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you are live in "the cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. this weekend america's most prominent conservatives are gathering for cpac in dallas and circle dancing in what passes for a republican political platform these days. >> what was donald trump right about? >> everything. >> everything! . >> i move we stay true to america first policies created by donald trump. >> in 2024 trumpism will rise again. >> it's all greasing the skids
for donald trump's keynote address tomorrow. trump's false 2020 claims have inspired january 6th capital attack and now the justice department warns that could be just the beginning as long as these conspiracy theories spread. this is all playing out as the last pieces of security fencing are dismantled from around the u.s. capitol and cnn is in dallas for cpac. he joins me now. we see the flags behind you. it is pretty obvious what the crowd has or who the crowd has come to see down there. what are you hearing down there? >> reporter: a lot of excitement for donald trump to arrive tomorrow. wanting to welcome him tomorrow. i spoke to more than a dozen people. every single one of them believe the election was stolen in some
way. have a listen. you are one of the very few people i'm likely to meet here this weekend who tell me that biden won the election fairly. >> that's unfortunate. i got to have the evidence. i got to see it. if you tell me you'll release the crack, show me the crack. don't tell me to go to mr. pillow man's website to get the information. >> you don't think the election was fair? >> no. no. no. they tried to tell us the election we went blue for the first time since 1962. it's not called unanimous is your recognizetion to me. what about it was an insurrection. >> i'm sorry. bull shirt. you don't know who those people were. some trump supporters were invited in. there's video and audio where they said come on.
>> reporter: and there you hear it. and people are in absolute denial about the inis your recognizetions about the election. just think that the insurrection was just six months ago. the election was less than a year ago. yet people don't have a shared understanding of what actually happened. >> yeah. i mean it's like a big liepalooza in dallas. once again, there's this conspiracy theory that trump will be reinstated as president. he was laughed off the first time, but like the other big lie, it intensifies and people start to believe it. what your finding? >> reporter: that's right. trump has the past few months been flirting with this idea that if this sham audit in arizona goes in his favor that the election could some way be overturned, that he would be reinstated to office which, of course, there's no way that could happen. most trump supporters i've spoken to here today have not
bought into that idea. they say it's better to look forward to 2022 or 2024, but, jim, there have been some folks identify spoken with in the past few weeks who are very invested in this idea that trump is going to come back to office in august and one man i spoke to a few weeks ago said there would be a civil war if trump doesn't return this summer. very much charged rhetoric. >> you would think by now there would be some progress and start to accept the fact trump has lost election not coming back. doesn't appear to be the case. people at cpac are fanning those flames, disinformation once again. thank you so much for breaking that down. another major divide here in the u.s. over the coronavirus vaccine. right now not even 50% of the country is fully vaccinated as the highly contagious aggressive delta variant spread in parts of the u.s. with low vaccination rates that left many health experts wondering why more
americans aren't protecting themselves. even mitch mcconnell is scratching his head. >> i'm perplexed by the reluctance of some to get vaccinated. totally perplexed by it. >> totally perplexing. joining us now is anchor of "reliable sources" brian steltzer. >> anti-vaccination propaganda has become much stronger than it was let's say six or nine months ago, jim. what i hear on right-wing radio and television is much more assertive and ridiculous. it's not just hesitancy. it's outright rejection of the vaccines. look, take a listen for yourself.
>> power grabs the. >> why the divide on vaccines is getting worse turn up the volume. >> the focus of this administration on vaccination is mind-boggling. >> focus of right-wing media is vaccine rejection and it's getting down right ridiculous. >> want to go door-to-door. >> reacting to biden. >> we need to go community by community, neighborhood by neighborhood and oftentimes going door-to-door to get help people protect from the virus. >> that simple idea, something that local governments have already been doing was made to sound sinister by the anti-biden media. >> biden administration is threatening to send political operatives to homes of people who refuse to take an experimental covid vaccine. >> door-to-door joe. how about no. >> this is what happens when you get a government too big for its own good.
>> this is how it works. distrust of big government, big pharma, big media gets ripped up into anti-science rhetoric. >> they won't admit that because this would be telling cnn. watchers, "new york times" readers who took the science seriously they are not as smart as they think they are. >> the sarcasm shows hostility and you can hear it all over right-wing radio and the tv. resisting the vaccine is practically a badge of honor a way to stick it to the blue steets with candice owens bragging that not one person in my family will ever touch the covid-19 vaccine. they claim to be defending their freedom. repurposing liberal messaging about abortion rights. >> you say my body my choice. people have a right to make a choice. >> they plan to keep this fight up into the fall. >> students are not going to have to live in a medical apartheid because they don't want a vaccine. >> they are ignoring the public
health reality. more people vaccinated the safer we are. >> we are not asking anybody to make a political statement one way or another. we're trying to save your life. >> but in republican strongholds many adults are resisting. and they are egged on by right-wing media stars who claim to respect their audience but putting them at risk. this week the kaiser family foundation said the red-blue divide is widening whereas a few months ago only 2% gap between counties that went for biden and counties that went for trump in term of acceptance for the vaccine. now more than a 10-point spread between red and blue counties. we've steen reaction, basically the takeaway is that trump counties are more vulnerable to this covid-19 pandemic now. they are more vulnerable to get sick. they are more vulnerable. and ultimately, the responsibility is partly on
lawmakers and these right-wing media stars who are spreading disinformation, jim. >> yeah. i would like to ask some of these characters whether or not they have been vaccinated themselves. it would being a great if they could disclose that as they are throwing all this garbage out there. but this week biden said it's time to go door-to-door to encourage more americans to get vaccinated. members of the gop are pushing back on that. >> now talk about going door-to-door, to be able to take vaccines to people. does he know the mechanisms to execute that massive thing. think about what those mechanism kansas be used for. they can go door-to-door to take your guns, your bibles. >> that's just dumb. but, brian, i guess the practical effect of all of this is that you're just going see people across trump country not being vaccinated and really just
refusing to ever be vaccinated because of this kind of hysteria. >> john berman said we're now in the optional phase of the pandemic. no reason for so many people to get sick teen suffer in some cases die. but i think what we hear is this automatic contrariacontrarianis. do whatever the opposite is of what everybody else says. that can be fun sometimes. but right now it has life and death consequences. >> it's prolonging this pandemic. it is keeping that virus out there. it is potentially leading to deadlier variants. deadlier variants like the delta variant. who knows what comes next because we can't get everybody on the same page in terms of encouraging people to get vaccinated. brian, what a great service you track all of this. i wonder how you don't, you
know, don't lose your mind listening to people like that sometimes. >> i lost my mind a long time ago, jim. >> i don't know about that. you're doing great work as always. thank you for breaking it down to us. very important. brian's show "reliable sources" airs tomorrow. coming up major hurdles at the tokyo olympics. state of emergency over rising covid infection and no fans. i'll talk about it with bob costa. there he is. we'll talk with him next. with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. ♪ it's dry. there's no dry time. makes us wonder why we booked fifteen second ad slots.
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two weeks away from the summer olympics in tokyo. in most venues there won't be a single spectator in the stands to cheer on the athletes. tokyo is entering its fourth stage of emergency. we're following another big story in the world of sports. this one happening on the sidelines of the nba finals. "new york times" revealing a tape of espn host rachel nichols who is white griping to a friend that the network gave a coveted job to a black reporter instead of her. take a listen. >> she covers football, she covers basketball. >> nichols thought she was speaking privately but her
worpds beamed back to espn through a camera set up for her live shots. it then made the rounds inside espn last summer. nichols has since apologized but in response espn has pulled her from her sideline duties and with me now talk about this is the perfect person to talk about both of these stories having run nbc's coverage of the tlips and nba for many years, bob costas. always great to talk to you the. tough to start on this topic because as you and i both know there's a lot of egos in this business. what do you think of the way espn handled this? it sounds as though this was known inside the building for some time. >> yeah. more than a year ago or nearly a year ago when the nba was in its bubble trying to finish up the 2020 season. so, obviously, in retrospect and maybe they should have known at the time, the thing to do is take-two important broadcast casters, rachel and maria
taylor, bring them together he behind closed doors. hey, we got this tape. it shouldn't have happened. it's an if aviation of privacy. that's another issue that's mixed in with the other issues with modern technology, the possibility of these sorts of inadvertent invasions of privacy are a concern but let's keep this in house. let's work this thing out. you're both important to us. now, without defending everything that rachel said even though it was on a private call, it is either amazingly coincidental or curious that this all comes to head just asthmary a taylor a rising star not a star already, lots of interest not just at espn but around the sports broadcasting industry in maria taylor who is an athlete herself, she has that in her back ground. very good on the air. she has a tremendous presence. her contract is up in the next couple of weeks and has been haggling back and forth.
whether there was motivation to release this now it's a question worth asking. it comes down to this. are there a lot of dynamics here, gender dynamics, black-white dynamics. privacy dynamics. sure there are. but a lot of times in this atmosphere people want to take complicated situations that are at least in large part about just normal human impulse, ambition, territory, ego, whatever it might be and they want to fit it into the preferred narrative. i heard on the right their narrative is oh, sure rachel nichols was woke and all in favor of diversity until it came for her and then on the left there's an understandable impulse to say, you know, there are sometimes white people who appear to be allies but then behind closed doors the truth comes out. but in fairness if you listen though or read the transcript
she doesn't disparage maria taylor, if anything she seems to acknowledge that maria is a terrific talent. but what she's saying is not that i wanted this came job but i have it in my contract to have this assignment. that sort of things, jim, has gone on in broadcasting forever and i'm not sure everybody realizes it, if it was two white guys it just would be a broadcasting thing. work it out. but you got other dynamics here and people will read into it whatever they want to read into it. >> let's talk about the olympics. just as we were asking ourselves what are the olympics without be bob costas, what are the olympics without fans. we got used to watching the nfl, the nba and so on without fans but the olympics. i mean that is going to be strange. >> very strange. because while all sports events draw energy and emotion and atmospherics from having fans in the stands the olympics as you know are different.
there's the back stories, and the personal emotions and so having countrymen and family members and friends and all of that sort of thing, that's essential here. it's going to feel empty. it's not going to be nbc's fault, i said this repeatedly, they will do a very good job under the circumstances as they always do. i under that they've already staked out cameras and microphones in the homes of american athletes back here in the states that they expect to do well and emphasize ambient sound, coaches and teammates and all that sort of thing. it just can't take the place of a texture that you expect at a big event like that. it isn't just the competitions. part of the coverage of the olympics is always to take you out into the sites and important landmarks and what's happening in the streets and areas surrounding the games themselves. all of that will be diminished the. >> as a commentary on how far behind yap is in responding to the pandemic, let's talk about
this, "washington post" reports michael andrew won't be vaccinated when he participates in the tokyo games. he was basically worried about getting it between the trials and olympics because he didn't know how his body would respond to it. what do you think about that argument. does that hold any water, pardon the pun? >> i find it very unconvincing. if you're informed you know in 99% of the cases the worst thing you have is a sore arm for a day. virtually all, according to the best intelligence we can get, 90 plus percent of his american olympians have been vaccinated. they kwontd their training. the idea that i can't run the minimal risk that for a day two my training might be disrupted by taking the vaccine, look i understand that you have to point towards the olympics. i under that it's been put off for a year. i under that these athletes have
very strict regimens that they follow. at some point you have to think of others. this seems like a highly egocentric decision. >> he can be sidelined because he coaches covid. i don't get this. that has happened in the world of golf. we saw that happen in recent weeks. so certainly can happen to him. the worst thing that could happen is he could get other people sick. >> of course and complicate the contact tracing. he said he had covid some months ago. maybe he thinks he can't get it again because that's a notion that's out there. your point is correct. it's the danger if it's only inconvenience, so it might be worse than that. the danger he poses to his teammates and other olympian from around the world once he gets there even with the isolation and protocols it's a bad notion, a bad look. >> certainly is. hopefully he'll get that shot anticipate wake up, somebody will splash cold water in his face and wake him up to the science of all this.
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scrambling to ensure the safety of other buildings not far from champlain towers that collapsed in surfside. engineers are taking samples of concrete for analysis to eventually compare the condpreet the rubble. the city of surfside is using ground pen trapgt radar, gpr to analyze structure safety. have you seen anything that has worried you yet? >> no, ma'am but i can't see through concrete. that's why the gpr and compressor is important for me to under. >> you see the building. it looks like a normal building. >> reporter: in north miami beach residents had 15 minutes to grab personal belongings from their homes have it was evacuated and deemed unsafe. >> we take all you see over there. so we have something.
>> reporter: newly released video from champlain tower south shows the parking deck. two engineers noted corrosion but found it difficult to discern anything. >> national institute of standards and technology has made very significant progress in tagging and transporting pieces of forensic forensic evidence the pile. they've now collected over 200 pieces of evidence and they re recently have a scientist from the measurement lab in washington to assist in analysis. >> reporter: as the investigation into the cause of the collapse continues teams on a recovery mission continue to search for victims and retrieve their personal belongings hoping to bring closure to families as soon as possible. >> the pile that originally was approximately four stories is now almost at ground level.
everything you can imagine has been recovered and processed. this process will continue until every bit of debris has gone through. >> reporter: global empowerment organization help survivors move forward. they still need basic things. money for deposit to get a new home. one indication of how this will certainly be a very long road ahead. >> coming up the dangerous heat out west. some areas expected to hit all time records as high as 130 degrees. how are people coping? we'll take you live to las vegas next. we'll say i had decorated with margaritas. ♪
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out there and how are they coping? >> reporter: it really is hard to even understand. it feels like someone is holding up a dryer and put it on the highest setting. people here telling me it feels like you're walking in an oven. this weekend las vegas could reach its highest temperature ever recorded here of 117 degrees. national weather service telling people not to gamble with these dangerous conditions. a lot of people here they are used to this kind of heat but the tourist, people here for the big fight, concert or any sort of celebration they don't always know how to handle this heat. i talked to some of the tourists earlier today and here's what they told me. >> going back to jersey and our cold weather. we were expecting 90 or 95. when we look at the weather it's 04, 115. so now we went out early so that we can roam around.
it's 9:00 it's all burning, like hell here. >> pretty much outside to take these pictures and then go into the casinos. we'll stay i had decorated with margaritas. >> reporter: it is fun in las vegas. but also dangerous the. the state's electricity provider both here and california telling people you need to conserve power because imagine being in this heat without power, jim. that's what they are trying to avoid. >> although i like that idea of hydrating with margaritas. we won't get into that right now. let's bring in cnn's chief climate correspondent bill weir. not just vegas and death valley two hours drive from there. 130 degrees yesterday. could do it again tomorrow. what's going on here. i know you're following this very closely. these are worrying temperatures out there. >> reporter: sure. scientists will tell you its blowing their mind.
what happened in the pacific northwest that heat dome is off the charts. if you were a scientist five years ago and gone to the mayor of portland or seattle and said we need to start thinking of using buses as cooling centers because people will be dying, roasting to death in their homes and clams and mussels will be steaming open in the ocean, they would have thrown a net over you. this is the reality of this. there's argument over the record from 1913, science doubts that happened. the guy who saw that said birds fell dead from the sky it was so hot. they think he was overheated. may be mute because if they hit 135 degrees then that's the new record ever on the earth as far as we know. >> incredible. yet to cover that heat wave with the extreme drought that's happening out west in california, the driest rainfall year since 1890s, wildfires are on pace to be more disastrous than last year. what your seeing when you look
at this, you know, from a bird's eye view? >> reporter: it will only get worse, sadly. the bathtub ring around lake mead which keeps los angeles and other western people alive is taller than the statue of liberty now. at its lowest all time point. asking californians to conserve by 25% voluntarily. where we get into these long drawn out sudden disasters can pull communities together. drought and famine is where you look at your neighbor where did you get that water. who gets that water. communities, farmers, endangered species. that will get more intense as this drags on and that leads to fires and crop failure, you know. heat wave in the pacific northwest wiped out the berry crop up in washington as well. shell fish i talked about. salad bowl of the world in california. it's going to trickle into your
receipt at the grocery store before long, sadly. >> absolutely. we haven't gotten into what this hurricane season will do, the remains of tropical storm elsa is soaking the east coast right now. we already had five named storms in the record to have that many already at this point in the year. every year or every so often, every few years we're having that kind of streak. is this the new normal now these stronger storms happening earlier in the year and then making these hurricane seasons just last a long time and just, you know, any grueling experience for people living in hurricane country? >> reporter: absolutely. a planet made hotter by activity holds more moisture in some places and not enough in others as we're seeing it at both end of this country. nobody was thinking about stronger storms and higher seas in the '80s when they had the housing boom. beach sand that had salt in it that erodes the rebar. you just did the story of people
evacuating in 15 minutes. other thing is what happens way before the waves are lapping up on south beach is when insurance companies and banks say we're not going to lend or insure these properties any more. it's too risky. that creates almost an economic dust bowl as property values go down and that creates a tax base which affects teachers and cops. so, unfortunately, there's not a lot of, you know, activity happening in washington. people are wait forge something to happen there. it's infuriating to watch. at the local level whether it's hardening community out west against wildfire instead of putting them way out up in the wilderness or raising the streets. key west, florida keys they had seven hour meeting this week. very heated, very emotional and in the end they decided they will commit billions of dollars to raising our streets to keep people in the florida keys there but they admit they have to let
some of those munts go. >> unbelievable. bill weir thanks for staying on top of the low temperature story for us. we appreciate it as always. coming up, he was a teenage tv character who loved pressed suits and ronald reagan. what would alex p.keaton think of donald j. trump. we'll ask his tv parents as we countdown to the "history of the sitcom." ist. connect to nature. did you know prilosec otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins? heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus.
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and help them navigate an ever changing cultural landscape. tomorrow night we take a look at the history of sitcom. i'm joined by two members of a famous tv family. they played parents to michael j. fox's character on "family ties." michael and meredith thank you so much boston you for joining us. michael, let me start with you first. i loved the show back in the day. it was the best. but we'll talk about the show over the next several minutes. in your show, michael, a lot of comedy was refrifd the dynamic of these ex-hippie parent and republican son. if you were to do a reboot how do you think the keys would have handled their son being a trump supporter? >> well, all right. first of all, i have a problem with the question because i don't know that he was necessarily a trump supporter.
let me explain why. one of the fascinating things about alex p.keaton is that his mind was always telling him one thing, make a killing, get as much money as possible, make that deal. but he was truly also the child of his parents and it was always that tension between his mind, and his heart. and so i think, i think what always won was his heart and that's what we always just loved him trying to, trying to wrangle his, tear himself away to get to his heart. so i think -- i think it was a different republican party. i don't know that he would be a trump supporter because i don't necessarily think donald trump is a republican of the time of the republican i used to know, the class of republican and
republicans we talked about at that time. i don't know he would be there. >> meredith, if you want to chime in on that question, feel free. first we should say michael j. fox just a wonderful human being. but let's talk about, you know, how michael how would he deal with it, do you think? how would -- >> i have to echo what michael is saying. i don't see -- this is my politics are coming into this, but what i loved so much about the characters on "family ties" is they were communicators. they discussed stuff. we may have a difference of opinion but we would still be talking about what you're doing, what the implications are, how it affects other people. i don't think that happens in a family that is divided when there is a trump supporter, because everything i know,
people, it's that they don't talk at all, there's no discussion, and there's nothing funny about it, so i would have a hard time seeing how trump would even find his way into our show. >> it was a time, jim, excuse me, it was a time when things were not quite as divisive. it was a time when two irish men, tip o'neill and ronald reagan, could sit down in the white house over some irish whiskey and come to a compromise. that's less and less apparent. i think things are less funny now than they were at the time because that act of compromise made hilarity possible. you could laugh at each other's positions and not deride them. we weren't enemies, we were in different places but still remained friends. so it was easy to make a comedy out of things, i think. >> and amemeredith, in the fina
seconds we have, favorite memories from the show, what was it like with all those kids around? you must have felt like their parents, these child actors. >> well, i have a fair number of children myself, so it was just like going home and being with all of them. do you know, i liked the shows when we just got so crazy, when we got really silly and over the top. we did one show that was -- helicopters are going over -- that was about the christmas in the future. and it showed all of the -- each member of the keaton family in some kind of poverty or a devastating situation, like jennifer was selling dirt, elise was taking in laundry. but michael fox comes to the door, alex comes to the door to save us all and he's like daddy warbucks, he's like the banker from the monopoly game, that's what he looks like, and he's
going to fix us all because his life has unfolded the way he expected. >> and michael, your favorite memory? i just want to make sure i get it in. >> oh, boy. i just think the fact that it was such a collaborative group in general. we were asked for our opinions. we sat down at the end of run-throughs and said, how can we make these characters better, what was wrong with the story? we were asked that by the writers. our opinions were valued. and that was a big thing. i will mention the fact that we all became very close. i -- actors are itinerants. to have a show seven years running, you become close to everyone. the friendship that endures between myself and meredith was one of the high points. that still holds true for me today. >> we can still feel the warmth between both of you and from that show all these years later.
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