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collapsed. [ explosion ] tropical storm elsa here rapidly approaching the areas, and so engineers fear the remaining structure was unstable and it was potentially dangerous. >> search and rescue operations will start up against once the site is declared safe. this is expected to give surge teams new access to portions of the debris pile they haven't been able to reach. nobody has been found alive since immediately after the collapse. 24 confirmed deaths with 121 people still unaccounted for. natasha chen joins us live from surfside, florida, with more. >> that space behind us, the sky between the buildings there, that is where champlain tower south used to be as of last night about 10:30 p.m. that's when they took down the
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remaining part of the structure. it was up until that point really unsafe for the people searching and rescuing on site. they were actually not able to reach the area closie st to the remaining part of the structure. now that the building has come down that will be easier for them to do that. here is the mayor of surfside talking about how this timeline of trying to get this demolition done before this coming storm might have been a lucky thing. >> it appears as though the approaching storm may have been a blessing in disguise for us in that it initiated the demolition discussion. that discussion has accomplished several things. it's eliminated a looming threat, a dangerous threat for our rescue workers. it will potentially open up probably a third of the pile so we can all, you know, so the teams can focus not just on two thirds of the pile but on the
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whole thing. >> reporter: the mayor and other officials at that press conference wanted to reassure the public that searchers had done multiple sweeps and used technology like thermal imaging to search for anyone's pets. they did not find any animals in the remaining structure before the demolition happened. during that time, the people living in the vicinity had to stay indoors. they were told to keep all windows and doors shut to keep that dust cloud and debris from entering their homes. and now as soon as engineers clear search and rescue can continue as 121 people, their families, are waiting for news on those folks who were unaccounted for right now 24 people confirmed brianna? >> thank you, natasha. former president trump at a rally this weekend appearing to acknowledge the merits of the case against the trump organization and its chief financial officer while denying that these are actually crimes. trump told the crowd that every company has, quote, fringe
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benefits and he mocked new york prosecutors for pursuing these charges. >> they go after good, hard-working people for not paying taxes on a company car. company car. you didn't pay tax on the car. or a company apartment. you used an apartment because you need an apartment because you have to travel too far where your house is. didn't pay tax. or education for your grandchildren. i don't even know. do you have to -- does anybody know the answer to that stuff? >> let's talk about this with cnn legal analyst norm eisen, a special counsel to the house judiciary committee during former president trump's first impeachment trial. i wonder, norm, what you think hearing that self-own from the former president. >> well, brianna, thanks for having me back on the program. it does add to the quantum of evidence in the existing case. very serious tax fraud case.
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trump's lawyers and others try to poo-poo it as mere fringe benefits but we know these are serious cases. people go to jail as leon a did in her tax fraud case but adds to the own growing risk of the former president, this case is not just pointed at weisselberg, not just pointed at the trump organization but also at the man whose name is on that company. >> he says in those remarks at that rally, does anyone know? he's talking about does anyone know about, i guess, these rules when it comes to, quote unquote, fringe benefits. but there's something in that indictment that may be contradicts what he' saying there and that is this separate ledger. >> yes. brianna, the most interesting part of the indictment against mr. weisselberg and the trump companies is in paragraph 19 where the indictment talks about -- it's incredible
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actually. it is like something out of a martin score say si movie, they tracked and treated many of these fringe benefits as part of weisselberg's authorized annual compensation so they wouldn't pay him too much it dez in the indictment. however, the corporate defendants falsified other compensation records. so in essence, they're pleading two sets of books and of course we know that that is an important part of the larger case that prosecutors are attempting to develop against trump himself. two sets of books on taxes, two sets of books for banks, two sets for insurance companies, so we see they're building a pattern they then want to roll out and use against trump if they can. >> jw verret, former part of the transition team, said that two sets of books he would use that as an example in a fraud case. i thought that was interesting. i do want to ask you about
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another story that we're following and that is the trump personally tried to reach out to arizona election officials following his narrow loss in november. according to the arizona republic, trump along with close allies like rudy jewel januariny and kelly ward actually tried to pressure election officials in maricopa county. let's listen to a voice mail that giuliani left for republican mayor bill gates previously obtained by cnn. >> bill, it's rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer. if you get a chance, would you please give me a call. i have a few things i like to talk over with you. maybe we can get this thing fixed up. i really think it's a shame that republicans sort of were both in in this situation. i think there may be a nice way to resolve this for everybody. >> what do you think about that? >> well, brianna, at the state's united democracy center, bipartisan, which i cochair with former gop governor christie todd wittman, we've tracked very
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closely these efforts around the country. and it reminds me of the georgia case, which we know is under investigation by georgia fulton county d.a. willis and those words by giuliani, the authorized representative, the attorney of donald trump, suggesting that they can get it fixed up, that there's a nice resolution, i think it raises serious issues under arizona law just as the georgia trump's request that they find 11,000 some odd votes just one more than he needed to win raises serious questions under georgia law. so the story of attack on our democracy, the attack on our voting by trump and those around him is still unfolding. >> i'm just blown away that he left a voice mail. it's unbelievable. norm, great to see you. thank you so much. >> thanks, brianna. all right.
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at his second campaign style rally since leaving office, former president trump also said this about disinformation. >> they said today -- i heard and there's a word disinformation. it's called -- if you say it enough and keep saying it, just keep saying it, they'll start to believe you. we can't let that happen. >> what a concept. joining us now cnn political extraordinary s.e. cupp. carry on the sunday, those comments about disinfo, does he know he's looking in a mirror? what's your take on it? >> yeah. obviously that's ironic. he's the disinformer, but listen, i'm not laughing at that. i think that's real ominous and real scary. he is still got an audience. it's increasingly dwindling, i think. it's getting smaller but it is potent. and to watch him play the greatest hits at this rally
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again and see a lot of people sort of rejoicing at it and taking it in, taking all the new disinformation in, that scares me. you know, that's a group of people that i think make us all less safe, less safe with lies, less safe from extremism and political violence, less safe from disinformation. that to me was a warning. >> well, what blew my mind was the way he was just discovering disinformation. >> have you heard of this word? there's a word for it, john. >> if you repeat it enough, people believe it. >> yeah. that's what he did. obviously, he's aware of it, sure. >> your point about violence, there's another riff he repeated about ashli babbitt. this is something that's been going on right wing circles and now the ex-president amplify it is sinister. let's take a listen. >> and by the way, who shot ashli babbitt? who shot ashli babbitt?
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who? who shot ashli babbitt? we all saw the hand. we saw the gun. >> of course the doj ruled the officer acted in self defense, that's obvious for those watching the clip. what's your take on why this rift is being repeated by ex-president trump. >> listen, this is not true. seth rich, this president will exploit anything, anything, even the tragic death of his own supporter, to promote himself. it's horrific, it's grotesque not at all surprising. >> what do you think is behind it, though? >> again, it's -- i think to a point trumpism, the head space, let's see how far i can go. what can i convince my supporters of? and in service of my own self promotion, to make me look better, aggrieved, injured like the victim. he is the victim in this scenario which is mind boggling, boggling. >> i think that's the button
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that's being hit. all right. switching topics. >> all right. >> you ready? >> i don't know. >> all right, all right, all right. matthew mcconaughey said america is just going through puberty, folks. let's take a listen. >> happy birthday, america. yes, indeed. as we celebrate our independence today, as we celebrate our birth as a nation, a day that kick started a revolution to gain our sovereignty. let's admit that this last year's trip around the sun was also another head scratcher. but let's also remember that we are babies. you know? as a country. we're basically going through puberty in comparison to other country's timeline. >> first of all, he owes you royalties for the glasses. second of all, the not so subtle american flag behind him, is this the kind of wisdom -- >> he's running. >> is there a point to which we
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can write off some of our difficulties in society as to growing pains? i'm not sure who he is comparing us to because we're the longest lasting democracy. >> i don't know what he's talking about. i think he meant adolescence, right? not puberty. >> that was the civil war. >> i don't know. i don't know what puberty was like for you, john. it was terrifying for me. and. >> apparently for mr. mcconaughey. >> all the changes. but puberty or adolescence generally indicates that you're evolving toward something mamature. i don't see the same parallels here in this country. i don't see us evolving to maturity. i see us really sort of going backwards a little bit in our evolution. so, i don't know what he's talking about. is that his charm? maybe. >> that's the open-endedness charm of if you don't understand, must be something profound. there are signs, though, that actually some things may be moving in the right direction. new polls showing 47% of americans think the country is on the right track, while 49% think it's on the wrong track.
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so the reason that's significant is those numbers are a change from where they were in january. what is your read? >> that does not make me feel good. i think that i want that 47% number to be higher. i'm not surprised it's sort of hanging precariously on a raiser's edge there. look, this country has big problems. i spent all of 2020 saying these problems don't go away just because we get trump out. i did a whole series on cnn called what comes next to talk about all the things we have to address when someone new is in there, economic issues, crime, there's lots of stuff going on. i think the worst and most dangerous, though r the culture wars and they are raging. they are not being quelled by the fact that joe biden, a much more calming, saner presence in the white house is there. they are being stoked and fermented. and i think the culture wars are the most ominous, dangerous force driving our country a
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drift. they are pitting americans against american. they're tearing communities and families apart. they're responsible for disinformation and lies and the corruption of science and fact and truth. if we can't figure that out, i fear we're really going to be a very, very dark place. >> you think we can call tries in the culture wars? >> incentives are to double and triple down on the culture wars. that's scary. >> listen, se cupp, great to have you on set. thank you very much. tropical storm elsa surging towards florida, threatening to disrupt search and rescue efforts in surfside. when will it make landfall? president biden weighing in on richardson's suspension and stunning new details about britney spears conservatives torship battle. why she called 911 the day
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this morning tropical storm elsa is expected to bring heavy rain, damaging winds and potentially dangerous storm to florida. joining us now the director of the national hurricane sender. so, ken, we just learned that search and rescue operations have resumed in surfside. what is the impact of this storm surge potentially on that effort? >> yeah, we're really looking at some of the outer rain bands probably not much in the way of storm surge for that area, but we're really going to be looking at the next few days is the storm starts to get across cuba and get closer, start getting into day tuesday, some of the outer rain bands that's what we'll have to look at. most of those impacts will be in southwest florida, but a system like this one, elsa, not well structured really spreads outs. some of the rain bands could be hundreds of miles away from the
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ce center. >> how significant do you think this is, it's a tropical storm, this is something folks should be keeping an eye out for specially this early in the season, correct? >> absolutely, john. we have a saying there's no such thing as just a tropical storm because it really is about those impacts. even if it's not fully structured, look at the rainfall. some areas getting 4 to 6 inches of rainfall and there is actually some storm surge for the west coast of florida where you can see 2 to 4 feet of storm surge from bonita beach up to swanny river including tampa bay. this doesn't mean you're not going to get big impacts. >> given the storm surge and rain we're seeing, we learned florida is not bedrock but limestone, how much of these tropical storms can affect flooding inland where folks might not have been used it to in the past? >> it really can because if you think about the signs of the
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storm going back to the satellite and looking at the rainfall forecast, think about the keys where you can get 2 to 4 inches of rain but look all the way to tallahassee and even looking further north ward into georgia and the carolinas, you can still get several inches of rain. tropical rain is so efficient and comes down quickly and accumulates fast. urging to pay attention. >> ken graham, thank you for all you do. thank you for joining us on "new day." coming up, former cosby koe star felicia apologizing for her support for bill cosby's release from prison. how are her latest comments landing at her al ma matter? >> richardson barred from the olympic games. is there a double standards when it comes to using marijuana? d. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health.
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former cosby show co-star felicia richard apologized for comments she made. last week after his sex assault conviction was overturned she tweeted finally a terrible wrong is being righted. a miscarriage of justice is corrected along with a photo of cosby. and that comment sparked backlash from many people, including at howard university where richard was recently named dean of the school of fine arts saying her words lack sensitivity towards survives of sexual assault. and friday she apologized to the school's students and parents. let's talk with a howard university student who says that felicia richard's tweet was irresponsible. thank you so much for joining us today. i think we're all very curious to know what students at howard
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are thinking. what are you thinking? what did you think initially when you saw her tweet the one with the picture of bill cosby? >> yes, absolutely. thank you so much for having me this morning. i absolutely think it lacked irresponsibility. i mean, it was irresponsible. it lacked a lot of empathy. i can see as with her personal relationship with bill cosby where her words could be coming from, but in her position she has to think about her students first. she has to think about how her words, her actions will affect her students and even how the lack of trustworthiness may come into play when she actually begins her role in august. >> how are her words affecting students? what are the discussions that you are hearing around her tweet? >> a lot of my peers, students, classmates feel that it leads to a lack of trustworthiness, like i said. because if you have those people you feel you cannot run to, you
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cannot talk to, that will make you feel safe and make you feel heard, then it can make you feel like you don't know who you are. you don't know who you are in this position. with a lot of freshman coming into howard university in august, it can open up a lot of feelings of they don't feel safe, they don't feel comfortable in the place that they're in and they don't feel they can run to their dean and tell people, okay, this is what happened to me or if they're ready to move forward it may make you feel like you're taking ten steps back from the place that you already are in. i can see a personal relationship, but sometimes it makes our students and even people that are victims of sexual assault feel like can you see the fine line between having a personal relationship and doing the right thing? >> you've said that she needs to regain the trust of students. what if she can't? >> i'm not sure how she moves forward from that position. and i think that that's a decision for dean rashad to make. how do i move forward if i
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cannot regain the trust of my students in i don't think that means stepping down. i don't think that means howard terminating her as the dean, but i think she has to take those next very steps. just like you said, the apology that was prompted after she made that statement. i don't know that that gains the trust of her students as she moves forward. it seems as though it was reactionary rather than taking the stance because she truly apologized for her actions. so i'm not sure. i think there are steps she can take to gain that trustworthiness, holding forums, not just keeping administration and administration holding her accountable and her taking those classes from them but her holding forums for the students to come forward and say, this is the problem i had. this is how you can fix it. this is how you will actually help me move forward and be more safe, feel more safe, comfortable and trust you more as an administrator. >> thank you for being with us this morning. we'll certainly be watching, as you said, she is coming to the
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school a little later this summer. bria scott, thank you. >> thank you. chicago's holiday weekend was marred by violence. so is the crime really going down like the mayor says? the lengths bill barr went to protect president trump and his own legacy.
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♪ me and you we are the same ♪ ♪ me and you have all the fame we need ♪ ♪ indeed, you and me are we ♪ ♪ me and you singing in the park ♪ ♪ me and you, we're waiting for the dark ♪ ♪ it was a violent holiday weekend in chicago, ten people reportedly killed. more than 30 wounded in shootings across the city. as mayor lori lightfoot is publicly insisting that crime in her city is down, which led to this tense exchange with a reporter. >> do you feel personally responsible for the -- your rhetoric, your heated rhetoric is responsible for this off the
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charts violent crime in the city of chicago? >> the premise of your question which is it's chaos everywhere and the fact of the matter is, sir, which you also didn't point out but i will so we get this straight, is that we're actually seeing a decline in homicides and shootings. yes, sir -- >> there are thousands -- >> do you owe an apology to the victims of violent crime, the thousands of unsolved shooting and murders and stabbings and random stabbings, do you owe these people any apology? >> once again, sir, i ask you to get your facts right. crime is not out of control in our city. in fact, crime is on the decline. all of our major indexes show that the decline in crime and our homicides and our shootings year over year are down. that's a fact, sir. >> cnn's omar jimenez is with us now from chicago. omar, i know you've been looking at chicago's crime statistics. what can you tell us about what
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is the truth here? >> yeah, brianna. the fact is we are seeing significant decreases in homicides especially compared to the beginning of the year and especially compared to this point last year. now, when you look through the numbers through june 30th for the first time this year the number of homicides through june 30th again was down compared to the same time last year. so, you see the number of homicides down and the number of shooting victims is still up, though, roughly 14% with the number of shootings up 10%. one thing to keep in mind, though, for perspective n january, the number of shootings was up 46% compared to the same time last year. it was down to 20% in may and now here we are at 10. so still up but trending in the right direction. and then when you look at the the month of june alone, roughly 20% drop in homicides compared to june of 2020, which is critical, that first month of summer violence so to speak. and then when you look at the number of shootings and shooting
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victims also down as well. now, there is still significant work to be done, of course. you look at the past weekend, at least ten people killed and even more shot. and also to keep in mind, that these numbers are compared to what was already a spike in violence over the course of 2020 when you compare it to 2019, the number of homicides is still up 35% compared to that year and that was a year where homicides had been decreasing for a third year in a row. but, it is a good start to summer here when you see the trend of where these numbers are going. i actually asked a chicago police superintendent about this when i spoke to him not too long ago about a week ago or so and he said that even though the potential for violence goes up when you have a reopen summer and more people back out on the streets, he also says it allows them to get back more into a regular rhythm of managing the violence and something similar mayor lori lightfoot told me as
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well. was bill barr donald trump's h hatchet man? barr's first role in office, scandals bubbling up months after his departure, including how the doj seized reporters' phone records. joining me now to discuss is elie honig, senior political legal analyst for cnn and author of the new book "hatchet man" how bill barr corrupted the justice department hits bookshelves tomorrow. welcome. congratulations. thank you for joining us for your first book interview. >> thank you, john. it is my first book. i saw it i don't know if this is allowed or not, it's on the bookshelves now. that's a moment as you know having written books yourselves. >> it's a big moment and that means people can go out and buy it. let's go do that. the initial sales matter the most. this is a really well-written book, not surprisingly. you do not need to be a lawyer to appreciate the moral story it
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tells and how it contrasts with your life as a prosecutor given the surprising absence of prosecution experience of bill barr's justice department. i want to ask, you don't pull any punches. you come right out towards the top and say bill barr is a liar. strong words. why? >> i thought hard about whether to say it that way or not. both fields i've worked in the law and media we're hesitant to call somebody a liar. it's the most dirty four-letter word you can call somebody. however, i decided look, i'm not pulling punches here. the man lied to us not just once, not just twice but over and over throughout his tenure including starting with the mueller report but many things beyond that, the firing of the southern district u.s. attorney. remember that when he said, oh, he's stepping down. few hours later the u.s. attorney said no i'm not. he lied to us about the threat of election fraud. things large and small throughout his tenure i'm not willing to let that sit. i'm going to call it out. i'm not alone. federal judges, multiple federal
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judges called him out for obfuscating, not being credible. they said his statements do not align with the fact. all the polite ways of saying liar. i'm not going to be polite, he's a liar. >> let's talk about what motivates that. he came in and he seemed like he was comparatively adult, served as attorney general under bush 41. but he began this pattern of pushing the trump agenda. i want to show a quote from the book that really explains this. it says, barr didn't merely sit by and let doj get dragged into politics by trump or others. he made it happen himself by design and with gusto. often directly in response to trump's corrupt entreaties. >> i think he changed. i think he saw an opportunity. so you're right to set the stage here. bill barr is one of two people in u.s. history to be attorney general twice. he was a.g. from '91 to '93 under george h.w. bush senior
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and 25 years he decemisappearedm public view. why did he want this job back in 2018 after trump just brow beaten jeff sessions? and i offer two explanations based on his words and actions in the book. bill barr has this extreme view of the law. he views the president and the presidency as above and beyond. he took that to such an extreme where he lost continually in court. but his view is the president is above the law. you can't subpoena him. you can't question him. you can't do anything to him. i think that's wrong. the courts have rejected that. the other thing i think is less known, less understood about bill barr is he is what i call a real culture warrior, right? he gave a little bit of a hint of this towards the end of his tenure talked about the importance of and i quote god's law at notre dame. that's an extreme alarming thing for an attorney general to say. and we found speeches and articles that bill barr had written in the '90s saying even
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more extreme things about how are we going to retake the hill in favor of rely ireligiousty. he used to rail against the homosexual movement and blame that for the down fall of society. so i think those motivations really pushed barr to not only pursue the a.g. job and abuse it. >> so how unusual -- that culture war talk even from the evangelical right is something we have become used to. but how unusual is it for an attorney general to speak that way from the pulpit at notre dame? >> it's completely unacceptable to speak that way as the attorney general. if you want to speak that way as a candidate for office, as a preacher, as just a person of faith, god bless, no pun intended. however, not as a prosecutor. i was raised at the justice department. i write about it in the book that the only things you have going for you, your credibility. you never lie, never stretch the
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fact. you're not part of politics. you're not part of religion. you're not part of any agenda. and that's why i wrote this book because i sat here a lot of times at this desk for two years watching what he was doing to my beloved justice department that i was raised in and trashing those core fundamental principles. >> i think that's one of the things your book explains are the norms the justice department is based upon, the experience over decades. you know, barr has been on a rehab tour. you've written about this and pointed out that while he may have finally hit what was too much for him in donald trump's grasping for executive power, that the idea that he wasn't part of the problem in the run-up to the election is just wrong. let's play a clip of him talking to our own wolf blitzer. >> elections held with mail found substantial fraud and coercion. >> farce widespread fraud we haven't seen that since -- >> well, we haven't had the kind of widespread use of mail-in
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ballots has being proposed. >> you said you were worried that a foreign country could send thousands of fake ballots to people and it might be impossible to detect. what are you basing that on? >> i'm basing that as i said repeatedly i'm basing that on logic. >> pardon? >> logic. >> so, in that clip, was he being a true believer, a loyal soldier, was he lying then or was he lying now? >> he was lying then and trying to fix it now and i do not accept that. that's part of the reason i wrote this book and glad he's trying to rehabilitate his image and claim i came out against the big lie. he did in december. but he's failing to tell us that in that interview with wolf and for months prior to that he was one of the primary proponents. he was fanning the flames of the big lie. i lay it out in the book. look, one of the hallmarks of the entire trump administration, bill barr and many others, is this idea we saw earlier, donald trump the clip where he says if you say it enough times people
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will believe it. there is such thing as truth and accountability. the truth is bill barr is one of the primary proponents, he is one of the people primarily to blame for the big lie and january 6th i don't care what he says now, he bears some responsibility for that as well. accountability matters and truth matters. >> truth matters, indeed. elie honig, congratulations. >> thanks, john. appreciate it. >> on the new book "hatchet man" out tomorrow and in bookstores today. we have stunning new details about britney spears conservatorship battle and why she called 911 the day before her emotional testimony. who are the nine men charged in a standoff in massachusetts and what kind of threat does their group pose?
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♪ whether you're one of millions of americans who lost their job during the pandemic and are looking for work, or you're entering the job market
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for the first time, the post-pandemic work search sun charted territory. joining us now is ken lender. celebrity talent agent and veteran career counselor. best-selling book "career for choreography, step-by-step for finding a new job." ken, great to have you on "new day." this pandemic has completely changed the job market. i mean, what about folks who are entering the workforce for the first time? what challenges are they facing specifically? >> well, john, the challenges they face, they don't have experience to fall back on, with so many people wanting jobs and floridians can choose the best person, and best qualified person for the job if you don't have experience, you're a little bit of a detriment, but the key is employers will buy and that person entering the workforce
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for the first time, must show they have the potential to be great in the job they're applying for. >> how do you show that? >> well, i think you show it by being prepared. the internet is a great resource. be prepared. know all about the company you're interviewing with. hopefully, the person, you know who that person is before you interview. you do your homework for them. because i know as an employer how somebody represents themselves in an interview with me is how they'll represent my company, should i hire them. so, it's important to be buttoned up and prepared. and know what it is that makes you special. think about the things you've done in past summer jobs. your internships, your school life. your personal life. that qualifies you and sets you apart and makes you special so you positively separate yourself from other candidates. >> so, that's really the effort. i mean, the latest labor department date dal shows there
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were 850,000 new jobs in june, right, the strongest one-month gain since at least last summer. >> yes. >> you think doing your homework thinking about what makes you special, that's enough to help folks stand out in the competitive job market even when they don't have experience? >> well, i think that. those two things and also, john, having great references. because references can be really important, because they know you. and if it's close, a reference, a really terrific compelling individual, can really make the difference in one getting a job. so, there are a number of components that can help somebody show their potential. another thing is to really be anticipatory. how the sense of what they're going to ask you, and how you can advance a company. know about that company. as i said, do your homework and give responses that show that you've given great thought. and that you have the ability to really make a difference for the company you're interviewing with.
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>> that's great advice, references definitely make a difference pipe can attest to that. i love this, you say there's three things to keep in mind. find a job you love, job you believe in, a job you're good at. >> yes. >> that really covers all the key bases in life. but especially as unemployment benefits are expiring in september, when should passion take a back seat in respect to securing a job for folks? >> i think passion is also good for an employer. an employer wants passion. excited, whose going to own the opportunity. so i think passion is always important. but as you said, the three things, if you love what you do, if you can't wait to go to work every day, if you believe in what you do, and you're proud of what you're doing and you're being productive, and you do what you're good at, the first two criteria will help you be happy in your job which is so
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important. you want meaning in your job. and do what you are good at will hopefully be the criterion that makes you successful. and you want both. you want to be happy, and you want to be successful. >> and the two will lead to each other, doors will open where there were no doors before that. >> yes. >> ken lindnor. the book is "career choreography" thanks for joining us on "new day." >> thank you, john. pleasure. controversies brewing ahead of the olympic games set to kick off this month in tokyo. after sha'carri tweeted, i'm sorry i can't be your companion this year, i'm sorry, i'll be your world champ next year. let's bring in christine brennan
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who is a "usa today" sports columnist. i know you've been watching the developments so carefully, christine. it's very upsetting to a lot of fans not to see sha'carri richardson participating in these games. i just wonder what you're thinking about how she has responded to this and how this might change things going forward. >> brianna, this is a sports tragedy. this is a young woman 21 years ago old ready to burst on the scene. she had done it nationally. now a gold medal favorite. could have made millions because of that. she's fast, she's fun, everything about her was screaming out i'm going to be a star. then when she found out her biological mother passed away, she went into a tailspin emotionally, she reached for marijuana. one hopes and wishes that she could have had someone from usa track and field, a mental health hotline, something. i think that's what every olympic committee around the world should have available for
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athletes more readily or athletes know exists. so instead of maybe getting into trouble because she knew, of course, marijuana is a banned substance. a lot of people are saying why is it banned, right? well, the u.s., it sounds ridiculous now. but these are over 200 countries in the world making up decisions. many even criminalize it and throw people in jail. so it's not just a u.s. decision. but the heartache for this young woman. the way she handled it. beautifully, class, dignity. she didn't do what lance armstrong did and try to throw people under the bus, no. she stood up and said i did it. i take my suspension. that's going to held her in great stead moving forward and with such grace. >> as you said she did handle this with grace. i wonder if things are going to, you know, to change moving forward. when it comes to these rules, it
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sounds like it won't because of all of the other nations involved in making this rule. >> one would hope that this would be a tipping point, a watershed moment. and i think it might be. so, yes, there are a lot of countries out there, as i said, this is not a u.s. decision. i think, sometimes, obviously, we look at things through the prism of the red, white and blue, our country, and what we think and that can work sometimes on international stages. what we're about to see in tokyo at the olympics, that may not be the case. but we're dealing i'm talking with sources, they're saying they've got it do something about this. this is the big one. this is -- while pays a huge price with another olympics three years away, not four. that's good news, paris. let's hope there is movement now to take marijuana off the banned substance list. >> i want to talk now about something else that is popping up about the olympics. and that has to do with a type of cap for swimming.
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a sole cap as it is called. certainly favored by one black swimmer which is a rarity, quite frankly. and it to accommodate, especially for women natural hair. and this has been banned for use in the upcoming tokyo olympics. the international swimming federation says that these caps don't fit the natural form of the head. and that athletes don't require them. i wonder how you're viewing this controversy. >> there's good news here, brianna. in the last couple of ours, fina, the international body for swimming, the federation is going to reconsider its decision. the outpouring over the last 48 hours has been extraordinary on this. you can like what we were talking about were things are set in stone this could be something that they could change their mind. and i think it's a terrible look for swimming.
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what does swimming trying to do right now, trying two diversify and trying to be more inclusive around the world in the united states. very few black children are swimming compared to white children. it's about safety and health and learning how to swim. michael phelps and the others have championed this cause, just in keeping kids safe, much less making them olympians at some point, elite swimmers. most of these organizations around the world are failing in terms of attracting a more diverse child -- you know, more diverse audience to their sport. so, that's the bigger picture. that swimming was basically putting up a stop sign saying forget about it. if you're black, a person of color, don't even think about it and that's a devastating message to send. i think that's another reason why they're reconsidering it this morning and that's a good thing. >> totally. i mean, they have to say, you belong in swimming. and that means saying your hair belongs in swimming. it's so important that is said. christine brennan, thank you so
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much. "new day" continues right now. i'm brianna keilar alongside john avlon on this "new day." the search has just resumed for victims of the surfside condo collapse after the still-standing tower was demolished overnight. plus, a tense standoff on interstate 95 between police and a heavily armed militia group. and former president trump essentially admitting to tracks crimes but claims it's not illegal. new york prosecutors might feel differently. and just in a new reporting on a 911 call from britney spears just hours before her emotional testimony in court. ♪ a very good morning to our viewers here in the united states and around the


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