tv New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar CNN July 12, 2021 4:00am-5:00am PDT
keep playing. >> i have heard one fun solution. every few minutes you take one person off the field on each team and end up with a five on five on a giant field. that might be fun. you can't have those guys run to exhaustion. might end up with pretty poor soccer at that point. >> i want a dollar for every time i hear bermen complain about the penalty kick ending. i'm sure you're not alone. it irks him majorly. >> thank you for caring. i appreciate it. "new day" continues right now. ♪ >> hello, i'm brianna keilar alongside john berman on this new day. the delta variant rising in america and so is the debate over a booster shot. we will speak with an investigator from the pfizer trial. dangerous demagoguery. why the lies and conspiracies fedled at cpac are now risking american lives. plus, why more and more liberals are rising up against wokeness in american society. and we'll speak to the mayor
of one city whose city is now the first in the nation to charge gun owners for gun violence. is that even legal? ♪ welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world, it is monday, july 12th. right now the delta variant is spreading in the u.s. as pfizer is set to brief government health officials today on a possible covid-19 booster shot. the company said last week that there is waning immunity to the virus among people who received its two-dose vaccine. but that announcement has confused a lot of people as federal guidance that fully vaccinated people don't need a booster right now is not expected to change. >> there are studies being done now on going as we speak about
looking at the feasibility about if and when we should be boosting people. so this isn't something that we say, no, we don't need a boost right now. the story has ended forever. no, there's a lot of work going on to examine this in realtime to see if we might need a boost. but right now, given the data, that the cdc and the fda has, they don't feel we need to tell people right now you need to be boosted. >> maybe at some point but not yet. and this discussion comes as coronavirus cases are rising in the united states, particularly in the southeast where vaccination rates are lagging for at least four consecutive days now the u.s. has recorded more than 20,000 new cases a day. >> and joining us now to discuss this is dr. steven thomas, the coordinating principal investigator rt pfizer covid vaccine trial. doctor, great to have you with us. just to be clear for our viewers, you don't work for pfizer, you collaborated on its trial. but what do you think that pfizer is going to say here?
>> first of all, good morning and thanks for having me. well, i expect they're going to go over three pieces of information. the first is they're going to look at the longer-term safety data that is now available. so you may recall these studies started almost a year ago. so, there's more safety data that they can look at. the second is they're going to look at immune responses. primarily antibody responses. so they're going to look at what the peak responses were, they're going to look at how these responses have changed over time or deck ramts over time. the third thing is the real world experience. how is the vaccine working out in different countries. they'll talk about the israeli experience and the experience in the uk. and then they'll take all this information together and have a discussion about the rational for whether or not a booster is going to be immeneeded based on information they have now and if so when do you think it will be needed. >> when do you think it might be
needed? >> based on the information that i have seen, i would be very surprised if a booster dose was going to be needed at six months or even at 12 months. but again, as dr. fauci had mentioned, you know, we can only make judgments based on the data that's available. that's a constant process of pfizer and the other vaccine developers providing this data to the regulators, the f-da and the united states so this can be an on going discussion and people can make informed decisions. >> so, right now we're seeing the delta variant and cases surging in israel and surging in the uk. what we are not seeing, though, is deaths following that. i wonder, as you look at those numbers, what you think that translates to for the u.s. >> so we're seeing cases rising in more than 20 states in the united states and unfortunately where those cases are rising the vaccination rates are very low.
when we look at at least the numbers from june and may, more than 95% of the people who have died from covid were unvaccinated. the other information that we're seeing is that even against the variants, these vaccines are very effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death. so, to me, the narrative is the same as it's always been. if you want to protect yourself from covid f you want to protect yourself from bad outcomes from covid, get vaccinated. >> i want to get your reaction, you know, someone obviously who values vaccines and really the miracle of this one in particular has provided us, i want to get your reaction to something that happened at cpac, the conservative conference over the weekend. >> because clearly they were hoping, the government was hoping, that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated. and it isn't happening. right? there's a -- [ applause ]. >> younger people -- >> cheers for the country
missing its vaccination goal. what do you think about that? >> what i think is this virus does not care where you live. it doesn't care who you voted for. it doesn't care what color your state is on any kind of political map. it is still out there. it is still circulating. you can get infected if you're not vaccinated and it can kill you. so i think people should take a step back, look at the bigger picture and see what we're trying to achieve here which is to prevent human suffering and go back to the society that we used to have around 2019. >> yeah. we all want to be back to normal. dr. stephen thomas, thank you. cnn's -- so you just heard that moment from cpac. cnn's donie o'sullivan was there this weekend. and he joins us now live from dallas. donie, what did you see? >> reporter: hey, john. yeah, it was very much the trump show here in town this weekend. we spoke to a lot of people,
probably 20 or 30 people. every single one of them, pretty much everybody, believed that both the election was stolen and also lies about the insurrection. i mean, it is quite sad when speaking to so many folks who have bought into this conspiracy theory about the election, which is now undermining their faith in american democracy. so many folks told us as well that they might not trust the results of the next year's mid term elections and one other thing, john, i think really sort of illustrates where i guess the republican party is right now is we were -- spent a lot of time both inside and outside the event. there is so many guys dressed up in sort of tactical gear. we saw guys wearing badges from the three percenters militia group allegedly involved in the insurrection and proud boys walking around the place as well. so this was a political conference in name but you had these guys dressed up like they were ready to go to war. john? >> donie, stand by for a moment
if you will. i know you have some sound from interviews you did over the course of the weekend that's really reveal mchg what i want to do right now is talk to bill crystal the director of defending democracy together. bill, i really appreciate you joining us. look, there's a lot to discuss from cpac but i want to start with the vaccination thing and play it one more time because you have a crowd of republicans, conservatives cheering low vaccination rates. listen. >> because clearly they were hoping, the government was hoping, that they could sort of sucker 90% of the population into getting vaccinated. and it isn't happening. right? there's a -- [ applause ]. >> younger people -- >> i mean, is this rooting for people to die, bill? >> yeah, good morning, john. it's pretty horrifying. i do want to say first, you're absolutely right about the penalty kicks. do not let brianna ridicule you or shame you out of your true position they should keep
playing until someone scores legitimate goal. getting on to more serious things, maybe that is the most serious thing. you gotten 27,000 emails attacking you for not understanding that penalty kicks are the greatest thing ever or whatever. i'm with you on that, john. look, on the vaccine it's horrifying. i never thought we would see a big movement more irresponsible than they've been on the election denial and therefore what that implies with the attack on voting rights and the attempt to lay the ground work for subverting the next election. vaccines, large part of the conservative movement is even worse. they're encouraging behavior that will make people sick, kill some people and keep the vaccine alive in the country which ultimately endangers young people, people under 12 who don't have the vaccine yet, and the rest of us because at some point the stronger the virus is the more the variants could spread and more can come to exist the more we're ultimately in danger. i think people need to be tougher on this.
dr. thomas is very good on this. we have to encourage people to do more is what a lot of people are saying, we have to make the case. i don't know. i think we need to think about something close to mandating it or making benefits dependent on it or making admission to all kinds of places whether it's schools, universities, airlines, facilities. contingent on being vaccinated. it really is ridiculous for us to be tolerating what is now something that we wouldn't tolerate. we make people wear seat belts, we have speed limits, we make kids show their vaccination card when they come from their doctor and enroll in elementary or secondary school and we're just sort of letting this mass irresponsibility happen. but again, whatever we can do about it, you have an entire political movement fostering this really damaging -- i don't know what to call it, view. >> look, they also -- they booed fauci. lock him up, all that kind of stuff, with fauci. i understand the need among some people to create billings.
but the cheering for low vaccination rates again, it's as if they're rooting for covid. i just never thought i would see something like that. >> it's right, john. look, during the height of it, there were some arguments, not very good ones, but some arguments that we should be friendlier to opening up, a little less constraining in terms of covid. those were sort of policy disputes how fast you open up. how much do you insist on masking and so forth outdoors. you know, there was at least some arguments on the other side. there's no argument here. as you say, this is simply denying the science, encouraging terrible irresponsibility both to themselves and ultimately to others. >> now, on a related front, and i really don't think it's completely disconnected, the former president spoke and he used the word love to describe the people involved in the insurrection. repeatedly. speaking fondly of those who
overran the capitol. your take? >> yeah. trump has moved from being apologetic to attacking those who attacked the insurrection to helping block and encouraging blocking of true investigations of the insurrection to now just rooting for the insurrection. and some chunk of the republican party and the conservative movement have gone with him at a huge chunk of the republican party and conservative elites are legit mating that and quiet about it and not speaking back against the president. this is a terrible thing in terms of both because it's, of course, false, and for what it encourages in the future in terms of election subversion and going forward. it is pretty amazing. again, trump is -- if you said six months ago it would be leading this show quite appropriately talking about a trump speech to cpac, former president who lost. when has that happened? he has been brilliant in a certain way in establishing
control of the party. he launches these ridiculous legal suits that aren't going to win in court. the election suits didn't win. but it forces people to respond and the party has rallied around him. to a degree that's really extraordinary. >> right. i have to let you go, bill, but my last question here is charlie de dent, former republican congressman, called what we saw at cpac a side show. i'm not sure it's a side show. it may be a main event. >> i love charlie dent. if the republican party were charlie dent's republican party, i would be thrilled and therefore charlie wants to believe frankly it's a side show. people should work to make it a side show. for now i'm afraid it's the main show. it's the main tent of the circus. it's the main circus tent and it's a very dangerous one. there's a tendency to say it's whacky. they're dressed up funny and saying incredible things. it is not funny. it is dangerous.
>> could very well cost lives on several different fronts whether from violence on the streets to vaccines. bill crystal, appreciate you being with us this morning. >> thank you, john. donie o'sullivan was there and had a chance to talk to many people in attendance. listen. >> do you accept he lost the election? >> i accept that on paper things happened to make it appear that way. i don't know what would have happened. i find it very questionable that he lost given the support that he had. >> do you think what happened on january 6th was a stain on trump's presidency? >> absolutely not. yeah. he didn't invoke any kind of violence. he didn't say anything that was making -- that was all just -- just honestly ridiculous. a few people acted out out of millions of people that attended. i wouldn't say millions. but close to a million. >> yes, i would. i'm a trump supporter. >> yeah? >> yeah. >> do you accept that he lost the election? >> yeah, he did lose the
election, but we believe -- i believe there are some discrepancies and those will be revealed at some point. >> what are you hoping to hear from trump? >> that he is going to regain his rightful seat as president. >> in 2024? >> no. >> when? >> as soon as the election is overturned for the election fraud. >> do you guys think the election was fair? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> they tried to tell us the county election we went blue for the first time since 1962. it's not called an insurrection to me. what about it was an insurrection? >> they stormed the capitol. >> who? >> who is they? >> the trump supporters, right? >> [ bleep ]. i'm sorry. [ bleep ]. you don't know who those people were. >> some trump supporters were invited in and there's video and there's audio that they said come on in. >> reporter: so, a lot to unpack there, john.
you did hear from one woman who mentioned that trump could come back before 2024. and we know that was a concern of the department of justice last week who said, you know, this sort of talk, this fantasy that he could be reinstated into office before 2024, somehow that the election could be overturned that there was concerns that could provoke further violence. most people we spoke to at cpac this weekend did not believe that this reinstatement thing would actually work out. most are focussed on looking towards 2024. but john, pretty much everybody we spoke to believed the election was stolen. >> it can be a dangerous thing, donie. i know you say it's a minority. anyone say they think the former president will be reinstated it's an alarming thought. thank you for your work and being down there. a state of emergency begins today in tokyo, less than two weeks ahead of the olympics. how will this affect the games? plus, president biden fired the head of the social security
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♪ a state of emergency is going into effect today in tokyo as the country experiences a spike in new coronavirus cases just days before the start of the olympics. cnn's will ripley is live in toex owe with more. will? >> reporter: brianna, this is tokyo's fourth state of emergency since the pandemic began, but we're now less than two weeks away from the opening ceremonies on july 23rd. and the vibe here, i've been to a few olympics in my time, it's nothing like anything i've ever experienced. like the torch relay, for example, they've taken the torch relay off public streets so that people can't line the sidewalks to cheer on the torch.
they moved to areas with only a handful of officials and family and friends of the torch bearers themselves allowed to witness it. 97%, more than that, of the olympic events will be held without spectators. so these multibillion dollar venues that japan has built are going to sit empty and the vips, sponsors and olympic officials and journalists allowed to actually enter these venues during the competitions would probably hear their own echo when they applaud it. there was a big storm that moved in here yesterday. we're kind of standing at one of the main locations in front of the olympic rings. in a matter of minutes just the skies lit up. there was lightning. there was thunder. and there was a lot of chatter on japanese social media that this storm was a metaphor for what is to come because japan's case numbers are surging. they have 15% of their population vaccinated, and starting now, and in the coming days, you're going to have thousands of people from hundreds of countries arriving with the delta variant spreading
like wild fire in many of these places. people here in japan who overwhelmingly according to public polls didn't want the olympics to happen and wonder if they'll pay the price. >> it is hard to see how those fears are not founded. will ripley, thank you so much for covering the games for us. so this morning, a government standoff in washington. president biden fired the social security commissioner after he failed to resign after the president requested, but a holdover from the trump administration refuses to step down, questioning whether biden has the power to dismiss him. and he plans to show up for work this morning. cnn's arlette saenz is live at the white house. any sign of him yet? >> reporter: no word yet on if andrew soul reporting to work. the 2350ired commissioner of the social security administration is questioning the president, the legality of the president's decision to fire him, but a white house official tells me
this morning that they believe the president has the authority to fire officials like saul due to supreme court precedent. saul said he would sign in remotely from his home in new york. so one question is, whether he will even still be able to access the social security system despite being fired. and just to show you how quickly the administration moved to replace him, take a look at the organizational chart on the social security website. it was updated on saturday, one day after he had been fired and already lists kilolo as the acting commissioner, just how ea eager the administration is to move on. they have not responded to saul's threat to report to work despite being fired. but explaining their decision to fire saul, commissioner saul has undermined and politicized social security disability
benefits and taken other actions that run contrary to the mission of the agency and the president's policy agenda. but republicans have been quick to pounce on this move, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell calling this unprecedented and dangerous politicization of the social security administration. so we will see whether there's any actual showdown heading in a little bit later today. >> arlette saenz, thank you very much. keep us posted. up next, the rise of the anti-woke democrats. why some in the party think that wokeness has gone too far. plus, how one california city wants to make gun owners pay for gun violence. not all 5g networks are created equal. it's clear to see. t-mobile is the leader in 5g. t-mobile. america's largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network.
attorney general and local law enforcement leaders to discuss his plan to reduce the rise in gun violence facing some stis across the country. eric adams, the democratic nominee for mayor of new york city and former police captain will also be there. in a new interview, adams shared this message to members of his own party about what he thinks his victory as one of the more moderate candidates means. >> we can't be so idealistic that we're not realistics. we have allowed the fallout of the trump administration to have an overreach in philosophy and not on the ground. real issues that are facing everyday new yorkers. >> is it fair to call you an anti-woke democrat. >> no. some of us never went to sleep. that's the problem. >> joining us now kirsten powers, usa today columnist and david gregory, cnn political analyst. that message from eric adams, david, what do you think? >> you know, i think it's telling the party something
important. here you have the likely mayor -- the next mayor of new york. and the democratic standard bearer of certainly an epicenter of liberal activism in the party saying, hold on. let's take a look at what the president of the united states, the leader of the national democratic party, did to get elected. he was more pragmatic, he was in many ways more moderate. he galvanized the base of the party with that message. let's be very careful about how we're being defined. i think a lot of liberals may want to debate the facts of the matter, may want to have the debate over aspects of racism, police reform, voting rights, all of these are legitimate issues. it's a question of democrats, like an eric adams, saying how are democrats being defined right now in the mirror? are we losing control of that message? are we losing control of the debate. >> that's an interesting construction, how they are being defined. kirsten, what do you think?
>> well, i think a couple things. first of all, adams actually did say that in a separate interview he wouldn't consider himself anti-woke. so, the second thing i would say is the word woke has been really misappropriated and does not mean the same thing that it originally was supposed to mean. so it's out of the black vernacular, it is something used by black activists and it just means to be awake. it's been misappropriated by the right and i think system dem some democrats are doing it now, to turn it into a boog byman word. that's not really what it was. it was meant for black people to say stay awake to fact that there's white supremacy. so i think we need to be careful how we use that term. it's not a pa jurortive. i think that's something to bear in mind. the second thing i would say is, yes, absolutely joe biden was the most moderate candidate.
he also moved to the left on issues. and he was moved there by liberals, right? in particular in talking about policing and in talking about race. and so, i don't think these things are mutually exclusive. the defund the police, which is probably what eric adams was referring to, is not the position of the democratic party. so, it's fine for liberal activists, i think, to push for that because that's what lib rag activists are supposed to do. lib rag activists are supposed to push in the position and the party can decide whether they should adopt or not. i don't think democrats should get involved in the anti-woke thing. it's something that's really been driven by the right. >> david? >> yeah. i mean, i don't -- i have a slightly different view. i think it's possible to parse these things out. and i wouldn't disagree with what kirsten is saying. it's not just the right that's driving this. there's plenty of people who are not actively in politics.
might be suburban voters. might be allies on any number of these issues who don't understand the sea they're swimming in anymore. ask people who work in organizations where they're making good faith efforts toward d.e.i. work, where they struggled. it leaves people with lots of questions and disagreements within a party. i think there's a difference between biden. i think kirsten is right but he attacked left. i don't think he's become fundamental left. he knows he has to deal with the fallout of rising crime. this is a party that should be right now wanting to run on a very strong post covid response and post covid economy. they don't want to be dragged into this. again, i'll agree with kirsten's parsing of this, but i'm not sure that's how people are taking it all in, where they understand what's the boogieman and what's not. the left will say let's not
campaign on trump but zero in on the excesses of the left. >> i guess two questions here, kirsten. is it fair and is it working? >> say that again? >> is it fair? is it fair, is the criticism fair of the left part of the democratic party, a, and b, is it working? those are two different questions. >> yeah. i don't know. no, i honestly don't think the criticism is really very accurate. i think that it's sort of this -- i do think it is -- what happens is you have the right and they run with these issues. it's like this attack they're doing on critical race theory that is untethered from reality, right? and then, yes, as david said, suburban voters get confused because they're hearing all this stuff. but it's not actually accurate. just because people are hearing things and they believe it doesn't make it accurate. so i think as people in the media, we have a responsibility to try to help people understand what's actually going on. and so, i would say the one thing that wasn't helpful was
probably defund the police. you can make an argument that wasn't helpful in terms of politics. however, it was never the position of the democratic party. so, that again is where the right has taken something and said it caused a lot of confusion and made people think it was the position. it's also something that was never really accurate explained in the media because it's not actually as crazy as people want to make it seem. so, you know, i think that -- i just think that we have to do a better job of explaining this kind of stuff and not let the far right define these issues and ignore what they actually mean. and i don't think that biden hasn't -- you say tact left. in terms of voting rights, he actually has very much taken the position of the left. i think in terms of a lot of issues frankly i don't think he would have been elected. so i think sometimes we say that these things are far left when they're actually supported by a majority of americans. if you don't attach some label to it that's been completely
disconnected from what it actually means. it just means to be aware that there's white supremacy and be aware that there's oppression in the world. and there's nothing wrong with that. >> all right, david gregory, kirsten powers, i promise you we'll have this discussion again soon. thank you again very much. up next, the tough new rules for gun owners in san jose. will they stand up in court? plus, american optimism, the highest it's been in more than a decade. harry enten tells us what is driving those numbers. ♪ [relaxed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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to buy liability insurance and to pay an annual fee to cover the cost of police and medical services after shootings. joining us now is sam la car doe and one of the new law's biggest champions. mayor, thank you so much for being with us. just tell us why you think this is going to work. >> well, thanks, brianna. certainly the second amendment protects the right of every american to possess a gun. but it doesn't mandate that we taxpayers subsidize gun owners. and we know through insurance and payment of fees we can compensate the public for the cost responding to gun violence and most importantly we can compensate those who are injured and families who lost loved ones. this is going to be a critical approach that will need a lot of other solutions as well because we know, although there is a vaccine that can perhaps solve a problem with a single virus, you know, a gun epidemic that is
taken hold in a country with 300 million guns is not subject to a single pansy. we need a lot of solutions. >> what's the point? will this reduce gun violence? >> yeah, absolutely. what we have seen, for example, in the case of insurance with automobile driving, is that using risk adjusted premiums insurance companies can encourage safer driving, they can encourage car owners to be able to use as we saw in the past air bags and bbs brakes and so forth. similarly with guns, we live in a country where 4.5 million children live in a home where a gun is kept load and unlocked. trigger locks, these are all things that can make us safer and insurance can play a role in incentivizing gun owners to be safer. >> car ownership is not protected by an amendment in the constitution. you're going to have legal challenges to this. critics are going to say, look, this is imposing a financial
penalty for exercising a constitutional right. what do you say to that? >> certainly in the realm of reasonable gun regulation, no good deed goes unlitigated. we expect there will be a lot of lawsuits and lawyers. but what we know is that we've had federal excised tax on guns since 1919. we know lots of constitutional rights which we ordinarily expect to pay fees. newspapers are engaged in a core first amendment right and the supreme court has said that states can certainly tax newspapers. >> critics are saying gun owners of california, they say you bring up the freedom of the press basically, this would be like steam rolling the first amendment by mandating the media carry such insurance. >> yeah. i don't think so. for example, if anyone needs to exercise any of their rights in court, and exercise their seventh amendment right to a civil jury, they have to pay a fee to the courthouse staff. nothing in the constitution says all these rights are free.
they simply say the government cannot impose unreasonable restrictions. >> there are many gun owners, responsible gun owners, who favor measures that you would certainly support and that democrats support, things like background checks or, you know, limiting high capacity magazines. do you have any concerns that you're going to alienate them with a measure like this? >> no. look, we've been waiting for congress to enact many sensible reforms like, for example, reinstituting assaults weapons ban that hasn't existed at least federally for nearly two decades. we can't continue to wait for congress to enact to impose these reasonable measures. we're seeing mayors throughout the country step forward and saying we're not willing to continue to wait. we have to protect our communities. >> when do you think you'll see a legal challenge? >> as soon as the ordnance is wholly drafted and approved and i expect we'll have a lot of lawyers coming at us. good news is we have great
organizations and plenty of lawyers willing to do this really for pro bono on their own because they recognize the importance of this. >> mayor, we will keep talking to you about this. i'm sure this is the beginning of this story. mayor liccrardo, thank you so much. massachusetts police sergeant retiring best known for taking on the two terrorists behind the boston marathon bombing. polo sandoval has more with the officer who went beyond the call of duty. >> yeah, here we go. right here. those are from bullets and damage to the fence. >> reporter: jeff spent more than 40 years policing the streets of watertown, massachusetts. >> there's another one through there. >> reporter: at the end of may, this lifelong lawman had no choice but to hang up his sergeant's hat after reaching the state's mandatory retirement age of 65. [ applause ]. >> reporter: as recent as his last road call and going back to iz early dates as a military police officer, he answered
every call during his career but the one that led him into east watertown that made the world notice his reputation for going beyond the call of duty. >> shots fired. shots fired. all units respond. >> reporter: he was heading home from his shift when he heard fellow officers involved in a shootout with a couple of suspected carjackers. he raced towards the chaos and mini van as they fired bullets and hurls bombed at watertown officers. >> it was right about here where one of the pipe bombs went off. >> reporter: the officers had no idea they pinned down the two brothers behind the deadly boston marathon bombing just four days before. >> we're exchanging gunfire back and forth. so, that's when i decided, i'm going to cut through some backyards and flank them. >> reporter: once within firing distance. >> where that tree is, is whereabout he was. >> reporter: he took aim at one of the terrorists and fired. >> when he realized he was hit,
he came running up the street between this car -- this wasn't a car at the time, and this chain link fence and he's on the other side of the fence and we're exchanging gunfire this close. >> reporter: he hit his target nine times, yet every one of the bullets the bomber fired at him missed. he then tackled the bomber, before seeing headlights. it was the younger brother coming straight for them. >> i grabbed the older brother by the belt and tried to drag him, but the car was going so fast that, you know, i didn't have a chance to pull him out of the road. he just barely missed my head. >> reporter: he received a medal of valor and other top honors for helping end a terrorist spree and testified in the younger brother who was found guilty. harrowing events of the watertown takedown were immortalized in the film patriots' day. actor jk simmons playing the role of the sergeant. >> i think he did a pretty good job.
>> who is better looking? >> i am. >> reporter: there's no denying the events of that night get the most attention, but he says he refuses to let it define his decades of serving the community. >> you get a call at 2:00 a.m. in the morning, my baby is not breathing. you know, you pull up, the parents come out with the baby and say here. you start doing cpr and get the baby breathing again. >> reporter: those are the moments this third generation policeman says were the most rewarding. >> police still call you sarg? >> yes, they do. >> it's going to be hard to shake off that title? >> yeah. i had it since '93. >> having to get used to his new title of civilian that he's not looking forward to at all. polo sandoval, cnn, watertown, massachusetts. >> i have to say lifetime of contributions and work. barbara starr reports the top u.s. general in afghanistan is stepping down today from his position there.
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is dangerous. john avlon with a reality check. >> in the fight against covid we're seeing the tale of two americas right now. red state, blue state, rural and urban. if you've been vaccinated, the pandemic seems almost over. if you haven't, the worst may be yet to come, barreling down in the form of the delta variant, estimated to be 60% more transmissible. 64% of the eminlgible population at least partially vaccinated. one-third of americans haven't even received their first doses and that's a self-inflicted tragedy in the making, which is why the biden administration said it would ramp up efforts with door-to-door visits. it wasn't long before the political trolls were out in forth. knocksious nazi comparisons. on cue, her fellow curious congresswoman tweeted biden has
depl deployed his neo nazis to her county. vaccination efforts could be used to take your guns and take your bibles. not to be outdone, charlie kirk described college vaccine requirements as an ap apartheid-style open air hostage situation. they're poised to deepen that r red state, blue state vaccine divide. every single one voted for joe biden in the last election. on the flip side, the 19 states where less than 50% is
vaccinated, everyone voted for trump, with the exception of georgia. mississippi and louisiana have vaccine rates less than 40% along with idaho, wyoming and alabama. it's stark and worse at the county level. 20 counties that voted most heavily for donald trump had an average vaccination rate of over 20%. there's a lot of noise in the data. overall trends are clear and ominous. cdc graphic, joining counties with case rates less than 40% of the population fully vaccinated. those dark red counties are a covid tinder box, especially in arkansas. paranoid style politics that's infused the vaccine debate. runs the risk of killing people just to own the lips. how many times do we need to hear about people who were hesitant of the vaccine, got
sick and instantly regretted it? the right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins. and the decision not to get vaccinated puts other people at risk. this should be called the freedom to infect you crowd. the real blame, those hyper-partisan hucksters who are trying to profit politically from this polarization, even if it kills some of their supporter. that's your reality check. "new day" continues right now. i'm john berman along with brianna keilar. anger on the streets as the biggest protest in decades erupts in cuba. we'll take you live to havana. >> three black players on england's soccer team are targeted in racial social media attacks because they missed
kicks in the championship game. will the average joe ever be able to reach for the stars as richard branson heads to space? morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is monday, july 12th and coronavirus cases are surging in parts of the united states and so is frustration. >> at least four consecutive days now. another is missouri. you see it there in light red where the full vaccination rate stands at a little under 40%.
>> joining me now is the medical director in springfield, missouri, dr. howard jarvis. dr. jarvis, we appreciate the work you're doing. we appreciate you being with us this morning. you've written and talked about your frustration and what you're seeing. the patients coming in with covid, what's the one common denominator they have? >> the common denominator that they're sick enough to be in the emergency department is that they're unvaccinated. if they're sick enough to be admitted to the hospital, they're unvaccinated. that is the absolute common denominator amongst those patients. >> the people you are see ing ae unvaccinated. do they regret? or what are they saying about their vaccination status? >> i can see the regret on their face. you know, we ask them, because we want to know, are you vaccinated? and it's very clear that a lot of them regret it. you feel terrible. i haven't had the disease