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the withdrawal is moving at light speed. and so the taliban. plus today a strong jobs report. 850,000 new hires. a big boom in hospitality. the biden economy making strides in repairing the pandemic jobs damage. and brand new cnn reporting raises huge questions about the company some republicans keep. photos and videos capture a january 6th capital rioter tagging along with republican house lawmakers on a trip to the border. and we begin right there with that new and important reporting from cnn's team that just speaks volumes about the direction of today's republican party. a conservative youtube personality who took part in the riot at the capitol traveled with a group of house republicans to the u.s./mexico border. if that isn't shocking enough, the republican members traveling to the border were skipping a house vote in washington that very day on creating a select congressional committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection.
our cnn editor of the k-file joins us now with this critical reporting. andrew, walk us through what you've learned. >> it's good to be with you. basically as you mentioned, this youtuber who as we previously reported is a close friend of marjorie taylor greene, appeared, took part in the capitol riot, went into the building, chanted heave hoe as rioters went it. justified it actually criticized those who attacked them over breaking in. he accompanied all the members of congress to the border. there was a group of republicans from the republican study committee, and they traveled to the border ahead of president trump's visit. how exactly he joined the group is unclear. but the severity -- it's
interesting, because as you can see in the photos and videos that we just posted on cnn.com, he at times served as a translator for them when walking to migrants crossing the border. he interviewed many and even drove one of them in his truck. >> and you say we're not quite sure how he got there. what do the members say about this? >> so we spoke to the office of republican jim banks, the chair of the study committee who organized the trip. he said they were unaware of this individual participating in the capital riot or who he was, and they said he didn't travel with them actually to the border, so he wasn't part of the group that went from the press briefing where they met before and went to the border. so they said they didn't know who he was. but as you can see, he was very
intimately involved in this trip. and you know, just -- was this close to this group of a half dozen lawmakers who went. >> right. they say they were unaware of who he was and how he got there, but he was translating for them, driving at least one of them in the mix of them in a secure situation near the border. andrew, grateful for this reporting. with me in studio to share the reporting and their insights, abbie phillip. jonathan martin of the new york times. i just want to let you all -- i may have to interrupt you any second. there's an event at the white house with the president of the united states greeting the los angeles dodgers. we're ready for that. let's go to the east room. >> good afternoon, everyone. it's a great beginning of the fourth of july weekend. madame vice president, mr. leader, how are you? good to see you. we're here today to congratulate a group of folks who did pretty
well. welcome them to the white house. i have a feeling, kamala, i think we may be doing this again by the end of the year. i don't know. i'm not sure i'll be able to handle garcetti if they win twice. it's going to be hard. the 2020 world champions, the los angeles dodgers are here. we're honored and thrilled they're here, and that goes for the vice president, too. she's from california, you probably heard. i'm not going to mention which end of the state she's from right now. and who she roots for, but is doug here? i know he was. i thought he made -- i know, i tell you what. well, you know, we have -- when you talk about mixed families, i have a mixed family and she has a mixed family based on
baseball. and sports. i'm not going to mention that team in northern california in the san francisco area. and i'm not going to mention that team in philadelphia. my wife is a philly girl from her belt buckle to her shoe soles, and if i root for anybody but the phillies, i'll be sleeping in lincoln bedroom alone. but, you know, sometimes -- well, no, never. anyway, but the dodgers are a lot more than a baseball club. they really are. they're a pillar of american culture and american progress. that's for real. a team that brought us the voice of vince sculley and sandy come fox and fernando venezuela. i was talking with staff, and they said i want to teach you how to pronounce that name.
i said i watched him pitch, but i'm only 37. but it's -- i wish -- anyway, above all else, the heart of jackie robinson. now, you're building a new dynasty for a new generation. and i've often said that it's never a good idea to bet against the american people. tell that to every world leader i encounter. well, now we know it's never a good idea to bet against mookie bets, and mookie is a hell of a ballplayer, and a guy who used to love mookie is my chief strategist, mike donnelan, but he doesn't want to talk to mookie anybody because he left boston. there's nothing like dividing staffs based on baseball. it's not a good idea to bet against clayton either or cody. you know, this is -- this is a world championship organization, because they've got a team full of guys who stepped up when they
were called upon. just stepped up. and it takes a team to finish with the best record in baseball to knock out the brewer withes, the padres and the rays and win it all. and the dodgers didn't just win. you finished with the highest winning percentage of any team since 1954. >> think about that. the winningest ball club since 1954. it takes a team to persevere through one of the most challenging seasons, one of the most challenging years in our nation's history. in the pandemic when it struck, it up ended just about everything. every part of american life. families were grieving for loved ones lost. the economy collapsed. and the pain and fear in the nation were immeasurable. when the season began, it was easy to feel like they had bigger things to worry about than just sports. of course, we did. we still do, but i think what we
discovered is that we need sports more than we ever realized. we see it now. as fans return to ballparks and arenas across the country, cheering on their favorite players and teams, sharing that sense of community and pride. it's a uniting feature as i said to you guys in the other room. and we go through a crisis very often, sports brings us together to heal, to help us feel like things are going to be okay, they're going to get better. for a few hours each day, feeling and sensing something familiar, something normal, something that's fun in the middle of the chaos and believing we're going to get back to all we're missing and get back to it someday soon, so today we celebrate your incredible achievement. we celebrate the great work you do on and off the field in the community and on childhood lit literacy, preventing bullying and so much more.
for the way this team is built. and from the way it's built. i suspect we have -- we have many of you as i said, maybe back visiting soon. above all, as we beat this pandemic and celebrate fans coming back to stadiums, we celebrate something else. a national achievement. we came together as fellow americans, frontline workers, friends, families, neighbors. looking out for one another. and dodgers stadium is the heart of that effort. i want to thank your ownership for that. administering more than 1 million covid tests at the stadium and getting nearly a half million vaccine doses in people's arms. dodgers also helped us come together by being the first team in baseball to make their stadium available to voting as distance outdoor vote centers during the last election. so not only does dodgers stadium host world champions. it helps save lives and
strengthen our democracy as well. together as a nation, we proven that it's truly a never good bet to bet against america. america is back and the dodgers are back. congratulations to all of you and the best of luck the rest of the season. may god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you. now, let's bring up clayton crenshaw to say a few words and maybe throw a few curveballs. okay? come on up, man. >> hi, everybody. first time to speak at the white house. sorry if i'm a little nervous. mr. president, thank you for having us. it's an honor to be here and celebrate at the white house. last season was a special one
for us. but it was also a challenging one for our country and our hope was that we were able to provide just a little bit of joy and comfort and relief to our fans that were going through tough times. this season it's been incredible to have fans back in the ballpark. we miss the energy and their passion for the game. and it means so much to us that people are coming back to the ballpark and things around the country are going back to normal. hopefully like you said, we can come visit again next year. so with that, we brought something for you and the vice president and now our team owner mark walter is going to bring it down for you. i'm going to show you my courage. thank you very much. what a great honor.
thank you. >> i think doc is going to come up now and present to the madame vice president. [ applause ] >> the jersey? >> here it is. >> thanks, guys. >> that blue looks very good on you. >> there you go. >> okay. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. >> thank you, man. >> appreciate it. >> all right. we're going to take this down in a minute, but hang on a second.
folks, you know, i think even the americans who aren't baseball fans, they -- there's an awful lot of baseball met or thes -- metaphors and encryption to every part of our language and our culture, and it has been one of the great equalizers. come on up here, madame vice president. the vice president and i have spent a lot of time working on making sure we do, dealing with the equity in the united states. making sure that we change the dynamic in a fundamental way, that we are the only nation in the world based -- organized based on an idea. every other nation is based on a notion of culture or geography or religion. we're the only one based on an idea. not a joke. and the idea is we hold these
truths to be self-evidence. that all men and women are created equal. endowed by their creator. that's who we are. and we decided this is a time to push that forward. look what baseball has done. look what baseball has done. look at -- the makeup of this ball club. the makeup of the ball clubs all across the league. i mean it. it's jgigantic. it matters. and you send a message that is profound. now, i'm going to mention one ballplayer that the vice president heard me mention before, that i -- even i never -- even i'm not old enough to have watched him play, but satchel page. and satchel page as any pitcher can tell you, the older you get, the harder it is to keep the arm going. he didn't get to the majors until he was 45 years old.
on his 47th birthday, he pitched a win against chicago. and all the press went into his room, and in the locker room and said sach, it's amazing. 47 years old. and you pitched a win. how do you feel about being 47? he said boys, that's not how i look at age. this is what he said. it's not how i look at age. it's how you look it. i look at it this way. he said how old you be or how old you were, i am 51 years old. you guys are 19. anyway, i think issue i know you -- i know you don't underestimate anyone. you saw what happened the way you and all the leagues responded to the crisis we faced. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. and i -- i just want you to know that we have a congressional
baseball game every year, and the very beginning i used to be a center fielder. and my -- it's a long story, but my kids only remember two things that ever happened to me in my career. my boys. and they met kings and queens and have gone to other countries, but i played in the first -- the second congressional baseball game at the old stadium, the old washington stadium. i hit one off the right center field wall. bounced off the wall. i think it was 368 or i don't know what it is exactly now, but off the wall. and i'm rounding -- anyway, to make a long story short, my kids remember that. all the rest, and guess what. the only thing i remember, too. i thought what could have been. what could have been. anyway, and cedric richmond is a congressman, hell of an athlete, pitched in college, and he --
we're both hoping that somehow he would do it based on merit. i'm hoping that because i got elected president, i may do it on influence to be inducted into the congressional baseball hall of fame. you don't think i'm kidding, do you? anyway, thank you, and i just want you to know it really means a lot to us that you're here. it means a lot that the kind of hope you give the american people. don't underestimate it, guys. don't underestimate it. what are we doing now, boss? taking pictures? >> yes. >> the boys want -- >> you want me to do it again? >> president of the united states. joe biden along with the vice president, kamala harris in the east room of the white house celebrating paying tribute to the 2020 baseball world champions, the dodgers. at the top of the program we
were talking about republicans visiting the u.s./mexico border with a rioter, a conservative personality who participated in the january 6th riots at the capitol. abnormal behavior. what you saw in the white house, we were talking about it at the table was a return to some normalcy. some teams would not come during the trump presidency. they did not want to be associated with the former president. when the coronavirus pandemic set all sports off the table for a little bit. the president of the united states paying tribute to the dodgers not only for being the world champions but for coming back and playing during the covid pandemic and for making dodgers stadium available for covid vaccines, covid testing and voting in last year's election. a dose of normalcy. >> yeah. it was delightfully normal, i would say. and i mean, the president really took that event as kind of fun and light and fluffy to really emphasize kind of his broad message going into independence day. that we are still working to defeat this virus but look at -- thank you for playing during the pandemic. thank you for giving americans
hope. thank you for using your facilities to help us combat this pandemic as we head into this independence day. and, again, we kind of all missed these cheesy sports outings at the white house. and like you said, a lot of protest from various athletic teams during the trump administration over the policies, over the former president's statements and positions. so it is a nice dose of normalcy back at the white house. >> and joe biden telling stories and stopping himself, and stopping himself from telling stories and then starting it again. it's also a dose of normalcy. >> yes, it was a dose of -- >> and there's a red sox shoutout that i know stung you. >> no. i would just note for the historical record that mookie bets was at the white house first as a member of the red sox before he was there as a member of the world champion dodgers. best of luck to him. he's among the best. up next, the trump organization and the numbers guy are indicted. the former president falls back on a familiar refrain. witch hunt.
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books benefits. rent and utilities, carpeting, all illegally subsidized by the trump organization. it's a detailed document based on years of evidence the former president's defense, quite familiar. witch hunt, he says. let's get to new york. care ra, walk through what we know. >> good afternoon. the prosecutors yesterday announced this sweeping indictment, and what they said was a sweeping and audacious illegal payment scheme. a scheme they allege went on for 15 years. and involved the top of the trump organization. the chief financial officer allen weisselberg is someone that donald trump put in charge of the company when he became president. along with his two adult sons, donald trump junior and eric trump. none of the trump family members are named in this indictment. it really focuses on this payment scheme that the prosecutors allege allowed weisselberg the not pay taxes on $1.7 million. that includes what they say the trump organization also did not
pay taxes on this form of compensation they gave to weisselberg that included a free apartment, free mercedes for him and his wife. they said it covered flat screen tvs. his school tuition payments for his grandchildren. and a lot of other expenses that totalled up over the years to about 1 $.7 million. allen weisselberg entered a plea of not guilty in court yesterday. he'll fight the charges in court. the trump organization backing weisselberg saying he's a pawn in what prosecutors are doing as a political prosecution. they said this was a witch hunt. the trump organization pleaded not guilty and intends to fight this as well. >> we'll watch it all play out. grateful for the reporting. you'll stay on top of it. let's continue the conversation. i want to read one piece. this is what the prosecutors laid out on thursday. this is not a standard practice in the business community. nor was it the act of an isolated employee. instead, it was orchestrated by
the most senior executives who were financially benefitting themselves and the company by getting secret pay raises at the expense of the federal tax taxpayers. if it's a widespread scheme, why just one senior executive charged? >> well, the question of, of course, is will there be further indictments? i think everybody is wondering that. this was a very circumscribed set of charges. serious charges but localized. meaning based on all the reporting that we've seen thus far up until now, we didn't see the bomb shell bank fraud charges or insurance fraud charges or inflation of assets and deflation of assets. things of that nature that we've heard that the da as well as tish james has been investigating. the fact that the grand jury is seated, the special grand jury is seated for several more months, the fact that prosecutors alluded to having a protective order in place because of the ongoing nature of
this investigation leads some people to believe that perhaps there is more to -- more here to come. that's just the question that we're all waiting for. i think it could be a catch 22 as everybody is noting. based on whether or not weisselberg cooperates. we'll have to wait and see. >> right, and the part of that wait and see is if you're donald trump, the former president of the united states, the former ceo of the trump organization, and you're sitting down with your lawyers and you're discussing what is my legal jeopardy, should i be worried about what comes next? and the former ceo signed himself many of the illegal compensation checks. to put it bluntly, this was a sweeping illegal payment scheme. i come back to the question. if the former signed himself many of the checks why isn't the former ceo named? >> well, absolutely. tax fraud is sort of a unique charge here in that you have to -- a heightened level of willfulness. it's not enough to show he
signed the check. he had an understanding generalized understanding of the tax law and a willful disregard for them or a willful action to break them. but i would just note that even if the former president is not ultimately indicted here, the collateral consequences for the trump organization are quite significant here. it is a highly leveraged company. banks across america hold a lot of its debt, and likely they will see this indictment as some form of a breach of their lending kov nans, and there is a serious threat they'll call in the loans, and it's unclear whether or not the organization will survive. so whether or not there's more criminal exposure there, this is going to have an effect on the family. >> without a doubt. grateful for your thoughts. we'll continue to stay in touch as the case progresses through the courts and we'll see if there's a next chapter. up next for us, why the white house chief of staff found it necessary to make clear the
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moving to politics. the president's inner circle trying to -- we all know it has been a rocky feud for kamala with talk of tension with the west wing, staff turmoil and other grumblings. it's almost exclusively attributed to white house anonymous sources. the president's trust and confidence in her is obvious when you see them in the oval office together. the panel is back with us. some of this is washington drama, but some of it is real in the sense that if the white house chief of staff, other senior advisers to the go on record to say the vice president's fine, the president is fine with the vice president. it tells us what? >> t -- well, it tells us they felt the need given of all the weeks of the back to back news cycles around vice president harris, that they felt the need to clamp down on this. to say this isn't what's happening and they wanted to defend her. you saw this rallying around her
today in axios, the rebuke of the politico reporting that we had saying there is turmoil in that office. this also carries over from the campaign. she had similar issues during her campaign with staff. and so now you also saw the president today bring her up to the podium to show look, we are one united front, and that he supports her. >> you mentioned a history. let's show the recent headlines. politico not a healthy environment. fingers point at harris. new york post, she's number two. report claims the kamala harris feels. let's go back in time. you're right. this is november 2019. no discipline, no plan no strategy. kamala harris campaign is in meltdown. again, some of this is overblown in washington. some of this is rival egos. people who maybe wanted jobs in the west wing, still grumbling about it, but she is the ceo of her operation. and her operation continues to have problems. >> that's ultimately what this is about.
that the pattern here is that the one thing that has carried over between the senate campaign, her presidential campaign, and now her vice presidential office is the principle herself. it's been, i think, really challenging for her at this national level to manage a staff, frankly. these reports of dysfunction have been pretty consistent. and all kinds of different reasons and for some things small, some large. at the end of the day, if you are a principal, it's on you to create a no drama environment if that is what you want the reports to be about what's going on. she has not been able to do that. and that's just a fact. and people in her world are watching this and hoping that it gets under control. but these stories only make -- create a bad narrative and what you're seeing in the ak yoes story is concerned about the long tale. how will this sket her in 2024?
>> that's the key point. she's the vice president right now. but she has ambition. there's a question, does president biden win for election in 2024? and one said people are cowards to do this this way, meaning anonymous quotes. we're not making rainbows and bunnies all day. what i hear is people have hard jobs and i'm like welcome to the club. simone sanders pushing back there. and people -- news organizations i think sometimes are too generous with giving people anonymous sources to attack people. sometimes they're necessary. the question is to abbie's point, the long-term impact here. and that kamala harris is a presidential aspirations, and democrats question can she pull a team together and consistently lead her team? >> yes, and this is nothing new. i think the history of v.p.s and presidents, there's often tension. so i think this doesn't really sort of strike folks who cover
this stuff for a long time as new. i think what is different that s that this early in a presidency, typically you think about the reelection. that could happen for joe biden, but given his age, it's possible he's not going to be on the ballot in '24. that makes this for consequence shl in the medium to longer term. i was struck by the back to back reports first in politico and then axios. and the level of pushback involved and the second report said to me that clearly some folks in the v.p.'s office and perhaps kamala harris herself wanted a more robust defense. she always -- >> and perhaps the president himself. we can show the video. the president calling her up at the event of the dodgers. she's a giants fan, but the president made a point of calling her up and talking about the equity agenda. the president pays attention to the political press very much, and to jonathan's point, i covered the clinton white house, there was a lot of dysfunction with al gore.
joe biden had a fair amount especially early on of tension with barack obama. the dynamic is not new. it is because of harris and the potential that she could be the runner on 2024. you see people going on the record. the president's staff saying whoa, try to put this fire out. >> you've seen that, even before the stories emerged this week, you've seen this administration from the start knowing the dynamic that the president may not run again in 2024, to really ensure, to show in every single way possible that biden and harris are in lock step. they always say the biden/harris administration. they make a point of how she's not only the last in the room but the first in the room. they eat lunch regularly. she does the national security briefings with him on a daily basis. they tried to show that unified front. with some of the anonymous sources coming out and detailing a turmoil in her office, clearly it's something that the vice
president will have to confront with. just this -- before this narrative builds like abbie said in the coming days and this is part of that with the white house officials coming out and defending her. >> this is day 164. we're five months and there's transitions bumps and bruises. because this is a recurring theme, we'll check back in another 100 days. up next, delta variants are spreading and new covid cases are on the rise. welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you.
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the widen white house deploying new covid emergency teams to help fight the delta strain. >> these are dedicated teams working with communities at higher risk for or already experiencing outbreaks due to the spread of the delta variant and their low vaccination rate. >> let's walk through the latest numbers and show you why the white house is concerned about the delta variant. here are the case count. this is the winter peak. if you look down here, you say that's pretty good. we look down. it is way down. significant process. look at more recently, let's go back to the middle of may and come into june. it's below 20,000. close to 10,000. you saw thursday 12,707. look at the plateau. the plateau even a slight increase in recent days.
officials say the reason you can't shove it down more is because of the spread of the delta variant. this puts a into context. go back to march, no delta variant in the united states. rlly may, it was 1.3% of the cases. delta variant in the united states. now, approaching 30% of the new infections in the united states. attributed to the more nasty delta variant. you cas cdc data on the regions. 12% of the cases down here. delta variant. 31% out cases, 32 up here. out here in the plains and mountain west, 52%, 58%. let's bring in to discuss a doctor, the dean of the brown university school of public health. essentially these are s.w.a.t. teams. the white house beaming experts across the country. you see on the map here the regions being hard hit by the delta variant. why is this so important and what can these teams do? >> yeah. thanks for having me back. this is really important.
the reason is we're shifting to a new phase of the pandemic. we're not going to have nationwide outbreaks anymore. we have parts of the country that are highly vaccinated. and they're going to largely be spared some of these things. so we need local efforts, and what these teams do is augment what are really exhausted local public health entities and help them fight the outbreaks that are going to be happening across the country. >> sometimes the science gets complicated. sometimes you can look at things and connect the dots. if you look at the map of vaccinations, this is the county approaching. when you see the gray states, these are working on data. it's incomplete. that's why they're gray. i showed the map that showed the regions. you come to the plains, the dakotas in the middle. the counties are light. the percentage of vaccinated is down. you can overlay where there are fewer people vaccinated with where the delta variant is taking deeper root. that's the problem. right? >> yeah. i mean, that part is pretty straightforward.
it makes sense. where people are not vaccinated, people are susceptible. this is the most contagious variant we've seen throughout the pandemic. so it's not a surprise that those are the counties that are most vulnerable an that's where this is taking off. >> and what the cdc director said covid deaths are way down, but when we're seeing them, they're almost universally among the nonvaccinated. vaccines not only protect you against the virus but even against this variant. >> yeah. this is actually one of -- i have to say one of the most pleasantly surprising things is how well the vaccines are holding up against the variants. so far against all of them. right now what we're seeing across the country is sshl sshlly two pandemics. one among vaccinated people, where it's mild and largely going away. and another in largely unvaccinated communities still at high risk. >> we'll track the numbers. sadly we're in july now as we get closer to the fall, many
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before the pandemic in february of 2020. the signs of recovery are almost everywhere you look and the president says he deserves some credit. >> the last time the question grew at this rate was 1984. and ronald reagan was telling us this morning in america. well, it's getting close to afternoon here and the sun is coming out. we're on the right track. our plan is working. and we're not going to let up now. >> we have a chief economist with us. grateful for your time today. we look across the sectors. leisure and hospitality, retail up 76,000 jobs. manufacturing up 15,000 jobs. when you look at this report, is it all encouraging news or is there anything that gives you pause? >> it's pretty good news. i think the president has a lot to cheer about and a lot has to do with the american rescue plan. it's provided a lot of support to the economy. the reopening of the economy as
the pandemic winds down is really kicking the economy into high gear. a lot of good news. even the rise in unemployment we went from 5.8 to 5.9. that's largely because we saw a surge in the number of people who quit their jobs. and people don't do that unless they're pretty comfortable that they're going to find another one. they're right. they will. there's a record number of open job positions. as an economist, i can always find that dark cloud and sunshine, but this feels pretty good. >> and to the point you made, people leaving their jobs. it sounds counterintuitive. we showed the numbers of how that has increased. you see this high number of people leaving their jobs but you say it's because they see better opportunities or maybe they shifted to one place during the pandemic because they thought that was a safer place to work and now they're willing to look at something else. is that right? >> yeah. exactly right.
i mean, we know that there are 9.4 million open job positions across the country. that was the last data point we got in may. that's a record number. the previous record which was set right before the pandemic, that was 6.3 million. that gives you a sense of things. there's a lot of job opportunity and people are taking advantage of it. they're trading up in jobs. if they didn't like what they were doing before, now they have the opportunity to find a job that's better. that's exactly what they're doing. and so that's a good sign. that's a good thing for them, for their employers and the economy. >> a strong jobs report. good consumer confidence numbers this week. other data that is encouraging. when will the economy be back to where it was when the pandemic opened the trap door? >> well, if everything sticks to script, and it feels like there's a lot of powerful tail winds behind the economy. it feels pretty good. i think we'll get all those jobs we lost in the pandemic close to 7 million still down by this
time next year. if we're chatting next july 4th, we'll have gotten the jobs back. by the end of 2022, certainly no later than early 2023, i think we'll be back to full employment. that means an unemployment rate that's where we were prepandemic, 3.5%. a much larger share of the workers back in the labor force. it will feel like a rip roaring economy. we feel good about it. wage growth is strong. it will be back to the key issue will be for businesses will be finding workers. finding the right kind of worker for the right kind of job. that's the script that i think is dead ahead of us. and i feel pretty good about it. >> mark, grateful for your insights and encouraging jobs report. hopefully the numbers continue to improve. we'll keep in touch. enjoy your holiday weekend. this quick programming reminder about the weekend. this july 4th, america is open. for most of us it's time to celebrate.
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