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renew her. perhaps she hasn't accepted terms. still unclear. we have to leave the conversation there though. thank you so much for the time. always appreciate it. >> thank you. >> of course. don't go anywhere. cnn is tracking tropical storm elsa and of course, inside politics with john king starts politics with john king starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello. thank you for sharing your day with us. right now, millions under a tropical storm warning for tropical storm elsa. plus a developing delta variant crisis. half of all new infections in the united states right now are from this nasty covid strain. and kevin mccarthy makes up his mind. the republican leader will appoint members to that committee investigating the insurrection. new cnn reporting today on how
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his goal is not the truth. we begin flight with a bench mark decision from the top republican in the house. yes, he does plan to fill the five republican slots on the january 6th select committee. that after an internal republican debate over whether a boycott minute a better political strategy. the leaders are told, it is not to aid the search for the truth. sources familiar with his thinking say it is less about cooperation and more about making sure republican loyalists are in place to try to steer the committee away from facts invent to donald trump and to the gop. let's get straight to melanie up on capitol hill. the leader has made his decision. now what? >> that's right. the strategy is coming into focus for republicans about how they'll approach this january 6th investigation. ultimately i'm told that kevin mccarthy does plan to appoint republicans because he wants anaheim position where they can push back on democrats, play defense for trump, shape a counter narrative and
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essentially throw sand in the gears of the investigation as much as possible. sole you can expect to see some of those trusted trump allies on the committee. someone like jim jordan, mike johnson. but at the same time, kevin mccarthy also recognizes that it is important to have more pragmatic and serious members who can have credibility with middle america, who can bring some expertise to the debate. in fact i had one source tell me they would not be surprised if he doesn't appoint someone who actually voted to certify the results. >> that would be very interesting going forward. we should note this. republicans want to twist january 6th into something short of an insurrection. new video we have shows the obvious and the horrifying truth. the capitol attack was an attack. an attempted violent overthrow of the united states government. a caution to our viewers. some of what we're about to show you is rather traumatic.
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he was trying on breach the senate chamber. the accused rioter tofk civic promising to push through tear gas and police. video captured him attacking michael fanone, beating him, tasing him and stealing his badge. videos part of the giant justice department mosaic. 500 some cases against alleged rioters making their way through the courts. the fbi releasing scores of new video just tuesday. a dramatic reminder of the january 6th violence and there are still insurrectionists at large with. me in the studio to show the reporting, abby phillip, olivia, katherine lucy and julie hershfeld davis of the "new york times." the video is disturbing but to remind people there are some republicans mostly trying on rewrite history.
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it was an internal conversation. should we boycott this? you heard melanie say leadership loyalists, trump loyalists being in some of the spots. >> i think the republican party wants to have a voice in whatever comes out of the select committee. they want to be pushing, as melanie said, the counter narrative. that this was not so serious. wasn't an insurrection. and they want to have the procedural seat at the table on try to really stall out what democrats are trying to do. and obviously, democrats, nancy pelosi has made it clear that she wants this committee to be very aggressive by putting liz cheney on her side of the dais. she is trying to instill a bipartisan questioning and investigation of this and trying on give at this time veneer of something objective. the republican position will be to turn it on its head saying this is partisan, one-sided and an illegitimate inquiry from the get-go. >> any hope that the bare facts,
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you look at the videos, it was an attack on the capitol. any hope that the gravity of the evidence would convince these republicans? maybe in the end they don't want to blame trump. but to at least not be rai railroading a search for truth? >> they've systematically played down the significance of january 6th. after trump feeding the insurrection, they've backed all the way off the earlier claims. so no, i don't think that is, they've already said they don't consider this a legitimate inquiry. they've already said they can't accept a bipartisan independent commission. they've already rejected all these venues for looking into the january 6th insurrection. we should remember, interrupted the certification of the election. so no. i think this is much more likely to be a, well, look, this will
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g get coverage anyway. for all the desire to move beyond the expression of january 6th, if it is going to get talked about, be part of the conversation. >> if you are a republican who agreed to be on the xhoe at this point, you know that means you are probably a republican who sees this the way kevin mccarthy sees it. even if your name isn't jim jordan, even if you're not a fire thrower, you won't semithis kind of assignment, you know. it's not exactly a pleasant assignment for most republicans unless you're willing to go with the main republican line which is to down may all of this. there were some earlier in the process. basically that, after mccarthy rejected that, he basically said, i don't want to have anything to do with it. i think people. in vain who wanted to get to the truth, they don't want to touch with it a ten-foot pole. so it will end up being this partisan flame-throwing
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exercise. >> so the burden is on the chairman. and part of what stuns me here is that republicans still want denial what we showed people video. that was officer fanone. one of the insurrectionists beat him, tasered him, stole his badge. officer fanone said i'll be a witness. >> what is most difficult for me is post january 6th, seeing people down play or just lie about the events of that day. i experienced first hand an insurrection inspired by the head of our executive branch, the president at the time, donald trump, and his co-workers. >> the witness list, if everyone asks, will they get white house people to come in including the former president. will kevin mccarthy be called by the house committee, unlikely. he would probably fight that. the police officer, the dramatic testimony of member and women risking their lives that day.
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how do republicans say that wasn't a big deal? or that almost didn't happen? >> that's the question. how do they react? then also the case democrats are trying to make and who are they making their case to? one of the things you're hook at mid terms is that they're trying to make the argument about january 6th. an officer talking about what happened so the voters hear it. i think that then becomes the conversation. how the republican voters see it. we've seen mixed responses from them as well. >> and how do people around the country process this? there's reporting today of one of the issues that will come up, looking at the causes of the anger, extremism. the fbi has infiltrated a bible st study group had members studying the capitol. they followed one member's plan to build molotov cocktails. there are serious significant
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life and death issues that need to be explored by this committee and other jurisdictions, appointing nobody's railroad it strikes me as a risk. >> i think there's a domestic terror problem in the united states, according to federal officials who are looking at this. and it is multifaceted in nature. and one part of it is the ideology that led to the insurrection. that ideology is actually expanding and becoming more outlandish and more extreme in some ways. and there is a complete unwillingness on the part of capitol hill to get to the bottom of it. and that makes all of us a lot less safe. it is one thing to talk about razor wire and fences at the capitol. what actually causes people to plan and to plot and can we get ahead of those things? i think that's the real issue. i don't have any indication that's really where this committee will be able to go. >> and i think even if it was. republicans have a real risk, a real issue with that line of
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inquiry. because that's a lot of the voters and a lot of the people voting for their candidates and primaries and elections have those beliefs. so they'll have an issue if this committee or any law enforcement agency really starts to go down this road. they have a lot of members who have espoused these ideas. >> build and test molotov cocktails. up next, tropical storm elsa has made landfall along florida's gulf coast. millions of people are facing rain, strong winds and in some cases, tornadoes. no way. my pants are pants, dog. pizza on a bagel—we can all agree with that. uhm whatever those are, they're not pants. [ ding ]
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this is taylor county. these pictures just south of there in cedar key. it will track lake virtually the entire east coast bringing dangerous amounts of rain. chad, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, you couldn't see it on that picture there but we do know there was some significant storm surge toward horseshoe beach, maybe three to four, even five feet in some spots and that's always the risk of salt water flooding. now we have risk of fresh water flooding. very heavy rainfall coming down with it and it will move toward the northeast. the winds aren't bad right now. maybe some spots we'll still see some gusts. 50, 60. but all the numbers here, below 40. maybe the center isn't near a city. and it probably will get to other cities. brunswick toward columbia. maybe even raleigh. see how far this storm is tracking inland? wasn't really the forecast a couple days ago. it was closer to the shore. now we'll see a lot of onshore
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flow, onshore wind. significantly dangerous rip currents out there. this will be a very dangerous week to be in the water along the east coast. don't do it. the water will be going out tremendously there. keep the kids out of the water. there is the rainfall the next few days all the way to washington, d.c. >> we'll keep in touch as elsa moves this way. appreciate the latest. back to politics. americans now know eric adams is likely their next mayor. it is projected he will win. the former nypd captain promising to crack down on violent crime. >> it is a real message for the entire country. new york is a mick row cox of what is taking place in big cities all across america. >> athena, this was a close win in the end. >> it is. this was the first test in a
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major city. the largest jurisdiction in the country to use rank voting. on election night, you saw that eric adams was out front. he's been out front the entire time. the difference there in terms of his first choice, he won the most first choice votes. 75,000 votes. in the end, he ends up winning by only a percentage points. it is interesting to see how much the gap has closed when you begin eliminating the candidates, whereby each candidate is eliminated and there are two that remain. he came out on top having run on the issue have public safety, rising crime being really important to a lot of voters. putting together a coalition of working class voters. voters of color. voters in the outer burroughs. katherine garcia who came in second did the best in manhattan. but eric adams put together a wide coalition, the same up with that helped electricity joe
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biden to president. >> grateful for the update. an important update on the numbers. now with the panel, it is sometimes risky to have a national distraction of what happened to new york city but eric adams, likely the next mayor. he says crime was a big issue. he believes voters moving a little more toward the middle. the white house chief of staff happens to agree. >> i think that the coalition that mr. adams put together in new york is not dissimilar to the coalition president biden put together. working class voter, african-american voters overwhelmingly, and voters who want to see progress on core issues. and i think that is the coalition that got joe biden the democratic nomination in 2020. >> the message there, ron clain interprets that as the country and the democratic party, maybe not as far left as twitter democrats think the party is. >> absolutely. that is true.
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i think that it has always been the case that the building blocks of the democratic party is not as far to the left as it seems if you were just in washington or just on twitter or just on social media, even just watching television, watching the people who are the loudest voices. and black voters in particular who are a big part of eric adams' coalition, a big part of joe biden's coalition, are in a lot of ways more moderate. we talk about that a lot in the geographic south of the country where we see that moderation. but it's also true in a place like new york city. a big metmetropolis. so i think that should be a lesson about what message they put up. it is not just about what you hear in the echo chamber when you talk on individual voters, he this want something a little more, a little closer to the center on some of these key issues. specially on crime and public
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safety. >> let's put the map up as we continue the conversation. these are cities with a rise in homicides and aggravated assaults. coast to coast, across america. this will be an issue in the 2022 mid-terms. it is am issue for the president of the united states right now. it was clearly an issue that matters to new york voters. >> i think you hear ron klain saying this. there were a lot of democrats who felt like after last year's elections, that the defund police really hurt them. they really got targeted. so democrats who are looking to take a more centrist message on policing, on crime, are really going to embrace this result. >> and i think we saw the head of the democratic house campaign arm endorse eric adams the day before the primary. what he said was, what adams had to say about this issue is really important. it is what voters wanted to hear. there is an issue, a problem that will get confronted.
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it doesn't mean we'll turn our back on the very real issues of accountability and reforms need to be done. that that was a balanced message that he said democrats should emulate. the issue other, than it is always a temptation to overread these, eric adams is a very sing hard candidate and it will be difficult for democrats to find other democrats who can carry that message as effectively as he did. he is a black man. he was beaten himself when he was a teenager. he was a policeman himself. he's been in public service. and he is able to speak about these issues in a way that some democrats really can't or haven't been able to. so it will be interesting to see what his message was and more broadly communicate that. >> how they communal it heading into the mid-terms. voters say this is an issue.
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>> 69 that he is of republicans, 55% of republicans. more so republicans. americans think this is a big deal. >> it's part of the reason what you're hearing is an impossibly stupid argument about defund police. i don't know you are but what am i? and i think her point about adam's biography is supremely important. this is a unique character. look, i have a career supporting law enforcement. it got me in the primaries. i'm interested to see how much of this stuff sticks to biden versus how many it sticks to this or that house member. i think that will be interesting to see how different that is. wove seen the defund the police
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cost them votes. it seems like a taller order to make stick. >> i think we learned that in 2020. it was hard to push biden more to the left. but maybe you can do it. an excellent point. we'll continue this conversation with surprising new details on how just how joe biden won the 2020 election. and it is a party in new york city. look right here. this is a parade honoring essential workers. home town heroes parade right in the streets of new york. right now. more protection, more sun, more joy. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologists and their families, neutrogena® for people with skin.
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let's go inside some new numbers that force to us rethink how joe biden did this. how joe biden won the 2020 election. these numbers come from a pew research analysis combining a giant pool of survey information and then validating against 2020 voting piles, meaning making sure the people actually voted. the findings tell us, this coalition might not be exactly as you imagine. and they offer both parties some choose about shifting preferences. joe biden is in the white house because he was more competitive among white men. look at these numbers. 62% for donald trump. 32%, a 30-point game when you go back to 2016. donald trump won in 2020 but by a more narrow margin.
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how did the numbers translate? i can give you 100 exams of why that matters. pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. blue on the 2020 ma'am for joe biden. everybody remembers, you go back to 2016, they are red. why? because hillary clinton did not perform well among white men. joe biden still lost then. he performed better then and it helped him including in those three battleground states. we also knew the suburbs were key for biden but this brings even more clarity. this is among white suburban voters. 54% to 38%. donald trump wins big among white suburban voters in 2016. he wins again in 2020 with you look, only a four-point gap. from where hillary clinton was among white suburban voters. why does that matter? you want one exam? the state of arizona. joe biden wins arizona and he wins it narrowly. phoenix, big. that's where you win in arizona. you win here. that's blue.
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let's go back four years. that's red. donald trump carries arizona then. one of the examples, you can do it in georgia, too. donald trump runs strong among white suburbans. joe biden runs strong four years later, he takes arizona and changes the -- map. the shifting mood. come over here and look at this giant game. 66% for hillary clinton. 28% for donald trump. joe biden still won but 59-38. donald trump improved his standing. 10 points among hispanic voters. how does that translate on the map? remember in the 2020 campaign. democrats had dreams. we're going to take texas back. you see a lot of blue down here. right? in this part of texas. but take a look. this is 2020. right? biden lost texas. donald trump won it comfortably. go back in time. you see more blue. right? when hillary clinton -- i mean
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when donald trump carries texas over hillary clinton shelf did better here. has the tiny county, maverick county. but 76% for hillary clinton. she's losing texas in 2016 and losing it big. but in this area, latino voters. fast forward 20 years. joe biden by only 10 points because donald trump is porlg better among latino voters. took away any democratic hopes at all of getting texas. one more, over to florida. donald trump was always going to win florida. the biden said maybe we'll try it. but let's look at miami-dade. in 2020, look at miami-dade. 7 points. you think that's a pretty big win. go back in time. hillary clinton lost florida in 2016. but look at this. that's nearly 30 points. what happened? donald trump ran stronger among latino voters here in the miami area. and guess what, republicans picked up two congressional seats in that area because of that. let's get some context from two veteran campaign pros.
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the former top straft for president barack obama, let me start with you. you get great studies like the and you have to rethink some things. what are you rethinking most after looking at this date? >> well, i think there are a few questions raised. one is very clear. and you ended with it. you know, do not think of the latin x vote as a monolith. there's not an hispanic community. there are communities very different around the country. down in miami-dade, that word socialism really hurt biden with those voters. many of whom came from latin america and were very sensitive to that word. in texas, the whole issue of
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energy was very resonant down there. because so many people work in oil related jobs. and so, i do think that established hispanic voters in this country who are noncollege voters behave much like noncollege white voters. the final thing i would say is on a different subject, they have to think about how they appeal more broadly. this they not added those points, he probably would have not won that election. you can't write off large swaths of the country and believe that you're going to win a national election given our electoral system. so those are two things to take away. >> if you're thinking, how do i apply this to 2024 and beyond, one of the most interesting question, it is a generational divide. we're seeing a change in the electorate. this is the first time in our
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presidential history where voters under the age of 55 made up a majority of the electorate. normally we on look at the babyboomers. voters 56 and older, normally the majority of presidential politics but no more. younger voters, and i think you agree me. younger voters who agree at this moment to favor biden and the democrats. this is a warning sign. is it not? >> republicans have been doing poorly under age 30 all the way to the mid two thousands. the last time you had a republican at the national level sort of hold serve with young voters was george w. bush running against john kerry in 2004. he lost voters under 30 but only by single digits. republicans are losing them by huge margins. the more troubling thing is the voters in that next block up. millennials, we're not young anymore. we're in our 30s and 40s. we're still seeing the millennial generation, according to this pew study, breaking into
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the 20 i 20 margin. that's different than, you're young. you'll get conservative as you're older. they're getting older and they're still breaking for democrats. >> another thing that's interesting, when we look at november and applies to now, the pew study of how people voted. let's look at how people voted in 2020. republicans win on election day. donald trump nearly 2-1. voters who showed up on election day. we saw it play out when we counted the votes. in-person early, trump advantage. people who showed up early, a slight advantage. but look at this. this is why republicans across the country want to change to make it harder to vote early. make it harder to have drop boxes. by mail or absentee ballot, nearly a 2-1 biden advantage. why republicans are doing many of the thing they're doing at the state level. even though donald trump won big, this is why in texas, for
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example, they want to do away with drop boxes and early voting. because democrats surprised them that places like harris county. that early voting, disproportionately advantaged the democrats and the pew numbers make it jump out at you. >> absolutely. it is skewed because trump campaigned against it before the election. so he made it socially unacceptable for republicans to vote early. he made an article of faith that you should not, that was a problem for republicans, by the way. one interesting note on all of this, john, is that among those early nip voters and nip voters generally, african-americans actually chose to use that tool more than the absentee ballots. anything that makes that more difficult and disruptive probably advantages republicans in the minds of people who are
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writing these new rules. >> and you always look to the middle of the electorate which can shift from election to election. if you look at the numbers, if you can bring them up on independents. joe biden performing 10 points better than hillary clinton among independents. what's the lesson there? >> you need to have more than just your base as part of your coalition. donald trump had been pretty good in 2016 about bringing new voters out. in this pew study you can see folks who were new to the study in 2016 tended to be pretty split between democrats and republicans. this idea that expanding new voters always advantages democrats isn't necessarily the case. for republicans in 2022, can you keep those trump voters coming out when trump sp on the ballot? that's the big unknown. >> thank you for helping me. we'll continue the conversation. back to the coronavirus.
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joining us now with the latest, what do we know and what next? >> reporter: i've been hearing more from the acting prime minister who says that the men who entered the house, the president overnight, killing him. about 1:00 a.m. local time and wounding his wife who are highly trained and heavily armed. he also vowed he would bring any further details they learned over the coming hours as quickly as they could and that the criminals would be brought to justice. this is in a time of political crisis and economic situation that had been only worsened by the covid pandemic and months of social unrest. people taking to the streets with the attempt to further his grasp on power. in the end, it is political instability over the last few decades that has brought us here and it is undoubtedly further instability that will emerge what the acting prime minister has instituted now. what is described under haitian law as state of siege.
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it is just above a state of emergency. closures of the borders, martial law imposed so haiti will not be plunged into further disaster. >> thank you very much. the covid crisis. we want to talk in a moment to somebody on the front lines dealing with the deadly delta variant. here's the case count right now. you see the case count and you think about the winter peak. way, way down here. we're still averaging 13,600 new infections a day. that's up from 11,000 a couple weeks ago. so the case count is inching up in part because of the disparity in vaccinations. 62% in maine. 66% in vermont. fully vaccinated. 33%, mississippi, 30%. that's one of the problems in the country. the disparity. if you look at the delta variant, it now makes up more than half will you see the
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progression from may, june and up we go. if you look at the map, it is taking route in the regions where we know the vaccination rate is lower. and the alabama state officer, dr. scott harris. dr. harris, if you talk to the public health experts, they make this connection. they look at the vaccine map them say alabama is at 33%. therefore, you're going to have more of a delta problem because you have a large he unvaccinate population. what can you do to fix that? >> that's a reasonable assumption and we are very concerned about that. we have tried as many ways as we can to address hesitancy. it comes in a lot of different flavors. some people have access, some people in the african-american community talk about the historical trauma they've experienced and the relationship they've had with the state and clearly, there are parts of the state that have almost a partisan or political aspect to their view about whether they want to be vaccinate. and it is really hard to come up with a single solution for
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everyone. >> i want to bring up this kaiser foundation poll. who do you trust the most? well, both democrats and republicans say their personal doctor. then you start the cdc and you see republicans especially, less faith in government institutions. the president of the united states is a democrat so republicans, less like i to believe him. dr. fauci in conservative media. republicans less like i to believe him. even state government, 7 in 10 democrats say they believe their state government. how do you do this? i don't mean to use it in this context but it is complicated. you have an african-american community. >> there are voices in each community. we have people that we know personally that we respect whose opinions we want to hear and consider so we have worked local providers. and people who tend to trust their doctors but in some cases,
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they trust others as well. they may be faith leaders in their community, local public officials in some cases. but we really do have to take it almost one situation at a time. every town is a little bit different from the next town. >> we're having this conversation in early july. when you look at your calendar, you think about kids going back to school in the weeks ahead. the weather gets cooler in the weeks ahead. as you can see a month ago, you were at 417. you're down now here. you're down but you're up from where you were in the middle of june. 121, june 22nd. a little creep up there. and i'll bring up the hospitalizations as well. a plateau, maybe a little up there. that's july. when you do your projections, how important is it that you get a higher percentage vaccinated? you convince people about this nasty delta variant before these numbers. the weather gets cooler, the kids go back to school and the numbers go up. >> that's absolutely vital. it doesn't take much discussion
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to figure out, if you have a large pool of susceptible people and you have a more transmissible variant around, you will have outbreaks. when we have large groups of people getting together for social events or in a school setting, a workplace setting, we'll certainly be at risk for that. most states are reporting virtually all the hospital patients are unvaccinated people. we know that virtually all the deaths in our country are among unvaccinated people even though fortunately, the number of deaths in total is down quite a bit. but clearly, we've got a lot of work to do to reach these people who haven't committed yet to being vaccinated. >> assal, we appreciate your time. best luck. what better way to say thank you to the people on the front lines of this fight? that's a parade, new york city.
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. celebration in new york city today. you see it right there. a parade for covid-19 frontline workers. shimon prokupecz joins us now. tell us what you're seeing? >> reporter: yeah. it's a really exciting day here, john. you see there are members of the coast guard walking through this. the parade kicked off just after 11:00 and we're nearing towards the end of the parade. we're actually at the end where the mayor is greeting many of the frontline workers, the essential workers. you're talking about grocery
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store workers, delivery men who were driving through the city on their bikes during the pandemic delivering food, grocery store clerks, u.p.s. workers, amazon workers and also the fedex workers. and of course all of the nurses and the medical teams throughout the entire city and state who worked to try and help people. here you have members of the navy here. so that's what we've been seeing here all day for the last several hours, john. just a lot of people coming out clapping, greeting many of the people who have walked and marched through the canyon of heroes, which is usually reserved for war heroes and sports heroes. today the heroes are the essential workers and many of the frontline workers who really kept this city afloat during the height of the pandemic. this has now been going on since 11:00 so we're nearing the end. the heat of course a big concern for the city, so they have shortened the festivities, which are now about 30 minutes or so away from ending, john.
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