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it is wednesday, july 14th. coronavirus cases surging this morning in the united states fueled by the fast-spreading new variant and driven by the unvaccinated. >> that's right. more than 40 states are seeing a sharp rise in new infections because of this delta variant, and that is a 10% higher -- it's 10% higher than what we have seen the previous week. in 34 states, new cases are 50% higher than last week. we have some alarming new numbers about who is getting hit by this new variant. >> all right. joining us now, cnn senior data reporter harry. you have been preparing this up until 4 seconds ago. >> i think it's 3 seconds. >> i'm anticipating great things. i want to talk about cases. it is undeniable cases are rising fairly quickly. >> look, i think it's important to point out that we are rising right here. you can bates kelley see this, right. we hit businesasically the trou june. we've been seeing the rise seven
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days. it is not as high as it was in february, but we are clearly seeing a rise. what we are seeing is a rise in hospitalizations, right. we see this is the change in new coronavirus. hospitalizations, seven-day average. we had been dropping most of the year, now all of a sudden we're seeing the rise. that is far more worse. >> we talk about cases, and that's one thing. that's symptomatic, asymptomatic. this is people getting sick. more people are get bting sick,o sick they have to be hospitalized. the rate is increasing pretty quickly at this point. what do we know about the age of people getting sick, harry? >> right. look, these are the cases. this is a percentage of all coronavirus cases. this is the big take away, right. those under 50, they did makeup the clear majority of new cases back in december of 2020 at 65%. but now we see them rising to 72% in june of 2021. the idea that it's basically this old person disease really does not bear itself out in the numbers. it's, in fact, the vast majority
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of the people getting coronavirus at this particular point is under 50. it's a young person disease, john. >> what about people being hospitalized? >> this is also key. look at this. in december of 2020, what do we see in the coronavirus hospitalizations? those under 20 were just 22%. but look at the preliminary june data. i should point out that this is across selected hospitals by the cdc. look at the late june data, late may, late june. 45%. a doubling percentage. the portion is double under 50s. they were making it 22%, they are now at 45%. the idea this is an old person illness isn't true. it's not true in cases and it isn't true any more in hospitalizations. it's rile bad which means you're really sick. >> double the percentage of people in the hospital under 50 from before. that is notable. let's talk about the percent of the younger population -- depends what we mean by younger -- that's been
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vaccinated at this point. >> if you're basically looking for a reason why we may have seen this change around, this is fully vaccinated, the proportion of each group, that is. obviously >> they're not eligible. >> they're not eligible. look at age 12 to 49. only 45% are fully vaccinated. look at those age 50 and older. around 72% are fully vaccinated. so when you see rise in cases among young folks, you see rising hospitalizations among young folks and you see that a lot lower portion of their population is fully vaccinated. i don't think it's that hard of an equation to figure out. and if nothing else, we know the vaccines work. this number needs to go up because this is crazy, folks. folks in my age bracket, i believe even your age bracket barely -- >> barely. >> still there. we need to get more vaccinated otherwise you're going to see results like we did in the earlier slide. >> this is the optional part, optional and younger part of the pandemic we're in now. i just want to put up. this is something dr. anthony fauci said before. this is such an important number, harry.
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explain this. >> i mean, this is insane, right. look at this. june coronavirus deaths by sheer vaccination, .8% of those who died in june were fully vaccinated. look at that. 99.2% were unvaccinated. my goodness gracious, could you find a clearer statistic than this, that the vaccines work? i don't believe you can. this is why it's so important for folks to get vaccinated because we know they work, and this number clearly, clearly shows it. and we see it in the numbers as well. the younger age groups, a lot fewer of them are vaccinated and a lot more of them have higher cases and higher hospitalizations. >> harry, you say the number in politics, in weather, in sports, baseball, a 99.2% -- >> you never see it. you never see this type of number. you never see such clear correlations. i wish when i ran my statistical program and data we would see numbers like this because it shows such a clear correlation. you try and get numbers that
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show such clear correlations. you never see it. this clearly shows. folks, get vaccinated. it clearly works. my god, my god. i run out of words because it's just so clear and people are being so freaking silly. it works, get vaccinated. it works. >> harry, thank you very much for that. >> thank you. >> brianna? >> i love it. you know, coronavirus vaccines, they're almost batting a thousand, right? unheard of. >> there it is. >> thank you for imploring people. harry, thank you. >> thank you, brianna. i want to bring in the chief medical officer at jackson memorial hospital. thank you so much for being with us this morning, especially from florida, which is one of the states that is currently experiencing a rise in new hospitalizations. give us a sense of the situation there at jackson memorial. >> thank you. good morning, brianna. so, we're seeing exactly what was mentioned earlier. we've had in the last 7 to 14 days roughly a doubling of the number of patients hospitalized
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with covid infection, and the age group is exactly what was mentioned earlier as well, which is that sort of 30 to 50 age group is being hospitalized as well. the biggest thing we're noticing really is the people who are being hospitalized are those who are unvaccinated. and we think that's come with a lot of the unmasking and that everyone is unmasking, even those who are still at risk. exactly we're seeing the national trend. >> so, you said the mostly unvaccinated. what percentage of the people would you say that you are treating in the hospital are unvaccinated? >> i don't have the exact number with me, but i think it's upwards of 90%. the other thing we're certainly seeing is that those who are vaccinated who are being infected, which is certainly the minority are having much more milder disease than those who are vaccinated being infected. >> what kind of disease are the unvaccinated folks having? >> i mean, all the things that
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go with sort of a more severe coronavirus infection. so they're, you know, having a lot of difficulty breathing, their oxygen levels are falling, you know. so what we saw prior to the vaccine and the severity of illness is what we're essentially seeing in the unvaccinated. >> do these patients who are unvaccinated -- i mean, what do they say to you about why they made that decision? >> you know, it's -- our job is to take care of patients when they come. we, you know, we certainly don't want do shame anyone or -- at the same time, we do educate them on the safety of the vaccine and the effectiveness of the vaccine. but, you know, at the end of the day, you know, it is everyone's choice. we can strongly encourage it and we can ask them what their concerns are and address those concerns. but ultimately it is up to the individual patient whether or not they get the vaccine. >> are any of them saying, like, i just hadn't gotten around to it? or does it seem like there are
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personal objections? i understand they have covid. you have no interest in shaming them for whatever decision they made. are they giving you a sense of that, this is something they just hadn't gotten to? they thought they weren't at risk? >> it's not so much that they hadn't gotten to it. they may be concerned about the safety of the vaccine or they may be concerned that it's not fully fda approved and still under emergency use authorization. those, i think, are more of the comments we're hearing. the vaccine is fairly widely available. we had a huge drive early on where we're giving so many vaccines to the community. it was a very effective, and we're very happy to do that. the desire or the need -- the desire for the vaccine has certainly, you know, cooled off in the interim. >> so there's a discussion about whether employers should require employees to be vaccinated, especially in the medical field?
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is jackson memorial requiring workers get vaccinated? >> you know, we are not currently requiring it. obviously we have more stringent requirements regarding masking inside the hospital to keep, you know, our staff safe, our patients safe, our patients' families who are able to visit safe. so it is not required here at this time, but, you know, it's something we're constantly looking at. it's -- >> i think unfortunately d dr. atala has frozen there as we still deal with some gremlins here. thank you so much, dr. atallah, for being with us. we appreciate it. today president biden has a lunch date on capitol hill with senate democrats. this is his first with the caucus since taking office. and there is a heaping portion of party unity that will be on the menu. democrats on the senate budget committee actually just struck an agreement. they struck this deal on a $3.5 trillion budget resolution, and it includes spending for president biden's sweeping social agenda.
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the hurdle, the big one, is going to be getting everyone on board. so let's bring in cnn white house correspondent john harwood. all right. he has his work cut out for him, john. >> reporter: he does. but this agreement that they announced last night is a signal that they will be able to get every democrat on board. this is a very significant moment in the biden administration, brianna, because it's not the finish line for the president's agenda on infrastructure and help for struggling families, but it gives you an indication of what the finish line is going to look like. president biden proposed more than $4 trillion between the physical infrastructure part and the help for families. that's early childhood education, free community college, expansion of medicare, big checks that are going already from the provisions of the american rescue plan of up to $300 per month into the bank accounts of the parents of 90% of american children, cutting child poverty in half.
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those are the big achievements that joe biden wanted to get to. he got a piece of it with the rescue plan. this is the completion of that agenda if they can get there. and the framework means that people from bernie sanders to joe manchin on the right have provided at least tentative initial buy-in for this number. they wouldn't have announced it otherwise. so a lot of work to do, a lot of specifics to be hashed out. tough votes to be cast. but the administration is pretty hopeful this morning. >> how does biden navigate republicans who came to a smaller infrastructure deal? how does he navigate them looking at what's happening on the side here without them and perhaps having issues with that? >> well, they are going to have issues with that, and that's one of the challenges. you know, there was a controversy a couple weeks ago when nancy pelosi, the house speaker, and president biden indicated the linkage, explicit
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linkage between the two-packages. of course, they are linked. everyone knew that. they sort of said out loud what people had known in the background. and so some republicans may look at this agreement as an excuse to say, if my smaller bipartisan deal is going to make it possible for them to pass this big tax and spending package, i want out. so we're going to have a test of how much they are in support of the things that they negotiated on physical infrastructure. do they really want those things and do they want to be associated with those things? if they don't, democrats are likely to try to fold those into the reconciliation package. but this is an indication of solidarity within the democratic party. they know that they can get a big portion of the president's agenda even without republicans. they would rather -- president biden would rather do some of it with republicans. so this is going to be on the table for both parties, but joe biden can see some of the changes that he hopes to bring to the country and sees the
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prospect that you could have significant action on that this summer. >> we'll be looking towards this lunch today as he is trying to send his message lautoud and cl to senate democrats. thank you so much. >> you bet. should the supporters who stormed the capitol on january 6 be charged? we'll have that next. a journalist who said she was kept from kidnap by iranian spies. and britney spears appears in court again later today. new neutrogena® rapid firming. a triple-lift serum with pure collagen. 92% saw visibly firmer skin in just 4 weeks. neutrogena® for people with skin.
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in texas, five members of the same family have been arrested in one of the largest single-day sweeps of defendants in one capitol riot case to date. officials say a tipster led fbi investigators to parents and their children after spotting several social media posts on their accounts appearing to confirm that they were inside the u.s. capitol on january 6th. the family members face charges including entering a restricted building without lawful authority, and disorderly conduct in the capitol building. >> so should capitol rioters be charged with insurrection, which is a crime? under title 18 of the u.s. code, punishable by a fine, maximum sentence of ten years in prison or both. joining me now, one of the nation's preeminent legal scholars, harvard law school professor lawrence tribe and his
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student. cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. professor, i want to start with you here. you think -- you actually wrote that you think some of the insurrectionists should be charged for insurrection. why? >> because that's what they're guilty of engaging in. you know, charging them with simply entering a federal building without permission or causing a disturbance or engaging in theft would be like charging john wilkes booth with disturbing a play at the ford theater when, in fact, he was guilty of assassinating a president. this law making it a crime for people to engage in or incite or give aid or comfort to an insurrection against the laws of the united states was passed in 1862 to help abraham lincoln preserve the union. it hasn't been applied because we haven't had an insurrection since then. but this was an insurrection, and a bipartisan majority in the
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house of representatives on january 13th, by a vote of 232-197, said exactly that. now, even though the senate acquitted the president because they thought, having left office, he could no longer be put on trial, there's no doubt that a bipartisan majority of congress believes it was an insurrection, and everybody who fomented it, including perhaps the president of the united states, should be charged with the crime that they committed. >> so, jeffrey toobin, if it was an insurrection, why should the people involved be charged with insurrection? >> well, i revere l.t., but i do disagree with him here. he made the key point here, which is that this is a law passed in 1862. it's almost never been applied. it is unclear what the word insurrection means, how it would work with the jury instruction. to charge insurrection would be to invite a legal fight, which would jeopardize the convictions
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that are likely to come out of this case. there are not minor charges pending here. there are conspiracies that have been charged. there are assaults. there are, you know, destruction of federal property. there are chances to -- for the legal system to punish the people who broke the laws in a very severe way, but without inviting the legal mysteries that a very rare insurrection prosecution would present. and i think prosecutors who are naturally reluctant to invite appeals and legal challenges, they're right to stay away from this particular law. >> professor, you mentioned the former president himself. do you think the former president should be charged with insurrection? >> well, he certainly gave aid and comfort to this group. he said that he loved them. he rallied them on. he cheered them on from his safe perch in front of the white house. i'm not going to judge the evidence in advance, but it
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seems to me that the department of justice would be remiss, and my other former student merrick garland, would be remiss if he didn't take seriously the possibility of charging the former president with insurrection. after all, he has been sued under related statutes, both by eric swalwell and by bennie thompson, members of congress. those lawsuits i think are very strong. and with all respect to one of my favorite former students, jeff toobin, i think the fact that there would be legal problems in doing this for the first time is not a reason not to do it. there's always a first time, and this was the first insurrection that we've had since the civil war. besides, all of the issues could go forward at the same time. >> do you think it would give the former president political ammunition, though, if he were acquitted, as student toobin suggests he might be, and donald trump can walk around and say i
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was acquitted of insurrection, there was no insurrection. isn't there a civil liberties question here, larry? criminal law is a very blunt tool. you're not talking about criticizing someone. you're not talking about charging them with money damages. you're talking about locking them up in prison. i mean, that's what criminal cases are about. >> right. >> to do so in -- with a law that, you know, has almost never been applied, that is, you know, written in archaic language at the heart of its word insurrection is not something that is commonly in parlance and that we all know what it means. isn't that troubling to think you could lock people up for that when, you know, we don't really know what it means? >> jeff, i think i taught you pretty well. you're making a good argument, but you're not convincing me. it seems to me that no one is above the law. and a law like this may have some blurry edges. there may be some close cases where it's not clear there was an insurrection.
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but we were all watching an en insurrection on january 6th. whatever an insurrection is includes storming the capitol, killing guards, squeezing them behind walls, threatening to hang the vice president of the united states, and interrupting the conduct of a serious constitutional role by the congress of the united states. namely, carrying out the electoral count act of 1887. the fact that these laws were passed long ago seems to me to have no significance at all. they were passed long ago. they have served their purpose, but finally there was an insurrection. and unless we punish it as such, we are going to invite more such chaos and perhaps the end of democracy. >> well, let's be clear. i am not suggesting immunity for these folks. our disagreement is about what
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precise charges that should be filed. there are lots of charges that have been filed, should be filed, will be tried or result in guilty pleas from these cases. the issue is should that include insurrection. at this point i don't think so. >> the reason it should is that, guess what? it was an insurrection. we are living through the era of the big lie where we refuse to call things what they are. it seems to me that the only way to survive as a democracy is to start telling the truth. this was an insurrection by anyone's definition, and that's what makes it peculiarly dangerous. it's not dangerous just because there was some assault and battery and theft. it's dangerous because it was an attack on the very functioning of our democratic system, the selection of a new president. unless we treat that as a distinctive thing which congress long ago decided we should, we are not living up to our
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responsibilities as citizens. >> professor lawrence tribe and your one-time young patawan, jeffrey toobin. >> what's a patawan? >> "star wars." professor tribe knows that. just in, george w. bush speaking out about the exit from afghanistan he calls it a mistake. this is unusual language from george w. bush. you'll want to hear this. and two tales of mike pompeo. what the secretary of state was saying publicly versus privately about the election. we roll the tape next. your cloud... it isn't just a cloud. it's everything flowing through it. and it's more distributed than ever. one company takes you inside. giving you visibility and insight...to take action. one company... securely connects it all... on any platform, in any environment.
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foreign conflict as a way to strengthen his hand in a fight to stay in the office. he suggested regular calls with milley and meadows so they could keep the hot spots down overseas. the crazies have taken over, pompeo warned one colleague about the white house. end quote. but as pompeo reportedly sounded the alarm on, quote, crazies undermining the show, he was openly denying that joe biden won, making this declaration at a news briefing a week after election day sound even more insane in retrospect. >> there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. >> now, weeks followed of trump refusing to concede the election, empty legal challenges of certified results across the country, threatening to trample the american political system, the peaceful transfer of power between administrations. in january pompeo finally acknowledged the reality it
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turns out he had been secretly been living in for two months. >> i think we are leaving after four years, i think we're leaving the world safer than when we came in. i hope that the policies that we put in place will have the capacity to continue. >> and joining us now is cnn anchor and chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. there is a slew of new books out, jim, and we are learning so much as they kind of pull the curtain back on especially these final months of the trump administration, and one of the books actually reveals that there was so much fear among pentagon officials about what trump might do with the military, what he might enlist them to do following the election. >> listen, you get a view as to what had happened, one, had trump been elected. you had esper and others saying he would have pulled the u.s. straight out of nato. he would have pulled the u.s. out of its decades-old alliance with south korea. things he tip toed around as president. listen, after the election, abe
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are off. we weren't that far off from it. before that right, it was a period of time post-election before the inauguration, the fears of esper and others in the pentagon about how trump might attempt to use the military. esper, for instance, you know, describes his fears of a more compliant defense secretary if he himself were fired because, for instance, esper had already pushed back against trump using the military under of the insurrection act to respond to domestic protest. and you have these coffernversas talking about fourth and fifth rate people in charge at the pentagon. you have the account of mark milley receiving a call from a former military, senior military official saying, the phrase, you are an island unto yourself as the head of the military. these aren't wilting flowers, they're not alarmist. but their concern about what this president is capable of after the election is alarming.
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>> you get the sense how much they were holding the door. >> yes, just holding the door. >> just holding the door, afraid that it might not hold, to be honest. i want to get your insight on what we have just heard from former president george w. bush about the u.s. exit from afghanistan. let's listen. >> sadly, i'm afraid afghan women and girls are going to suffer unspeakable harm. >> this is a mistake, the withdrawal? >> you know, i think it is, yeah. because i think the consequence are going to be unbelievably bad. and i'm sad. i spent -- laura and i spent a lot of time with afghan women, and they're scared. i think about all the interpreters and people that helped not only u.s. troops, but nato troops, and they're just -- it seems like they're going to be left behind to be slaughtered by these very brutal people. it breaks my heart. >> we know that his fears about
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afghan women and afghans who helped americans are very real. many people connect with that. i'm not sure he's the person to be criticizing others' actions on afghanistan, but he certainly is a significant voice in this as the person who began the war. >> by the way, he's not alone. i've been speaking over the last couple weeks to current military officials in the pentagon and former folks who served in senior positions, but also commanded forces in afghanistan, across the board they are deeply fearful about the future of afghanistan. pessimistic about where this is going to go. so george w. bush is not an island on that. >> they wonder why the u.s. didn't keep some sort of toe hold. >> this is the mark milley argument, finger in the dam argument. we're nowhere near 135,000 troops, about 5,000. the pentagon set a floor of 3 to 5,000 just to provide some counter terror capability, but also to give the afghan forces some confidence, right. that's the finger in the dam.
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you take your finger out of the dam, the dam breaks. where you are now, the fear is the dam will break for the taliban. you can see them marching across the country. i can tell you about women and girls there. i've been to afghanistan a couple times. every time i went i went to girls schools. that was the number one thing afghan people would talk about as a positive development post-u.s. invasion, was the opening of girls schools. the taliban brutally shut that down. i met with them there. you know, these are lovely people, right, who finally got a chance. i, like bush, fear for them. at a minimum, they're not going to get that chance. at the far end, we know what the taliban is capable of. they'll attack these people, you know. >> it's a very real fear. jim sciutto, thank you very much. we'll see you soon, 25 minutes at the top of the hour. four iranian nationals have been charged in an alleged plot to kidnap an american journalist from new york city. and the woman claiming to be that journalist will join us
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happening overnight, federal prosecutors have charged four iranian nationals in an alleged plot to kidnap a journalist and human rights activist from new york city. according to an indictment unsealed in new york federal court tuesday, the four were charged with conspiracy related to kidnapping, sanctions violations, bank and wire fraud and money laundering. u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york audrey strauss said in a statement, quote, as alleged, four of the defendants monitored and planned to kidnap a u.s. citizen of iranian origin who has been critical of the regime's autocracy and forcibly take the victim to iran where her fate would have been uncertain at best. those four men remain at large. they did not identify the victim and declined to comment to cnn on the case.
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but my next guest says she was the target of the alleged kidnapping plot. she joins us, amasi amenajad. we reached out for reply, by have not heard back. good morning, i'm glad you're well. how did you find out about this plot? >> i didn't know about the details. first of all, i have to say that the details were shocking. i just learned about them last night. but, the fbi came to my house about eight months ago and they were telling me that this house is not safe for you, and i was like, you must be kidding me, because i receive daily death threats. what's new? i'm here in america. they cannot do anything. then when they showed me the photos of my private life with my husband, my stepchildren, my beautiful garden in brooklyn, i was like, wow. so the government are that close
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to me? and then i took it serious. so they sent me to the safe house and i'm being under fbi protection until now. >> how long have you been in a safe house? >> we actually change different safe houses for three months because the fbi actually arrested the investigator, the one who was taking photo of me and they asked me to work with them, like go in safe house, go live on instagram without mentioning it location because the fbi was trying to find out whether they were going to follow me and find me my new place, and they did. >> so just to be clear, the iranians somehow were casing you, right? >> yeah. it's unbelievable. i cannot believe it that in new york, the islamic republic was allowed actually to threat and follow me, an american iranian citizen, here in the land of the united states of america. and i was shocked because, you
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know, we've been -- heard so many times, people, iranian dissidents targeted by iranian officials in europe. but never -- actually the fbi told me this is the first time in the history they actually chased and followed an iranian citizen in the united states of america. >> you said you just learned some of the details. >> oh, yeah. >> yesterday. what details did you learn? >> they were following me to take me, to grab me to a boat to venezuela. i was like, wow, so that was the plan? but what is the most shocking thing for me here, that they even arrested someone in america. it means that -- i mean, there was no background check, nothing. a lady who got arrested lives in california. >> if she wasn't charged specifically with the kidnapping -- >> she was helping, you know, the intelligence service to kidnap me, and that was scary as well. >> the iranian as you were told by the fbi or somebody was going
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to put you in a boat. >> yes. >> where, here? >> here. they said that here, and take me to venezuela and then -- after that, i'm not the first person islamic republic trying to kidnap. one of the iranian journalists -- >> france. >> yeah, they tricked him from france to iraq. they kidnapped him from there, and they executed him. so when fbi actually told me that you're not allowed to travel abroad, i was like, oh, my god, i wish some police in france warned him and said, you're not allowed to go to iraq. so, you see, that breaks my heart that this is -- keep happening, for 40 years, but none of the government take serious action. >> do you feel safe this morning? >> to be honest, i see police around. i'm sure that they protecting me, but as far as the public in power, you are not safe. believe me.
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right now that i'm talking to you, the u.s. citizen, british citizen, swedish citizen, german citizen, french citizen are being hostage in the hands of iranian government and the government in iran using them like bargaining chip to bring the western government under the table about nuclear deal. and now they're trying to kidnap an american iranian citizen from new york to use me as a bargaining chip or, i don't know, execute me. >> do you know why specifically, other than your activism, they came after you? >> to be honest, i don't want to say that they're scared of me because my job is just giving voice to voiceless people. this is my job. i'm asking people to be their own story tellers. and i have 5 million followers on my instagram. i have 1 million on facebook. what i do is give voice to these people. i want to acwitually show that. i give voice to these mothers. look at their face. they lost a loved one.
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the iranian government killed 1500 protesters on last november protest, peaceful protest. they got killed. and these mothers never been heard in any media. so they send me videos, and i give them a voice. is this like crime? iranian women are forced to cover their hair. i have a big hair and i used to be forced -- >> great heair. >> i used to be foian women, if want to share your stories, send me photos. that's all i do as an activist. >> this plot to kidnap you and take you to iran and do god knows what to you, will this change your activism? >> not at all, you know why? because these mothers are my heroes. millions of iranians who share photos and videos of themselves practicing their civil disobedience, those are the rosa parks of iran. they are my hero. to be honest, i have fear inside me, but what gives me power, these people. i am going to stop my activities
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the day when iranian people stop saying no to islamic republic. >> the biden administration, in general, the justice department, whoever you are in contact with, do they make -- how do they make you feel about your safety and your position at this moment? >> the fbi did a great job to make me feel safe here, but to be honest, i'm a little bit disappointed with biden's administration because i'm still waiting for them to take strong action. when jamal khashoggi got brutally murdered, the whole world made statements of condemnations. i need the same, because another regime in the middle east, islamic republic, was trying to kidnap me. so that is why. i want biden administration to be strong instead of just going after them, having a deal with them, they have to care about human rights as well. >> i guess one more thing. how did they get the pictures of
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you? who did they use to get the pictures of you, do you have any idea? >> they hired someone, an american investigator, they gave money to him. the guy didn't know anything. actually, when i saw the picture of myself, i got goosebumps because i was watering my son's flowers. they took picture of my stepchildren. i don't want to scare them if they're looking at me. but they did, and they took picture of my husband. my husband was trying to make a joke. i'm a good looking person. >> he is a good looking guy sitting right there. >> thanks to him and my family here, they are really supportive. but i was shocked that they were following me, filming me. they were actually following my friends and taking old photos and videos to see which way i go every day. i'm not scared of being dead or being executed, but what scares me, that the whole world keeps silent about such a regime, and allowing them to have such an oppression in the united states of america. that is more scary.
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>> masah, i'm glad to see you this morning. i hope you get some rest and some peace. >> thank you for having me. i hope cnn will help iranian people who do not have a voice to be heard. >> we're there covering it a lot. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> amazing story. we'll be right back. not all 5g networks are created equal. it's clear to see. t-mobile is the leader in 5g. t-mobile. america's largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network.
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britney spears is back in court today in a high stakes hearing that could transform her case. the legal question looming here, can spears select and hire her own lawyer? spears, of course, is fighting to end that 13-year long conservatorship which she has described as, quote, abusive, and cnn's chloe is live for us in los angeles with more. chloe, so many people will be waiting to see what happens today. >> reporter: good morning, brianna. today is arguably the most important day in britney's nearly 13-year conservatorship. i'm standing here in front of the los angeles county superior courthouse where in just a few hours, britney is expected to appear virtually. ♪ >> reporter: just three weeks after britney spears made bombshell accusations during her testimony, she is set to speak in court once again. this time the hearing will hinge
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on whether the singer can choose her own attorney. for the last nearly 13 years, spears has had a court-appointed lawyer, samuel d. ingham. he submitted his petition to resign july 6. cnn has learned from a source close to the case that spears is in talks with prominent lawyer and former federal prosecutor matthew rosengart to represent her. he has worked with steven spielberg, winona ryder and jimmy butler. he had no comment when reached by cnn. >> what do we want? when do we want it? >> now. >> reporter: fans leading the free britney movement are avid for the pop star to retain her own counsel. >> if the judge doesn't allow britney the right to hire her own attorney, there is going to be public outrage. >> reporter: at least one family member agrees. in a court filing on july 1st obtained by cnn, spears' mother
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lynne spears asked the court to grant her wishes. her capacity is certainly different than in 2008. that's when the platinum artist experienced public meltdowns. following the resignation, the pop star conservator who handles medical decisions filed her own petition to appoint a guardian ad litem to aid the singer in finding an attorney. judge penny will have to deal with the co-conservator of the singer's $60 million estate. bessemer trust submitted the petition june 22nd. they had been recently appointed to work with the singer's father, jamie spears. ♪ ♪ during britney spears's hearing last month, she claimed that she had been forced to perform, take lithium, and remain on birth control against her will. her father has maintained to cnn
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that the conservatorship has done more good than harm, and that he's always acted in the best interests of his daughter. brianna, the judge could deny -- the judge could deny britney's request to retain her own attorney. you can imagine that is going to really upset her. we will be listening to what britney has to say virtually. i'll be in the courtroom. and you can imagine that's really going to upset the free britney movement and fans all over the world. >> yeah, and even people maybe who haven't been part of that movement, but have been, you know, that started paying attention to it for sure. so we'll be watching. chloe melas, thank you so much. not only are the arguments against covid vaccines politically driven and ill informed, they're old, very old. john avalon with a reality check. >> politicizing a pandemic is one of the dumbest things anyone can do. but that's what we've seen
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during the covid crisis. even now as vaccines have proven their effectiveness, saving as many as 279,000 lives according to research estimates, we still see roughly one-third of those eligible refusing to get vaccinated. and with the delta variant spreading like wildfire among the unvaccinated, we seem headed towards a wave of self-inflicted tragedies. vaccine hesitancy can have a lot of causes. under the broad umbrella is a specific strain of anti-vaxxers folks who tap into the paranoid style of science, we've seen it in the strange nexus between anti-vaxxers in qanon amplified in the stop the steal movement. we see it in anti-vaxx rants. maybe it gets in the way of nature's plan to kill the weakest among us. sometimes it takes the form of state policies like tennessee, trying to stop vaccine promotion among teens, not just for covid, but for other infections like
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hpv. but it turns out that a lot of these anti-vaccine themes are as old as vaccines themselves. so buckle up for a brief history of anti-vax conspiracy theories. let's start in the 1790s when small pox was combatted by an early vaccine. attacked by opponents, quote, a foreign assault on traditional order. sound familiar? check out this contemporary cartoon showing people turning into cows because the vaccine's use of cow pox as a way to inoculate against small pox. fast forward to 1885 during a deadly outbreak in montreal. they circulated this pamphlet decrying the tierney of doctor craft, the raveings of a mad press were pressuring parents into committing a crime against your innocent and helpless children by getting them vaccinated. check out this pamphlet cartoon kicker. should a working man be forced into vaccination by a police officer and doctor? claiming outrage on personal liberty.
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claiming there will be no work for those who don't have the mark of the beast on their bodies. it's there, the antiscience suspicions, religious overtones showing how covid anti-vaxxers are using centuries old arguments. the fear in the african-american community is real when men in alabama were suffering from syphilis and told they were receiving treatment, but secretly withheld it. dozens died. the distrust is rooted in real history. but the key point to remember is that medicine was withheld in the tuskegee experiment. receiving a simple dose of penicillin would have saved their lives. one milestone worth mentioning. andrew wakefield who published a paper in 1998 who showed a connection between vaccines and autism was proven with falsified data.
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he lost his medical license, but not before acquiring converts which led to an increase in rates and measles. it helped lay the groundwork for what we're seeing today, attempts to diminish the disease while playing up the dangers of the vaccines. all amplified by social media and hyper partisan politics. but as you can see, the struggle between science and superstition has been going on for centuries. science constantly evolves. superstitions strangely do not. follow the facts and not your fears because vaccines save lives, and that's your reality check. >> it's just undeniable at this point. john avalon, thank you for that and thank you for the history lesson. they are very important. one bit of information just in to cnn, you probably heard our interview with masah who said she was the target of an iranian kidnap plot and there were charges filed by the fbi yesterday. the iranian regime just after our interview issued a statement denying the charges that they
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tried or were involved in a plot to kidnap her. but you heard her story and you can take a look at the charges against the iranians for trying to put her on a boat, get her to venezuela and take her to iran to do god knows what. what a story. >> incredible interview i would encourage our viewers to revisit, john. cnn's coverage continues right now. ♪ ♪ good morning, everyone. so glad you're with us. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. new vaccinations dropping. the delta variant is surging. and misinformation, sadly, on the rise. the nation at a pivotal crossroads as new coronavirus infections jump across the country in 46 states. the rates of new infections this past week are at least 10% higher than the previous week. new cases per day doubling over the past three weeks nationwide. despite the staggering rise in cases, just over 48% of th

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