tv CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell CNN July 12, 2021 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
this endeavor. >> well, we can hope that. i just think, money, money, money. it's always about the bottom line so often down here on earth. leroy chiao, thank you so much for being with us. >> my pleasure, thanks. and thank you for joining me. see you back here at 1:00 tomorrow. in the meantime, follow me on twitter, @anacabrera. alisyn and victor are next. hello, everyone, thanks for joining us on "newsroom," i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell, good to be with you. we're starting with the delta variant. it is spreading quickly. there is an alarming increase in new covid cases. it's a sign of just how much of the country is heading in the wrong direction. the u.s. is averaging more than 19,000 new cases over the last 7 days. that's a 47% increase from the week before. and as cnn medical analyst says a third of those cases are coming from five hot spots, florida, louisiana, arkansas,
missouri, and nevada. >> the people most at risk, obviously, are the unvaccinated. according to the cdc, unvaccinated americans made up more than 99% of u.s. covid deaths in june. so, later today, drug maker pfizer will brief government officials on why they think it's time for a vaccine booster shot. now, last week, pfizer said it was already seeing waning immunity in people who received its vaccine more than six months ago, but the fda and the cdc disagree. they say there's no evidence that boosters are needed yet. >> cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is here with more now. elizabeth, this big debate now about whether we will need boosters and when we'll need them. let's start with the pfizer perspective. >> the pfizer perspective is that they say that they see immunity waning to two shots of their vaccine for some of the folks who have been vaccinated. that after about six months, they see it wane.
now, i think in the meeting that pfizer is going to have with anthony fauci and rochelle walensky and others this evening, they will have two things to explain. one, why did they think that? there's lots of evidence showing that it's -- that immunity is not waning. why do they think this? they have not pointed to any good, hard data yet. the other thing they'll have to explain, you know, pfizer kind of isn't reading the room. one-third of americans do not want to get vaccinated. they have not gotten vaccinated, and the public health system is trying to convince them to get vaccinated. the way to do that is not to tell them, get vaccinated, oh, and it's going to wane really quickly, by the way. that's not the way to do it. that is the exact opposite of the messaging that american public health officials are trying to do right now, and pfizer has really kind of hurt the effort. and so let's take a look at what the cdc and the fda says you should do, because i think everyone wants a bottom line here, and this is it. this is cdc and fda coming together, which hardly ever happens, saying, americans who
have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time. americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time. two caveats there. might we need one later? sure. it's possible. another thing is the people who are immune compromised, and you would know if you are, you're an organ transplant recipient, for example, you might benefit from a third shot. you should talk to your doctor. that is a very small number of people in the united states. >> so, elizabeth, tell us about this new survey that the census bureau did that compares unvaccinated rates in americans with their household incomes. >> i think there's been a lot of effort to figure out, all right, one out of three americans has chosen not to get vaccinated. what do we know about them so we can try public health messaging that will get through to them? the u.s. census bureau decided to look at vaccine data and compare it with household income data, and this is what they found. it's quite interesting. the median u.s. household income, according to census data, is almost $66,000 a year. but if you look at unvaccinated
people, more than half of them have a household income that is way less, only $50,000. that lets us know that lower income people are sort of have more of a tendency to say no to this vaccine. now, this is also interesting. if you look at people making under $50,000 who don't want to get vaccinated, 23% of them say they will at some point, definitely or probably get a vaccine. it's the richer folks, those making over $150,000, if they're not vaccinated, only 13% of them definitely or probably will get a vaccine. so there actually seems to be more kind of bendbility here for the folks who are at a lower income, and the reasons they don't want to get vaccinated, we've heard it before. they're afraid that there's some horrible side effect that doesn't actually exist, and sometimes they also just don't trust the government. victor, alisyn? >> all right, elizabeth cohen, thank you. let's stay there with the vaccinations and go to arkansas.
it has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country. and it may come as no surprise that the state is seeing another surge of new covid cases and hospitalizations. cnn's ppolo sandoval joins us from little rock, arkansas. let's start with why the state is lagging so far behind in vaccinations. >> reporter: you know, victor, only about a month ago, this state was doing pretty well. the government said they were winning the battle in terms of trying to contain the virus and increase vaccination numbers. one of the factors is that dealt variant that makes up many of the cases here in arkansas, but also, vaccination numbers that seemed to have stalled at about 35% so far. only about a third of arkansas's population is vaccinated. so, to answer your other question, government officials here, at least at the state level, are certainly trying to explore all options here. they are recognizing just recently that incentives like the lotto tickets and free fishing and hunting licenses
only got them so far so the republican governor here is going back to the basics and rolling out a series of town halls, these so-called covid conversations that he plans to participate in, in the coming days, so i want you to hear directly from governor asa hutchinson when it comes to what he wants to do in terms of trying to reassure the public that these vaccinations are safe, especially to some of his fellow republicans. >> there shouldn't be a partisan divide, first of all, but clearly, conservative is more hesitant about government authority. that's just the nature of it. and so, i think in southern states and some rural states, you have that more conservative approach, skepticism about government, and we just have to answer it just like we have all through history, that you overcome skepticism and mistrust by truth. >> reporter: and so the question, alisyn, how does he break that truth through this wall of skepticism, which is definitely not easy. the answer, obviously, those town halls. also by rolling out a public
service announcement. the department of health here actually sharing the story of some former skeptics and posting that online for other folks to consume. and then at the end of the day, the statistics. i want to share one that we actually learned while we were here over the weekend that shows that one of the hospital systems here, 95% of their severe covid cases are those who are not vaccinated, so ultimately, what you have here is the governor's going out and telling -- not necessarily telling people to get vaccinated, but telling them, this is why they should get vaccinated. when you consider that statistic, alisyn, well, that is clearly the answer. >> still, i mean, governor hutchison has his work cut out for him. polo sandoval, thank you very much. so this weekend, the conservatives held their big political conference in dallas, and they proudly flew their anti-vaccine flag so much so they almost sounded pro-covid. >> because clearly, they were hoping -- the government was hoping that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated, and
it -- and it isn't happening, right? younger people -- >> we're here to tell government, we don't want your benefits. we don't want your welfare. don't come knocking on my door with your fauci ouchie. you leave us the hell alone. >> now we're sort of talking about going door to door to be able to take vaccines to the people. the thing about the mechanisms they would have to build to be able to actually execute that massive of a thing, and then think about the -- what those mechanisms could be used for. they could go door to door to take your guns or bible. >> we've got republican governors across this country pretending they didn't shut down their states or close their beaches, that they didn't mandate masks, that they didn't issue shelter in places. i'm not picking fights with republican governors. all i'm saying is that we need leaders with grit. >> all right, joining us now, cnn political commentator scott jennings, also with us, cnn
national political reporter maif reston. let me start with you. i can't imagine this is good for the party. you've got sitting governors, members of congress, now sounding, as alisyn said, as if they're pro-covid. don't come to my door with your fauci ouchie? this is the party? >> we heard just a lot of that all weekend when i was at cpac in texas. this message over and over again that government as somehow, you know, moved into the role of big brother, and making that sound threatening to people as opposed to pushing a message that more people should get vaccinated. and it was really striking, over and over again, and you know, what we saw there at the end is governor kriste noem, who obviously is a potential 2024 contender, trying to find her lane in the potential field of
candidates by talking up how hands-off her approach was to covid in south dakota, mocking mask mandates and saying that other republican governors, her republican colleagues, were going to have to answer for the mandates that they put in place to keep people from dying, which was just a really stunning message, to me, but certainly one that, you know, that she felt was going to resonate with that audience there, and you know, when she came into the room, she got a standing ovation, and her message was very well received across the board. so, i mean, i think that's where the core activists of the party are right now. >> yeah. scott, i want to just play that mind-blowing -- another mind-blowing moment. we touched on it a minute ago. from cpac. so, not only is the message stunning, as maeve said, the response was mind-blowing. here are people cheering for low vaccination rates.
>> because clearly, they were hoping -- the government was hoping that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated. and it -- and it isn't happening. there's a -- younger people -- >> scott? scott, they are literally cheering for their own extinction, yay, we can get gravely ill. what is that? >> well, i think there's a conflation of two issues here. one, the idea that we're being suckered into taking a vaccine. i mean, that's an asinine comment. the vaccine is available and anyone who wants it can get it. i chose to be vaccinated myself and i think people should do that. so, the idea, to me, to promote the idea that we've been suckered into it, i think, is crazy. the other idea that was discussed this weekend was about the idea that the government would force you to do it or go door to door, which i think is a separate issue, and republicans are naturally sort of resistant to the idea that government would mandate you do anything, even take a vaccine, so to me,
it's two separate items. i think the government mandate on taking it is one. but the idea that americans are suckered into something, i mean, i would just remind my fellow republicans, it was donald trump and his administration that pioneered operation warp speed that led to the development of the vaccine as quickly as they did, so it's not like this is some sort of deep state or democratic coup here to get a vaccine to the market. people needed it. they wanted it. and we have it. and now anybody who wants it can get it and again, as i said, my personal choice is to get it and i think republicans should get it. >> yeah, and just to point out to people who are watching or listening, there is no government mandate to get it. so, while we hear from a congressman who says, if they come to your door for the information about the vaccine, they could come for your guns, they could come for your bibles, that is just out of hand. i mean, just ridiculous. to hear that from him. let me go to a broader question here, and i want to stick with you, scott. is this weekend good for your
party anymore? i mean, i went back and -- it tells you what my weekend was, watched old reagan speeches from cpac a few years ago and you could tell what the party was about, legislatively and politically. now you've got a former president lying, you've got the proud boys with congressmen, standing up and saying what we heard. is this good for republicans? >> i'm not sure it has a material impact on the future of the party from an electoral perspective. i mean, i think it's a place where, you know, prospective presidential candidates roll out messages, test messages. obviously what the activists in that room want to hear is different than what you would run, probably, in a general election campaign in 2024 so i don't know that it has a material impact on our ability to win back the white house. i do think this. if we're going to run a campaign in 2024 based on the idea that the vaccine, you know, we were suckered into it, which, by the way, was, i think, donald trump's biggest triumph, development of the vaccine, or
if we're going to run a 2024 campaign based on relitigating the 2020 election, which was also discussed, we are highly unlikely to win back sort of those former suburban republican leaners that went towards biden in the last election. i think we have a great chance to win the next two cycles, but we have to get back to the entire coalition, and some of what i heard this weekend wouldn't be germane to meeting that obligation or goal. >> maeve, speaking -- go ahead, quickly. >> not only the election integrity message was what dominated the entire weekend, like panel after panel after panel, and so to scott's point, if the republican party is trying to shape and craft an agenda going forward, the entire discussion right now is really about litigating the 2020 election, and you know, president trump capped that off with his speech at the end of the day, but also, you know, the many people that i have talked to there and also republican voters in iowa, they are not looking to move on from president trump at this point.
there was very little interest in those other prospective republican candidates that scott was talking about at this gathering, and person after person would just tell you that they want to see trump run again. and so, i just don't think that he's going anywhere as much as democrats would like him to. alisyn. >> and maeve, also, i just want to hit this note of, how he described -- how former president trump described what he saw on january 6th with the attack on the capitol and the lawmakers and the police there, what he describes, he uses the term, love. what he describes as love shows, i think, a deeply twisted perspective on love. here he is. >> there was such love at that rally. you had over a million people there. they were there for one reason, the rigged election. they felt the election was rigged. that's why they were there. and they were peaceful people. these were great people.
>> and just to remind people, let's show what president trump more than once referred to as love. here's his view of a loving crowd, maeve. >> yeah. and you know, his alternative reality that he has presented to this audience is one that a lot of republicans have just accepted at this point, and that was the other thing that was really clear throughout cpac this weekend. so, all of history is being rewritten now and it doesn't feel as though there are a lot of people standing up in the party saying, wait a second, that's not what happened. alisyn? >> maeve reston, scott jennings, thank you both for the perspective. great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> thank you. let's go to texas now where texas democrats have a plan to protest republicans' proposed voting restrictions. this time, they are leaving the state. find out where they're headed. and something not seen in
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there is breaking news out of texas. state house democrats are planning to leave the state today. >> these democratic lawmakers are trying to stop a controversial voting law while texas republicans are trying to push through new restrictions in this special legislative session that was called by the governor. cnn's jessica dean is on capitol hill with the details. jessica, we remember the democrats walked out last time to try to stop these voting restrictions. now what? >> reporter: well, now, it appears, alisyn and victor,
they're trying to do this again, and at this point, we don't know if their objectives here are to delay this and just try to make sure it never goes through, or are they trying to get changes to what they find objectionable in these proposed laws. we're going to hopefully find out more about that, but what we do know is that these house democrats from the state of texas are leaving the state of texas, coming here to washington, d.c., as they attempt to block a quorum and not allow a vote on these voting -- what they believe are bills that are going to make voting much harder in texas. this really places texas at the heart of this debate. remember, all through the last several months, we have seen various states enacting laws that are making voting harder in their states, and of course, here on capitol hill, democrats have been unable to do anything with s1, their bill, their voting rights legislation, zero republican support for that here in the u.s. senate. so, it will be interesting to see the texas democrats come here to washington, d.c. some of the things that they are
objecting to that are in some of these new bills are things that make early voting more difficult. one thing they really were against was a provision that would not allow early voting until 1:00 p.m. on sundays. that's when souls to the polls, when black churches will go vote en masse sometimes and take a lot of their congregation members to the polls, so it's things like that that they're upset about and trying to take a stand on. as you guys mentioned, republicans there in texas really want to see this move forward. the governor calling this about election integrity and calling them back for a special session, in part, to deal with this. so, the question becomes, alisyn and victor, how long can this go on? and again, what exactly -- how does this play out once they get here to d.c.? we shall see. >> yeah, and what they hope to accomplish in d.c. but we know you'll be covering it for us. thank you, jessica. so, a few minutes ago the white house said it is too early to determine if the u.s. policy toward cuba will change in light of its protests. they say, though, that the u.s.
is looking into how to help the cuban people directly. thousands of people marched in the streets on sunday in a rare demonstration of protest across the country. >> they say they are fed up with the lack of freedom and the lack of food and medicine and other basic supplies as covid-19 cases explode in that country. cuba's president blames the protests and the economic hardship on the u.s. government and the sanctions still in place from the trump real estate. cnn's patrick oppmann is in havana. patrick, describe what you're seeing today. >> reporter: you know, it's very difficult to get a picture today. unlike yesterday where social media was just ablaze with images, not only here in havana but in small towns far across this island of people taking to the streets and protesting in a way that cubans never have before. it's beyond rare, it really is unprecedented in the history of the revolution. and today, because there is an internet blackout, it appears, as the government has done
before, that the internet has been taken down in large parts of this island, so we're having trouble connecting and cubans, we are hearing, the ones that we are able to get through to, they're having a lot of trouble posting images online, so we don't know if, as the government says, things are peaceful today or if there are people trying to protest as they did yesterday, but for months now, there has been a sense of increasing tension because of the pandemic, because of sanctions, because of frustrations with their own government, and many of us have wondered, how long can people put up with hours every day without electricity, with going to the store, waiting in line for the better part of a morning into late afternoon to find out that everything has been sold in government run supermarkets and just a life seemingly getting worse and worse. and the government today, while the president came out and spoke directly to people on television here, there was no sense of -- or no plan of how things will get better. this island remains very much
cut off during the pandemic, and people have made it very clear that they are frustrated and for the first time in many people's lives, they are not afraid to go out and speak about it and protest and make their frustration heard. >> yeah, patrick, you told us a bit about how covid has affected the economy there and the people. do we know about these sanctions that were placed during the trump administration, not lifted yet during the biden administration, why they're still in place? >> reporter: they're the toughest sanctions in decades, really, and i think the hardest one for many people is that remittances, billions of dollars, billions with a "b" of dollars that float in every year from the u.s., from south florida, have been cut off. it's just impossible now to get hard currency, which is what people need to survive on. the black market, it's all u.s. dollars or euros, and if people can't receive that money from their faemilies, they can't eat and the biden administration has said they're studying if they
should lift any of these sanctions. some people speculate they simply don't want to anger the cuban-american community in florida that certainly did not vote as the biden administration had hoped they would the last election, but as of today, the biden policy is exactly the same as the trump policy. there have been no changes to these very punishing sanctions that not only hurt the government but hurt cuban people. >> patrick oppmann, thank you for explaining all of that from havana. right now, president biden is holding a meeting to deal with the surge of gun violence and crime across this country. we'll have details of his proposals and plans that's coming up next.
president biden is meeting right now with attorney general merrick garland and local leaders to discuss a plan to reduce crime and gun violence. >> we recognize that we have to come together to fulfill the first responsibility of a democracy. that's keep each other safe. that's what the american people are looking for when it comes to reducing violent crime and gun violence, and i think this group is illustrative of what we need to get put together. >> gun violence is surging across the united states. listen to this. this weekend alone, more than
360 shootings were reported in the u.s. 125 people were shot and killed. the gun violence epidemic is creating a huge problem for police departments and city leaders. cnn chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins is with us now. the president says he has a plan to deal with the growing crisis of gun violence. what do you know about it? >> reporter: well, really, what he talked about there at the beginning of this meeting as they convened these officials here at the white house was the way that the federal government, they believe, can help these local communities try to address it themselves, and the levers that they can pull when it comes to that. and it is acknowledgment that, of course, the numbers that you just cited, that this is an issue, and so what president biden is talking about in the room with those officials today is how they can help them take these steps, and there are measures that you have heard them talk about repeatedly here at the white house, nothing really new coming out today when you hear from president biden and from his top aides on what they're trying to achieve out of this. things like they've pushed encouraging these local
jurisdictions to use coronavirus relief funds to staff up police departments, pay police officers overtime, things like that, but when it comes to what they can actually do on a bigger federal level, it seems pretty limited, given, of course, we've seen on capitol hill the president's calls for gun control legislation have gone unheeded. there is very little appetite for any kind of bipartisan gun control bill that would come out of any of these discussions that we've seen happen on capitol hill, so they're taking these steps by saying, look, we are talking about this, at least, we are convening these people here at the white house. it is really notable that eric adams the democratic mayoral candidate, is someone who was invited by the white house to this meeting, not just because, of course, he is in new york and is a former police chief but because he is a very tough on crime democrat who has pushed back on those progressive calls to defund the police, saying that is not the route that we should be taking to combat things like this gun violence that we have seen, and citing those numbers that you just did there, victor, and it's also an acknowledgment from the white house that that could politically be an issue for them as republicans try to portray
biden as soft on crime, they are trying to use meetings like this one today to push back, even though the actual idea of any federal major significant effort like legislation here seems really unlikely at this point. >> kaitlan collins, thank you. so, as kaitlan mentioned, the winner of the new york city democratic mayoral primary, retired nypd captain eric adams is at the meeting right now and he's going to join us in the next hour to discuss his exclusion to rising crime and much, much more. racist abuse aimed at three black soccer players is under investigation after england lost to italy in a game watched by fans around the world. we'll tell you more about that. i know a thing or two about cars.
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london metropolitan police is now investigating what they describe as unacceptable racist abuse of three members of england's football team on social media. three black players are being attacked for missing penalty kicks in the final game with italy, and the abuse expands beyond online. >> yeah, a mural of marcus radford was vandalized after the game. fans, though, as you can see, are now covering the damage with hearts and messages calling him a hero. there is widespread condemnation of the racist attacks, including from prince william, who says he is, quote, sickened by it. >> cnn "world sport" contributor
darren lewis is with us now live from london. thank you for being with us. unfortunately, the sport is not new or this racial abuse is not new to the sport, but what now is the association doing about it? >> reporter: well, there isn't much they can do, victor. i wish i could tell you about the raft of measures that they're trying to bring in place to see -- to ensure that this doesn't happen again, but the truth is that it's the responsibility of the social media companies, and there simply doesn't appear to be a will with the social media companies to address the issue. football people here in england and even in the wider society have been calling on social media companies to do far more for a sustained period of time, and the help simply hasn't come. the abuse that the players had yesterday, i would suggest, is a symptom of something much bigger in this country here in the uk. i saw nic robertson's report
about the post-brexit tensions. there have been tensions in this country ever since brexit. there have been divisions in this country ever since the election of a prime minister who has used racially offensive language. we are a divided nation. even the response to the mural that was defaced featuring marcus radford kind of sums up the division in this country. some people find it acceptable to use racially offensive language towards black men, but other people say, no, we're not going to accept it. we're going to push back against it. we're going to show our support and our love. we are a divided country. this is not about football. >> and darren, we can relate in the u.s. we know those same tensions are happening here, but i think that you make a great point. it's multifaceted, particularly the social media aspect of it. people can say all sorts of hideous, racist stuff anonymously under the cover, the veneer of social media, that they would never say to someone's face. and so, i don't know how police
are supposed to police that, though the metropolitan police say they'll try. but to your point, social media companies need to figure that out. >> they do indeed. and they have had a lot of time to do it but they keep coming up with the same responses. we have removed 1,000 pieces of hate speech. that's not good enough. if you can remove the president of the united states from social media, you can remove racist abuse. if you can stop covid misinformation appearing on social media, you can deal with abuse directed at men and women on the basis of the color of their skin. we should not be having this conversation, guys, in 2021. it's ridiculous. your viewers must think it's ridiculous. but it is a sad reality, because on both sides of the atlantic, we have seen division, and we have seen that division stoked by people in leadership. that's why we are where we are, and that, unfortunately, is why so many people on both sides of
the atlantic, i would suggest, feel empowered to say the kind of thing that black -- young, black men in this country are facing right now. >> yeah, darren lewis, thank you for the reporting on that. it's just sickening, and i think that obviously, it helps every time, you know, a prince william or prince harry from here or some sort of big figure speaks out but it doesn't seem to be quelling the problem. >> no, no, i don't think it is quelling the problem, but i think you made a good point that we know on this side of the atlantic exactly what that is, and darren's point, that there's an overlap between what we're seeing in football and what we're seeing politically there and the brexit, that there is a strain that continues from one to another, and it's so interesting how deep voices are online when you won't show your face, that they won't say that in-person. >> for sure. >> there's a lot of bass in voices online. all right, meanwhile, billionaire richard branson beat billionaire jeff bezos in the race to space. what does that mean for the rest
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top of the hour now, good to be with you. >> we begin with breaking news on one of the covid vaccines cnn has confirmed that the fda is investigating the possibility that the one doze johnson & johnson shot raises the risk of a rare auto immune disease. cnn senior medical correspondent joins us now. what have you learned? >> we have gotten a statement
from the u.s. centers for disease control, the cdc and fda take in reports when something doesn't go quite right after vaccination and sometimes those reports mean nothing but they are paying close to these reports after receiving the johnson & johnson vaccine. you'll remember that's the one dose vaccine. the cdc is telling us they have received, these are the basics of what it is. about 3 to 6,000 people in the u.s. develops it each year. it happens would you tell us vaccination. very rarely it can end in paralysis. most people fully recover. let's look at what the cdc is telling us now. they are