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turns out there is a good reason some republicans have no appetite for investigating the january insurrection. they are too busy hobnobbing with one of the participants. i'm john berman, in for anderson. and this uncovered by cnn's k file is anthony, seen with lauren boebert, republican members took to the border on tuesday and wednesday, when claegs were voting on a select committee to investigate january 6th. a close ally of congresswoman marjorie taylor greene was there for the attack on the capitol. but unlike a number of republican lawmakers, who have tried to blame it on antifa, black lives matter, fbi
agitators, or anyone but trump supporters. this guy makes no bones about who was responsible. >> we were all there. it was not antifa and it was not blm. it was trump supporters that did that yesterday. i'm the first to admit it. being one, myself. >> so that was anthony, january 7th, a day after the insurrection. and here is part of his live stream on the border, three nights ago during which he interviewed and chatted with house members lauren boebert. you see her there. madison cawthorne, chris jacobs, john rose, ronny jackson, and mary miller. the members were there the night before the former president's visit, which they took part in. and as it turns out, so did this guy, agueiro. here he is posting on instagram. his comment reads, can y'all spot me? lol. lol. a k-file search of court records found the guy has a history of
criminal violence, including felony-vehicular assault for which he receive add two-year prison sentence. that's who these lawmakers are rubbing elbows and chatting with on tuesday. and yes, given the moment, that's more than a bit surreal. but it's, also, not surprising. even though, let's be blunt here, it damn well ought to be, all things considered. think about it. for the first independence day holiday since the civil war, this country, 245 years old on sunday, is living in the shadow of an internal attack on democracy. it could be on the verge of another, according to a warning this week, from the department of homeland security. yet, one of the two political parties is doing all it can to get us, all, to look the other way. some, as you saw, are even paling around with the guy at the insurrection. and this is all being tolerated by the man in charge. house republican leader kevin mccarthy, who seems to have forgotten scenes like this from another newly released batch of
video. >> leave the capitol. back up. no, stop. stop. stop. >> as that was happening, you will recall, mccarthy was barricaded inside his office on the phone begging the former president to call off the mob that was breaking his windows and trying to get in. well, kevin, the former president is reported to have replied, i guess, these people are more upset about the election than you are. yes, that kevin mccarthy. this one, too. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have, immediately, denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action by president trump. >> that brief outburst of honesty did not last long. mccarthy, soon, folded like a card table flying down to mar-a-lago, and kissing the former president's ring or its latin equivalent. he showed his fealty by opposing a bipartisan commission to investigate the attack. then, he attempted to block a
select committee. when that failed, he followed up by threatening the career of any republican volunteering for it. now, he is dragging his feet on naming the members he is entitled to choose, in consultation with house speaker pelosi. but even as he does, evenach da seems to bring a new reminder of just what he is trying hard to sweep under the rug. today, we learned of yet another arrest. another so-called oath keeper. he is the one labeled by name or with a red arrow wearing paramilitary gear, sometimes marching in a military-stack formation, according to charging documents. he was part of the group that was stockpiling guns the a nearby hotel. which they refer to as the qrf, or quick reaction force hotel. an armed-second wave, to what was already the worst attack on democracy since the civil war. it is hard to even imagine, yet so easy, it seems, for some, to try to make us forget. perspective, now, from cnn senior political analyst, david gergen. also, former-republican congressman, denver riggleman.
so, david, these house republicans, over the course of a couple days. they were paling around with this guy who was at the insurrection. they were skipping the january-6th vote. and they were all there to show their undying support for the former president and his stunt. what do you call that? >> who were you directing at, john? >> david. >> okay. i -- i think what we are seeing is the story just underscores how vital it is that we have a commission to investigate what happened on january 6th and clear the air on it. for years, as long as i can remember, when big, historic events have occurred and as national commissions have been created and they have been very, very important. i go all the way back when john f. kennedy was assassinated. seven days later, there was a national commission by the chief justice of the united states supreme court.
and what it established, once and for all, was president kennedy was assassinated by lee harvey oswald. oswald worked alone. and jack ruby also shot oswald as a loner. before that, there had been all sorts of conspiracy theories like what we are seeing now about january 6th. commissions clear the air. they allow everybody to sort of put -- you know, to close the chapter and move on to the next event. but right now, in the midst of this calamity, that we are still going through. it's -- it's really unbelievable that the republican party which has been -- led the way on having a commission after 9/11. led the way on having a commission on voting rights. gop. gerald ford was on the warren commission. the gop now draws the line saying, no, we don't have anything to do with this. only raises the question what
are they hiding? >> yeah. congressman, i mean, it seems to me, this is no longer a bug. it is the feature of a big part of the republican party. what do you think? >> well, i don't -- i don't know why anybody who is an elected official would be swapping air molecules with a conspiracy grunt on the border. i mean, it just -- it doesn't make any sense to me, as somebody who's, you know, taken the oath to defend this constitution. not only in the military but also as a congressman. it's appalling but you are seeing it everywhere, right, john? you have a q influencer, that got media credentials for trump's rally in florida. so, i think, right now, it's baked in. i think you are right, john. when you said this is more of a feature. right? the fact is that this has become this sort of apocalyptic good-against-evil conspiracy that's going on. but to actually pow around with somebody with a criminal record, somebody who was there, somebody who bragged about being there and take selfies with these, you know, congressional representatives. i think it goes to show right now, that we need -- we need a
fix and we need to find out how this disinformation spreads. we need a committee or a commission. we need this to happen, and i would hope that i can be involved somehow, as you know, john, with my background in intel. but right now, just seems like they want -- they want to swap spit with these guys and i think that's something that is really going to hurt the gop, in the long-term. >> isn't it possible that they are there with this guy because they want to be there with this guy? if not literally, then at least figuratively? that they want to be seen as at least being open to this kind of thing? i mean, why else would you have a guy like andrew clyde and others calling in a normal-tourist visit? >> exactly. maybe, they thought it was just a tourist there to take selfies with them, right, john? by the way, some of them are saying we don't know who it was and things like that. but where is security? i mean, is this guy vetted in there? remember, i was a congressman, it's hard to bs me. so how did this guy get in there? was he invited by somebody down there to come along on this trip as an interpreter or whatnot? you know, that's what should scare people is that we have idiots, like this, that are palling around with
congressional representatives that, either, they are being deliberately obtuse, right? or they are not smart enough to figure it out. and both of those, right, are -- are probably disqualifying to be in con dwgress. but right now, it is -- looking at polling and stuff like that, john, i think it is actually getting more powerful out there, this type of belief system. >> so, david, you know, we see new videos released almost every day. or at least every week of what happened in the insurrection and it's horrifying. i mean, it's just horrifying what happened that day. it was horrifying on that day. in a way, we shouldn't need more videos to make us -- make reasonable people more horrified. but i'm wondering, if you think they make any difference, anymore? >> it doesn't make much difference as it used to, john. but i do think over the next two or three years, we are going to have two big elections when the american people are going to be asked to judge. you know, what happened on january 6th. the off-year elections and then the presidential elections in 2024. these will be central. but it's really important. that we be able to have a
discourse that's about truth and about facts. as opposed to conspiracies. and that's why a commission. give credit to liz cheney being willing to -- when she said, yes, i'll do this. and really aggravated, as you can imagine, kevin mccarthy, to no end, he is going to apparently strip her of other responsibilities in congress. and -- and is threatening others who may sign up. what we need is a commission. kevin mccarthy ought to get onboard and support it. >> well, look, the bipartisan commission isn't happening. the independent-bipartisan commission is senator happening, at this point. we have this select committee, congressman. what do -- you have got experience working with these people. they were your colleagues just a few months ago. what is it that you think, or how is it that you think, kevin mccarthy, ultimately, will approach this? is this something he will try, somehow, to muck up? >> yeah. he's got to stop it. i mean, if they're -- if they're looking at the -- if they are looking at the polls, if they are looking at the fundraising for each of the individual members in these districts, he is going to have to push it to the side. he is going to have to make fun
of it. he is going to have to make it partisan. he is going to have to push it to as far to the left saying this is ridiculous, it's problematic, it's provocative. you know, you got to use these hyperbolic words to get people riled up and sort of dismiss it. i think that is a huge mistake. this is an american problem. it's not a republican or democratic problem. it is time for us, for americans, to do something to find out, in analysis, what happened on january 6th? how it happened? and we need to go back a year or two. we need to actually get everybody in the same room. domestic individuals. transnational threats. we need -- we need to engage, you know, the -- some of the stuff that we have going on like with the global engagement center. looking how transnational domestic threats actually fuse. and we need to look at the gaps in the priorities that we need to actually look at. that law enforcement didn't have time to do to see why this happened. this is absolutely friggin' necessary and i still can't get my arms around the fact that we have individuals pushing back on that, after what happened to individuals. after the americans that were affected. after individuals like michael fanone getting almost beat to death. enough of this crap. and i think, at this point, you
know, i'm -- i'm frustrated based on my background in intel, because i know we can figure this out. >> again, you know, i don't think the crap is a bug. i think, at this point, we have to assume it's a feature. and, you know, fasten your seatbelts. because -- because watch how this -- how they try to approach this committee will be fascinating. david gergen, appreciate you being with us. congressman riggleman, thanks to you. have a wonderful holiday weekend, both of you. next, new insight into how the former president is taking yesterday's indictment of his company and his finance chief. and later, a string of breaking news in the surfside tragedy including word that residents of another building in the area have been told it's no longer safe to live in. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too.
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taking the news? cnn political analyst and "new york times" washington correspondent, maggie haberman joins us now. also, cnn legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor, elie honig. trump trying to send off signals, oh, this is no big deal. the indictments. oh, it's just a partisan-witch hunt. oh, nothing to see here. what's really going on, behind the scenes? what is the real feeling among the president and his close advisers? >> look, john, you are going to continue to see the former president describe this as a witch hunt. and describe this as a partisan investigation. part of that is going to be because of cy vance. part of that is going to be because of the attorney general, letitia james, in new york who is also working on this case with vance. but, in reality, donald trump is not somebody who has sought to be indicted. he is not somebody who thought this was a good thing. there was some -- some spin from one of his advisers, earlier this week, about how -- or right before the indictment about how he was quote/unquote thrilled. he's not thrilled. you know, i don't think he is
throwing staplers but he's not happy. it's not something that he is talking about constantly, as, you know, fury. but this is not where they want to be. this is a totally new world for him, john, and i think what you have seen with the former president and his advisers and members of his family and his allies is they have conflated legal problems, with public-relations problems for so long that i think some of them are losing sight of the fact that this is actually an indictment. now, it's not an indictment of donald trump, personally. but it is an indictment of his cfo and of his company. and these are -- even if they want to dispute the case and whether it's fair and whether it would be brought against somebody else. the reality is that allen weisselberg, the cfo, is facing potential-jail time. and that can -- can change things. it may not. he has indicated he is not going to cooperate with prosecutors but we will see where this goes. >> the indictment, maggie, part of the president's regular tv viewing yesterday? >> the former president was definitely watching the news coverage. and -- and one of the things that i think people don't understand about how he watches television is it isn't just glued to the box.
he often has it on in the background. and then, looks up and looks at things. but the tv is often on and he was well aware of the coverage yesterday. >> so, elie, from a legal perspective, what happens now? what's the goal among the new york prosecutors? still to get weisselberg to flip? >> i think so, absolutely, john. look. there is one of two things that yesterday's indictment is. sce scenario one is this could be prosecutors shooting their shot. putting their best foot forward and hoping they get something out of this. if that's the case, it's really not much. i think what the scenario is, having been a prosecutor for a long time, is they are trying to strategically target, leverage, and pressure allen weisselberg to flip. whenever you are trying to break into a closed society, a closed organization like the trump organization, this is what p prosecutors do. you look at the org chart. you say who might be vulnerable? who actually might flip? and who can deliver the goods? and if you look at that for the trump org, everyone in that
inner circle except for allen weisselberg has the last name trump. they are not going to flip so i think the prosecutors are putting an awful lot of eggs in the basket of flipping weisselberg. but as maggie said, the status quo, at the moment, is he's not interested. now, i ever seen people i never expected to flip have a change of heart when they see that indictment and feel those handcuffs. so that, to me, is the biggest thing to watch in this case moving forward. >> elie, i learned today that you literally taught a class on flipping witnesses when you were in the prosecutors' office. so, what is going on behind the scenes? i mean, what are they saying to weisselberg and his team? how quickly does this anyone happen? >> well, i think they said something loud and clear with the indictment yesterday. when i looked at that indictment, i will tell you, the evidence against allen weisselberg was significantly stronger than i suspected. john, you coined the phrase the smoking spreadsheet which i think is a very clear piece of evidence. another piece of evidence that jumped off the page, to me, is they have evidence that allen weisselberg tampered with a record. they allege in the indictment that weisselberg told another
unnamed person at the trump org, take my name off that document. there was a notation that said, per allen weisselberg. weisselberg said, get my name off there. that is really incriminating evidence. so, if allen weisselberg's sitting there with his attorneys today, i think his attorneys have to tell him look, they have a strong case against you. you are about to turn 74 years old, allen. and if you get convicted here, you could go away for several years. so, you need to let that sit for a bit as a prosecutor but that indictment sent a message yesterday. >> maggie, i think people forget sometimes trump organization is a family business. relatively small, in some ways, family business. a family business now under indictment. you have a byline on the story which i think is really interesting in "the times," which talks about how this indictment could affect the family business, almost immediately. what will the impact be? >> so, john, the biggest question, right now, is what this means in terms of the trump organization's relationship with its lenders. in -- in various areas. whether that is lenders on specific properties. whether that is lender --
lenders in the -- you know, that we are not aware of, frankly. but oftentimes, there are covenants that are agreed to between lenders and a company or organization as to a specific project or as to an amount of capital being given to the company. some of those covenants suggest there could be -- and i am not saying that's the case here i am just saying this is what happens. there can be situations created where the lenders, banks for instance, would have the ability to walk away. now, donald trump has had a very charmed life in terms of this. he has generally, even when people thought banks would walk away from him, even when banks, themselves, suffered. he still has always managed to find a way so we will see. but that would be the biggest way in which you could see some impact. >> elie honig, let's role play here. el y if you are weisselberg's lawyer, what are you telling him today? >> the first thing i am telling
him is they have got a good case against you. look. any person who's been charged with an indictment has three options. number one, you can cooperate. if you do that, given the nature of the charges here, you have a very good chance to get probation. to not go to jail. option two is you can just plead guilty without cooperating. without hymn helping them out. if you do that, mr. weisselberg, you have a chance to get, maybe, a year or two. if you look at the new york guidelines, two or three years. but maybe, i, your defense lawyer, can argue to the judge for probation. we'd have to -- we'd be rolling the dice. option three is you can go to trial. i think anyone who advises a client has to tell them that most defendants, varies a bit by jurisdiction, get convicted at trial. and if you get convicted at trial, you very likely will get sentenced to several years in prison. so, those are the three options that allen weisselberg's sitting with. and one other thing that's important. building off what maggie just said. the money matters a lot. the two scenarios where i have seen people cooperate the most are, one, of course, to avoid or minimize jail time. but, two, when that money runs out. when the money to fight the cases, when the money to pay the
lawyers, when the money to maintain the rich lifestyles runs out. that's when people flip, as well. so that is a factor that's playing into all this. >> maggie, very quickly because we got to run here. what is the former president more focused on, at this point? politics? or business? >> i don't know how separate them, john. i mean, i think that -- the -- the politics gives him some sense of a shield to say that this is a political-witch hunt. i mean, i think he would say it, anyway. and the politics allow him to keep raising money. the second he says he is not running for president again, he is not able to raise money, anymore. so i think they are -- they are intertwined and frankly, john, that has often been a problem for him is they are always intertwined, the politics and the business. that's not the issue with this case. to be very, very clear. but that has been a question that has dogged him since he first ran for office. >> i knew you were going to go for option c there. i just knew it. maggie haberman, elie honig, our thanks to both of you. happy birthday, america, as we like to say. >> thanks, john. thanks, maggie. next fears about the safety
breaking news involving the condo collapse in surfside, florida, that we learned today has now officially claimed at least 22 lives. concerns about the stability of the remaining portion of the building. we will have more on that, in just a moment. but first, another condominium just a short drive away now the focus of safety concerns with authorities taking extraordinary measures there tonight. rosa flores joins us from north miami beach, florida, with the very latest. rosa, tell me about this bi building and exactly what the concern is and how they are responding. >> you know, it -- it is
shocking to the people that i have been talking to who live in this building. they say that they were given two-to-three hours, that a police officer was standing outside their door. telling them that they had to grab what they could and go. that they needed to exit the building. john, here is the backstory. according to officials, after surfside, the story we have been covering for more than a week now. officials asked all of the buildings to submit their paperwork to make sure these buildings were safe. well, the building you see behind me submitted this report just today. it's dated january 1st. today is july 2nd. this report, on the very first page, john, says it is structurally not safe. it is electrically, not safe. that's exactly why city officials say that they immediately took action given what happened in surfside. and asked all of these residents to get out. from talking to some of these
residents, they're emotional. and, of course, they're counting their blessings because they know what happened in surfside. but they are, also, angry because this is -- from -- from at least six months ago. and so, their concern is why were they not told about this earlier? um, from what i hear from city officials, they are asking the red cross to help out. because, of course, now, all of these people are homeless. now, this building was built in 1972. it has more than 150 units. they don't have an exact manifest, as of now. they are trying to figure that out. and they are trying to help all of these people, who are, now, homeless. john. they are trying to figure out, exactly, where to go. and, john, you and i were talking about the 40-year certification of the building that collapsed in surfside. well, the certification for this building was never turned in. that is one of the big concerns. and, of course, this is, all, after the surfside collapse.
that's the reason why these documents are, now, being turned in. and city officials are taking action. >> they are taking it seriously, now. rosa, very quickly. what did the miami-dade mayor announce today in terms of the remaining structure from the champlain tower south? >> well, the mayor says that she signed a demolition order. and this is the first step to demolish that remaining portion of that building. of course, we all know, and she emphasized, it is a public-health issue. it is a public-safety issue. and they know that that -- that portion of the building has to be demolished. now, she says it's not going to happen before the hurricane that is -- that has formed in the gulf. she says it probably will take a few weeks. it's the structural engineers, who will make the decisions. who will figure out, exactly, how and when this will happen, john. but you and i know this tis a very emotional moment for the families because we know that there are, still, people under
that rubble. >> rosa flores, thank you so much for this reporting. lot going on there, to say the least. and we have two stories we want to tell you about. that speak to the emotional toll this has taken on everyone involved from those who were in the building. as well as those involved in the search-and-rescue effort. randi kaye joins us, now, from surfside. and, randi, you are learning more about one of the victims. what can you tell us? >> well, john, another child has been pulled from the rubble. this time, a 7-year-old girl. she was recovered by miami fire search and rescue. and it turns out, that she is the daughter of a firefighter who works with miami fire search and rescue. he was actually working on the pile, at the time. he did not find his daughter. but a search team from task force two did and they called him over and told him that tragic news. so you can just imagine, john, how difficult it is for this family. this little girl has not been identified, publicly. nor, has her father. the family is asking for privacy, at this time.
but certainly, a very, very difficult situation for them, like it is for so many families here in the surfside area. also, tonight, john. we are learning more about those who ran for safety, as that building came crumbling down around them. and we are hearing stories of neighbors jumping into action to save neighbors. we met two of them, today. >> i hear a boom and my bed shake. and i see my -- my apartment is shaking. >> reporter: when champlain tower south shook in the middle of the night, esther was in bed on the fifth floor. the 88-year-old grandmother, quickly, made her way from unit 509 to the stairwell. soon, alfredo lopez spotted her. he and his family had escaped apartment 605. >> i remember esther told me she had -- her knee was bothering her and that she wanted to stop. you know, i told her, you know, stopping is not an option. you know? >> there was no way you were going to let her stay. >> no, i just -- like, it just
didn't even occur to me, you know, i can't. she is a human being. >> reporter: but esther couldn't walk on her own so alfredo picked her up, tossed her over his shoulder and carried her down. >> i don't know how many flights of stairs. it couldn't have been that many because i'm really not that strong. >> reporter: esther and alfredo hadn't seen each other since that terrible night when he saved her life. until we brought them together. >> how are you? [ speaking foreign language ] >> i'm so happy. >> i am so happy, too. i am so happy to see you and, you know, we made it out. you know? so that's what's important, right? >> yes. yes. that's important. >> good. >> i am so happy, you know. up there, somebody's watching. >> absolutely. it wasn't -- you know, simply, esther, it just wasn't our time. you know? >> together, they recounted their chance meeting in the stairwell and their narrow escape.
>> you don't talk. you don't say anything. let's go. >> they made it to the garage, but they still weren't out of danger. the garage ceiling had collapsed and water was ankle deep. >> there was one car that was pancaked on top of another car that was pancaked on top of a huge slab of concrete. >> reporter: a mountain of debris proved too much for esther. so, alfredo had to think fast. his son helped, too. >> somebody pushed me. >> yeah. you know, we gave her, like, the old, you know, one two, like, you know, just pushing her. >> push her over the -- >> well, we pushed her up. and we got out of the -- the garage, which was very important. >> reporter: after they cleared the garage, alfredo put esther over his shoulder, once again. and carried her to safety on the beach. >> what do you think about somebody who would do that? >> somebody else. when they see something bad, you know, you need to help each other in bad times, too.
it's no other choice. remember, everybody has bad time. what i can tell you? >> it's just so beautiful that they helped you. >> you know, you help everybody. whoever knock on my door and need help, i give it to them. and thank god, it gave me the prize of my life. because i did so many good things. >> how lucky do you feel today? >> i know i'm lucky. very lucky to be here. with my family. thank god. thank god. >> reporter: that night, alfredo and esther lost everything they owned. but they escaped with their lives and a friendship that is sure to endure. >> you make me very happy. >> reporter: and this really was a team effort to get esther safely out of that building. another man did help. his name is albert aguero and
esther, of course, wants to thank him for helping as well. he actually pulled as alfredo pushed to get her out of that garage area. and esther believes that her parents and her husband were, also -- they, also, had a hand in this. that they gave these men the strength to save her. and i did talk to alfredo, and he was telling me today that he does have some survivor's guilt, john. he doesn't understand why he and esther and others survived and it seems as though so many others did not. he was very emotional, talking about when he first opened his apartment door to flee. and he looked at his neighbor's door, right next door to him, and it was just a big, black, gaping hole and there has been no sign of her, since. that's haunting him, to this day. and still, very hard for him to deal with, john. >> randi, that story was beautiful. just beautiful. in bad times, you have to help people. so important. thank you so much for that. >> absolutely. just ahead. the closing of bagram airbase and the ending of our nearly-two decade war in afghanistan.
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president biden grew visibly frustrated today with questions from reporters about the future of afghanistan. preparing to keep the focus on the economy and the fourth of july, even as a major chapter in the u.s. war there comes to a close. the last american troops have now left bagram airbase. a major symbol of the american military presence in afghanistan for nearly-two decades. anna coren has more on what the exit means for the mission that's ending, as well as the one now beginning for the afghans. >> reporter: the vast might of the u.s. military transformed this dusty air strip in a miniature city. and a nucleus of america's longest war. ultimately, that might could not transform afghanistan. friday morning, nearly-20 years after u.s. soldiers captureding a bagram airbase as a launchpad for the war on terror, the habit service men and women departed
afghanistan. a nation not left strong, prosperous, or secure, despite the sacrifice of more than 2,400 american lives. and over 100,000 afghan civilians, according to the united nations. >> many of those fallen soldiers, repatriated from these runways. now, in the position of afghan-government forces, as they continue their lonely fight with the taliban. they are the only ones, who will consider friday's u.s. departure a victory. >> the security situation is not -- not good, right now. it -- that's something that's recognized by the afghan-security forces and they are making the appropriate adjustments. as we move forward. >> reporter: taliban fighters have seized back swaths of the country americans fought and died to liberate. after once boasting a force of over 100,000 in afghanistan, there will remain as few as 600 u.s. troops here to provide security for american diplomats. >> we intend to maintain a
diplomatic presence in kabul. that is something that is important to us, given our enduring desire to have a continued partnership with the afghan government. and crucially, with the afghan people. >> war will continue, as joe biden waits out of the mire. a mire, that trapped his predecessors in a brutal and bloody stalemate. bush, obama, and trump, each, bouncing in and out of bagram pledging afghanistan will never be a haven for terrorists, as it was when al qaeda plotted the tragedy of 9/11. those terrorists long since rooted out and destroyed. now, no guarantee that violent extremists won't reenter the vacuum left by the united states. as the last-american soldiers out of afghanistan return to a nation that has long waited to welcome them home. >> anna coren joins us, now, live, from kabul. anna, so much concern for the afghan-support personnel who worked alongside the american
military there. what is the latest on how, if, and when the u.s. will help these people? >> well, obviously, john, the -- the safety and security of those afghan translators, interpreters, and -- and other workers. who -- who worked alongside u.s. troops and diplomats throughout this 20-year war is paramount. their lives are at risk due to the deteriorating-security situation. we've seen the -- the taliban launch this offensive across the country, particularly in the north. gaining momentum. and -- and gaining territory. and it's -- it's because of that, and also the -- the -- the -- the fact that the u.s. troop have -- have -- have brought their withdrawal forward by two months. it has exacerbated that threat. we know that there are 18,000 afghans who have applied for this special-immigrant visa. and it's hoped, by the biden
administration, that they can fast track the process by putting these afghans into a third country. keeping them safe, whilst they can process these visas to the united states. the biden administration is in talks with countries here, in central asia, neighbors with afghanistan, uzbekistan, kazakhstan, and they are hoping that they can strike some sort of deal to get these afghans to safety, before moving them onto the united states. president biden, john, vowing that every afghan who risked his life -- his or her life -- for america will not be left behind. john. >> has to be done quickly. anna coren, in kabul, thank you so much for that. the olympic dreams of u.s. track star sha'carri richardson are now on hold after she tested positive for thc, the chemical in marijuana. what she is saying about it all and the questions some are asking tonight, is the punishment too strict? i will talk it over with former olympic sprinter/champion, gayle
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an olympic surprise. u.s. sprinter sha'carri richardson will not be allowed to race at the games. the 21-year-old tested positive for thc, the chemical in marijuana, invalidating her win at the u.s. trials last month. she had been considered a favorite in tokyo. richardson said she used marijuana in oregon, where it's legal, after learned her biological mother died. she was trying to hide her pain after the news was broken by a reporter. >> i apologize for the fact that i didn't know how to control my emotions or deal with my emotions during that time. but sitting here, i just say, don't judge me because i am human. i'm you. i just happen to run a little
faster. >> many hope with richardson and tokyo the u.s. might win the first olympic gold medal since gail deavers in 1996. joining us is gail deavers. an honor to speak with you. listen, when you first heard the news that sha'carri richardson will not be able to run the race in tokyo, i wonder what went through your mind. >> i kind of just said wow. then when i found out what it was, that it was marijuana, it's an unfortunate situation because she was on a great path to bring home the gold. and, you know, it's one of those things that happen. i love the fact that she has always said that she wanted to be transparent. so, she took responsibility and she's taking the ban. >> she owned this. i mean, she absolutely did take responsibility, says she accepts the punishmentnt. no one disputes that there is a rule and that she broke the rule. the question, gail, is should there be a rule at this point for marijuana when marijuana is legal in oregon, you know, where she used it.
alcohol is not illegal. is it a fair rule to begin with? >> well, you know what? i always tell people that we are -- you know, we choose to run track and field. that's our sport. and in our sport, there's a governing body that governs our sports and there's rules and regulations that we may not agree with. but until we change them, we have to abide by them. and you heard sha'carri say that, you know, she's not telling someone to do it or not to do it. this was a choice she made to cope with the things that she had to cope with. and that's why she's accepting that ban. it's 30 days. she'll be back. if you watch her, she's unapologetically sha'carri. and what she does is she doesn't run with question marks. when she's done with the race, she has put it all on the line, and that's what people were loving about her and will continue to do that in 30 days. >> there is a chance she'll be able to run the four by 100 relay. we don't know yet. but, you know, what must her feelings be? how would you feel if someone
told you a month before the games that you couldn't compete in your best race? >> well, let's think about the challenges that we've all had to face with this pandemic and not knowing as an athlete. these athletes not knowing if the games were going to go off or not go off. what were they doing? what gets you there keeps you there. what they were doing was the same thing. they were still training. they may have had to find a different venue. it may be in a garage. it may be in a park. knowing sha'carri as far as what we've seen of her, she is that determined person that she is going to be ready. what distinguishes people is access and opportunity. whatever they say to her, yes, you can go run here or you have to wait until after the games, i believe she's going to be ready to get out there. one of the things that watching i become a fan of my sport and watching her, one of the things i loved about her was that she's patient, whether she gets out the blocks or not she's patient in her run. and she's one of the most technically sound athletes we've seen in a very long time.
and i think these are the things that, you know, when you're faced with a challenge, you have to find that inner strength. and i like that she says she's going to take this time to deal with herself to deal. and that brings about that mental health thing that we're all dealing with and trying to figure out. how do we rally around these athletes, you know, with stardom and fame comes a big responsibility in addition to your personal things that you have to deal with, which we're seeing this.s. we got a taste of that after she won and told us about the death of her mother and how she coped with it. >> i have to say i'm sure she would be thrilled to have you rallying behind her right now. an honor to speak with you. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. up next in the heart ache of surfside, a place to remember.
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