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a standoff between police and 11 armed men ends with 11 in custody. >> you can imagine 11 armed individuals standing with long guns slung on an interstate highway at 2:00 in the morning certainly raises concerns. as soon as tomorrow, the state of florida will demolish the rest of the collapsed building in surfside. >> it is structurally unsound. >> the fear was that the hurricane may take the building
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down for us and take it down in the wrong direction, on top of the pile where we have victims. this pandemic is certainly not over for people who are unvaccinated. their risk is very high right now. this delta variant that's more contagious than any of the other variants we've seen thus far. i'm pamela brown in washington. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you are in the "cnn newsroom" on this saturday. we begin with news of a massive global ransomware attack that has hit hundreds of businesses. this could impact you. cybersecurity experts say it is the worst they have seen and that hackers deliberately struck on the july 4th weekend to create maximum chaos and force companies to make even bigger ransom payments. president biden has just weighed in, saying the u.s. government is still not certain if russia played a role here. but what appears to be clear at this hour is that this is the
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same gang of cyber criminals believed to operate out of eastern europe or russia that hit the meat supplier jbs foods in the spring. cnn white house correspondent arlette saenz is traveling with the president in michigan. arlette, this is a huge issue for president biden if russia is in fact to blame for this recent attack. >> reporter: pamela, these types of security attacks were a main focal point of president biden's sit-down with russian president putin. the software attack hit a company that provides many products to management companies. cybersecurity experts believe that same group responsible for the attack against the meat supplier, that group, believed to originate either in eastern europe or in russia, that they were responsible for this attack. the federal government has not ascribed responsibility to anyone just yet. president biden, as he traveled here in michigan, he told
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reporters he was briefed on this attack while he was on air force one making his way over here. and he said that the federal government does not yet know who is responsible. but he suggested it may not be the russian government. take a listen to what he said to reporters a short while ago in central lake michigan. >> first of all, we're not sure who it is. the director of the intelligence community gave me a deep dive on what's happened. and i'll know better tomorrow. and if it is either with the knowledge of and/or consequence of russia, then i told putin we will respond. we're not certain. the initial thinking was it was not the russian government. >> reporter: now, in those comments, the president was referencing his discussion, that face-to-face sit-down with russia's president vladimir putin in geneva last month where the president said he told putin
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if these type of cyber attacks were to continue, that the u.s. would be ready to respond. of course these issues of cybersecurity and cyber threats between the u.s. and russia are really such a point of contention between the two countries. now, as we start to learn more about this ransomware attack that's affecting that software vendor, the u.s. officials have said they will continue to monitor it, that they're working with the vendor, and also ensuring that those possibly impacted parties are notified as they want to make sure the impact of this is not as far-reaching as perhaps those hackers had hoped. >> government officials at this hour, i just got off the phone with one source, they're still trying to piece together all this information for attribution to see who is upon for this. as you point out, cyber experts think it's this criminal gang based out of russia or eastern europe. arlette saenz, thank you so much.
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what started as a traffic stop escalated into a nine-hour standoff between police and heavily armed men wearing military style uniforms. this is quite a story here. let's bring in cnn's evan mcmorris-santoro, standing by with the very latest. >> reporter: hi, pam. there's really a sigh of relief north of boston tonight as this armed standoff that blocked a major interstate ended peacefully. >> we were able to successfully resolve this situation through a combination of negotiation and some tactical maneuvers. >> reporter: an hours-long standoff between heavily armed men and police on one of the nation's busiest interstates ended without incident as authorities took 11 people into custody. still, many questions are left about what exactly was behind this potentially dangerous saturday morning just north of boston. >> they wanted to be heard. they wanted to be -- a variety of -- not demands, but requests
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that they just be allowed to leave the area, transit the area without any accountability. and at the end of the day we didn't accommodate that. >> reporter: overnight a highway patrol car came on two vehicles in the breakdown lane on i-95. police say the heavily armed men wearing tactical gear were attempting to refuel their vehicles. after learning they were not carrying firearm licenses, the state trooper called for backup. some of the men fled into nearby woods. the standoff began. >> we are currently engaged with the substance through our hostage negotiation team. and we are hopeful that we will be able to resolve this peacefully with them. we're committed to a negotiation with them, having a conversation. >> reporter: portions of i-95 were closed in both directions for several hours on a busy holiday weekend. those in nearby homes were told
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to go into lockdown as police attempted to negotiate with the group. >> i don't know if you can see this, he's loading his gun right now. >> reporter: the group appears to have live streamed their side of the standoff online. it's unclear if the man filming the incident was among the men arrested. >> we are not antigovernment. our nation, which our flag is right here, has a treaty with your government. >> reporter: they appear to belong to a group called rise of the moors which seems to be connected with the moorish sovereignty movement which believes, among other things, an 18th century treaty between the u.s. and morocco grants them special rights. in livestreams from the highway, one member insisted they did not break laws and did not intend to be hostile. police say the men were passing through the state on their way to attend some sort of training operation. >> we're abiding by the journey laws of the u.s. courts. >> reporter: but the laws are clear. >> massachusetts does not allow the carrying of loaded or
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unloaded firearms on an interstate highway such as this. you can imagine 11 armed individuals standing with long guns slung on an interstate highway at 2:00 in the morning certainly raises concerns. >> reporter: the men eventually surrendered to police on site without incident. authorities seized a still undisclosed number of guns. >> i can share with you that a number of firearms have been seized. i cannot share with you the exact number. the two vehicles that were at the scene are being towed from the scene. they will be processed pursuant to court authorized search warrant and only then will we know the exact number of firearms that have been seized. >> reporter: the vital artery that is i-95 was finally reopened to holiday travelers but the investigation around the incident is ongoing. it's expected officials will look into this little-known group and their motivations. >> a bunch of armed men are traveling in a car to do something and we don't know what that something is. that's where the investigation is going to go right now.
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>> reporter: so look, things now safe again and open for travel right there in boston. but authorities say the men they arrested today will appear in court for the first time on tuesday, which there will be a lot more questions about just what happened last night and this morning and just what it means for the coming period of time here in the country. pam? >> that's right, especially at a time when the fbi has said that domestic terrorism is such a huge threat in this country. so clearly we need to learn a lot more about what was going on here in this group. evan mcmorris-santoro, thank you so much. search crews in surfside, florida are combing through as much rubble as they can before a potentially major storm makes things even more difficult. tropical storm elsa could impact the area as early as monday. officials say they want to tear down what's left of the champlain towers south building as soon as possible before the storm's winds arrive. cnn's brian todd joins me now
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from surfside. so what is the latest there on the ground, brian? >> reporter: pamela, we're waiting to hear, and we should hear from officials very soon, because they just gathered for a news conference, waiting to hear the timeline for the demolition of the remaining part of the champlain towers south complex. is it going to take place as early as tomorrow or the next couple of days? we are going to hear that timeline hopefully very shortly now. but again, the urgency to demolish that building, because of the dangers it presents here, it really has ramped up in the last 36 hours or so, because we've gotten some really stark visuals of the building that remains up and the things that are hanging from it. there are concrete slabs, there's a large concrete column hanging from the side of that building. there are also questions about the stability of that building. there have been sensors that have gone on indicating cracking going on. all of this as rescue teams are working just a few feet away from it. plus with the arrival of the
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tropical storm possibly monday, again, with the high winds there, they're really concerned about that building still remaining up. here is what the miami mayor, francis suarez, had to say about all this a short time ago. >> first responders who are there on the scene, who are risking their lives, who are underneath a very unstable ground in terms of some of the search efforts below ground and on top of files that are shifting and moving, that building could come down at any moment. we had to stop work a day and a half ago because it had shifted six to 12 inches. and so, you know, with a looming hurricane, it's more important than ever that a decision, you know, to take down the building be expedited. >> reporter: and again, the mayor spoke about a looming hurricane, but when it gets to south florida, it could just be a tropical storm. but still, with 40-mile-an-hour winds, maybe 40 to 60-mile-an-hour winds, pamela, we've talked to structural engineers who say that will
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present a lot of problems if that structure remains up. there's a ton of debris on the open face of that building, hanging from it, presenting a lot of danger. >> and we just learned officials there will be holding a press conference soon to give us updates. we'll be monitoring that for any new information. brian todd, live for us in surfside, florida, thanks so much. and coming up for you this evening, as the delta variant spreads, los angeles urges everyone to mask up, even if they're vaccinated. the public health director joins me live coming up. also ahead, a massive cyberattack hits hundreds of businesses. i'll speak to an expert who says it's the worst ransomware attack the u.s. has ever seen. and in the gulf of mexico, have you seen these incredible images of a so-called eye of fire that erupted after a gas leak in an underwater pipeline? but first, new reporting tonight on the lengths donald trump and his allies are willing to go to reverse his election loss in arizona.
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malwarebytes new details about the trump white house's scramble to try to overturn the 2020 election results. in the weeks after his defeat, donald trump, his attorney rudy giuliani, and arizona gop chair kelli ward targeted arizona election officials with a pressure campaign, according to "the arizona republic." but inlike in georgia where the gop secretary of state recorded a call with the president, the keymar -- key maricopa county election official refused to speak to trump. ron brownstein joins us. why are these latest revelations
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significant to you? >> happy fourth to you and everybody watching. i think there are two real important conclusions that come out of these revelations in arizona. one is that we simply do not know all the ways in which donald trump used and abused his power as president. it just underscores the need for a more comprehensive understanding of what he did in office. and all of the ways in which he may have gone beyond the proper boundaries of the use of presidential power, especially given that he may ask the country to restore it to him again in a little over three years. i was talking to our colleague john dean a couple of weeks ago for a story i was writing. he noted that when nixon left office, we had so much of a better idea of everything that had happened than we do under trump. i had the same feeling when the revelations came out about the subpoenaing of communications records for not only journalists but members of congress. we just don't know. as donald rumsfeld, who just passed this week, might have
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said, there are known unknowns. this underscores the risk in what so many republicans in states are trying to do, increasing political control over officials with election oversight. the actions by the republican state chair in arizona shows the risk in what's going on in terms of these red states trying to increase the leverage of elected officials, republican legislatures to influence the decisions of people who are supervising our elections. >> it sort of gives the game away. and you make an important point there because people might hear about this segment or be watching and think, oh, this happened in the past, i'm sick of donald trump and so forth. but here's the thing, it has to do with the future. it has to do with future elections and democracy and the core of it. listen to what arizona secretary of state katie hobbs said about the calls last night. >> we knew this was happening in georgia. we suspected there were some attempts to undermine the election here. and now we have it clearly in
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tapes. and, you know, arizona law makes it clear that interfering in an election is against the law. and that is exactly what this appears to be. >> so keep in mind, as georgia has opened a criminal investigations into trump's election scheme, michigan's gop controlled senate recommended the attorney general in michigan investigate people who pushed false claims to raise money or publicity for their own ends. donald trump raised millions of dollars pushing baseless claims about the election. should there be a federal probe over all these election shenanigans or protections put in place to prevent this in the future? >> the answer really is both. i think there are a lot of people who are uneasy, as i said, there's just so much we don't know, particularly about the post-election period. it is coming out episodically. the january 6th special
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committee, select committee in the house, may get at some of this. but there does need to be a more full accounting, not only because of the question of whether trump will try to attain these powers again, but also as we have discussed many times, this big lie about election fraud is becoming the basis for what is i think without question the most broad reaching attempt to roll back americans' right to vote since before the voting rights act in 1965. and these are laws passing in red state after red state, as i've written, on a completely party line basis with virtually every democrat voting no, every republican voting yes. and really, the only lever democrats have, the other big thing that happened in the last few days was the supreme court made clear the six republican appointees on the supreme court, further vitiated section 2 of the voting rights act after eviscerating the preclearance provisions. so the courts aren't going to be an answer. the one lever democrats have to push back on this is their control of congress and their
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ability to set a national floor for voting rights and as members have introduced lately, more protections for election officials. none of that can happen unless senate democrats agree to change the rules to allow that to pass with 51 votes. >> the onus right now is on congress to do something. but look, when you look at donald trump and where he is now, all these months after the election, there's sizable crowds that have been gathering there at his speeches. there's crowds gathering tonight. why has nothing seemed to diminish trump's appeal with the base, not even a historic loss? >> because he's as much of a demand side phenomenon as a supply side phenomenon. there is a substantial portion of the republican coalition, two-thirds to three-quarters, that feel as if the america they know is being irrevocably transformed by demographic and cultural change and they demand a voice. trump crystallized that feeling. he expressed it in the most
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harsh, belligerent, openly racist terms that we have seen from a national figure since george wallace in '68. but he didn't create it. and there is that demand in the republican party. and so i think he continues to feed on that. if he doesn't run, you see a number of republicans trying ways, ron desantis, marco rubio, ted cruz, tom cotton, to tries to scratch that same itch among a big portion of the republican base which by the way has made them very receptive to these a anti-small-d democratic maneuvers. trump is responding to it. if it's not him, there will be somebody else articulating those themes, maybe in not quite so personally belligerent a way, but this is part of our politics now and it's not going away. >> ron brownstein, we'll leave it there, thank you so much for coming on. happy fourth to you.
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new concerns tonight over the delta variant. the highly transmissible coronavirus train that's been detected in at least 98 countries. and according to the cdc, likely the driving factor behind the 10% spike in new u.s. cases this week. despite nearly 157 million americans being fully
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vaccinated, infection experts warn this variant will continue to feed off the people who haven't gotten their shots. here is what dr. william schaffner from vanderbilt university told me on friday. >> well, the more unvaccinated people are, the more opportunities for the virus to multiply. when it does, it mutates and it could throw off a variant mutation that is even more serious down the road. so unvaccinated people are potential variant factories. >> and as far as herd immunity goes, health officials say don't count on it at least anytime soon as long as this strain continues to rapidly spread. and california is one of 18 states with at least half its population fully vaccinated against covid-19. but its most populous city and county could be flirting with another wave of infections. this week, los angeles reported its most new cases in a single day since mid-april. and the state's positivity rate
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has doubled in recent weeks. now public health officials there are urging people to mask up if they're in public places indoors, even if they're fully vaccinated. barbara herrera joins me now, l.a. county's public health director. thank you so much for joining us, barbara. i want you to listen to what cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan reiner said earlier today about mask wearing. >> you shouldn't be concerned at all. my wife and i walked through a small antique store with plenty of people around today. we weren't wearing masks. we're fully vaccinated. i am not worried about contracting this virus. you can shed your mask if you are vaccinated. >> so dr. reiner says no mask if you're fully vaccinated. the cdc says the same thing. why do you recommend fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors? >> yeah, thank you so much, pamela, for having me.
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and obviously we agree both with cdc and lots of the medical experts across the country that are noting how much protection this vaccine gives fully vaccinated people. i do think you have to take into account local situations. and i want to point out that both the federal government and many state governments have actually asked fully vaccinated people to keep their masks on in other settings. and we all comply with that. we all wear our masks whenever we're on any public transit. we're wear our masks, regardless of vaccination status, when we're in health care facilities. we wear our masks when we're at schools in california. there are lots of settings where even know we know the vaccines provide powerful protection to those who are vaccinated, the slight risk that a vaccinated person could shed enough virus to infect somebody else, coupled with just creating less and less risk in those settings where there are many unvaccinated
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people, makes it a prudent tool that i think has its place in this full reopening that we've done in l.a. county. you know, i want to point out, since june 15th, we've almost tripled the number of new cases here in l.a. county, as more and more of our public health restrictions have disappeared, including the requirement to wear a face covering. now, we are not requiring people who are vaccinated to wear those face coverings indoors. we're just making a strong recommendation, if you're indoors, in a setting where you don't know everybody else's vaccination status and in fact there may be unvaccinated people around, for security for others and for safety for others, it is best at this point to prevent another surge here in l.a. county by having everyone in those settings, where it could be crowded and you're indoors, often with poor ventilation, to keep those face coverings on. >> so then do you think the cdc
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loosened its mask rules too soon? >> i think the cdc has been very clear that local jurisdictions need to adopt recommendations and requirements based on local conditions. and i think for all of us, you know, none of us want unvaccinated children under the age of 12 to be at increased risk as well. many folks may not know, you know, l.a. county is more than 10 million people. while we've done a great job getting folks vaccinated, 68% of our population 60 plus has received at least one dose of the vaccine. 59% of people 16 and over are fully vaccinated. that leaves us with 4 million people that are not yet vaccinated, including 1.3 million children under the age of 12. so as we go about our full reopening, i think it is prudent
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to make sure we're still taking care of unvaccinated people, be those adults who are not yet comfortable getting vaccinated or may not be able to get vaccinated because of medical conditions, or they're just young children who are not eligible to get vaccinated yet. >> so with the numbers you just laid out there, how much of vaccine hesitancy represents those numbers versus there's just so many people in california, so many people to get vaccinated, and that's a big factor here? >> i think it's a little bit of both. you know, improving access to vaccines has been a constant theme here in l.a. county. we have 765 permanent vaccination sites. this past week we had 270 mobile teams that were out doing pop-up sites in various communities, bringing vaccines to where people are living and working. but that work of improving access obviously needs to
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continue. we do also talk to lots of people who still have questions about the vaccine's safety. they have questions about its efficacy. they hear a lot of false information on social media that we need to counter. and we need to be able to give people time to get good information, to be able to feel like they have an opportunity to get all of their questions answered, so they too will feel comfortable doing what so many other people have already done and come in and get that vaccine. >> all right, barbara ferrer from the l.a. county health department, thanks so much. breaking news out of surfside, florida, authorities just announced they will suspend their search and rescue mission ahead of a planned demolition with the building. >> we're continuing to move forward with due diligence and setting a specific timeline for the demolition. we don't have that for you yet. search and rescue does have to pause temporarily while the demolition preparation is under way. and that, there is threat to the
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standing building that is posed to the first responders, as we've told you. so preparation includes activities like drilling into columns in the unsafe structure. so it has been determined by our engineers and our fire department in constant communication with the demolition team, as the process is under way, that we need to put a temporary pause. and we are continuing to receive updates about the condition of the standing structure. and we will begin the search and rescue once again on any sections of the pile that are safe to access as soon as we're cleared. >> be sure to stay with cnn. the news conference is ongoing. we'll bring you the very latest. also ahead, terrifying scenes out of japan when a giant mudslide came crashing into a city. that story, ahead. to gelato made from scratch. raise the jar to all five layers. raise the jar to the best gelato...
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people are now confirmed dead and at least 20 others are missing after a massive and sudden mudslide. this is the shocking moment a wall of mud and water swept through a popular coastal resort town southwest of tokyo. it damaged or destroyed as many as 300 homes. emergency crews searched for hours for survivors but suspended the search when darkness fell. japan's pacific coast has been experiencing torrential rains for days, expected to until at least tuesday. more mudslides could happen any time, according to officials. turning to new york where a grand jury indicted the trump organization and its cfo. allen weisselberg was brought into court in handcuffs on thursday and hit with 15 felony charges over an alleged tax fraud scheme that expand 15 years. but legal experts are split on
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where this case may be heading and just how worried other trump organization officials should be. palm beach county state attorney dave aaronberg joins me now, good to see, dave, happy fourth. do you think this is just the tip of the iceberg or is this the full extent of the charges, in your view? >> good evening, pamela. i think this is the tip of the iceberg. i think we're in the early innings here, because prosecutors want to get to the big fish. and that is donald trump. one way to do it is to go to the guy who was in the room when it happened, allen weisselberg. how do you get weisselberg to flip on trump? you have to charge him with a crime, because he wasn't going to flip on him if it was just promises or pleas. it was going to be a pair of handcuffs that could change his behavior. now, it was easy for weisselberg to thumb his nose at state prosecutors when he was a free man. but now he's got the feeling that have cold, unyielding pair of handcuffs around his wrist. and he better make that decision soon, because in prosecutor terms, the first in is the first
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to win. the best deal goes to the person who flips first. to me the issue is whether weisselberg flips before or after trump throws him overboard like trump did to michael cohen. so the big question is, when, i think, not if, weaisselberg flips. >> weisselberg is said to be essentially loyal to trump. prosecutors are hoping for a plea deal. what happens next for prosecutors if weisselberg doesn't intend to strike a plea deal? >> i think the prosecutors will look at weisselberg's family and they'll continue to squeeze weisselberg in other ways, because they already apparently gave a deal to jeff mcconney, the comptroller who works directly for weisselberg. mcconney appeared before the grand jury. that's why you saw a level of detail in the indictment that a lot of people didn't expect, because mcconney, in testifying before the grand jury, had to be given immunity. now you've got a cooperating witness, someone who worked
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directly for weisselberg. weisselberg is going to face a lot of problems if he doesn't flip. i think that is inevitable, because weisselberg is 73 years old. he doesn't want to spend five years or more in state prison. what's to say that trump will continue to support weisselberg? because according to michael cohen, trump promised cohen he would support him throughout the whole process. but as the legal bills started piling up, those promises went away. so using a metaphor, it's kill or be killed time. weisselberg has to decide. because if he doesn't cooperate and then trump is charged anyway, trump is certainly going to point the finger at weisselberg. >> what do you say to what the attorneys for the trump organization have contended, saying, look, this is about mistakes on weisselberg's personal tax returns, this is about politics, there are other firms that have done far worse. what do you say to that? >> pamela, when i listen to that, to me, those sounded a lot
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like admissions. i mean, if i were their lawyers, i would say stop talking, because you notice they're not denying that this stuff occurred. they're saying, this is just small ball, it's small potatoes. but, you know, i've never heard of a company perk of paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to tuition for a cfo's grandchildren. and if it was done, those companies would surely pay taxes on it. you can do whatever you want for fringe benefits but you have to pay taxes on it. i know they're talking about the car because the car is in a little bit of a gray area. but the car is not the extent of all this. you've got car, rental, tuition, christmas bonuses, cash. it's an interesting defense by saying, look, it's all a witch hunt. but i think what that did, pamela, was lower the expectations for a lot of people to where we were surprised that this is a scheme that was more deliberate and longer and much bigger than anticipated. and, importantly, showed a level of intent we didn't expect,
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because the trump organization, according to the indictment, had two separate sets of books, one for the irs, and one internally that tracked the hidden compensation given to weisselberg so they could deduct it from his salary. >> all right, david aronberg, thanks so much for joining us on this saturday. just two weeks from the tokyo games, one american athlete may miss the chance of a lifetime after testing positive for marijuana. not exactly a performance enhancing kind of drug. are the rules out of date? we'll ask sports analyst christine brennan, next. like we would treat our own moms, with care and respect. to us, the little things are the big things. which is why we do everything in our power to make buying a car an unforgettable experience. happy birthday. thank you. we treat every customer like we would treat our own moms. because that's what they deserve.
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we are less than three weeks away from the summer games in tokyo. and there are a lot of olympic stories in the news, right now. i am going to bring in cnn sports analyst, christine brennen, to run through some of them with me. hi, christine. happy fourth to you. so, let's talk about this story. it's been a real talker, among people. you know, the u.s. anti-doping agency announced, yesterday, that sprinter sha'carri richardson tested positive for marijuana. she has been suspended from the u.s. olympic team. accepted a one-month suspension that could still clear her to compete in tokyo if she is named to the team. what are the odds of that, christine? >> i think, everyone in the country, pamela, is rooting for that to happen because this is an athlete who has been honest and truthful. and said she made a mistake. she knew the rules. she wasn't supposed to be ingesting marijuana, smoking marijuana, whatever she was doing while she was competing. she did it. she owned up to it. and i -- she has -- there's such
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a sense -- overwhelming sense, in the country, of -- of how wrong this seems. what a sports tragedy this is. and how everyone would love to see her get that chance. but it would be in the relay, the four by 100 relay. it wouldn't be in the 100 meters which we won in eugene, oregon at the olympic trials. and was so brilliant. she can't do that because that -- that victory was erased, that was negated when she tested positive for marijuana. >> she told nbc's today show that she used this marijuana to cope with the unexpected death of her mother. which she learned about, from a reporter during an interview. take a listen. >> i apologize for the fact that i didn't know how to control my emotions or deal with my emotions. during that time. but sitting here, i -- i just say don't judge me because i am human. i'm you.
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i just happen to run a little faster. >> should we give athletes a little grace with something like this? you know, these -- as she says, these people aren't just athletes. they are also human beings. after i lost my mother, you know, i had significant mental-health issues, that i had to deal with. and, you know, should there be more -- more grace? >> it's a great point. the mental-health conversation that naomi osaka started a month or so ago, i think, actually comes into play here, pamela. if usa track and field had -- had a resource for her, other athletes, if they knew that they could call someone. so she has this -- here's this devastating news about her biological mother. and she's, also, at the most important event of her life, the olympic trials. and as she said, she was so emotional, she was so devastated, that she chose marijuana. if she could have chosen a phone call and had someone on the
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other end of the line saying, hey, let me talk you through this. let me come over. you come here. you know, being onsite. which is something, again, a conversation that a national/international conversation, we started because of naomi osaka and her conversation with -- with all of us through instagram at the french open. michael phelps in the olympic world in the united states has brought this up. others have talked about it, as well. it's a shame that there wasn't that resource for her. or if there was that resource, she didn't know to make that phone call or text or get in touch with that person. it seems, to me, that's something that every olympic athlete should have at -- at their -- you know, at their fi fingertips. and it's certainly something moving forward that the u.s. olympic and paralympic committee and all around the world should be looking at and dealing with. this is a very big issue right now not only in the united states but, of course, around the world. >> it certainly is. christine brennen, thank you so much. and we are following new developments in surfside, florida. the search of the
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we have some incredible video to share with you, tonight, of what is being called an eye of fire. and you can see why.
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just look at this scene from the gulf of mexico, off the yucatan peninsula. authorities say an underwater gas leak near an oil platform sparked a fire that burned for more than five hours. wow. your next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts right now. i'm pamela brown in washington. and you are in the "cnn newsroom" on this holiday weekend. great to have you along. concerns, tonight, over the spread of the highly-transmissible delta variant, as the u.s. sees a spike in new-covid cases. plus, what started as a traffic stop escalated into a nine-hour standoff between police and heavily-armed men in tactical gear. also, tonight. lifesaving and life-changing. i'm going to speak to one of the winners of kentucky's big vaccine lottery. and we have breaking news, this hour, out of surfside, florida, where officials say


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