are seeing mostly the same symptoms, a lot of fever and cough among these patients. so not a whole lot of difference in the original symptoms that we saw in kids and the ones we're seeing now. >> you say you're seeing more pediatric admissions now than you were early on in the pandemic. why do you think that is? >> well, i think it's probably for several reasons. the first is, we do know in mississippi that the predominant strain that's circulating probably 88 to 90% of it is the delta variant. that variant is more infectious than some of the viruses that we saw earlier in the pandemic. that associated with the fact that we are seeing a lot less mask usage now is another variable that plays into the
equation of why we're seeing more. and then finally, it appears as though this particular variant, the delta variant, while being more infectious, is also causing more children to be symptomatic. whether that is that it causes a little more severe illness than other variants or that it is just more prevalent and so we're seeing more symptomatic cases, we're not sure, but it's probably multifactorial and related to all of those things. >> children under the age of 12 aren't eligible to get vaccinated now, which is our best defense against this virus. mississippi at large only has 34% of the total population fully vaccinated, the second lowest rate in the country right now. as you've discussed, the delta variant is surging. what needs to change? >> we would really like to see that percent of the population in mississippi that have been
vaccinated fully vaccinated increase. wha >> what's stopping people from getting vaccinated? >> i'm sorry. could you repeat that question? >> what's stopping more people from getting vaccinated? >> you know, i don't really know the answer to that question. of the eligible people that are in the state, as you said, we know that approximately a third have been vaccinated. obviously we would like for as many people to get vaccinated as possible, but there is -- you know, we are relatively a rural state and there is some difficulty getting out to some of those rural areas and offering them within those communities. there also seems to be some hesitancy in uptake probably for various reasons. but the important thing here is that we think that most of these hospitalizations and
unfortunately some of the deaths we're seeing are preventible if people that are eligible would get out and get the vaccine. >> what are you hearing from the parents of these children who are now hospitalized with covid? >> well, we're seeing a lot of respiratory illness now, both covid and particularly rsv is going around heavily right now. i think that parents would like to have a situation where their children are as protected as they can be, but that requires everybody to do their part, wear masks when appropriate and get vaccinated. >> thank you for taking the time to share with us what's happening in your area. good luck. >> of course. britney spears, her fight for freedom heads back to court this afternoon. what could be different this time? [ echoing ] some of us were born for this.
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conservatorship. it's been three weeks now since that powerful testimony she gave where she described the arrangement as abusive. she said she's been forced to perform, she's been given lithium against her will and was prevented from having children. chloe is on it for us. chloe, a lot has happened in the weeks since spears made those explosive revelations in court. what's expected to happen today? >> reporter: good afternoon, ana. there have been a slew of resignations from britney's legal team and her management team since that explosive testimony. we have bessimer trust, the co-conservator of their estate saying they don't want to be part of this anymore. you have spears' long-time attorney who has been with her since the beginning of this conservatorship in 2008 submitting his resignation, which the judge will hear today. we also have larry rudolph, britney spears' long-time manager of 25 years, saying that
he doesn't want to be her manager anymore because she's going to be retiring, which we have never heard britney say that she has plans to retire, but that's what larry rudolph says. in the meantime the big thing is, is the judge going to allow britney to retain her own counsel? she has always had a court-appointed lawyer. earlier i saw former federal prosecutor matthew rosengard. she has been in talks with him to represent her. that would be a huge moment if the judge said he can be your new attorney because we are expecting him to file that petition to terminate the conservatorship and perhaps go to the appellate court to have this completely overturned. >> so could the judge actually ending the conservatorship today or is this just one more stepping stone? >> reporter: yes, in theory judge brenda penny could say, you know what, britney spears
does not need to be in a conservatorship anymore, i heard you loud and clear, and let's just stop this right now and you can go free to live your life the way that you want to. but that is a very, very, very, very, very small percent chance that will happen. what will most likely happen is perhaps a guardian ad litem will help britney find an attorney and britney will then -- this will drag out i would assume over the next few months. >> chloe melas, thanks so much. thank you for joining me today. i'll see you back here tomorrow 1:00 eastern. in the meantime join me on twitter @anacabrera. the news continues next with alisyn and victor. have a great afternoon. you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars.
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